Daily reminder that the Ainu people of Japan are related to the Pelasgian people of Greece.
The Japanese were formed when the Jomon (ancestors to contemporary Ainu) started merging with the newly-arriving Yayoi in Honshu. Likewise, the Greek identity was formed when the newly-arriving proto-Greek phyla bred and effectively blended with the Pelasgians. That means there is a common component in the early Greeks and the early Japanese.
This genetic link is distant, but extremely significant. It is perfectly in line with the similarities between the people of Greece and Japan: Sophisticated, honourable, culturally-rich, hard-working people.
>>78714362
"genetic link"
Source?
>>78714362
>Greeks
>Sophisticated
>Honourable
>Hardworking
>>78714504
It's a distant link through the YAP+ lineage. That is the D and E haplogroups.
Notice the unusual peaks in Japan and Greece. Split of the Ainu/Jomon ancestors and the Pelasgians is the point where E split into E3b and D.
Japanese YAP+ lineages come from the D haplogroup via the Ainu, which implies Jomon descendancy. Completely separate from the predominantly M9-G from the Taiwanese/Han/Koreans, which is the Yayoi contribution.
>>78714362
You mean like the Helots, OP?
PAY
>>78714984
This is the first time I see something about 'kazbegians' standing out
They are typical georgians and are kinda mixed as well
>>78714362
Guess those Anus better start paying some debnts.
>>78714362
http://www.freehungary.hu/index.php/archives-new/1514-hungary-economy-minister-from-the-red-dot-on-infants-buttcheek-through-playful-hungarian-tiger-to-the-pirates-of-the-money-world
>>78714362
>When will the Japanese pigu pay for their crimes?
>>78715414
Well, M89 is a very rich haplogroup. I imagine the caucasus is some mix of R, J and G.
>>78714362
WE WUZ AINU AND SHIEET
>>78714362
>similarities between the people of Greece and Japan
>Greece
>Sophisticated, honourable, culturally-rich, hard-working people.
Lmfao is this a joke?
>>78716688
Thing is, how much is known of the Pelasgians? The Ainu have survived as a homogeneous people well into the 20th century until they largely intermarried with the Yamato race.
>>78714984
Is a haplogroup basically the same as a race? For example, if you're a dominant M45, could you be considered racially different from a M89 dominant person?
>>78717836
Not much. It is hypothesised they were a mix of I, E3b, T and G2. They also probably came from Levant via Egypt, which makes them a majorly YAP+ lineage. Granted, Greece has always been a melting pot of cultures, unlike the more isolated Japan (and especially Hokkaido).
>>78718628
Not quite. An individual may be pretty much of any haplogroup without major contribution of one particular ethnicity. For example, a single Basque may have been in Finland thousands of years ago. The male lineage of this person will share the Y-haplogroup, and therefore a male person that descents from this individual may have a relatively rare haplogroup for Finland, and yet barely be 1/100th Basque.
However, you will find that group of people of a particular ethnicity will tend to have a certain combination of Y and mt-Haplogroups at specific frequencies.
>>78719905
Interesting. Do you have any books to recommend about this subject?
>>78722976
Not sure about books, but Eupedia has some interesting discussion threads and analyses. When political debate and controversy aren't too prevalent, they can get quite useful.
Here's a nice one that discusses the Y-haplogroup compositions of ancient civilizations: http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/25163-Y-DNA-haplogroups-of-ancient-civilizations
>>78714555
Hello Mr.Wang.
>>78714555
Ancient Greeks maybe...
