how do feminist react to this?
They probably won't react much, as feminists tend to be more educated, thus more capable of realizing that the Meyers-Briggs test is astrology for pseudo-intellectuals.
>tfw no K-selected INTJ white gf with big tits
>>78710959
>feminists
>educated
I'm sure you're a woman with a gender studies major.
jajajajajajaja
>>78711160
Nope, male one month out from an MBA. Go back and try again.
>>78711267
>as feminists tend to be more educated
>women
>rational
>>78711267
>male with an MBA
>joining the old boys club
>defending feminists
Eat shit, cunt.
>>78711752
You don't have to be particularly rational to recognize how woefully unscientific that personality test (and personality tests in general) is.
>>78711811
>feminists are completely irrational! I can't think for myself and bark like a good doggy at whatever /pol/ tells me to!
Yeah, nah.
>>78711063
this
I'm statistically fucked
>>78711267
Make sure to exclusively hire women and blacks to diversify your company! Even if they're woefully underequipped to actually do anything because they only majored in english, psychology, feminism, or basketball!
>>78712026
>psychology is pseudoscience
>feminists are rationals
>gender studies are rational, psychology isn't
>>78710959
When are you going to realise that feminism is a cult?
These personality tests seem dumb as fuck.
>>78712214
Sure thing, friend. Nice to see that you buy into the propaganda that everyone gets what they deserve.
This personality type thing is esoteric bullshit.
Mfw INTJ grill
Ugly though.
>>78711267
Hahaha MBA.
We grad schoolers laugh all day at you dunce cap cretins at Rotman thinking your actually learning anything of signifigance. Literally studying a middle manager degree, hahahah. You contribute ZERO original knowledge to the world. Pathetic.
Kiss my PhD in a year, bitch.
Hahahahah MBA, I love that joke hahahah.
>>78712338
You are the only one to mention gender studies, friendo. Furthermore, psychology isn't psuedoscience. I know this firsthand, as it was my minor in college. Neuroscience is one of the most difficult subjects of study, and even the 'softer' side of psych is well-attested in numerous journals. This, however, is utter clap trap. You have categorically failed to provide any proof evincing that feminists (or women as a whole) are illogical.
Do you think alchemy is the same thing as chemistry?
>>78712690
It won't be much of a joke when you beg for grants while I make four to five times your salary.
>>78712720
I dunno, I never met any women that wasn't emotional first, then rational second.
I would love me to provide me one that isn't some academical old lady that is part of the 1% of women.
>>78712601
p-post pics
>>78712720
calm down retard, we're just shitposting.
maybe you would like to provide a better test.
>>78712601
That's what grain bags are for, coyote. And floggers.
>>78712832
You say that as if the status quo was going to last.
You're only useful on this failing system.
>>78710492
Does this really mean anything
>>78712944
>>78713670
Then you just admitted to being an introvert who has no life experience. Congratulations.
And I don't think there is a better test, because human personality is more complex and more variable than something that can be defined using only a handful of traits.
>>78714782
>I've met rational women in college
>therefore the 5% means the 95% is rational because my social circle is filled with them
>let's ignore writings by the major male intelectuals disregarding the female intelect as inferior (shopenhauer)
>his only argument is my GF is smart, therefore all women are rational and smart
>hear on TV some oprah type of show where a female presenter complained males were emotionally illiterate unlike women
>his only argument are appeals to emotion
>non STEM fag
>we're all special snowflakes appeal
>TFW INFJ master race.
>>78715257
It is as if you read one book, and now consider yourself a philosphe. It would be amusing if it were not so pathetic.
Here is one of the main reasons I dislike the Meyers-Briggs test: because human personality changes over the course of a day, let alone a lifetime. At nine in the morning, when a woman reads the news on the internet, she can think rationally about what it means for her and the world. At lunch, when she is chatting with her coworkers, her emotions may take over. Then in the afternoon, perhaps she will be as logical about her job as possible. At different points of the day, she may consider some parts of her salient, and other parts not so much. Some decisions are weighed through the alembic of intuition, while others come from logical judgment.
Also, why would I prioritize Schopenhauer, or even male intellectuals, over others, such as Simone de Beauvoir?
>>78710492
>Pie graph
Probably eat it
>>78715257
As much as I dislike feminist, you have to admit these kind of tests are only for entertaiment purposes, they don't have any scientific, verifiable or solid bases.
Still INTP master race here.
>>78710492
MBTI is pseudoscience with no empirical validity. It's basically star signs for people who went to college.
>>78715794
>claim to have studied psychology in college
>ask for a better test
>that doesn't exists
>muh special snowflake
>we're too special to be cathegorized
give me a better test then.
>>78710492
INTP checking in
>>78710492
>you will never find an intp woman like yourself
;_;
>>78710492
ENTJ master race
>>78716723
There is no better test. It is like asking how to categorize unicorns.
>>78717378
>stadistics don't exist
>averages don't exist
>what is the point of scientific models, life is too complex
yeah, I forgot you're a manager, not some scientist.
Hey guys I've got a question for you. How good is a metric if someone who is Intp on Monday morning is an efgy on Tuesday? Isn't this just the equivalent of astrology but for pseudoscience majors and NEETs? Ok thanks for your answers in advance! God bless.
>>78717040
iktf
>>78710959
>as feminists tend to be more educated
ESTP master race, stepping through.
I love having high energy.
>>78714782
This.
These tests are indeed nothing more than a glorified astronomy test. Theyre fun though. Or do you hate fun you fucking cuck
>>78719288
he hates fun because he's a feminist cuck.
even if they were astrology they help define your tastes and potential carreers you may enjoy more.
I found I would love to manage a team of programmers and study CS.
>>78712720
>You have categorically failed to provide any proof evincing that feminists (or women as a whole) are illogical.
>Femenism
>not illogical
Feminism is and always was definitely illogical bullshit a and makes up made up problems to be offended about. There is zero reason for anyone to be one. It's idiocy that constantly holds victim Olympics and makes claims of "oppression" where there is none, even piggybacking off of other groups who have experienced legitimate oppression and thinking that gives them the right to claim so called oppression too,like those who formerly supported the establishment of Civil Rights for minorities in America country, etc.
>>78710492
>isFj
>esFj
>esFp
>isFp
>enFp
my girlfriend is based ISTJ
>>78710959
he's right you know
>males commit 80% of the crime in the world
>women are the most educated now that men are done using violent oppression to keep them down
think how far we would be if women were treated as equals from the beginning.
>>78710492
I'm a female with a fairly dominant by nature, ENTJ-A "Commander" personality. Aptitude tests have always indicated I am best geared in decision making positions like CEO or managerial careers.
I am not a typical, overly-emotional woman
>>78710492
>>78711063
>>78712601
>>78716952
>>78717040
I always find funny that even though INTJ and INTP are relatively uncommon, they are always the predominant in these kind of threads on 4chin.
>>78720191
Look at the correlation between INTJ/P and autism in various surveys
it explains a lot
>>78720191
>>78720247
Birds of a feather flock together.
INTP reporting in.
>>78720191
I think it might have connections with autism i am the only ENTJ fag here.
>>78710492
INTJ female here. Hermit-like 20yo.
>>78720625
>I'm the only one
nope.
>>78711063
>>78720717
Now kiss.
>>78720891
Who is not colombian.
>>78719938
>le women were oppressed may may
I am INTJ
people say INTJ is a meme. Why?
>>78710492
Myer's Briggs test is not scientific. It's completely made up and is essentially a glorified horoscope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5pggDCnt5M
>>78715485
Friend! I wish there were girls for us. Are there nerdy girls who aren't feminist hipsters?
Evalion's the only rational girl I can think of.
>>78710959
>he still believes the mbti is horoscopes meme
>>78721590
Trust me when I say they avoid all physical human contact and barely leave their homes.
>>78720247
Well, to diagnose someone as a Sperg, requires the same traits as to diagnose them as INTJ.
>>78711063
>tfw have big titted white INTJ wifey
so fucking based
>>78720191
Doesn't it make sense? Look at this place, everyone here is a social reject, who had little friends and spends a large portion of his time on the internet.
Although, it's becoming "main-stream", even finding this website requires a lot of knowledge of the internet. Let alone, this board.
Next, have you seen how many people collect flags? That's literally an aspergic trait.
>>78711063
>tfw big tits disgust me
I want a short girl with long blonde hair who's timid and shy, but super nerdy. Someone who I can care for. Someone who'll love me and need me.
>>78722284
Myers briggs is no different from the horoscope. You might as well say /pol/ is taurus.
>>78721676
It may not be Astrology, but you get a lot of retards who use it like Astrology,
>Oh I'm ENTP like Socrates. I'm just such a debater
>has never liked arguing before taking the mbti
>>78722284
Wait, there are people who really collect flags? I though it was a meme, the fuck.
>>78722524
>>78722679
>you can't have fun talking about astrology
you must be fun at parties, huh INTP losers, right?
>>78722524
Myers-Briggs is a lot different from Astrology.
The difference is that it's based on patterns, which make sense and describes things that are within logic.
Whereas Astrology, is literally based on date of birth. Although there are definitely many things that a date of birth could be related to(ex. someone might enjoy the month they were born more than other months.), it's still a barely even a pseudo-science.
>>78722723
This always happens with memes. People who don't get it start doing it wrong.
How retarded can you be to collect flags when people use proxies? I'm not even a Canadian.
>>78722835
You can have some sort of enjoyment out of it. But, honestly it's completely unreliable and relies on ignorance of external factors
>>78722928
>The difference is that it's based on patterns, which make sense and describes things that are within logic.
That's astrology you're talking about.
Myers briggs was made up by people with no scientific background.
Neither Isabel Briggs Myers nor Katherine Briggs had any formal psychological training.
Even renowned psychological theorist Carl Jung, whose writing formed the initial inspiration for the Myers-Briggs test, admitted that terms such as “introvert” and “extrovert” were false dichotomies and entirely too limited to either adequately describe or predict human behavior.
Up to half of the people who take the test a second time end up with a different personality classification, even if they take it within five weeks of the first test, just like a fucking horoscope.
According Annie Murphy Paul’s The Cult of Personality Testing, “as many as three-quarters of test takers achieve a different personality type when tested again…and the sixteen distinctive types described by the Myers-Briggs have no scientific basis whatsoever.”
Multiple studies have clearly demonstrated that the MBTI is incapable of accurately predicting job performance.
The test is used by most Fortune 500 corporations, but it is not typically used by professional psychologists.
Stanford University psychology professor Carl Thoreson, who is on the board of the company that issues the MBTI, has never mentioned the test in the over 150 academic papers he’s published. “I didn’t use it in any of my research,” Thoreson says, “in part because it would be questioned by my academic colleagues.”
The National Academy of Arts and Sciences conducted a study that concluded that the S-N and T-F scales had little to no validity.
There is absolutely no scientific basis for the test’s terminology, which has been criticized as “vague and general.”
Need i go on? It's pseudoscience that tells us what we want to hear. Just like most science fiction.
>>78711063
>judging
you fucked it up
>>78710959
>the Meyers-Briggs test is astrology for pseudo-intellectuals.
This is perfect. MB is fucking nonsense.
>>78718067
Depending on the test you could fall into either side. Nothing is absolute and some people are more introverted than others for example. I'm close to 50/50 thinking/feeling and can come out intp or infp depending on the test (usually infp though).
Being intp one day and esfj another is highly fucking unlikely.
That one website for this test has a breakdown of where you fall for each category.
>>78723491
>Being intp one day and esfj another is highly fucking unlikely.
Take the test again. I fucking dare you.
>>78722470
>austis are triggered when people have fun doing the test
>they think anybody here really believes in it
;^)
low IQ retards.
>>78723594
I've taken it a dozen times on different sites
I got INTP every time except INTJ once or twice
>>78723678
>sites
You know the only official ones are the ones you have to pay for?
>>78723678
Wait, a dozen times? How fucking narcissistic are you?
>>78717762
Statistics and averages do exist, but there is a point of diminishing returns. Statistics and averages are prone to changing though to a point where they are not valid.
>>78723788
I'm 32, I was curious if it would change over time
>>78723745
>paying for myers briggs
a scam, you get the same results
Daily reminder that INTJs are natural fucking commies and are the reason reddit is the way it is.
This is complete bullshit. I bet the study was conducted by a male. Biased results to encourage women to stay below men in society. I'm sick of the patriarchy's influence in science.
>>78720191
>mfw INTP when I first took the test three years ago
>mfw now ESFP
>>78719534
What is it with alt-righters and shitty infographics?
Just because a problem doesn't personally have an effect on you doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
>>78723594
I've taken it 3 times total you retard on 2 different sites. Twice infp and once intp.
Why don't you take the test? Maybe your autismo is interfering with the results.
>INFJ male
hot damn i'm a snowflake
>>78721554
Every pretentious genius ever was an INTJ. And yes, they are geniuses, but their introversion causes them to be incredibly awkward with normies, leading to them still being pretentious despite being outcasts.
Mfw when I'm both enfp and entp. Both descriptions encapsulate me.
>>78723659
>his initial post is something serious
>haha it is just for fun guize stop trying to understand it
You're a fucking coward.
>>78724138
It's not a scientific test, that's why. It was invented by two dumb women.
>>78724036
Stalin dominated Europe for many years. I'd rather be a Nazi, but I do have tendencies to favor ideologies that waver towards communism.
Personally, I'm quite Nationalist though.
>>78720191
Its got something to do with the people 4chan attracts and the mode of thinking people have while here.
>>78710492
>tfw INFP
>INFP equal among men and women
Thats surprising, I assumed most INFPs would be women.
>>78724240
I'm really gifted at shitposting.
;)
>>78720191
It's why 4chan meetups are always terrible. We're all aspies.
>>78724559
No, you're tpo fucking dumb to actually support any claims you make so you hide even the scintilla of intelligence you possess under a thin veneer of trolling.
>feminists tend to be more educated meme
Wrong. Feminists tend to go to college and graduate more, but the "education" they get is just indoctrination. As far as I'm concerned, that's not true education.
We've made college into the new high school. It's become necessary in order to get a decent-paying job, and as a result, it caters to the lowest common denominator. Throw in the fact that SJW bullshit pervades higher education now, and I'm not impressed. The very fact that we have bullshit majors like Race and Migration and Gender Studies cheapens the value of just having a degree.
That's not to say that having a degree is worthless, or that college-educated people don't tend to know more than people who don't go to college. All I'm saying is that the degree alone no longer holds any weight. The proof of somebody being truly educated lies in the knowledge accumulated and in the ability to apply it. Feminists in particular clearly aren't capable of following an argument, spotting doublethink, entertaining ideas without having to accept them, analyzing statsistics, drawing upon historical precedent, or thinking and reading critically.
>>78724756
>scintilla
Really? You have to try that hard?
>>78724756
wew, you discover me.
you discover my secret plan.
;^)
let's back to talk about the test and how great I am.
>>78724845
What can I say, psuedoscience and cowardice make me angry.
>>78710492
Women cant read charts
>>78725021
They make you autistic too? Nobody uses scintilla unless they're desperate to impress people.
>>78725021
I like to argue.
also I like to argue about diferent stuff because that allow for people to discuss things, and I learn new memes that way.
So, It's half sincere and half trolling.
making people angry is also fun.
:^)
>>78724825
You can apply critical thinking skills to social situations. 'SJW bullshit' carries the weight of fifty years of study, while alt-righters have, uh, screenshots? Race is something that has an effect on how we interact in social settings, and it is worth studying. And sometimes, it doesn't say 'white people are awesome!'.
If you believe that the value of degrees has inflated, then you will hear no argument from me. But if you think people who don't have degrees on average have opinions that are more thought out or more fact based than those with degrees, then you are simply an idiot.
>>78725229
If you don't read books, that is fine. Just please keep your opinions to yourself. Language is a tool, and I am ok with you being a caveman.
>>78710492
I know an INTJ chick, didn't know she was so rare.
Still emotionally unstable though anyway and always looks for something to argue about.
>>78721676
>MTBI
>true
>>78710492
>how do feminist react to this?
They will over-react because muh "equality"
>>78722470
>He fell for le nerdy girl meme
>>78725340
alt-righters have Japan.
Mono-racial countries = better.
>>78725340
>>78725447
>claims is BS
>has no better alternative test
>muh special snowflake
;^)
>>78725236
I am sure it is, friend. It also makes it where nothing you say is under scrutiny, meaning that anything you may wish to say seriously is moot.
You are the intellectual equivalent of some homeless person ranting on the street.
>>78725641
The same Japan that has been in recession for the past two decades? The same Japan that is terribly mendacious about their actual rates of criminality? The same Japan that is facing the largest demographic crisis the world has seen thus far?
That Japan?
>>78725662
Arrogant as fuck
>>78724182
I know that exact feel.
>>78725340
>'SJW bullshit' carries the weight of fifty years of study
toppest of kekes
>>78725643
You would be better off on a Spanish speaking forum. It is clear your English comprehension skills are terrible.
I will post a better test when you post a chart explaining the social stratification of fairies.
>>78725858
Sure.
>>78725830
Yeah.
Money ain't everything
It's about pride and the content from your heart, the content only you and your race are capable of making.
Japan having less young people is a good thing right now, less impressionable minds to cause immigration and more crime/terrorist attacks.
Every race deserves to exist, to shill for immigration is to say otherwise.
>>78725447
>language is a tool
>so i'll use a power drill instead of a screwdriver so everyone will know that I HAVE THE BEST TOOLS ME ME ME ME!
fucking lol.
>>78725340
>You can apply critical thinking skills to social situations.
Yeah, and I never said otherwise. I said that feminists are, in general, incapable of doing so.
>'SJW bullshit' carries the weight of fifty years of study
I'd argue that calling it "study" is a bit generous. I've read the crap that SJW's read because I don't think it's fair of me to have an opinion of it without having done so. And I do the same thing with other sources I disagree with (i.e. "intelligent design" based textbooks and such), and I earnestly try to be open-minded and not take everything as a strawman argument. It's garbage. Having 50 years behind it carries no weight.
>while alt-righters have, uh, screenshots?
See, now you're trying to peg me as an alt-righter (I'm not) and ignoring what was actually ludicrous about my screenshot. For the record, this woma came to speak at my college, and she's every bit as silly as I make her out to be, and a racist to boot.
>If you believe that the value of degrees has inflated, then you will hear no argument from me. But if you think people who don't have degrees on average have opinions that are more thought out or more fact based than those with degrees, then you are simply an idiot.
Read my post again, and you'll see exactly what I said about people who have degrees on average versus people who don't. You're trying really hard to make me out to be an idiot, and it's not going to stick. This is where those reading skills I brought up come in. You're typically supposed to keep in mind what a person has said when responding to it.
As I get older I get less I, slightly more F and even more P than I already was. Though I appreciate them more, I'll never understand the life of a J.
>>78725563
>he didn't even know how mbti worked a minute ago
>he thinks he's entitled to an opinion
>>78725662
>>78725926
So you claim that psychology can't make stadistical analisis of common personality traits and group people based on polls with huge data?
Hell, there's even models of chaotic shit like climate and clouds and hurricanes.
I'm sure personality can't be as complex as climate.
>but we're special snowflakes
>let's ignore the personality tests that are more scientific
>>78710959
>>78726263
Stop snorting coke.
>>78726608
>what are clusters
>>78726081
Please, point out a reason why I shouldn't hold myself in higher esteem than those I am arguing against.
I'll wait.
If you think I am going to apologize for having an expansive vocabulary, I won't.
>>78726726
Ohh, you're trying to say Psychohistory is possible.
yeah, maybe.
>>78726263
It can't.
The joke is, of course, Meyers-Briggs is just as unscientific as every "feminist" theory and pretty much 99% of all social science.
But double-think is a common issue with liberals.
>>78726771
>Please, point out a reason why I shouldn't hold myself in higher esteem than those I am arguing against.
Cause you're not better than anyone. Thinking that you are automatically disqualifies you.
In this thread: Autists that don't leave their basements
>>78726771
You ignored my post.
>>78726044
>>78727007
>In this website: Autists that don't leave their basements
FTFY
>>78710492
INTJ master race.
>>78726811
>>78726884
I'm literally arguing that humans personality tend to group in clusters, same as those DNA test, there are clusters.
I'm not talking about Meyers-Briggs.
I'm asking about a better designed test, I'm sure there must be in the psychology comunity.
fucking retards.
>you can't measure height or weight
>every person has an unique weight and height
>therefore making averages of height and weight are impossible.
>>78726206
What you were saying was so vague and done before that the exact timbre of it was meaningless. You paint all feminists with the same brush yet somehow expect to be treated as if your words mean anything. But let's delve into it, shall we?
Supposing you have read what 'SJWs' read, which is generous, what did you find particularly loathsome or unworthy of your critical gaze? Having 50 years behind it intrinsically carries no weight, sure, but they had to be impressing someone to keep going that long, surely?
You directly said that having a degree alone carries no weight. That is what I was responding to, but your lack of reading skills led you astray.
>>78727275
Oh. The issue with that is that psychology is not a science.
I think neuroscience may be able to do it, but since people could call such a thing racist, good luck getting sufficient funding.
>>78726884
Meyers-Briggs is plenty scientific in that it follows the rules of empiricism and the scientific method very well. It just violates the unspoken rule of science: that it meditates over something concrete and useful over which valuable conclusions can be soundly predicted.
In that sense it, like much of psychology (and formalism in general), is statistical masturbation rather than straight pseudo-science.
>>78727275
We can't measure personality in a scientific way.
I'm not saying it's worthless, but there is nothing scientific about it.
>>78726771
>expansive vocabulary
Is that you intj?
>>78727353
>If i claim to be a wise man, well it surely means i don't know.
>>78727353
>Having 50 years behind it intrinsically carries no weight, sure, but they had to be impressing someone to keep going that long, surely?
>I'm totally smart
>check out my shitty argument from authority
In-fucking-credible.
>>78727462
>Meyers-Briggs is plenty scientific in that it follows the rules of empiricism and the scientific method very well
No it doesn't, and neither does anything in the social sciences. Non of it is verifiable.
>>78726904
I don't hold myself categorically better than anyone. When I talk to someone who makes shoes for a living, I trust that he or she knows more about shoemaking than me, and thus voluntarily submit to his or her authority on the subject of shoemaking. On this topic, my evaluation of certain posters' comments lack value and see no need to denigrate myself.
>>78727582
...argument from authority is not fallacious. An appeal to false authority is fallacious.
>>78727389
>>78727463
you can measure the personality following the scientific method.
1. Make hypothesis
2. Test the data using stadistics
3. Does the hypothesis fit the data? (Yes/No)
4. Go to step 1.
>>78727469
>I know shit so everyone must know shit.
>>78727861
>Does the hypothesis fit the data? (Yes/No)
That's the point, you cant' check.
This isn't rocket science. It's a well known fact that social science is not scientific. That's why they put the word "social" in front it, so you can differentiate it from actual science .
>>78727203
Your post wasn't worth discussing.
>>78727861
Yes, i said that neuroscience can do that, since psychology is not a science.
But such research would step on people's prized notions about themselves, like being special snowflakes or abbos not all being retarded rapists, and you'd get a lot of political backlash and find it hard to get funding.
It's like trying to research nuclear power. All you get is idiots yelling at you.
>>78727995
>>78728145
Nobody could possibly doubt your severe social deficits. Homeschooled much?
>>78722470
A FUCKING LEAF
>>78728275
You've really given up, haven't you?
>>78728105
>>78728175
I browse /sci/ dumbass.
you can still make preditions and make new polls to test the data.
you're arguing that stadistics don't work.
one example:
will INTP or other label for personality will like more X on this certain percentaje based on logical deductions?
make new poll.
See if it fit the data.
>>78727664
It literally does. Tell me how it violates either empiricism or the scientific method. Meyers-Briggs made some observations, made a hypothesis: that people's personality fall into a measurable set of axes of personality, and then it formalizes that measurement through test. And, indeed, the results of the test prove to be reproducible: people DO fall into fairly measurable distributions along these axes when tested under questionnaire following certain principals. They can change personality over time, but when re-testing with a different questionnaire following the same principals, the results fall very closely aligned. This is literally the scientific method.
You fall into the trap of associating sweeping conclusions that people make based on the results of the Meyers-Briggs theory with the theory itself. The fact that no such conclusions can survive the test of empiricism doesn't prove that the theory is not science, it proves that it's not very good science.
>>78727664
Pic related is what you are doing you retard. You are an empirical thinker. Just because you can't understand something unless it's empirical doesn't mean there aren't other ways to verify if something is true.
Some of is can use logic and personal experience. But you're most likely a raging intj autist.
And by the way mbti has already been verified through EEG brain activity. Go look up Dario nardi.
>>78710492
>all the top ones for women are feeling
>all the top ones for men are thinking
thats how I know this is true kek
>>78727664
Forgot pic
>>78710492
I don't know but Myers-Briggs is bs. Might as well use horoscopes.
>>78710492
Why is r9k in here?
>>78728417
>I browse /sci/ dumbass.
Then how come you don't know that social science is not science?
>you can still make preditions and make new polls to test the data.
Nice goal posting moving, faggot.
>>you're arguing that statistics don't work.
Nice straw-man, faggot.
Remember all that "data means nothing on its own" and correlation" does "not equal causation?
That's because social sciences is not verifiable, but deals with solely unscientific interpretations of data that can't be replicated.
>>78728414
Yeah, i share that trait with your parents.
>>78728417
>I browse /sci/ dumbass.
What's that mean? You're good at trolling?
>tfw woman
>tfw INFJ
>>78715485
>feeling
faggot
>>78728810
they're called soft because they deal with the human nature and soft facts rather than objective shit (the natural world).
fucking dumbass don't even know the definition.
they're still science because they try to follow the scientific method.
sure, economics may be a little spooky and there's shit like marxism, but overall economics strive to use math and evidence, like any real hard science.
same as real clinical psychology or even sociology.
they can be even more strict than hard science at some points if they use mathematical models.
>>78729113
You just rekt me, friend. Don't know how I am going to recover.
>>78718067
I've only ever gotten one type when I've taken MBTI tests
>>78710492
Glorious INTP master race reporting.
>>78712690
lol the amount of potential earnings gained from getting educated goes up with bachelors, slightly less then with MBA THEN DROPS WITH PhD.
I have fun wasting years and money on a doctorate no one will take seriously that most likely won't earn you any extra money.
Toppest of kek, you bought the "higher degree meenz moar moneyzz" meme
>>78729258
> soft facts
I like how you made up a new term to deal with the fact that you can't actual provide real facts. Or verifiable and repeatable experiments, or any sort of laws.
kek
>they're still science because they try to follow the scientific method.
and fail
I don't have anymore time for this.
Educate yourself. I'm not saying social sciences are all worthless, though a good deal of it is. Patterm recognition has value in itself. But stop pretending you can draw any sort of objective and scientific information from them.
>>78729258
>they're still science because they try to follow the scientific method.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/side-effects/201401/the-mathematics-happiness-turns-out-be-fraud
>fooled for years by a simple fluid dynamics formula masquerading as a happiness formula.
>science
NNNNNOPE.
I used to be an INTJ before 4chan, now I'm an ENFJ or something completely different, I forget.
Daily reminder anyone with an F rather than a T is a faggot incapable of rational thought
>>78729630
>>78729716
feel free to explain better ways to study such subjects then.
>muh only STEM mathers
>muh only hard science matters
fucking autists
>>78727353
>they had to be impressing someone to keep going that long, surely?
There's plenty of stupid literature that impressed a lot of people for a very long time. That doesn't make it right, or add any weight to it.
>your lack of reading skills led you astray.
I would hope that I've accumulated some reading skills in my weekly consumption of 300-500 pages of text. maybe they're not on display here.
>Supposing you have read what 'SJWs' read, which is generous, what did you find particularly loathsome or unworthy of your critical gaze?
In particular? Gloria Steinem and Betty Freidan, which is kind of funny, because they're admittedly pretty different on a lot of important positions. I feel like they actually compartmentalize and limit a lot of the groups they claim to support in their writings, I'm of the opinion that they point out a lot of problems without recognizing the reasons behind their existence and without proposing a viable alternative, I feel like the chapter about "Dehumanization" or whatever in The Feminine Mystique is overblown and laughably self-indulgent, I feel like there's some nice, subtle racism and homophobia in there, I feel like their views on pornography are overblown and don't address the real problem of it, and so on. Really, I could go on, but I don't want to derail this thread with an anti-feminist diatribe.
Speaking of self-indulgent and stupid, though, Deborah Tannen. I disagree with her views on dialogue, but that might be from a place of my own bias towards straightforward and literal speaking.
That, and the entire concept of the "patriarchy." All right, I'm done.
>You directly said that having a degree alone carries no weight.
And it really doesn't carry any weight on its own. It proves that you can follow a syllabus.
>>78720191
>I always find funny that even though INTJ and INTP are relatively uncommon,
Fuck if this is true, especially for the Thinking and Intuition bits.
Seems like everyone else is a fucktard who can't look at things logically.
>hey mate this code you wrote doesn't work, it crashes with a segfault for the following input: [...]
>guy gets super defensive and pissed
For fuck's sake can't you keep your emotions at bay for 5 minutes?
I told you your code doesn't work, it's not like I told you you're an idiot and you don't deserve to live or something.
>>78718067
the test is different from astrology because it is based on how you react to situations rather than random inconsequential bullshit
the fact that a person changes between the various groups makes sense, because contrary to what all the sites hosting the tests say, the 16 groups aren't personalities, they're ways of thinking and tackling situations. humans are adaptable, if we all took one singular approach to all situations from birth to death human kind likely wouldn't have gotten this far
the test itself is imperfect and could use alot of work, however the concept itself is sound
>>78730109
>the mri is fake!
>my soul is special!
I keep telling you to lay off the coke, jose.
>tfw ISTP/ESTP f
>tfw no entj or estp bf
>>78730109
Neuroscience is all you have and your best hope.
>fucking autists
That's pretty ironic, coming from someone who is so butthutt that people don't approve of his pseudoscience he has to resort to name calling.
What where the 5 stages of grief again?
>>78730173
Actually, no, wait, I'm not done. Any reading list that has anything to do with the pseudoscientific "theory" of melanin supremacy (and most of them aren't guilty of this) is immediately discredited in my eyes.
>>78730345
>>78730413
learn to read dumbass.
I wasn't talking about the meyers tests but the value of social sciences as sciences.
learn to understand the flow of the conversation.
fucking autists.
yes, the test is poorly done, this doesn't mean isn't science.
It's newton a bad physics because it's finding poorly describe modern physics?
It's euclides a bad mathematician because modern math is better?
fucking retards.
>>78729188
>doesn't realize Hitler was INFJ
What are you even doing on /pol/, Untermensch?
>>78710492
Who else #ENTJ
>>78730857
Wow, you moved on from Anger to Bargaining super fast.
Nice.
>>78730857
I haven't been following your reply chain, but...
It's disputable whether Euclid is worse than modern math at all. Sure, he can't abstract the same way, but he created a beautiful, perfectly self-contained system of mathematics that relies on very few assumptions, and there's a lot of dispute in mathematics over whether later mathematicians aren't just pulling pure bullshit.
Seriously, Euclid's Elements is such a good book that the amount of fun you can have with it is limited only by your imagination.
#Postulate54Lyfe
>>78710492
Of course they will reject that men are better decision makers.
>>78710959
feminists are all about astrology, are you retarded
>>78710959
>as feminists tend to be more educated
>>78731112
kek.
I'm passionate about shitposting on this page, and have years of experience shitposting furiously and autistically.
It's called talent kid.
>>78731229
does the test is poorly done science today?
yes.
does the test is science?
Yes, but poorly done.
does the test insight and knowledge is worhtless?
Nope, not a chance.
These "personality types" are literally the zodiac for (supposedly) smart people.
>>78731787
try to read an astrology and ocult science book for once STEM autist.
it's fun
>>78710492
Reminder that if you're not *NT* you're basically disposable.
>>78731663
I honestly have trouble figuring out what it is you meant.
>>78732169
Sorry to break it to you, but we're the disposable ones.
Are we more useful to humanity in a utilitarian sense? Yeah. But it's not like we or our progeny reap the benefits of what we create, for the most part. We're there to contribute something and MAYBE pass down our genes, all to the benefit of the feeling, perceiving populace at large. And that's okay.
>discover this test a decade ago
>get INTP
>try it again today
>get INTP
Glad to see my intellect hasn't changed since middle school. *tip*
>>78732523
astrology isn't nothing more that acumulated empirical observations about people that was born in a certain date, acumulated through hundreds of years.
magic isn't nothing more than auto hypnosis and conditioning to change people behaviour throught placebo effect and cognitive bias.
They're real.
Fucking STEM autists who can't understand nothing beyond math.
>>78710492
INFJ gender breakdown is roughly the same. I doubt many of us subscribe to isms.
The only platonic love I've ever had for a woman, was with an INFJ woman; precisely because there are people for whom flesh is a cage, and not a basis for self-concept.
>>78712690
I have an MBA from Ross. PhD's sit around and beg for chump change to play grownup.
>>78732656
>INTP are supposed to be ~3% of the population
>We're a fuckton in this thread alone
>durr /pol/ is full uneducated racist simpletons
I guess it makes sense though.
Even when it comes to racism, we don't let muh feelings get in the way of the hard data.
>>78724397
me too. I thought the same thing. Turns out men are just as compassionate and communicative as women.
>reminder that both these men were INFJs
>>78724085
You hit the nail on the head of why it's bullshit. It has very little re-test validity. The construct of 'personality' as described by the Myers-Briggs had low external validity since its types and categories don't highly correlate to other concepts of personality/personality traits and a person isn't highly likely to score similarly from day to day, year to year or in different environments/with different company of people. So if is test doesn't measure something that is a consist determiner of outlook and behaviour then it isn't looking at personality in any meaningful way.
Also self-report about attitudes doesn't correlate well with actually behaviour [see: tough talking /pol/ scum that think they are pure aryan specimens and feminism is to blame for their persistent virginity, rather than that they don't have a personality and aren't nearly as nice as they think they are] and also when businesses use the Myers-Brigges as a factor for hiring it's been found that the employees don't score any higher on competency than when it isn't used, so it's not functional either.
Source: my neuro/psych degree
>>78734546
M8 I've changed a ton over the last few years. I've become more outgoing and much more in-tuned to empathy and caring about others. My life's never been better. That's why I'm a happy ESFP instead of a depressed ISTP.
>>78715794
You just flat out admitted that women are ruled by emotion.
And temporary emotion should not play into the results of the MB test. It doesn't ask how you feel about specific topics. Whether you are happy or sad when you take the test, you should have enough self awareness to be able to answer honestly and accurately.
I have taken the test 5 times over the years (I'm 33), and I have gotten the same result each time. Although, I have been a Taoist since I was 13, and finding my true nature has always been the ultimate priority, so maybe I am just more in touch with my personality than others.
I am an INFP, by the way, and that describes me to a T. And everyone close to me agrees.
>>78723826
But there are personality test that are accepted in the scientific community. How could there not be? That is one of the main purposes of psychology.
>>78734546
>make claim that there's only three colors (yellow, blue, red)
>but this observation isn't true, there are millions of colors, orange, pink, brown, violet
>there's special snowflakes colors
>you can't have an inbetween color
>you scored yellow green on the morning, then blue green on the afternoon
>the theory is wrong
>REEEEEEEEEEE
>>78729589
He is talking about actually contributing something to the world and specifically to the field, you capitalist, greedy, Jewish scumbag.
>>78713989
BTFO
>>78729188
>Doesn't realize that feeling=passion
>>78723942
Same. I'm 33. INFP every time.
>>78722284
I have always had a GF and a lot of friends. We all visit 4chan, and have for many years. That stereotype just isn't true. A lot of lurkers have social lives.
And there is also the issue that whenever a person posts anything about themselves that goes against the "we are all social outcasts and losers", they get lambasted.
But I am also schizoid anti-social personality disorder, so there must be some truth to it. I don't hate people, but I hate inane social situations. I have to have intimate relationships to be satisfied. I absolutely abhor chit-chat.
>>78725229
I 100% hate people like you with all of my heart. Anyone that condemns others for being intelligent or having a large vocabulary should die. I have been told the exact same thing for using words like superfluous or ubiquitous, when those words are the most appropriate way to communicate the given idea.
There are people who are try-hards attempting to sound smart, but you can always tell when they are doing so. They usually use words like "whilst".
>>78727702
Do not fret. Anyone who condemns another for use of language or intelligence in general is no better than a nigger. I guarantee the people who are vituperating are the same people who use senpai unironically and praise KEK.
>>78722470
>Nerdy
This is just a byword for unhealthy, insecure and withdrawn. Plus you will never shake the suspicion that her nerdiness is insincere. Nerdy girls are the worst, and the ones you have in your mind are actually extroverted actresses approximating something that doesn't exist. What you really want is to fulfil your weird fantasy of having a girlfriend who will respect you for wasting your life playing DOTA and painting warhammer.
