http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/world/307276/eu-push-to-remove-uk-immediately
>EU working to remove UK as fast as possible not giving them proper time to create deals with member states and the EU its self
>Openly saying this is to deter other nations from leaving.
Some fucking union.
I'm worried about you Brits. I can almost sympathise with the view they rigged it for you to leave so as to show everyone else the ride they have in store.
Fuck worrying about Scots cucks and their temper tantrum.
This one will hurt you.
>HAHAHA FUCK YOU EU WE LEAVING.
>p-p-please let us stay for another 2 years
its still a 2 year process no matter what junk face says
>>78669310
They can do fuck all.
We have to trigger Article 50
>>78670214
Im sure he can do whatever he wants. The EU has shown many times a blatant disregard for rules and established conventions.
>>78670053
>its still a 2 year process no matter what junk face says
Based on what?
>>78670214
You don't have to, actually.. You can still remain if your leaders decide to.
>>78670255
that wouldnt look good for the EU especially as things are so volatile at the moment. Either way its a win for Nationalism.
>>78669310
>shilling radionz
Smhtbhfam
>>78669310
Sacrificial lamb tactic
This is because being european brothers looking out for each others best interests only applies to countries willing to be serfs to the federalist scum.
>>78670053
It's 2 years AT MAXIMUM
Meaning that once 2 years have passed, your exclusion is automatic and irrevocable
>>78670452
2 years is the deadline set out in the EU treaty, one that can be extended. If the UK wants to, they can just stall forever.
>EU wants us to trigger article 50 IMMEDIATELY
>Lisbon treaty states it is up to the individual nation when it triggers article 50
What are they going to do exactly other than scowl menacingly and put out joint statements. This shit is why we are leaving
>>78670452
well our leaders can decide to put up with a few thousand angry pink haired Londoners holing refugees welcome signs or a few hundred thousand angry working class people throwing petrol bombs
>>78670725
these people exist, and they can vote...
>>78670725
>>78669310
"Don't talk to me or my cucks ever again"
>US, Germany and Cucknadia all want special deals with Britain now that she's left that faggot EU.
>"Tiems r lookn bad fur Eenglund"
Wait until China eventually steps in and wants Emporer Britainnia to cum opium all over its face again while paying for it.
do it, kick us out so your treaties are null and void, show the rest of the world your other face.
this is exactly why we should be in charge of our own fates. fuck the EU, bring back europe with jolly co-operation.
>>78670737
>2 years is the deadline set out in the EU treaty,
That only kicks in once the Article 50 request is made though, and when that request has been made the 2 years basically becomes the maximum term.
>one that can be extended. If the UK wants to, they can just stall forever.
No, they can't. Because extending the period requires the European Council to unanimously decide to extend that period.. Somehow I doubt they're going to give Britain more time.
If anything, this just demonstrates what a disgusting cabal the EU was in the first place. They literally seek to punish Great Britain for daring to be free.
Maybe I'm just naïve, but why couldn't they look at Great Britain as a parent would a matured offspring, finally grown and striking out on their own?
Man, fuck the EU. Fuck 'em.
>>78670053
Yes, they're calling on Britain to officially start that process as soon as possible.
>>78671628
>punish
What? I thought leaving was the entire point? How is the EU punishing the UK bu insisting they make good on leaving?
>>78669310
They can't be kicked out, only voluntarily leave.
The UK should just veto every EU decision from now on to fuck with them.
>>78671478
>do it, kick us out so your treaties are null and void, show the rest of the world your other face.
If you do get kicked out it'll probably be construed on failing to meet the terms of Article 2 TEU, and then the UK's voting rights will be suspended under Article 7 TEU.. If Britain doesn't move to invoke Article 50, or commits NOT to for too long, something like this might happen:
>Britain, you've had a vote on leaving the Union, and your people decided
>Based on Article 2 TEU you're supposed to have respect for democracy and the rule of law, and your PM promised to abide by the results of the referendum
>We've concluded that Britain did not abide by the results of the democratic referendum, and as such is in violation of the values of Article 2 TEU, and as a result will be penalised under Article 7 TEU.
>Your voting rights in the Union have been revoked, Britain
Trust me. You're in for a ride if you think the UK leaders can try to fuck the EU over now...
>>78671628
So if Texas voted to leave the US the rest of you would be total tyrants for basically saying "Well pack your fucking bags then?"
>>78671628
>They literally seek to punish Great Britain for daring to be free.
>implying
You voted to leave. Now you need to pack your shit and go, rather than muddying up the relationship even further... It's like when you file for divorce and then don't pack your shit and don't move out of the house. It doesn't work like that.
>>78671817
>The UK
>Vetoing SHIT in the EU
There's a reason they wanted to leave in the first place m8...
>>78671035
average_redditor.jpg
I swear most american leftists are basically that as well.
>>78672073
Exactly.
>>78669310
This is not in any way bad.
I want us to leave asap so there's 0 chance of any backpeddling happening.
Thanks you damp rag looking fuck. Kick us out now. I fucking dare you.
>>78672073
When you file for divorce and things like property and children are involved you dont just remove each other from your separate lives. You invest time into ensuring a proper split.
The EU is seeking to torpedo Britain's chances of negotiating properly while they are leaving so as to fuck them and have a warning to others.
>>78669310
>not giving them proper time to create deals with member states
The EU has the sole power to negotiate trade deals with external countries for the member states. It is impossible for the UK to have separate trade deals with e.g. Germany or France. It is the EU alone which negotiates.
On a more realistic note, there is literally nothing the EU can do to force the UK to hand in a "we want to leave Article 50" notice. Vice versa, the UK cannot force the EU to negotiate before the Article 50 notice is handed in.
It all doesn't matter anyway, Merkel is in charge and she has already said there will be a good deal for the UK and everybody should be calm.
>>78671757
>How is the EU punishing the UK bu insisting they make good on leaving?
But are they not also trying to make it more difficult for Britain to cultivate ANY type of relationship with European countries?
Maybe I'm reading the situation wrong, but it seems like they're saying, "Okay, you wanna leave? Fine. We'll cut you off completely. You'll never work in this town again!" *slams door*
This whole "you're with us or against us" stance just make the EU look like a bunch of dicks.
>>78672143
They haven't left yet m8. Until they actually invoke article 50 I assume they can veto shit?
>>78671409
>Wait until China eventually steps in and wants Emporer Britainnia to cum opium all over its face again while paying for it.
lol
Seriously though, fuck the europes. As soon as merkal invited all of africa it was over.
>>78672247
>I want us to leave asap so there's 0 chance of any backpeddling happening.
The notice to leave will not be handed in this year. There needs to be a very concrete timeline negotiated and laid out and all major topics been put on the table before Article 50 is triggered. I don't expect this to be done before next year and I do not expect the UK to leave before 2020 at the earliest.
>>78669310
UK is beyond fucked. UK is gonna split up within a year. The Irish will probably start bombing shit again too.
GREAT JOB DUMBASSES!
>>78670398
you clearly dont understsand hwo tarrifs work
anything they slap on us tarrif wise, the WTO lets us slap on them.
a fifth of german cars get sold to the U.K annually, the Germans would end up paying the U.K more in tarrif costs than the other way around.
Its really quite astounding people cant understand this.
>>78670660
If you actually read the paragraph that you are referring to you would know that that isnt true
>>78672301
>When you file for divorce and things like property and children are involved you dont just remove each other from your separate lives. You invest time into ensuring a proper split.
Investing time into ensuring a proper split in a divorce means you arrange custodial matters and arrange for your common house to be sold or arrange for one partner to buy the other out. Moving out happens fairly quickly after that... Once divorces are filed, arrangements tend to take off right way. One partner typically leaves to live with family or friends for the time being..
You don't just carry on as usual for a few years to get the best possible deals everywhere.
UK needs to fucking realise that maybe the commonwealth is where its at. Instead of trading with turkroaches and krauts, maybe they should support THE FUCKING NATIONS THAT FOUGHT TWO WORLD WARS FOR THEM.
Give us 2 weeks and we'll have trade deals with the free world. Fuck the EU.
>>78671757
Leaving means making deals before leaving entirely, the EU wants to sabotage the "making deals" part so the UK will have a hard time after they leave permanently. This is to deter other countries from leaving
>Don't leave goy, didn't you see what we did to the UK.
It is literally bullying, good shout that the UK left.
>>78672354
>The EU has the sole power to negotiate trade deals with external countries for the member states. It is impossible for the UK to have separate trade deals with e.g. Germany or France. It is the EU alone which negotiates.
Do you know what De Jure and De Facto is?
Ultimately the EU is a number of very large buildings run by an unaccountable twat, Germany is actually a country. But yeah, Merkel is in charge, trying to chill the fuck out of the situation.
In 2 years time the EU might look completely different, if exist at all - it's almost bully-boy stance does not make it look in the eyes of people in other countries in the EU, who may very well be given similar referendums soon.
>>78669533
>A Dane sucking up to the EU
Come on m8, stop shitposting.
>>78669310
>EU gives us up to 2 years to prepare ourselves for an exit
>Commission want to disregard their own laws to spite a country
Kek, way to shoot yourself in the foot once again EU.
As said before.
GET THE FUCK OUT AND STAY OUT!
>>78672670
They will come to us, Aussie and Canada.
We dont make cars or other such specialised material though.
>>78672665
>implying leaving an economic federalist union with no other organsiation emulating anything like it in the world is like a divorce.
you really disappoint me sometimes toothpaste
>>78672805
no but Japan does
>>78671957
you're supposed to have respect for democracy and the rule of law
the referendum wasn't legally binding, the Houses just promised that they will follow whatever the result will be. EU can't do shit.
>>78670452
>Based on what?
Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty, and we've not even set it In motion yet.
>>78672812
Wait mate. That's not it. Leaving the EU is like a divorce. This means that as the weaker partner we get to take half of the EU's wealth and territory when we leave.
>>78669310
REMOVE TEA FROM PREMISES
>>78672398
>They haven't left yet m8. Until they actually invoke article 50 I assume they can veto shit?
They can't veto shit as EU Members, only on very specific matters. When it comes to the four freedoms (Free movement of workers, capital, services/establishment and people) and the common market, the EU has the final say.. Votes happen by normal majority or qualified majority, and there are no vetos. Only in matters where unanimity is required the UK can block certain matters, if the UK is the only one blocking the 'enhanced cooperation' provisions kick in, meaning 9+ Member States can just carry on the provisions together. In practise this can mean that 27 MSs simply carry on and leave Britain behind, so to speak.
Tl;Dr: There isn't really a veto, and whenever there is a possibility to veto, the EU treaties provide for a mechanism that basically turns your veto into an opt-out.
>>78672840
I was referring to his statement. I know you lot are going straight to Asia.
You would be stupid not to.
>>78669310
>This one will hurt you
We had an empire, fought 2 world wars and are enduring queers and SJWs. I think we'll be OK if several thousand bankers sulk and move away.
Last time fools got together to build a tower to reach heaven, God Himself came down to look at it and knocked it down and scattered people. These fools just don't seem to want to learn.
>>78672907
>Get half of territory
You can have greece, spain and portugal, maybe even south italy
Ultimately when one considers situations like Ireland and Portugal in relation to the UK, the EU is not holding the cards.
>>78672637
>If you actually read the paragraph that you are referring to you would know that that isnt true
>3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
>Implying the European Council is going to unanimously decide to extend the period
If you file article 50 procedures, you'll be out in 2 years unless the UK bends over deep for the Council.
>>78669310
Serves the TRAITORS right.
But we all know the EU is too pussywhipped by the queen.
>>78673023
Nah we'll take France, Germany, Ireland, Benelux and Scandinavia. The people who want to remain in the EU in those countries have to leave.
Don't you know how divorce works?
>>78672968
Didn't they (the UK) veto Denmarks entrance to the EU before? Haven't other EU members threatened to veto sanctions on Russia?
Juncker wants to punish the UK at all costs even if it hurts EU economies just as much as the UK.
Downright criminal.
>>78672812
It's not the same thing. But once you say you want out, that means you should be taking steps to go out asap. Not linger on and try to get better deals... Especially not when dragging the procedure out will cause instability and uncertainties for the remaining 27 Member States. Out is out.
>>78672907
>This means that as the weaker partner we get to take half of the EU's wealth and territory when we leave.
Except only retarded anglo countries have policies like that... 'Weakers' partners don't get half in continental Europe...
>>78670725
That gave me some sensible chuckles
>>78673219
>Didn't they (the UK) veto Denmarks entrance to the EU before?
Applications for EU membership are one of the few things that require unanimity and don't have an option for enhanced cooperation.. That said, there aren't a lot of applications pending the UK can veto the coming years... Turkey is the only one I can think of, and they won't be joing for a looooooong time, if ever.
>Haven't other EU members threatened to veto sanctions on Russia?
No. Because they can't... If we could, the Netherlands probably already would have because we suffer quite a bit of economical damage due to not selling dairy and agricultural products to Russia.
>>78673308
Half to the woman then? The UK identifies as female for the purpose of divorce. Give monies.
1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.
2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.
A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.
5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.
>>78670560
I'm pretty sure you know by now that the EU doesn't care if it looks good or not. They can just buy opinions these days.
>>78673290
No a line needs to be drawn. Don't sweet talk betrayal.
Sadly tho a weakened Europe only aids US world domination.
>>78669310
Nobody likes guests who first tell you to go to hell and then take forever to get the fuck out. Brits wanted out, they should get out. It has nothing to do with not giving them time, they knew they had two years once they get out.
It's simply that keeping everybody waiting until maybe some time in autumn they have a party summit prolongs the uncertainty and meanwhile prevents people from making new decisions and new deals.
>>78672364
The faggots wouldn't dare. They need us more than we need them.
RIP in pieces Germany's automobile industry.
>>78670725
This has got to be a troll. Nobody can be this stupid.
>>78673208
>How divorces work
Depends on the ressources invested to secure/steal ressources. Dont believe the (((femal))) wins divorces because tits meme.
And Britain is currently like the dependent bitchy wife who decided to file divorce because (((muahhh autonomy))), who didnt realized that she wasnt the owner of the platin CC.
And sorry, we wont be friendly and you can be happy if the union let you import sheeps and goats duty free, so your walisian and londonistan sodomist wont come over to fuck french animals.
>>78672509
>american education
they didn't quit nato you colossal faggot, eu is only a trade deal.
>>78673490
I'm sure the Italians did threaten to veto sanction renewals or some shit. Anyway just use whatever power in the EU they have to fuck with them if they fuck with the UK.
>>78673744
>>78673517
>Half to the woman then?
>He really thinks other countries do this shit
Unless you're stupid enough to marry in commonality of goods, it doesn't work like that.. John Cleese is the best and most famous example that proves your marriage laws are retarded..
Also, is it true UK judges regularly throw out pre-nups in court?
>>78670725
Why are Germans so autistic?
>>78673615
>Nobody likes guests who first tell you to go to hell and then take forever to get the fuck out. Brits wanted out, they should get out. It has nothing to do with not giving them time, they knew they had two years once they get out.
And yet, you keep loving that sandnigger cock.
>>78673790
>Why are faggitors so autistic
Fixed it for you mountain serb
>>78672670
This!!!!
>>78672364
Im not really sure why EU should act nicely to a country thats basically a leech at this point. Better getting rid of it quickly than letting it grow fatter off you.
>>78673596
You mean Chinese domination
>>78673828
That isn't true, and even then it has nothing to do with OP's posting, you mafioso.
>>78673747
The problem is that it will only make the UK seem more like that bad guy, giving more legitimacy to any sanctions and penalty the EU imposes on them... And when they finally do leave, it might make negotiating new treaties difficult..
>Hey lads, remember me? I'm that cunt that royally fucked with that Union you're a member of when I was already leaving anyway..
>Yes... Yes, the pasty untrustworthy Pommies that were in the Union acting difficult for 50 years, fighting against the treaties and trying to VETO progress
>Yes. Those very same ones, now nice that you remember! Say... Would you like to commit to a new treaty with us? Perhaps even a small scale trade union? What do you say old chap!
Yeah.. It'll be glorious for them.
>>78670725
that's what r/italy actualy believes
>>78673891
But just admit it, this sort os very present among Germans.
You're too fucking extreme about everything. Left, right, it doesn't matter.
>>78674002
They have to literally become pirates again to keep the standard of living.
>>78669310
Do the member states actually support this shit or was it something "The EU" thought up on its own?
>>78669310
> EU acts shady as fuck.
> "We're not so sure about this lads, I think we'll leave."
> They kick us in the balls, steal our wallet and run off.
>>78673955
Nah the chinks just want to was fossiles like the first world did before them. You are getting too close to the CIV cultural victory.
>>78669310
Holy fucking shit BREXIT is the gift that keeps on giving I can't fucking even right now
JUST
>>78674058
>You're too fucking extreme about everything.
Yes, sure we are. But it has its reasons, as in our culture it is better to decide cleavages/conflicts fast and with force then to carry around cancer like frogs and slavs having destabilizing conflicts for decades rather then 10 years war and 50 years peace.
>>78672364
>This whole "you're with us or against us" stance just make the EU look like a bunch of dicks.
America "You're either with us or a terrorist" has spoken. Fucking lol.
>>78673596
>weakened europe
Merkel did that when she invited fucking muds and Africans to come in by the boatload
>>78674130
They weren't even too good at that though...
>>78673023
You should definitely file for divorce and get sole custody over Hungary, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia and Northern Italy. As well as a hefty monthly payment to take care of all those kids.
>>78672435
Meanwhile the Chinese are buying Vancouver.
Biggest waste of EU resources
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4hExU-tfg
>>78670725
>everyone's an idiot
>except me
>>78674002
Except that they are one of the largest trading partners within the EU, the EU needs to trade with the UK.
And I'm only suggesting they do that only if the EU tries to fuck with them.
>>78674488
Sure but I don't see reversing that getting any easier if you break up in a dozen fragments again.
>>78669310
>Buy British goods and service
>Buy British stocks
Pax Britannica lads. Don't worry about them, just support their industry. It's up to us lads, show the EU they can not only survive but thrive without the fascist union. Support democracy. Show the world, the right-wing supports freedom after all.
>>78669310
Well it's not like the EU hasn't broken its own laws before. And did you seriously think that they'd just give you a soft landing instead of turning this into a display of power?
>>78669310
WATCH BREXIT THE MOVIE. THERE IS NO REASON TO GO BACK. THE BRITISH HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN DESTINY AND THE EU ARE LITERALLY ANOTHER CLASS OF PEOPLE.
>>78674402
Fair enough. But it didn't seem to work great, did it?
>>78669310
Sounds like the South stopping export of cotton during the Civil War.
How much until someone shoots Juncker and Merkel?
>>78669310
That is like an angry ex-girlfriend, holy shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXPM8Xe4HC0
>>78674539
>Get the old Reich back together
Not really, they are young adults now who can take care off themselves.
Not need for a custody battle, but yeah surley would be nice getting rid of the drunken bastard named EU and normalize the family bonds again.
BTW, you should get the UEBL back together, maybe even include the cheese heads, the bistum trier and the saarland.
>>78673308
>Especially not when dragging the procedure out will cause instability and uncertainties for the remaining 27 Member States
waaaaaaaaa
>>78673615
nobody likes guests who steal all teh sunbeds, hans
>>78673744
>>78673785
>>78669310
They do this, and they force UK to trade with us again. EU doesn't know what they're fucking doing. They forgot we existed, they're all about to have egg on their face.
>>78672364
its a bit more complicated then that though.
first off the UK has always been a bitch in the EU, not wanting to go along, always whining and wanting special treatment.
then there are laws and regulations (the UK helped create) about how an exit should work.
the 'cutting off completely' is merely a defence mechanism in order to make sure the process does take 2 years max.
if the EU says, ok whenever you ready, the implications for the EU can be very serious.
and the cultivation of a new relationship can only start when the exit is a signed deal. its in everyone's interest to speed this up and have as little insecurity as possible.
>>78669310
>Some fucking union.
Juncker called Brits deserters. Why is it still called a union?
>>78675112
>UEBL
Those were the times, but it'll never be the same ever since India made Steel shit...
>>78669310
>Some fucking union.
They are doing their job which is protecting the union and its member states.
You are no longer part of it. Now suffer the consequences.
>>78674958
>But it didn't seem to work great, did it?
Wot? Related to austria, we were a happy monarchie till the end of WWI with some minor class and rural/urban cleavages. After the monarchy was gone, about 6 years street fighting between socialists and conservatives and then happy member of the third Reich for 10 years before Hitler fucked up his military campaign.
And after WWII we had 50 years of peace, still resulting from the 1929 consens when we decided 19th century lefts are cancer.
Currently new cleavages have rised, but believe me, those will again result in some battle royal, maybe provoking WW III, but our society will be unified after a winner has been declared
>>78675004
Funny
you should
mention that.
>>78675626
>and its member states
By saying they want to deter any other nation from making a democratic choice if it happens to be this one?
>>78672364
>This whole "you're with us or against us" stance just make the EU look like a bunch of dicks.
This.
I thought the point of the EU was to foster cooperation and goodwill.
Not hate and war.
Swift and terrifying action is necessary at this stage to keep the Union from collapsing.
>>78669310
Fucking with Britain will fuck with Ireland. That's a good way to turn opinion against the EU in Ireland.
>>78675606
>Being the indians steel whore
Never understood how you could feed Arcelor to Mittal. Really that was like the most stupid move since ending the good relations to germany after WWI
>>78672509
>The Irish will probably start bombing shit again too.
Only if the US starts funding them again.
Looking back at history I really don't understand why we have such good relations with the US.
They are always funding terrorist organizations everywhere.
Even in europe.
>>78675872
Yeah. I'm pretty sure junkenstein is known to hold that opinion.
>>78675790
Poor battered UK.
>>78675790
Pretty much this.
>>78669310
fuck off kiwi, you're the worst of the anglos
>>78675872
>By saying they want to deter any other nation from making a democratic choice if it happens to be this one?
Exactly. It is common sense. They are making it clear to the retard plebs that out is out and life outside the largest common market is WORST than in. You want to fix things do it from the inside because from the outside you won't and will commit economical sudoku.
>>78672354
>Merkel is in charge and she has already said there will be a good deal for the UK and everybody should be calm.
Has she?
fuck the eu
>>78675886
>I thought the point of the EU was to foster cooperation and goodwill.
Tell that to the Greeks.
>>78669310
Kill the Rothschild's first. Then kill the rest of the money printers.
If you believe in economic justice, that is.
>>78676061
How can you say stuff like this
>>78676257
>Tell that to the Greeks.
>Implying to the EU isn't forcing the Greeks to cooperate and show goodwill
It's working as planned m8
have fun with the italian banking crisis
>>78669310
Nah, they know doing harm to UK's economy is bad for all of us.
Though they want to deter any inspiration caused by the Brexit, so they will encourage the dismantling of the UK. That will scare off big nations like Italy and France.
>>78669310
I'm not even slightly worried.
Germany is just showing its true colours. (Luxembourg/holland/belgium/austria/ denmark even are pretty much just german states btw - holy roman empire)
They act like they learnt their lessons from ww2 that they are oh so sorry and disgusted by themselves.
They never truly became enlightened that's why they cling to paganism and the like in Scandinavian and germanic countries, its really the roman empires fault they never conquered the germanics.
They're running scared and they're trying to use terror to claw together what remains.
When France leaves its over.
If France doesn't leave it will be a slow death with the EU propping up Italy for as long as possible, and then when Italy falls the euro gets Zimbabwe'd.
Germany had hoped that with Britain the eu would be able to avoid this guaranteed future.
Life is painful full of ups and downs, sure we wont go straight to the skies with this move but we will fare far better than the germanlets.
>>78671628
Haha yeah what kind if asshole union would punish people who want to leave!....o wait
>>78669310
the EU is going to go against it's own charter to fuck the UK over and other nations wanting out
pretty sure UK got two years to sort shit out.
fuck Merkel, fuck Tusk, fuck Schultz that jew, fuck the damp rag known as Van Rompuy.
they can't keep getting away with it
>>78669310
EU can try to give us bad trade deals and laugh when German export markets shrink massively, whilst the Chinese / Koreans / Yanks / etc all jump in at a chance to sell to us.
>>78676023
we don't have a good relationship with the US.
all they have is interests and all/most nations know their promises and deals mean nothing when their interest changes.
the only reason we are friendly with the US is due to economic reasons.
even diplomats are weary around American diplomats because they got screwed over too many times now.
and the reason they fund terrorist organisations is simple, they want to have leverage or potential future leverage.
>>78676164
yes, she stated that a rushed exit is not needed.
But what that actually means is anyone's guess. I reckon Mutti is just trying to get a less stressful situation and less panic.
>>78672364
>but it seems like they're saying, "Okay, you wanna leave? Fine. We'll cut you off completely. You'll never work in this town again!" *slams door*
This. They're fucking angry. They want to fuck our shit up.
They want to fuck our trade deals to get revenge. If the EU were honest and friendly they would work with us to avoid the negative impact on the EU.
They want to hurt us as a punishment. They want to scare the shit out of France and other Eurosceptics.
>>78669310
EU throwing a hissy fit that we don't like being part of a corrupt pile of shit organisation?
FUCK THEM.
UK is fifth largest economy in the world and we have the strongest military in Europe.
We don't give a shit. The UK economy is the fastest growing in Europe, and we don't want some foreign cunts making our laws and telling us how to live.
FUCK THE EU.
>>78669310
>EU working to remove UK as fast as possible
So that means by the year 2050, if all negotiations and bureaucracy goes swimmingly.
>>78676550
Ever wonder why they call us the eternal Anglos?
We are thieving villainous conniving disloyal fuckers and you learnt this from the best.
>no long have to prop up shit hole EU countries downfalls
>trade OPENED to Russia
>trade OPENED more to China
>EU markets loss double the % of FTSE
Good times ahead
>>78676061
>>78676304
These people think they are the "saviors" of Europe. They think this union is what keeps the peace. They think that without it, there will be more war between the European powers. That's also why they want to import millions of savages and destroy ethnic nationalism in Europe. At least, that's what they've said to justify their actions to themselves.
>>78676511
most of these countries have laws in place that prevent such referendum to take place. only when a government wants it to happen.
no current government is going to do that.
and by the time reight-wing parties come to power we have all seen the decline of the England (formerly knows as UK) and people are scared shitless of the implications and will vote remain.
simple as that. the UK will be the perfect example.
>>78673953
UK still pays up, it ain't a leach.
>>78673726
>eu is only a trade deal.
Hahaha, if that was it then we would have stayed
>>78676511
Italy's a net contributor at this point, no?
>>78676965
Ha!
>>78677267
Yes France UK Germany and Italy were basically the only net contributors to the EU.
Italy baffles me because its economy is hardly in a good way and has ridiculous unemployment, so how much longer that will last..
>>78669310
Economic warfare is a recognized form of aggression. Since the EU is firing the first shot, and if it dramatically affects Great Britain, they do have war as an option for national defense.
The e-jew better watch it's step.
They're not dealing with a turd-world Eurostate, but a First-world nuclear power that is a hub of economic action in the world.
Britain really needs a sword wielding king right now, and not some 90-something granny.
>>78677636
literally on the verge of banking crisis there right now.
Anything that impacts trade badly effects Ireland since any rules applying to UK relationship with f.e. Greece or Poland, apply to nations like Ireland and Portugal who are more intimately linked.
German business + Ireland (etc) > salty bureaucrats
Life goes on, the City of London will downsize, whereas the "real economy" and farming will slowly increase
>>78675685
>cleavages
>>78673726
>eu is only a trade deal.
was*
>>78677697
UK should get in bed with Russia as a big fuck you to the EU
>>78675685
>cleavages
>Openly saying this is to deter other nations from leaving.
Doesn't really make sense. Britain is already leaving, that genie is out of the bottle so it can't possibly make other countries stop thinking about leaving the EU also.
>not giving them proper time to create deals with member states and the EU its self
Britain has all the time in the world to make trade agreements.
>>78670452
the wheels of government move really fuckingslow
unless they want to cut funding to the space program
they got that shit done with real fast
>>78678056
Implying russia actually wants to trade with uk
>>78670916
They're terrified.
They saw how badly European markets suffered compared to the FTSE which barely registered Brexit. They know there will be more bailouts and the U.K. Won't pay which will trigger other countries to leave.
They also want to give the UK as little chance as possible to negotiate new trade deals so that it appears like they made the wrong decision.
They know the longer the UK drags this out, the better it is for the Brits and the worse it is for the EU.
If I were the UK I would make this divorce as painful as possible for the Germans.
>>78673208
Did we get a waitrose out of it?
>>78669310
Nah its just another fear tacit from the EU. Britain has chosen freedom over fear and that is what counts!
>>78678284
>Doesn't really make sense. Britain is already leaving, that genie is out of the bottle so it can't possibly make other countries stop thinking about leaving the EU also.
UK will be a harsh example of what happens when you opt to leave.
how will that not be effective?
and they don't have all the time for new trade deals, their people/companies/conglomerations are aicking to know what's going on and react accordingly to try and make money again, hire new people, etc.
the longer this takes, the more it hurts them.
Leave side promised supporters both a thriving economy and control over immigration. But Britons cannot have that outcome just by voting for it. If they want access to the EU’s single market and to enjoy the wealth it brings, they will have to accept free movement of people. If Britain rejects free movement, it will have to pay the price of being excluded from the single market. The country must pick between curbing migration and maximising wealth.
Europoor population 500+ millions GDP fuckall per capita, as Donald would say, It's a mess, the EU is a mess.
>>78679212
>the longer this takes, the more it hurts them.
so they should drag it out to "punish" us then :^)
>>78679446
if it was a matter of retaliation then yes. but I don't think it's about that.
the EU knows it needs to reform, become more simple and effective. but that wont happen if countries follow the UK. so its self-defence more then anything else.
and the punishing part is already done btw. self-inflicted.
>>78669533
It's not about staying it's about making the process smooth so that it deters any damage.
If they do this, we may get out horribly, but you will all get out worse.
>>78679242
I think there are about 5 or 6 different constructions though, not just two.
plus whatever they come up with in mutual benefit. I wont be surprised the EU would be taking this opportunity to change some of its ways.
>>78669310
fuck em. let that island go down in flames.
>>78679642
>EU knows it needs to reform
There is no mechanism by which it can reform lol.It would have to completely disband by breaking every last one of the treaties.
>>78671628
>They literally seek to punish Great Britain
Great Britain is no longer part of the EU so the EU is not obligated to look out for GBs interests.On the other hand they are obligated to protect the interests of all other EU members.
Great Britain will not be punished.They will simply be treated as any other country outside of the EU.Now to some this may seem like punishment bet no one forced the brits to leave in the first place.
Since they don't want to be part of the EU:
EU firms will pull out their branches.
Direct EU funding will be pulled out.
-infrastructure
-education
-research
GB will have no vote in any future EU laws.
If they want to trade with EU member countries they will have to obey EU laws.
All trade agreements will be made anew and this time with no special treatment to GB.
Since there will be a massive drain of EU investments it is quite possible for other economic entities to try and move on UK territory or to abandon it altogether.
A lot of investors will be really cautious when investing in the UK in those coming years.
The British population is already facing a split in ideology.
The British that are living here say that they are never going back
.
http://www.vesti.bg/temi-v-razvitie/tema-brekzit/britancite-ot-popovsko-selo-za-napuskaneto-na-es-6055482
kek
>>78679983
the processes in which decisions are being made can be reformed.
and this is one of the main things that make the EU so unbearable, and they know it as well.
wont be easy, but it will be done or its euxit all together.
>>78673744
>>78673785
>butthurt slav that can't be a plumber here anymore
>>78674842
It fragments the problem.
Compartmentalizing the impositions of the EU.
If the UK gets completely "multiculted" but Poland etc doesn't then thats a good thing.
>>78669310
>a union that actively needs to intimidate 90% of its members into staying
I do hope this backfires and shows the normies how fucking cancerous the EU has become, but knowing how reality works, it's unlikely.
I do wish you the best though, bongs.
>>78669310
It's never been a union - it's a fucking racket, a mob.
They promise you protection, they promise you more business, but as soon as you join they start extorting you, they take your money, they force you to do shit for them, and if you try to leave they break your legs and burn your store down to set an example to anyone else who might try to leave the racket.
England will survive this. The UK will survive this. Europe will survive this.
>>78669310
We've got two years after article 50 is invoked.
>>78680150
It's amazing how short your euro memories are, the British were the ones making lines in the sky with their merlin engines while you all were pulling your donkey drawn carts out of the way of the panzers.
The British never needed the fucking EU, you did and you went full retard with it.
>>78680509
hello educated American, how are you today?
>>78676700
I guess no geert in the future.
>and the reason they fund terrorist organisations is simple
Because our nation was founded by one.
>>78680616
>The British never needed the fucking EU
Thats is why they had to beg to get in twice since they were refused the first time.
kek
>>78676164
The hate she gets in Britain is laughable.
>>78680179
>the processes in which decisions are being made can be reformed.
It can't though, it's all hardcoded in the treaties.
>>78678056
We don't climb into beds, we make them.
The Anglo-sphere relationships are very strong, furthermore America is very much on our side.
This whole thing was the US + Anglosphere putting the reins on Germany and Germanic Europe.
>>78680934
And yet they somehow managed to keep their monetary sovereignty and rule of law.
>>78681146
This. EU was very much a German project and between Schengen and those absolutely ridiculous internet hate speech laws, anything is better than being a part of the EU
>>78680150
The fact that they admit they don't care about us already should tell you something. They don't care about you either.
They care about the project. Nothing else matters. You should be afraid.
>>78680616
Then how come the EU had to build business parks and industrial estates across a lot of the UK, because our own government and their banker donors wouldn't put the capital up to do so?
Oh yeah, we're getting a zillion gorillion NigelBux back per day from the EU to be put into Britain. Because the UK government, and a tory one at that now under the thrall of free market idealogues and meme careerists, is well known for redistributing wealth outside of the financial district and the leafy gated suburbs they live in.
Maybe we didn't NEED the EU, but they sure fucking helped a lot of people when our own government was too busy quaffing champagne and selling off our stuff.
>>78669310
So they're trying to make a public execution of the deserter so it serves as an example to others?
Wew lad, this is like medieval times.
>>78672670
That's exactly what I want
>>78680934
We was veto'd primarily by the french that did so because they knew that if we got into it we'd work to fuck it up.
How many times am I going to have too link this.
This is from a BBC program from 1983
33 years later....
>>78680912
Geert will never come to power.
>>78681806
If he did it wouldn't matter.
Some leftist scared for the immigrants would likely shoot him in the head.
Thanks for Hirsi.
>>78682088
but his party would remain in power.
any time, how is she doing btw?
>>78681777
And we should have kept vetoing you. We were right like always.
>>78676889
typicall bullies
>>78669533
Battered wife syndrome: the post.
>>78676911
>UK is fifth largest economy
*Sixth
kek
>>78679242
>they will have to accept free movement of people
why do you need free movement of people to trade?
do I have the right to go and stay in a shopkeepers home just by buying a packet of biscuits? and he in mine?
I don't get it
>>78670725
Feels good knowing that I'll probably get to hang this guy and his ilk in a few years.
>>78680150
is it true that the EU has never had its books signed of by their auditors? how corrupt must you be to fail audits every year for 17 years?
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>>78682448
>nation of shopkeepers
>>78681003
the lack of hate she receives for importing a gorillion rapefugees to live off the taxpayer whilst converting the country to islam is laughable
>>78670725
That kid has watched wayyy too much anime
>>78669310
who cares what fuck face has to say it is up to the UK to declare article 50 not unelected Juncker.
If they want the UK gone then they can vote to kick them out.
>>78682791
well, they'll have to go
>>78682448
its a condition of this trade deal. doesn't have to be logical (although it actually is)
and mind you, a condition created by the UK as well.
>>78682799
None our business m8. She's always been decent to us and we should bear that in mind.
If the Germans have a problem with refugees they can deal with her themselves.
>>78672670
We did but america didn't see the light in the preferential trade agreement.
Free market trading means that our governments cant really direct how the people trade with foreign nations which is why china with its utter lack of regard for human life is able to dominate the export market.
Its also why nations that don't drive its people like slaves can only export raw resources.
The preferential trade deal would have stopped this but America was always the greedy second born expecting a smaller inheritance and decided too try and make a name for itself.
>>78682978
MIDF pls go
merkel is a monster, she used to work for the STASI in Eastern Europe, you know the thought police?
she forced facebook and youtube etc to censor and report anti-immigrant facts and opinions
and every singler rape, assault, robbery and other crime commited by the leech rapefugees is her responsibility
>>78682911
>its a condition of this trade deal. doesn't have to be logical (although it actually is)
not really an answer to my question, try again
>>78679212
>UK will be a harsh example of what happens when you opt to leave
Not really. The UK will be fine and it's not like the EU can fuck their shit up anymore. The EU can only effectively control trade between member nations. Uk is out now and those nations and the UK can negotiate agreements on their own. The US and other non EU countries have trade agreements with EU countries and the EU has fuck all to say about it.
>>78673955
He means Anglo domination.
>>78676889
>They want to fuck our trade deals to get revenge
Dude, you gave up those trade deals the moment you guys voted to leave
>>78683361
>not really an answer to my question, try again
ok. the free movement design was to ensure the EU actually worked as it was intended.
a free market and its people freely roaming (including commuters, traffic, tourists, etc) was an essential part of this all. kinda a big economic deal desu.
>>78683361
But it does
Freedom of movement is crucial to the single market of EU
This is the EU in a nutshell.
Jean-Claude Juncker is salty as fuck.
http://youtu.be/KEJx3nI1u3Y?t=360
The whole point is that you can only break the EU from within, like Gorbachev dissolved the Soviet union from within.
The EU know this and are evicting anti-EU Britain ASAP before the euroskepticism spreads.
This is why they want to get rid of Britain NOW. They want to SHUTITDOWN.
>>78683912
So basically no European countries are allowed to do deals without the EU's blessing. That pretty much sums up why the EU has to go.
>>78683537
>The UK will be fine
nice guessing against the odds.
>>78682182
Not likely for long anyway.
Similarly much the same as anywhere else in the west. Our leftists just try not to acknowledge her existence.
EUkeks want to set the example for other members.
>leaving us us terrible, just look at the UK they are doing horrible right now
All off Brussels should be arrested for treason against the humankind.
>>78684116
>the free movement design was to ensure the EU actually worked as it was intended
this doesn't mean anything
my question was about WHY it is necessary to have free movement in order to trade?
>>78684221
no. UK exits. deals are gone automatically and new deals have to be made.
and this can be done in different ways. so far it looks like each individual EU country will make its own deals with the UK instead of having one EU deal treaty with the UK.
But the first thing that needs to be done is make the brexit happen. only then new trade deals can be made, not before.
>>78669310
>Worried about brits
>Forget that US (If trump wins) and Russia are more than ready to trade and work with Britannia
wew
>>78684221
That's not what I said. But you gave up the trade deal with the EU countries, and now you'll have to reado the treaties for every country separately, and you can't do that until you're out.
>>78684123
try again
why is free movement necessary for trade?
>>78684182
>before the euroskepticism spreads
it's too late, it's already spread, polls show almost half want out
>European court of humans rights
Let's just fuck Britains shit up.
>>78684239
Guessing? Nah. I can only assume you are so young that you have never lived in a world without the EU.
>>78684680
>so far it looks like each individual EU country will make its own deals with the UK instead of having one EU deal treaty with the UK.
that's not allowed under eu rules
>>78684721
>you'll have to reado the treaties for every country separately
"hey it's the UK, do you want to sell us stuff for money?"
"yeah, sounds good, cya"
"cya"
>>78672605
Nobody cares about the WTO, nigga.
>>78684221
Trade deals are negotiated by the EU.
The common market would break if every country cooked up their own deals.
Not to mention most european countries would have no bargaining power.
This is a good thing.
>>78684601
because its all part of the economics.
if you want to ship your good to France, your truck drivers can do this without any problem or additional funding.
if you want to be a drunk tourist in Amsterdam you can do this without paying extra or buying a visa or passport.
if you want to work in Germany for a few years, you can get a house, insurance, get paid, etc.
if you want to study in Belgium literally no effort will be made to stop you.
if you live in Holland but work in Paris you can commute freely without an hassle.
the list is literally endless and part of the economic package in the EU.
we might agree or not, or think its not logical but that doesn't matter, 'they' designed it like this. its nothing more then a construction.
>>78669310
We can hold this over them like a sword of Damocles above their heads.
They know that the longer we take before invoking article 50, the more likely other countries will leave the EU.
The smart thing to do is to negotiate a trade deal with the EU, give them nothing and whenever they refuse our demands just make the article 50 request a month later.
Juncker will do ANYTHING to stop his project from collapsing, blackmail the fuck out of the EU with this, they can't force us to start article 50 so this is our time to get the deal we want with no concessions.
Question -
Why would the UK get a better trade deal with any of these countries if that would hurt their trade with the EU?
US, China, Russia... All of their economies heavily rely on trade with the EU. Why would they risk their relationship with the EU?
We're all gone in 200 years due to global warming. That's what should be up to debate.
>>78682801
What does that even mean? I watch too much anime and think he's a fucking retard.
>>78685608
Because we won't have the same tariffs
I will happily eat American MSG and corn syrup for the rest of my life if it means freedom. Hell I would happily have a Chinese escalator installed in my house in the name of freedom even if it ended up killing me
>>78685831
There's nothing to debate. It's impossible to reverse global warming without murdering 90% of the population.
>>78684948
>that's not allowed under eu rules
see >>78685166
If UK had a free trade agreement with France but not with Italy, then UK products would manage to reach Italy without having to pay tolls.
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>>78685229
>we might agree or not
apparantly we don't
why should criminals be allowed free movement? so they can prey in richer countries and bring down the victimization rates in the poor countries?
>>78685924
Well, 99.99% needs to go to be sure.
