>both EU and UK will lose on the long term in terms of economy.
>UK will still import Arab monkeys.
Why is Brexit good? I lost some money because of Brexit (got a small proportion of business in the UK), but I don't care about that.
If you think that UK will now start deporting Muzzie shitskins and that nationalism will rise, you are wrong. They will continue importing shitskins and the Islamic Caliphate is the future of the UK.
The EU is an outside governing force who has the ability to over turn British law and sovereignty. In the past few years they have been increasing their political and policy reach to force compliance of their regulations.
A country has the right to governor itself as a sovereign state and reject/fight against the attempted rule.take-over of outside forces.
Will it be better or worse for the economy? I don't know. That isnt the main issue. Independence, democracy and self-determination are the issues.
TL;DR Why should any country be forced to do something they don't want to because some outside group said so?
>>78667708
is /pol/ a fucking complaint board or something
go back to rebbit or whatever
>>78668301
>Australia
>auto-ignore
>>78667708
Take back control. Remove Eastern Europeans.
>>78669067
And replace them with...?
YOU'RE GONNA PAY FOR THIS
>>78669157
Young British scrounges
REMOVE BENEFIT
Points based system my nigger
>>78667708
>both EU and UK will lose on the long term in terms of economy.
k
>tfw my brother just put down a mortgage on a 1million+ house in london
starting to feel a bit guilty desu lads.. someone reassure me D:
>>78669264
That would be cool. You will be the first ones to succeed at this then. Eastern Europeans have those jobs for a reason. No one wants to take those positions, or they are more efficient at it.
>>78667708
It's good because economically, capitalism trumps socialism.
That simple really.
The socialists are not financially savvy, they'll take on more costs (rapefugees) then the resources they actually have to provide (Jobs, cash, housing, etc).
They'll cover the expenses exploiting their hard working nationalists and propping up taxed hundreds of % points up.
Basically, it's a long con. We won't see returns on this right away, and it will be rocky for the next couple years, however, it will ensure that we do not crash when they crash. We got off the sinking ship.
>>78667708
Why are white youth in the image? The people who voted Remain were useless Kilt-wearing Scottish faggots who vote things just to spite England, and immigrants.
Scotland is literally a malignant cancer that tries to destroy England. The Scottish need to fuck off honestly. Maybe split their country from ours and float them off to another part of the world.
>>78669157
>When you put out a fire, what do you replace it with?
>>78669563
>house
>in london
he deserves everything he gets
>>78667708
>UK will still import Arab monkeys.
All five arabs in the country would disagree
>>78669563
It was his own fault for making a huge financial decision in such uncertain times. Also, it was definitely a stupid decision since London is already overrun with shitskins. It's only a matter of time until they spill over into the "rich areas" since they're ripe targets for looting and such.
They unironically thought the EU made them import the Commonwealth Paki's lmao
>>78667708
I've lost 18k in shares over the space of one day.
Still voted leave and if by some "miracle" we do have this second referendum, i'll vote leave again.
>>78667708
>Why is Brexit good?
Bro have you seen to torrent of liberal tears and salt. It would be worth it for that alone.
>>78670215
Its your own fault for having stocks at such a critical moment in the market you fucking idiot
>>78667708
To keep stinking 3rd world Slovenians out.
>>78667708
>Why is Brexit "good"?
because of how it made Leave voters feel. that's really what was happening in the referendum, not a analysis of the pros and cons.
>>78669157
Indians, they are higher skilled computer scientists. British chavs can pick cauliflowers on zero hours contracts.
>>78669654
God forbid that the consumer economy every took a savage blow.
"We have to import immigrants to work them cheap at jobs that no one wants to do."
Why should society get either Blacked or Eastern Europed just because some business man wants to make oodles of money?
Consumerism taking a hard blow is not the end of the world, unless you are an Elitist.
>>78667708
The goal was to unite the patriots and it worked.
>>78669563
>a 1million+ house in london
so a shed?
>>78670215
I had hedged my UK / European stocks with Volatility futures and gold etfs last month.
Saved because of that. Also hold ~ 30% of my 90K Euro portfolio in cash, so will deploy part of that next week to buy oversold names.
>>78667708
>only 25% of youth voted.
>65% of working class voted to exit.
>Hurr durr dem old white folks!
And now the progressives are saying how one man one vote democracy is flawed.
If your not happy feel free to fuck off. If you don't live in the UK mind your own fucking business
>>78670159
>>78670048
housing market bro here: up to now at least, London has been one of the best places to make a real estate investment in the world.
>>78669563
>buying a 3 bed terrace for £1million pounds just because its in london
Fucking deserves it mate.
>>78670177
THIS 100%. I voted leave, but I did it not based on immigration. You idiots who voted leave on mudslimes are fucking thick, we will get more mudslimes haha
>>78670600
> Past performance is no guarantee of future returns.
Did he buy in Zone 1 or the outskirts ?
>>UK will still import Arab monkeys.
They have the opportunity not to though. If they remained in the EU they would have no choice but to do so.
>>78670488
Its not your small time business man, its multinationals. You might not like it edgelord, but corporations run this world and have done since WW2 ended.
>UK left EU
>not kicking out any immigrants
>import more shitskins
>only thing happening is 70% VAT export and import tax for UK
>economy gone to shit
>Romania gets more euros from Germany
>>78670418
> Indians
> Scientists
They are code monkeys who don't Poo in Loo
>>78667708
Brexit is good because it means we are now an independent self governing nation. It means we can, if we so choose, trade with the world, not just this one corner of it.
It will probably be so that the EU will cut off their nose to spite their face in order to punish us for going against their will, but in the long run that will only hurt them rather than us.
If leaving this club means a Mafia style knee-capping, then it will only propel others to leave.
Their hubris will be their downfall.
>>78670751
Mate, I hate to break this to you... Arabia isn't in the EU
There's already a new law stating if you're from outside Europe you need to earn at least £35,000 a year to stay here.
>>78670418
>Indians, they are higher skilled computer scientists
Indian intellectuals, just as common as Irish intellectuals
>>78670751
the Leave campaign have already confirmed that Immigration will continue. it's fucking hilarious.
>>78670844
Totally avoids mentioning mudslime Immigration which won the vote for leave thanks to the working class. Nice one Anon
>>78670751
There is a huge shortage of Pakistani chefs in the growing industry of curry houses
>>78670844
nothing was stopping us trading with the rest of the world before. it was actually just more profitable to trade with Europe because, you know, closer?
also I notice you're already rationalizing that anything bad will be Europe's fault.
It's about the war you fucking idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahdEqLweJhM
>>78671034
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/22/curry-restaurants-crisis-immigration-rules-chefs
>>78667708
>>78670919
But there is more of them than there are of us.
>>78671085
>nothing was stopping us trading with the rest of the world before
The EU was. We did not have the ability to make our own trade deals. That was the sole competence of the EU.
>>78667708
One dense motherfucker.
UK lead the first step. Others will follow. EU will break apart. The entire System will tear itself apart.
Happening
Revolution
Great Purge
>>78670956
Border control is indeed another thing that being an independent self governing nation affords us, yes.
>>78671334
Only because of their obscene population
The new conservative regime have already declared whatever new deal is made there'll be no stopping of free movement of labour. Gotta keep their voters and donors happy with tons of cheap labour they can hire and fire on a whim and pay pennies.
>B-B-BUT ITS ABOUT SOVRINTEE! MUH BRITISH LEADERS! MUH BORDERS! IMMIGRAAAAAAANTS!
>>78671268
>Implying anyone will listen to your fringe social views
Leaving the EU doesn't mean the whole country becomes redpilled
>>78671339
You have shitloads of trade deals though
>>78671410
Yeah good luck controlling the Calais jungle since the french have already said it is now our problem.
>>78671339
a trade deal without some conditions and protectionism would probably be bad for the UK.
Like chinese dump your local industry or wall street taking over your financial sector.
EU wants you to accept their regulations without the UK beeing able to influence them at all now.
Dont think you will get any good deals.
>>78671552
He's talking out of his arse. The leave side have been lied to by their leaders, so now they're lying to everyone else to save face.
>Months and months to read up on brexit
>Over 1000 britpol threads
>Ignored it all
>Now needs hand held through it
How about just respect our right to vote for our own country and worry about your own country.
National pride is nothing to be afraid of kid.
>Fucking summer
>>78671527
People on /pol/ never did live in the real world on this shit. To make it simply as fuck, we basically just traded cheap polish workers for cheap mudslimes
>>78670952
Well at least now citizens can vote on the policy at the next election, rather than have no sovereign right to decide for themselves because the unelected EU parliament decreed it so. That's the whole point, not racism or whatever, it's about self-determination.
The UK has made the correct choice, considering in hindsight all the butthurt hate of white people and democracy currently flooding the internet.
>>78671541
Never suggested they were, just that I was disagreeing fundamentally with OP's premise.
>>78671034
>shortage of curry houses
>UK
Have you ever been there man? You can get a good curry more easily than you can get a piece of fruit.
>>78671729
National pride has caused so much shit, fuck nationalism. Its for the thick and insecure
>>78671730
People on reddit are gay traitor-faggots who live in their wannabe USSR-world.
Fuck off to Reddit, you moronic miscarriage.
>>78671750
Haha, seriously dude. Read up on the free movement in EU policy, then read up what Norway do to apply to it. Fucking edgelord Australians, we can't do shit
>>78671650
Thats alright, more will die from jumping in front of trains
10 years ago subway the jared fogle i fondle my dick to little kiddy pics sandwiches never even existed in europe. now it's spreading like cancer. the only american fast food chains were mcdonalds burger king kfc and maybe a rare dunkin donuts.. now even wendys is in europe?
eu has done nothing try to turn europe into another degenerate society like america. the way german tv went from informative to complete cucked american shit is more evidence of that
>>78671894
Get back to sucking Hungary off. We had a commonwealth, so therefor the Leave camp want to get cheap Labour from there instead. AKA more indianslims and mudslimes
>>78671835
Fuck off from UK then if you have no pride in your country. Go live in Somalia. #noborders right faggot?
>>78671552
Not really. The Swiss have more trade deals outside of the EU than We do within it.
The Eu, and by extension we, do not have an trade deal with you for example. They are attempting to get one with Canada (so far badly), and the Canadians have stated that their trade deal with us will take precidence over the EU one, currently in deadlock. We will also be free to pursue one with you lot.
Blood seems to be thicker than water hmmm?
>>78671691
Yeah ive gathered there is a shit ton of ignorance, on both sides frankly
>>78671552
are you joking?
>>78670810
The UK gives more money than it receives from the EU. You guys are going to get less Germany money, not more.
>>78669563
>1million+ house in london
1 bedroom closet?
>>78667708
>both EU and UK will lose on the long terms of the economy
In 10 years time, the EU won't exist. Screen-cap this.
>UK will still import Arab monkeys
This could possibly happen, yes. However, outside the EU, we still have the option not to.
>saged
>>78671650
That's an empty threat. Doing so is effectively a declaration of war. Something the French might threaten, but never follow through on.
>>78667708
Think of it this way, all of the economic problems the Brexit will cause, staying in the EU will cause over a longer term and will only grow worse if staying in. The only benefits to staying in the EU are minor economic ones, which are questionable while the EU continues to be a sinking ship. Leaving the EU has benefits of increased liberty, not being under a government which is ruled by unelected committee.
>>78671835
>>78672054
>National pride has caused so much shit, fuck nationalism. Its for the thick and insecure
>some other shit not worth of reading
Fasten your seatbelt and prepare for this ride to crash like nothing has ever before.
Your Marxist utopia is falling apart before your very eyes. We are fucking your disgusting world order up - one way or the other.
Brittain was only the start faggot. Go suck some commie cock while you still can, dumbfuck.
Soon...mark my words.
>>78672065
Nationalism and pride in your country are two different things you smelly edgelord.
>>78671687
>Dont think you will get any good deals.
If nothing else we will get a good one with you. We hold the buying power. Even if your politician try and act tough, you will have Audi and Mercedes kicking down doors if they can't sell us their cars.
>>78671687
>Dont think you will get any good deals.
Germany has more to lose than us considering the potential of the euro to tank after this
>>78672311
>a fish and a herring are two different things, a herp durr derp
>>78671826
I've been to Wales
>>78672284
Ok so let me get this straight, you are calling me a commie marxist when I'm moaning about mudslimes. You would seriously be swamped by mudslimes than polish?. I think you don't know what the fuck you believe in
Fucking hell Austria
>>78672256
55% boost to european trade isnt minor
my vagina is so sore after being pounded by all these people on their way out of england
>>78672492
The Brexit has no bearing on that.
It's allowing you to make up your own immigration policies instead of capitulating to Merkel's batshit bullshit.
If your leaders decide to import mudturds, that's on them. At least now you have your own hands on the wheel.
>>78672337
meh... you overestimate the UK market.
Im pretty sure alot of british people want to buy german cars and would be unhappy if they had to pay alot more for their goods.
Norway for example is paying billions for the access to the EU market and still has to accept all the EU laws.
>>78672715
Dude, as an American you prob wont understand this. Immigration (Mostly about mudslimes) won the leave vote, I would bet at least 70% of the vote to leave was based on Immigration. The thick working class couldn't give a fuck about sovereignty
>staying in the pay denbts economic union
>better for economic stability
This is what the merchants actually want you to believe.
>>78667708
>Why is Brexit good?
(1) CAP and CFP have devastated British communities while tripling the price of food.
(2) Britain is a massive net contributor to the EU while getting the least EU spending in return.
(3) TARIC has led to a massive rise in the price of imports from outside the EU which, since the UK does 57% of its trade outside the EU, is very bad for us.
(4) The EU's global share of GDP is collapsing, from 36% in 1973 when we joined to 13% today; the EU is, in fact, the only trading bloc whose market is shrinking and has the lowest the rate of growth of any continent except Antarctica.
(5) Every economy in the EU except Germany is in full-on recession and cannot afford to buy the goods we produce.
(6) Since 2009 Britain has created more jobs in its economy than the other 27 EU nations combined. Think about that for a minute.
(7) Britain's booming economy is attracting massive numbers of immigrants from Eastern Europe who have effectively doubled our crime rate overnight as well as placing unsustainable strain on schools, hospitals and public services.
(8) We cannot retain our sovereignty and tradition of democratic rule in a political union that routinely ignores the rule of law and is treated by Germany as an extension of the German state.
(9) The EU is, by any objective standard, collapsing. There is no logic in remaining part of a union that is being torn apart by its own contradictions.
(10) Switzerland and Norway seem to be doing awfully well outside the EU.
(11) The Treaty of Lisbon guarantees that if we leave, we still get full access to the single market for goods but without requiring us to let EU citizens move freely in our country.
(12) The EU is not a single market; it is a customs union. That means that, although we import massively from outside the EU, we must tax those imports at a rate that suits the other EU members. This increases the cost of goods in the UK by between 30% and 70% on average.
>>78672492
>no idea about how EU works
>no idea what bilateral accords are
>what is switzerland?
Dense. Fucking dense.
>hate nationalism
>hate multucuturalism
>hate muslis
>something something patriotism
Are you still in transition because you're new around here, boy?
>b--but what about the poles
BTW the EU-citizens will get to stay in Brittain.
>>78667708
Turkey is joining the EU. That's why.
Muslims are already taking over these great lands, imagine if they had free movement to just fucking come here at will from crazyland where they still believe in some fairytale entity?
>>78667708
fixed your image to fit the narrative
>>78672835
>still has to accept all the EU laws.
It doesn't.
Between 2000-2015 there were 52,183 legal instruments issued by the EU. Norway adopted just 9% of these. To imply that they have to do what the EU says without any say, is simply not true.
Switzerland adopted 0% and without full access to the single market export 5 times more per capita than the UK.
Source: EFTA Secretariat
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/homepage.html
>>78672996
You have source for points 6 and 11 ?
>>78673117
Lol no it isnt. I seriously hope you didnt think all the leave propaganda was true did you?
>>78672492
>You would seriously be swamped by mudslimes than polish?
???
Every nation outside the EU has the choice on that. Every nation IN the EU is forced to take mudslimes.
You counter-signalling faggot
>>78667708
Because we don't want to assimilate into the United States of Europe or become the nanny of European countries that can't stand on their own two feet
>>78673077
Coming from Austria, I highly doubt you deal with many working class from the UK, so I'll explain. Immigration won the Leave vote. Plain and Simple.
>>78672835
>Krauts shilling for the EU
It's over Hanz, pack it up m8 it's 3 nil
>>78672844
It's directly about sovereignty. While you may look down your nose at your countrymen, they can see that there is a flood of immigrants and they had no say in the matter at all. Nobody asked them, and that's what really rankles.
There has been a powerful anti-democratic, anti-white agenda at play and as seen in the butthurt threads here, people aren't shy to talk shit about whites or have any respect for their democratic desires. Ignoring the fact that there are also millions of integrated migrants in the UK who probably voted for the brexit.
>>78668238
The EU protects us from your gmo and chloride products.
>>78673252
Mate, the difference is shit countries like Poland, Romania etc don't have a commonwealth they want to abuse for cheap labour. Our commonwealth so happens to contain a shit ton of mudslimes
>>78672844
Most people did vote against the symptom instead of the cause, but the end result would've been the same if sovereignty would've been the major issue.
>>78672844
>The thick working class couldn't give a fuck about sovereignty
How could you possibly believe that? There is no other reason to vote leave. It's literally voting whether or not you want UK to be sovereign over its own affairs. Clearly, if they voted Leave to keep out mudshits, they have faith in British officials to enact laws restricting further mudtrash immigration. Whether that faith is misplaced or not, well, we'll see. But at least it's their own government and not Merkel, which is entirely the point.
>>78669563
This is easy. Buying property in london is literally buying into an orgy of greed and speculation. It's buying property widely considered to be a high risk investment.
If you indeed voted against your families interests because of memes though you are indeed fucktarded.
>>78673336
I'm not disagreeing with you mate. What I'm saying is, Immigration won it for Leave. Leave have already said, they will target the commonwealth. Our commonwealth has a ton of mudslime countries. Big companies will always get there wish of cheap labour.
>>78673231
So they aren't? Oh well, the danger is that even if they aren't joining now, a country like that could join at any point in the future. And we would be stuck with them, with no way out.
Beside this, the EU can make up any laws it wants to cuck itself with and we have to abide. The EU is becoming more and more cuck, it'd only be a matter of time until laws are introduced to jail "bigots" and enforce a mandatory "give free money to immigrants" day.
>>78673155
>The EEA agreement grants Norway access to the EU's internal market. From the 23,000 EU laws currently in force,[2] the EEA has incorporated around 5,000 (in force)[3] meaning that Norway is subject to roughly 21% of EU laws. According to Norway's Foreign Affairs (NOU 2012:2 p. 790, 795), from the legislative acts implemented from 1994 to 2010, 70% of EU directives and 17% of EU regulations in force in the EU in 2008 were in force in Norway in 2010.[4] Overall, this means that about 28% of EU legislation in force of these two types in 2008 were in force in Norway in 2010. While the Norwegian parliament has to approve all new legislation which has "significant new obligations", this has been widely supported and usually uncontested; between 1992 and 2011, 92% of EU laws were approved unanimously, and most of the rest by a broad majority.
> From the perspective of the EU, the treaties largely contain the same content as the EEA treaties, making Switzerland a virtual member of the EEA. Most EU law applies universally throughout the EU, the EEA and Switzerland, providing most of the conditions of the free movement of people, goods, services and capital that apply to full member states. Switzerland pays into the EU budget and extended the bilateral treaties to the new EU member states, just like full members did, although each extension requires the approval of Swiss voters in a referendum.
>>78669157
More pakis and blacks obviously.
Once people realize the British dont want to work low payed jobs they will have to start bringing in immigrants from the commonwealth.
That or they remove benefits so the chavs actually have to work.
>>78673487
They care more about Immigration. This whole debate has been run on Immigration, its been pretty much the main topic. Sovereignty has been on the backbench, only diehard MUH EMPIRE people on /pol/ have been spouting this shit.
>>78673514
Shoo leaf, back in your shed.
>>78673514
Hardly high risk when it has consistently risen for decades.
Property prices went up by an average of 10% between 2014-2015. 10% increase in a single year. Now imagine that over many years. It's ludicrous.
>>78670881
Are you a moron?
>>78673629
Look boy, this is what you don't get:
You have no idea about how the EU works. You have no idea what is on the Agenda and why.
If you would know that you would never argue to have remained in this shithouse.
Softly softly catchy monkey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE
>>78673538
>country like that could join at any point in the future
You realise Britain has (had) a veto, no one can join without the UK saying ok
>EU can make up any laws it wants to cuck itself with and we have to abide
You realise the UK opts out of a huge amount of EU law and regulation, and the EU had in fact just acceptable a new deal giving you even more distance, which is no no longer in force because you voted out. UK is the second most deregulated market in the OECD
>>78671377
Check'd
>>78667708
What Remainfags seem to have forgotten (or ignored) is that, had things turned out your way, we wouldn’t have the United Kingdom. The entirety of the UK would be a cucked bitch-tier province of the EU. The EU army would ensure we adopt the Euro, anthem, flag and no doubt the common language (Arabic). Refugees would be swarming us like they have Germany and Sweden. We would have no means of voting for anything meaningful for generations to come, and the natives would be displaced and alienated in their own ex-nation a few generations down the line. It’s a damn good thing we voted to Leave.
Kek blessed our land and willed us to vote Leave.
>>78673815
Mate I voted Leave, but I knew Immigration would just revert to the commonwealth. My fucking worry is, Leave leaders cannot back reducing immigration. Immigration won it for us, and our leaders are fucked because they know they can't reduce it.
>>78673538
Speaking of cucked, has Greece paid its denbts yet?
>>78673629
But listen. Without the Brexit, they could not vote on mudslime immigration because they have no say. They are forced to abide by EU regulations, no? So, the first logical step, if you want to have a say in politics, is to restore your sovereignty. At that point you can control your own affairs and possibly have a vote on immigration law. Staying with the EU, nothing would ever change, there would be no chance for reform because Merkel is in control. Immigration may have taken precedence over other factors such as economics, but sovereignty is a necessary step in accomplishing the endgame of immigration reform.
>>78673977
>speculation
Vote a strong leader who will take care of it, or start a revolution.
Noone ever said Brexit and BOOM it's 1850 again.
>>78674158
>They are forced to abide by EU regulations, no?
No, they arent actually
>>78673977
What's wrong with the commonwealth? Can you not tell the difference between commonwealth and the african flood?
>>78674301
Explain how being an EU member means you don't have to abide by EU regulation.
>>78669706
This is the only legit reason i see to justify Brexit. Too bad most of the leave vote was focused on idiotic reasoning having to do with immigration red herring.
Leaving that huge free trade zone is a steep price to pay to get uncoupled from the socialism, but hey, it might be the right move in the long run. But if London banking diminishes too much because of this, 'leave' will have been the wrong choice.
>>78672137
Then why does literally everyone beg to differ? Everyone always tells me we get more back than we pay. Are there any links to confirm this claim?
>>78673651
We sent one of our Smartest and Wisest Canadians to you and he's been warning of a UK housing bubble for awhile. It's not an uncommon sentiment exactly either. I would say buying UK property is high risk/high reward right now.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bank-boss-alarm-at-buy-to-let-housing-boom-a3165351.html
>>78674525
Because it doesnt. the UK opts out of heaps of EU regulation, doesnt use the euro, isnt in schengen. Everything is negotiated, and the UK has (had) a strong position to bargain from
Someone please explain,
so in order to function and keep trading the UK needs some sort of a deal with the EU (likely something similar to what Norway or Switzerland has). Meaning they can't stop the free movement of people and they'll likely have to continue paying the EU. This is the most retarded thing i've ever seen anyone do.
>>78674339
Realistically, we are going to get cheap labour flooded from the commonwealth. It's not going to be skilled workers from Canada and Australia. Shit, if anything its usually us Brits going that wat
>>78667708
You cared enough about the money to mention, brag, and start a thread over it.
>>78674610
Who disagrees? Its not a secret that the UK's direct payments to the EU are greater than the payments coming back
>>78674610
The benefits of EU membership do not amount to the sum of funding/spending UK recieves back from the EU. There are huge economic benefits to being included in a gargantuan free trade zone.
>>78674726
Pretty much. Anyone who thought this wasnt going to happen was deluded
>>78673912
Angela Merkels cuck fantasies making immigrants German citizens would allow them into England. The immigration policies of other countries will cuck us too.
>>78674680
...Except the EU never took our PM or greviences seriously. What barganing power was that again?
>>78674726
>is is the most retarded thing i've ever seen anyone do
pretty much
>>78674278
Thats like pre school logic, no leader is going to be strong on immigration ever. Multinationals rely too much on it, if Multinationals collapse then sure, but then so will society
>>78674675
It needs to pop sooner or later. Average house price in London currently stands at £500,000
>>78674726
Incorrect. As of right now our politicians are wholly aware that the people are sick and tired of 3rd-world immigration and foreign dictators. Either our trade relationship with the EU is that of what Australia and America has (aka. Only trading, no fucking rule), or there won’t be any trade agreement with the EU.
‘B-but muh single market’
The EU relies a fuck load more on our ability to buy shit, than vice versa. The EU would fuck up big time if they failed to reach an agreement with us that doesn’t concede to our demands.
>>78674887
The power to ignore the vast amounts of EU laws and regulation that you ignore, to not be in schengen or use the euro. EU bent over backwards to accommodate the UK
>>78675087
>The EU relies a fuck load more on our ability to buy shit, than vice versa
Why do leavers keep repeating this? Its literally the opposite. 13% of UK gdp comes from exporting to europe, while 3% of euro gdp comes from exporting to britain
>>78675106
>you have the right to ignore our rules
Do you know how retarded you sound right about now? The EU is changing into a single state empire. I, nor anyone I know wants to be part of that.
>>78674610
I think usually people talk about the benefits to economy and shit that comes from the EU. Obviously direct payments to the EU are lower than the amount of money we make back, otherwise either a) the EU literally conjures up money out of thin air or b) we're getting all the poor Eastern yuros to pay for our farms, which obviously isn't true. Weirdly, I saw one pro-remain video saying that we get £10 from the EU for every £1 we put in, with absolutely no explanation of where that number came from. I think the remain camp somewhat failed at the subtle art of propaganda.
In any case, there's this from 2010: http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2012/01/26/EU27_Money.pdf
We get shafted to the tune of about £5billion, so it's not as bad as what Germany has to deal with.
>>78668918
Nah he's right, you should fuck off
>>78670706
Acton, right next to new crossrail link, hopefully it will be ok
>>78675087
You can also look it from the opposite angle. Brussels needs to fuck you guys as hard as possible to prevent any future exits and look "strong". Less likely but if the Brussels bureaucrats get desperate enough it's a possibility
>>78675208
That's one way of looking at the figures, the other way of looking at it is that we import far more from the EU than we export to it. So high tariffs would fuck over the UK a fair amount, but would seriously fuck over the French and Germans as well.
>>78669665
Yeah like the countless romanians who claimed benefits and the countless poles who would work illegally, claim benefits, go on housing and then send all the money back to Poland to make mansions. The romanians were doing this too.
>>78675087
>The EU would fuck up big time if they failed to reach an agreement with us that doesn’t concede to our demands.
sure the EU wants a trade deal with the UK but only one which profits them aswell.
im pretty sure that "just trading, no fucking rule" is going to end pretty bad for you.
>>78674910
What you are doing is nothing else than speculation.
>commonwealth focus
>shitskins gonna come
>>78675414
I honestly couldn't care if the UK never does another trade with the EU ever again. I'm in this for soveringty, not for fucking money.
Any Brit who cares more about his finance than his right to vote should have his head on a pike at Traitors Gate.
>>78675414
>Brussels needs to fuck you guys as hard as possible to prevent any future exits and look "strong"
I hope they won't do this, but if they do it'll be a pretty good indicator that the EU is a fucking horrible organisation that nobody should go near. If they're really that concerned about painting the map of Europe with as much blue as possible, I want nothing to do with it.
>>78675437
55% of your imports come from europe, while 44% of your exports go there. There is no way to break it down where the EU is worse off from this than the UK, even though both of you are hurt
>>78675480
Mate our Main leaders have been spouting about the commonwealth. Its not me going on a /pol/ conspiracy rant, its fucking fact.
Say what you want, but the 'shitskins gonna come' thing won it for Leave. This is why the next few weeks/months is gonna be a shitstorm when the working class realize nothing will change on that
>>78675619
Such Edge. Guessing living in that basement, you have no worries for Kids, Mortgage, job security?
>About to buy first house in a few months
How is Brexit not glorious?
For any Non Brits, this is the whole backtrack on free movement shit by one of the Leave guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mbqQCO_8gg
>>78675791
If you worry for your kids, you should worry first for their liberty threatened by EUSSR and not about their economic future.
>>78675639
>tell somebody to fuck off
>call it horrible if they then retaliate by being hard in arranging trade agreements
This is not an indicator for anything, its both parties making use of their rights.
>>78675791
>not an argument
But I want to know how the hell is wanting to be a free and independent nation edgy? Is your argument paramount to a well that's all dried up? Faggots like yourself who would trade away your freedom don’t deserve to breath in free air. History’s littered with dictatorships–they even exist present today! North Korea; most of the Arab world; Africa. Democracy is what sets us apart from those shit countries.
>>78676020
I don't doom and gloom it as much as that, but I understand why people worry for their finances. Its a fucking human emotion to want to protect your own, isnt this one of the sole reasons we voted leave? I ain't gonna judge someone for wanting to protect their family interests.
>>78676258
Mate i voted leave. Get real. If you didn't think people would put Their family before politicians who consistently lie to us anyway, then you really haven't been involved with politics much have you?
>>78670418
>Highly skilled
>Computer scientists
What?
>>78676355
People have been worrying for their finances since 2008!
What are you talking about? Where is your point?
>>78676145
It's not a personal attack against anyone, it's just that we as a nation are unhappy with the EU, and always have been. We've always had a weird series of deals and have always been fairly anti-continent, so breaking away from the union entirely isn't attempting to piss people off, it's just a change in how we stand internationally.
Breaking away from the EU doesn't mean that we want to avoid international cooperation, or that we hate the EU as a concept, or that we hate the Germans. It just means we don't want to be part of the union, and punishing everyone (British and EU) for that is just irrational.
>>78673487
>>78673336
They have non-white parts in every major city in UK. Shitskins and niggers migrate for commonwealth, often illegally. This has mostly nothing do with the EU.
The only ones affected by the Brexit will be Polish and Hungarians workers who are in the UK legally and pay the taxes.
>>78676572
If you have a 40 something man, who has kids a wife and a mortgage, he will always vote the safe option for his family, even if he doesn't like it. Fuck it man, we all work to live, not because we fucking love slaving for 40 hours a week.
What you're saying about EUSSR is you just spouting speculation dude. For all we know, China and India will bro double team Europe and invade us in 30 years.
>>78676645
>Breaking away from the EU doesn't mean that we want to avoid international cooperation, or that we hate the EU as a concept, or that we hate the Germans
This is definitely not the image I get when I look at your guys leave campaign or at other people posting in the thread.
>>78676645
Actions have consequences unfortunately. Regardless of your feelings on it, the leave vote has damaged the stability of the EU and they need to respond to that
>>78667708
>>78669563
>>78670810
>me fookin' monee's gone
>>78676828
Some of the diehard /pol/ members have no real life experience, they just care about MUH EMPIRE. I voted leave, but I don't hate you guys <3
>>78676818
Don't repeat after me, man.
>>78675619
>I'm in this for soveringty, not for fucking money.
>yfw we get a Norwegian style deal with the EU
>>78671835
Nationalism is the single greatest force of good in the world, and the best invention of mankind. Without it, we would have no trust or bond to anybody outside our own immediate family or tribal clan. Nationalism is what prevents countries with populations of millions from dissolving into thousands of tiny bickering groups.
>>78676986
we dont hate you aswell
but we also didnt hate greece
>>78673252
>Every nation IN the EU is forced to take mudslimes.
So many comments here say exactly this. Jesus, /pol/ is a bunch of idiots who live in a parallel world.
>>78676828
It's fucking hyperbole. Do you even 4chan?
>>78676948
i love when idiots are so quick to talk about "muh crash" and stupid shit lke that, like they think they can use it as evidence brexit was bad
>>78676828
Thankfully those guys aren't our MPs.
>>78676871
True, so I guess the EU can now try one of two things:
1. Benevolence - co-operate with the UK as much as possible to ensure a smooth transition in leaving, and focus on the grievances of other EU nations to make sure they want to stay in rather than leave. Our referendum has pretty clearly shown that there are a lot of people unhappy with the EU as it currently stands, so it needs to adapts to people's needs to keep itself stable.
2. Malice - circle the wagons, and fuck the UK over hard so no other country dares to leave. This could work quite nicely in keeping France, the Netherlands and Scandinavia in line, but it might also have the opposite effect and cause a nasty collapse of the EU, which wouldn't be nice for anyone.
Personally, for everyone's sake, I hope they go with option 1.
>>78673252
We're still most likely going to have to allow free movement of EU citizens into the UK.
Mudslimes become EU citizens, they can still come here.
The only difference is we now can't use vetos or political pressure to change this.
>>78677470
They'll try and use anything to justify why Brexit's was "a disaster", man.
>>78675363
now I know which house to rob tonight
>>78677470
you are away that its going to take years for britain to leave the EU?
its probably going to be a downward trend over that time.
>>78677489
I suspect it will be somewhere in between. The EU isnt going to be actively conciliatory, but it wont go full revenge politics either. The UK will push for a norway style deal but with greater sovereignty, backed by the UKs much greater size and wealth. EU will negotiate but wont concede to much. You will still be subject to some amount of EU regulation, there will be free movement of labour at least
>>78677049
Norway is part of Scandinavia and very close to them. They have almost full member status but not officially for their own reasons. They also were never members to reject and insult the founders of the EU.
Highly doubt that's gonna happen mate.
>>78677738
EU doesnt want to lose the UK market anymore than UK want to lose europe. A norway style deal is what will unless shit gets actively belligerent
>>78677470
>FTSE 100
Those are mainly international companies. No shit they're not heavily effected.
FTSE 250 is down 7%, and is used as the marker of our domestic economy. There has been a crash in the UK economy, but we're going to have to wait for the next few weeks to see how much it recovers, because a lot of it may just be shock.
The UK is still in the EU for the next few years, the true test won't come until after Article 50 is completed and the UK finally stands on it's own feet with whatever deals it's managed to hammer out with the EU and internationally.
>>78667708
Because it makes the globalists lose their shit.
THIS is always a good thing.
>>78677849
In which case, they will still have to abide by the EU rules... so except pissing off the EU members what was achieved here exactly?
>>78667708
Mussies rape and kill your women, have to obey the EUs laws on muslim crimes which is minimal.
>>78677729
>there will be free movement of labour at least
That'll probably be the main sticking point. For a lot of people, the main issue they were concerned about was immigration, so the tories would have serious problems if they kept the free movement of people going.
But yeah, you're probably right. I guess in large part everything depends on our glorious new leader. God help us all if it's Boris.
>>78672237
sounds like denial m8. they hate us. We'll have no control at calais with no brits working there, and they won't stop the migrants leaving to britain. how is that war? all they do is step away
>>78673556
kek
>>78677489
They're going for option 2 quite clearly, which makes sense. Them being nice to us would basically be signing the death warrant of the EU.
Option 1 guarantees collapse, Option 2 doesn't so it's a no brainer.
Various EU countries also stand to benefit from a weakened Britain and in particular, Europe will be looking to shift Europe's financial centre from London into a city within it's borders, possibly Frankfurt.
I can't honestly see any way the EU's interests would be aided by a strong, independant Britain.
>>78678051
Very little, unless the EU collapses completely
>>78678093
Yeah people wont be happy, but the EU wont let you back into the market without it. Interesting times ahead I think
>>78678250
As long as the UK is demonstrably worse off the EU wins, and frankly I struggle to see how you can spin this into an advantage in the next few years
>>78667708
Because it means that Albion will be the last hold out of the High Elves, I mean humans. While the rest of Europe becomes Rainbow Nation tier.
>>78678051
Nothing. Leave was basically entirely about national pride.
Many people in the UK would prefer to feel pride in a weak Britain, rather than a lack of control in a strong one.
There's also the fact that many people didn't even understand the implications of a Leave vote. Almost all the Leave voters I spoke to, their main issue was immigration, which they believed leaving the EU would allow them to stop.
>>78670881
if merkel has her way, it soon will be.
>>78670418
once you reach critical indian density it will start a chain reaction that will cover all streets with shit. are you sure you want to risk that?
>>78669706
Ita an opportunity, but can britons be adaptable enough to turn it around after decades of socialism?
>>78670517
why not do it the proper way then and massacer a minority?
>>78672065
I'm thinking of doing this, only because of leaving, which makes it harder to move.
>>78678493
I have some brit friends here in Romania... They were speechless after the results were in.
Really sorry to see you go from the Euro family britfriends.
>>78670418
Indians write the worst fucking code though. They cut corners non-stop.
>>78678424
It certainly seems unlikey at the moment but it's very early days so we'll have to see.
The only thing that's certain is that we're in for the fight of our lives to try and salvage as much of our international position as we can before Article 50 goes through, I hope the politicians who worked so hard to convince people to vote Leave now put in an equal or greater amount of effort to fight what is going to be a far less voter pleasing/career aiding struggle.
>>78678452
Well, even our Leave campaign is now pushing (and was before the referendum if you paid attention) for a Norwegian style deal with the EU so we can retain access to the Common Market. No one in Leave was every really campaigning for isolationism, although a lot of people got that impression, both here on /pol/ and in the UK.
Any deal like that would mean Britain would still be bound by the EU's freedom of movement clauses, which are one of it's founding principles after all.
So any diversity that arrives in the EU, once it is granted an EU passport, will still be quite capable of relocating to the UK.
The Brexit won't really change Britain's immigration figures at all, in fact it'll probably mean that other EU countries actually have less of a reason to block movement, since said 'diversity' will be actively trying to exit the EU, so it's win-win from their perspective.
>>78667708
Stop being retarded and go back to your own country stupid Anglo leech. We haven't gained a thing with EU. Our crime has increased by 3 times, our unemployment has increased by 3 times, we have no independence, we have no money, apartments are 10 to 15 times more expensive, we have practically same salary but bread and milk costs the same, people care more about what foreigners do than caring about home affairs, marriages are failing more likely..etc. Christards should be all nailed on the cross, since that's the only think we gained with EU, more Christian parties and more church property.
>>78670844
Yeah, I'm sure devolving power to the Tory government will be great for Worker's rights, the environment, the housing market, the NHS, education
Truly the will of the people is now going to be felt
>>78679054
We can only hope. You've stepped into the dark Dad, but I still have faith in you. Make us proud
If you support remain:
1. You don't care about independence, and refuse to see any benefit to it whatsoever
2. You have this mystical, fantasy land idea of all the countries coming together and awww it's so precious, everybody loves each other, there's nothing wrong with global government at all :^)
3. You don't care about Muslim importation, deny the crime waves that come with letting them in, and call people "racist" who don't like their stupid ideology
>>78679004
I hope it works out for you guys.
One silver lining from your perspective at least, this may have shocked the EU leaders enough that they start some more robust border controls to prevent further nationalist-powered exits from the EU, so you'll hopefully benefit in the long run.
>>78679418
1.There IS basically no tangible benefit beyond pride
2.Only sjw nutjobs think that means anything
3.Why do you think thats going to stop?
>>78679288
The only thing that we can realistically blame the EU for (but it's mostly adapting the Euro) is higher prices of everyday goods.
As for everything else, if we weren't in EU financial crisis would fuck us 3x more. And some of the stuff you posted was entirely our own fault. You sir, are and idiot.
>>78667708
well, fuckhead the UK will win long term as far as the economy goes
Thats the point. Most likely you had a shitty business, and a shitty business model, and most likey those EU rules kept your cancer of business going, when it was anti-capitalistic and should have died a long time ago
amazing how people can only consider the world only in the context of how it relates to themselves. psycho paths do this
>>78671527
but you have now the competence to stop that. which you had not before.
even if your population was 100% against immigration, it would be impossible to stop while in the EU.
>>78679907
>well, fuckhead the UK will win long term as far as the economy goes
How, exactly?
>>78678424
apparently we're going to do it with german cars. no idea how though
>>78667708
Drives investors to the US and makes us stronger.
It was never about you.
>>78679907
>well, fuckhead the UK will win long term as far as the economy goes
Post written based on feels. Long term they will be fucked big time.
>>78679838
It's not only them pushing for the EU bro but the people in the less fortunate countries too.
Here in Romania if you want to pay rent, buy a house or a car, hell even take a loan you think it in Euros.
Before the EU the preferred currency was the USD... I imagine we are not the only ones.
>>78673231
>he thinks the turks won't chew off both their legs to join the EU
it's a good job you're not european, i'll just put you making such a stupid comment down to sheer ignorance
>>78680086
Gotta put that meme magic to work
>>78680229
Theyve been trying for 30 years, and until you morons voted to leave you could veto them at every attempt
>>78680144
i'm coming to slovenia in a week, is it nice at this time? (can i stay pls)
>>78680144
No, the EU is dying. You're gonna see Britian was right in 5, 10 years time.
>>78679418
Well, I don't feel independance has intrinsic value no. Somalia is independant, but I wouldn't want to live there.
I'd prefer to live in a prosperous and stable federation than an independant but vulnerable sovereign state.
As for the second point, the EU has been working together and expanding for forty years now, I think it's beyond the point where you can reasonably claim that European countries have no shared interests and are incapable of working together.
Love isn't required for cooperation, only law. Most of the UK distrusts one another, hell, parts of England hate other parts of England as much or more as they hate European states.
Finally, Brexit was never a solution to mass immigration, I don't personally agree with mass immigration, I think it causes countless social problems, ethnic tensions and yes, the Religion of Peace™ is not something particularly compatible with European values in my opinion. But the fact of the matter is that Leave just tried (and succeeded) to make it a key issue to secure votes. You'll note they never actually mentioned reducing immigration, they just talked about 'taking control of our borders' which is a nice, commitment free voter-winning.
Immigration to Britain, both from the EU and internationally, isn't going to be reduced, the Leave campaign has now come right out and said as much since the Brexit vote.
Power is better decentralized.
>>78680461
trolling aside
the EU might dying
in that case all of europe is going to lose. We cant compete with super states like China and the US like that.
I mean it is fine as long as we can be the US lapdog but if they ever gonna go full trump we may have to compete on our own which we just cant.
>>78680431
My brother comes often to Dublin ( I know it's not the same, but you too have oceanic climate) because he works for a company there and he says the difference is huge. Get ready to experience actual summer, not your 365 day autumn.
>>78680835
I think it'll very much depend on the next elections in France and Germany.
If nationalist factions gain control or make significant gains, I think it could well spend the end of the European project within the next decade.
If pro-EU factions retain control, you might actually see a more rapid process towards federalisation, something the UK has been a massive block to for the whole of the EU's history.
>>78681251
indeed. and if anything the brexit is a wakeup call for the EU. they already knew their ways where not working well, now they know they have to act on it.
so EU reforms could be the best outcome of all this.
but I fear they wont have enough time and convince people it could still work.
if the UK would become a 5th world country and only a ruin of ashes, then people might vote remain even when their right-wing gov's want to leave.
if the UK has some magical surrealistic uprising, the EU is dead.
>>78669563
Your brother will be forced from his home so a Muslim family of 9 can live on government assistance. Oh wait, you left the EU, nevermind.
>>78667708
You underestimate the British people, we will burn this bloody continent to the ground, even if it means taking ourselves out with the rest of you wankers before we hand it over to tyranny.
>>78669220
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>78671983
>Fast food chains
>Proof of Americanization
You're seriously a hand to mouth thinker if that's your biggest complaint
>>78682317
we gonna make you the new greece.
>>78667708
Because it makes Eastern European leeches like yourself mad.
>>78680072
Long term, Britain always wins. Haven't you seen HISTORY?
>>78680835
Jesus hans, what happened to you guys? This is why we're leaving, we Brits KNOW we can make it on our own, the big wide world doesn't scare us like it does you.
>>78682607
If we're Eastern Europe, so are you.
>my cousin works in Britain
>got absolutely BTFO by Indian/African co-workers
>Eastern Europeans steal jobs of Commonwealth people!
>they all voted for Brexit
Mudslimes voted for Brexit too. Seems like us Slavs are the "problem".
>>78683183
shut the fuck up Slovakia
>>78683397
Don't be mad because you're becoming as irrelevant as I am.
>>78683183
You're part of the Eastern Shithole Block and an eternal leech on wealthier more successful countries. Can't wait for the EU to be Germany+post commie Shithole Block+Turkey
>>78683663
Don't give yourself any illusions, you'll be in whatever group Germany will be. At least I can join up with fellow Slavs.
>>78670600
> London has been one of the best places to make a real estate investment in the world
Sydneysider here; we hit the point several years ago where the median house price is a million dollars; the average person can save their entire salary and will never be able to afford a house.
Housing investment markets are bullshit, our government has jiffied the tax system such that the stamp duty on property sales is one of the major income sources of our state; they're doubling down on this bubble and when it blows we're all fucked. Dont turn real estate markets into investment markets, it's literally shitting where you eat.
Get into gold or bitcoin, it's far more stable and you're less likely to get fucked up the asshole.
>>78683267
>mudslimes take over country
>flood of Eastern European whites who won't put up with their shit hits Britain
>vote yes on brexit
>Britain continues taking in mudslimes,but not Europeans
Shitskins won and /pol/ is celebrating
>>78682982
>we Brits KNOW we can make it on our own
Well 52% at least...
>>78682536
Good luck with that Hans.
We're taking you down for a third bloody time, you krauts never learn do you?
>>78684063
This comment deserves a thread of its own. Well done Romaniabro.
