American here. All my US friends on Facebook are up in arms about Brexit. Basically everyone wanted remain. When I ask them why they were against leaving, the only thing they ever respond with is "It's racist."
As someone who just genuinely wants to know why people oppose Brexit, is this true? Is the media in Britain saying the same thing? That the only reason to be against leaving is because it's racist?
There's a lot of reasons to leave. But honestly the only valid one you need is immigration. I guess the UK was sick of the roving Pakistani rape gangs
No. Only people who say it's racist are tumblrinas and other uneducated fucks.
>>78551597
My sister is buttmad because she wanted free college in the UK and this means she can't leech the Brits for a useless post-grad education in art history
Silent majority. We get stifled in every forum so we speak with our vote.
Democracy is beautiful.
>>78551597
I put a "yay Brexit" line on my Facebook, but no one responded to me. My Facebook friends don't give a crap about me.
>>78551597
The only main logical reason that they have is that article 50
"A government must trigger the article by officially notifying the EU of its intention to leave. Then there is a two-year period in which the terms of the leaver’s exit are negotiated. During this time Britain would no longer be able to take part in any EU decision-making, and any exit agreements must be approved by all 27 remaining EU nations and the European Parliament. Then after Britain’s formal exit, fresh negotiations can begin on any new trade deals. "
Which is basically a way to still hold britian under the EU's power for a duration of up to 15 years at most
This is getting largely falsified as trade deals with china are now being talked about as well as previously sanctioned by EU russia
All the other arguments are shit and hold no logic or merit
People that bitch about the results on social media arnt worth caring about.
you're just acting like a child, throwing a strop in public.
>>78552114
Cool, there's a chance she will become a stripper now.
>>78551597
The only reason to leave is racism, so it kind of makes sense.
This is a very bad idea, and the populus, the least educated and wealthy which voted leave, will be the ones to suffer the most from this.
They bought the demagogue rhetoric, they will eat the demagogue dish, and its generally really shitty.
That only mean they don't have any reasonable argument. Instead they use some go-to word for labeling something as bad. Immigration is one of the reasons. The strongest argument against EU I heard from intelligent folks was that GB should not became part of European socialist superstate. They have their own way of doing things and it is not really compatible with French and German beurocratic wet dreams
>>78551597
JUST POST THIS IMAGE AND TELL THEM A BRITISH MAN GAVE IT TO YOU
>>78551597
Nowadays to win an argument you just shout racist.
Your "friends" are fucking retards.
Get rid of Facebook dumbass.
>>78551597
>brexit
a classic struggle between people that know and people that don't have a clue.
I am glad the right people won this time.
>>78552591
You're right it was just about 'racism'. That whole democracy argument was just a ploy to rally up all the racist nationalists. Sovereignty is a code word for hatred...
>mfw American who understands Brexit better than UK voter
>>78551597
Pretty much a lot of my leftie chums on facebook are butthurt because it's racist. I have a handful of friends who work abroad in the EU and they are understandably uncertain about their future and careers, ditto european friends living and working in the UK. There's also a couple of people with significant others from EU countries that are a bit uncertain about what's going off, and they're not happy.
So yeah, there's some with legitimate reasons, but I'd say they're in the minority of people "disappointed" with the country because it's "racist". Damn old white people. I've been very calm and measured and not mentioned what my intentions to vote were and how I voted to anyone, but I think people are starting to suspect now.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiesola/2016/06/22/brexit-poll-shows-80-of-americans-think-britain-should-leave-eu/#6186ed3e62b6
Your friends are part of the Le Reddit hivemind. They don't know what is happening outside of their John Oliver circlejerk. 80% of Americans wanted the UK out of the EU.
Also post more freckled redheads, I need to masturbate.
>>78551597
>the only thing they ever respond with is "It's racist."
thats your cue to end the debate. continued argument is a waste of time.
>but someone is wrong on the internet! i must correct them!
go ahead and waste your time if you want.
I'm in some UK based streetwear group and they all agree on Brexiteers their main motivation is racism.
>>78551597
I had a problem with the fact the EU Commission, is not really democratically accountable. I had hoped there would be some traction on that and there could be reform and a second referendum. Anyway, alot of leavers voted due to immigration, though that could be seen as racist , UK is already quite mixed and I think it was about the pressure on wages it created for a majority of residents here. Some argue to deny a Romanian £9 an hour in uk when he works for £3ph in Romania so you can earn £11ph as a native uk resident is racist as you are denying the Romanian an opportunity. I don't think it is racist at all.
>>78551597
racism is not a bad thing
>>78552114
Your sister is a fucking cunt, and uni isn't free here, anyway.
the 'racism' card has been so overused nowadays, that it's become the default go-to bogeyman by the left when they've got nothing left of substance to argue with
I'm guessing those people never heard of the concept of newspeak
>>78552591
>The only reason to leave is racism, so it kind of makes sense.
The logical conclusion is to then compromise with the "racists" by given them what they want on immigration which then allows you to keep everything else.
The left's refusal to compromise on this single issue kind of fucked everyone over. Not every body wants to be buddy buddy with the whole of the Islamic world and sub-saharan Africa.
I hope to one day live in a world when people realize that "it's racist" as a counter-argument has absolutely no substance whatsoever.
>>78551597
The political class calls us racist everytime we complain that we can't get school places, our youth can't find jobs and our NHS is overloaded. Personally I think the majority of these issues are fault of our own government but if your own government does listen to you, and you're given an opportunity to show them they do not speak for you then people will take it. The way the political class in both the uk and EU have utter disdain for the public and democracy it was inevitable that people would lash out.
Outside of that the EU can only work if everyone is under the euro and the EU has tighter regulation and more controls to ensure no governments will go into recession and hurt the continents currency which will affect them all greately. A lot of people are not happy about this and this is one of the main reasons I voted out. Win or lose, I would rather it be on our own terms, there would be so much animosity in Europe if it caused economic instability and broke under great strain, better to get out now while things are going okay and if they want to continue with their project they can go ahead. Sadly it seems only because we left they are now thinking about bringing more democracy to the EU, FUNNY THAT!
>>78551597
Best case economic model forcast 2% decline in gdp after 10 years, increased difficulty to travel and trade within europe, diy recession
>>78552398
Just posted a YouTube vid of rule britannia with no status lol
The economy is going to go to shit.
Leave has not proposed a strategy and is working on the presumption that everything is going to go on as before.
The pound is taking a beating, FRANCE already overtook us in terms of economy within 6 hours.
>>78551597
So your digital friends, can't explain why they feel a certain way about laws in other countries that don't affect them.
Why is this a thread?
I've been called racist so many times, it's lost it's meaning.
I've never even said anything racist; it's just implied by the fact I'm white, male, and employed. No one can explain it to me, but they sure love using that word. Apparently exercising your right to vote is now "racist", so most of us by default, are racist.
>>78551597
Because leaving is doubleplus ungood
>>78551597
Ew, why does she have so many freckles?
I'd still hit it, but I wouldn't tell my friends about it.
>>78554257
Go have a heart attack with your money, George Soros. You will not be missed.
>>78552398
Why would they care
Anytime one of my buds asks me if I "saw his Facebook status" I just call him a faggot
>Travelling to other countries will be more expensive
>Flights will increase in cost too (which I do every 3-4 months or so)
>Getting Euros will be more expensive
>Buying items online (which I do all the time) from European countries will be more expensive for me now
>Fuel prices set to increase by an EXTRA 3p per litre next week and possibly higher afterwards
>Inflation will increase
>Wages set to decrease
>Rent/mortgage costs will increase (as much as £1000 per year)
Remind me why this is a good idea lads? Genuine question. I don't really understand all this politics lark. So please no bully. I guess the one good thing is house prices are set to decrease/freeze which might help me buy my own place sometime in the future, but lending/inflation is set to go up so not really...
Anyone?
>>78552451
>Then there is a two-year period in which the terms of the leaver’s exit are negotiated. During this time Britain would no longer be able to take part in any EU decision-making, and any exit agreements must be approved by all 27 remaining EU nations and the European Parliament.
What a great deal.
>>78554616
this is good because you're not going to have a union that hands corporations complete control over your daily lives
>>78554257
>FRANCE already overtook us in terms of economy within 6 hours.
>fluctuations in price on the market are accurate reflection of the fundamentals
The rise and fall of empires all happens within the span of day.
>>78551597
some here, all they say is it's racist?
Not trolling here but how exactly is it racist in there opinion?
I don't know too much about the EU thing and I'd like to know how excatly it's racist
>>78554257
Yes the pound is tanking because already rich people are becoming even richer thanks to the exit. When there is uncertainty the pound is obviously going to drop. On top of that people are speculating on it going down so they're going to make a lot of cash, it's a sure fire thing so EVERYONE is going to be speculating on the pound dropping so it's going to be bad. Who gives a shit about a change over a day? Show it me in ten years.
Also France can take their better economy, we will take our cities not being shot up by terrorists so it's all good.
>>78551597
>racist
THERE'S NOT A GODDAMN WORD THAT I HATE MORE THAN THIS FUCKING CUMGOBBLING SHITEATING REPUGNANT GARBAGE WORD FUCK AND DAMN ETERNALLY THE PERSON WHO INVENTED THIS AND ANYONE WHO EVER FUCKING USED IT UNIRONICALLY.
>>78554257
>~1.4 - ~1.3 USD / GBP.
Gee anon, you better move your 100mil you have invested in the short term currency market. I mean surely you're massively affected by this and all so quit posting and get onto it
for your own sanity i suggest you get comfortable with being a racist. i know it goes against your programming but they will always find a way to make you out to be one.
also if a claim isn't falsifiable it inherently isn't true. there is no way for you to prove you aren't a racist, therefore its a bullshit claim with no substance and should be treated as such.
>>78554779
and the biggest corporation that won't be handed control over your daily lives in europe is the united states of america
>>78553430
I think it's pretty neat that US, Canada, Australia, and NZ all wanted dad to leave. Also US really loves freedom so its no surprise that real Americans had such a high leave rate
>>78551597
The thing they don't realise is that leaving the EU is only blocking European (white, Christian) immigration.
>>78554692
>>78551597
How is Brexit racist?
YES
OLD
WHITE
MEN
DESTROYED
THEIR
DREAMS
>>78552742
FUCKIN RACIST
>>78554869
stay offended
>>78554779
Sorry, no idea what you're talking about. Can you please explain in a little bit more detail? Maybe use an example to help your answer along? Thanks.
>>78551597
Weird.
My FB friends are talking more about how how it ruins the UK's economy. Im not really that informed when it comes to economy in UK so I have just been lurking until I find a huge red flag.
>>78551597
Yes OP. It's racism. Leaving something makes you a racist.
Leave your house in the morning? Racist. Leave your car to enter the work place? Well that's racist too. I bet you're probably even one of those racist's that left your mother's womb. Disgusting.
>>78551597
Remember when the EU was trying to force gun control on all members?
Fuck the EU in it's globalist fascist ass.
This is a victory for the people, now get back to work reworking your economy.
>>78555531
don't like monstanto gmo crops invasively invading genetically rich and diverse european crops? then this is good
>>78555283
This. Catholic Poles are the only reason London is still majority white.
Farage has spoken about the joys of """""""Non-EU"""""" (Non-white) immigration constantly over the last few years.
We just got played.
>>78554616
Euros will be more expensive now vut other countries will want to exit so the euro is gonna take a hit and will be cheaper itself which will affect a lot of the things you're concerned about. Buying stuff online you mostly get shit from China or Germany so maybe substitute your German shit with Chinese shit. Or better yet help small businesses and buy British.
For fuel we can at least change the taxes on fuel if we desire to do so, but it'll likely stay until the pound recovers.
Wages have stagnated for ages, that's why the government was going to put in £10 min wage, which means you'll get more competition for jobs.
I imagine rents will drop if immigration levels drop, but I think the government would actually increase immigration quite a lot cause all parties are for mass immigration cause they think it'll boost the economy.
It's not going to be great but it'll be fine, I got through the 2008 crash without issue and I don't think things will get that bad. Thankfully for me I can always get an Irish passport as backup and go somewhere else
>>78551597
I'd imagine some people are agains Brexit legitimately only because they're "racist" (quotes because in reality it's more like nationalistic but close enough). So the liberals try to play the card, if you're with leave, look at these redneck racists, this is who you're with. Even though for most people it's other things or some combination.
I would actually argue that an immigration system that heavily favours people from european countries over people from anywhere else in the world is more inherently racist
>>78555658
>monstanto gmo crops
u wot m8?
>invasively invading genetically rich
wot
>and diverse european crops
WOT
The only reason I'm happy Leave won is because it triggers the lefties, and if it triggers them, it must be good.
>>78551848
Pakistan is not in EU
>>78551597
Silly goy, of course you're a racist if you're not willing to have your nation absorb all of the poverty of the third world.
>>78555968
people from other countries have the ability to make their own countries better
>>78555968
Well you're a fucking idiot then.
>>78554616
Get fucked, cuck!
>>78551597
Its considered racist because it is partly a response to the migrant crisis in the EU
Which doesn't check out because the EU already has millions of muslims. So I they were racist how did they get to millions of muslims already.
Look... the financial and social burden of the migrants is a serious issue. Money does not grow on trees. You don't just admit a 100 billion dollar liability into your country from a dangerous region of the world with tons of cultural issues like radicalization and regressive attitudes toward females.
Additionally a country has the right to vet its own immigrants and make positive informed choices about what is in its best interest. It doesn't deserve to be told by a bureaucrat in a different country it HAS to take in X amount of else. What is that? What about the cost? What about the tax money they collect from citizens not being used to protect those citizens?
>>78556044
the eu had control of uk's borders
>>78556044
....your point being?
>>78555861
So basically I'm right in thinking we're fucked?
And that hopefully (but not definitely) in a few years we might recover?
>buy British
m8, I do but somethings simply cannot be bought in Britain.
>>78552591
The wealthy voted remain. Everybody on Facebook is flipping their shit saying that the rich bankers all voted for leave just to fuck with the poor.
i forgot to vote lmao
Pls respond to my shitpost, I got dubs
>>78554511
I fucked a nigger once,
I fucked a black girl once,
I fucked an indian once,
I fucked a mulato
I fucked a Romanian immigrant,
Not racist against skin colour
I hate muslims,
I hate Jews,
I hate Islam,
I am a culturalist. I can even say this in public.
>mfw I say I'm culturalist
>>78554313
When we are all racist, none of us will be. The word has lost power.
>>78556044
ANot anymore thanks to Brexit
>>78551597
>muh racism
Those idiots should be executed.
>>78551597
Its raciss because:
>Oy vey, they aren't aditting everyone eqoly into their cuntry, even though everyone are the same, I swear those syrians are rocket engeneers
>>78556202
why? the current immigration system heavily favours nations with a white majority, while countries such as jamaica don't get a look in despite the fact we have the same head of state.
how is a system that prioritises whites not more racist than one that treats all immigrants the same?
>>78556366
Britian has the highest banker to normie demographic ratio in the entire world in that case.
BANKERS BUTTHURT is gigantic!
>>78556044
Or Latvian murders coming to this country and raping and murdering 13 year old girls and burying them at a bottom of a canal!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/murdered-schoolgirl-alice-gross-looked-6441112
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Alice_Gross
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