Does this mean we'll lose Gibraltar now?
If Spain tries to invade you, we got your back, Britbro.
>>78527389
And America, Britain and the EU has Spain's back, Ethan.
>tfw the War of Spanish Succession was all for nothing
>>78528070
>America and Britain has Spain's back
Do you have any reading comprehension at all? I said if Spain tries to do anything stupid then America would support Britain. Also,
>taking land from NATO member
>>78527389
not until Trump gets in office, unfortunately.
Obama has already made it clear he'll support the E.U. before the U.K.
Basically Spain has until November to make their move.
I'm confused as to what the boys and girls on the Rock will do now.
As far as I know, they don't really want to join Spain and now we know they also overwhelming don't want to leave the EU.
Does this mean they'll push for independence and form a island state like a smaller Singapore?
Will the Moors try and reclaim it? Will the (Carthaginian) Tunisians and the (Phoenician) Lebanese try and reclaim it?
>>78528070
>EU has Spains back
TOPFUCKINGKEK
Because the EU could defeat and United States & UK alliance, not to mention other myriad of other British colonies that would join the fight
W-We'll gladly take it back
>>78528896
>"Basically Spain has until November to make their move."
>tfw we've accidentally started the first war in Western Europe in 3/4 of a century
>>78527389
So do we.
>>78529182
Other previous owners might throw their hat into the ring for a piece of the rock: Tunisia, Lebanon, Morocco, Algeria, Italy etc.
I'm sure they'd shit the bed once they realized that Spain and the EU would likely make them pay tax like normal mainland people.
Not have their own economic status as an overseas territory.
They don't want to be a part of Spain. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
They'll get over it and fall in line.
>>78529073
are you autistic?...USA are allied with EU not uk...
>>78529290
War is good. It purges the weak and hardens the strong.
Why do you think nu-males are such a problem? No conscription and no real wars.
>>78530208
We can only wait and see.
>>78530677
War may be good in general, but is war good for either UK and Spain or Europe in general at this moment in time?
>>78530958
If you conscript the minorities and send them on suicidal missions it will be.
>>78527389
We too. We will drop some nukes
>>78527389
>>78531537
You're not the country leaders you fucking autists
US would never side with 1 country over 27 countries
>>78531537
Putin seems genuinely happy with the way things have gone.
>>78528919
They didn't want to leave the EU but they sure as hell don't want to become independent like Scotland or N. Ireland.
Like proper british citizens and not stroppy children I expect them to suck up their loss and get on with it.
>>78530677
>>78530958
Any war on EU turf will be for the gain of the jews.
The only war we need to wage is directly against the jews until they are no more. They want the same to happen to us. It's us or them. Don't let it be them.
>>78528361
Spain would never try to do anything stupid and you know that perfectly well. We can't say the same about others though...
>>78531389
Not the worst idea, I've heard. Would be a hard sell though.
>>78529290
Condor legion, when?
>>78529073
UK could not defeat Spain with America and EU defending Spain.>>78528361
>>78531867
>Happy Putin
>KGB Putin
What's the difference?
>>78530677
>>78527145
Give it to Scotland.
>>78529886
They can't have the cake and eat it too, that is unfair.
Who's ready?
>Gibralta
who?
>>78532312
Will you be pushing for a unification with Norn Iron now that Sinn Fein have declared a mandate for it yet again?
>>78532444
Shit, I ruined by get with a missing 'r'!
>>78527145
Treaty of Utrecht says Britain keeps Gibraltar forever, without exception, so that may come into play.
>>78532454
It's the British pronunciation of Gibraltar, silly!
>>78528919
I imagine we'll negotiate in our leaving agreement free movement on the Gibraltar/Spanish border and it will put most of the concerns at ease.
>>78532665
We were also supposed to keep Hong Kong forever, mate. How did that turn out for us?
>>78532788
I feel bad for Hongkongers.
Sorry Spanish bros but we'll have to honour 1373 if it comes down to it.
>>78532640
>>78532444
Is there just a site (outside of normal Wikipedia) where you can just construct your own Wiki battle/war box like that?
>>78532903
Hong Kong is a smelly shit hole anyway.
>>78533030
It's a smelly shithole because you gave it to the chinks and didn't make a modern shithole instead.
>>78532953
Not that I know of.
>>78532788
Who cares.
Chances are Spain will work something out with the UK to let people with a Gibraltar residence have free transit in Spain.
A lot of people in Southern Spain also work in Gibraltar, both nations benefit from trade in that area.
If I were Spain, I'd push for a bigger cut of the money generated in Gibraltar, by charging the UK in some way for that travel between two countries. Everyone can win here...
As far as I'm aware, there isn't any bad blood today between the UK and Spain, aside from drunk tourists. And given that Portugal is just Spain's sister that's dating the UK for the last few hundred years, Spain would play nice with his brother in law. See?
>>78531537
>>78531867
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/683100/Russia-reacts-Brexit-Putin-victory-Moscow
Trade friends with Russia as a substitute for Germany, that way both of us can grow.
I support Gibraltar. They voted in their best interests. I even support NI.
But not Scotland. I hate Scotland.
>>78530677
>he types from his basement
>>78533203
How did you built it then? Did you just take a real box and then photoshop it or did you make it in an edit page of a wiki. They look really cool.
>>78532926
It's been a long time, old chum.
>>78529657
Should go back to Greece. It was created by a Greek.
>>78533910
Hercules... dah, I mean Herakles, you mean?
>>78533435
If it's what the Scots want, then they're gonna have to have another referendum whether we want it or not.
>>78533203
It was a smelly shithole 20 years ago as well. Visited it in the early 90s and again this year. Nothing has changed other than more people speaking Mandarin.
Soon...
>>78533209
>As far as I'm aware, there isn't any bad blood today between the UK and Spain, aside from drunk tourists
And football hooligans, yes. We were both mortal enemies from the sixteenth to the nineteenth century but yeah, nothing major since then.
>>78533570
Inspect Element in Chrome.
>>78534677
Just set up som bastions in the right places and spain will be stuck in the first chokehold forever.
>>78534677
My fondest memory on that map is the time I had 92% of the match on fire as Reinhardt, and gold for eliminations with 28.
>>78534981
If your MMR is low enough to where that's a valid strategy, someone can just pick Genji and press E.
>>78535182
I was implying that spain is shit enough for it to work.
>>78535350
Then the survivors would go on the Blizzard forums and complain about him being OP.
>>78535571
As if the spanish know enough english to do that.
>>78535684
We do you monster.
>>78535684
Who said they'd complain in English? They'd complain in Spanish, get banned for not using English, then complain in Spanish about getting banned.
>>78535684
My sides made contact with Mars.
>>78532005
We have a naval base(s) in Spain. We wouldn't go to war with a country that we have a base in. That's our way of saying this is your house but our name is on it too.
>>78534932
Cheers.
>>78534677
>not the Camp Gibraltar map from Battlefield 2142
>>78536099
No, that is our way of showing what great allies we are since your independence from the UK.
>>78532788
Since when does ''99 years'' mean ''forever''?
silly briton.
>>78537215
>your independence from the UK
Which Spain helped acquire.
>>78537597
From Wikipedia:
At the Treaty of Nanking in 1842, Hong Kong itself was ceded "in perpetuity" (常遠, Cháng yuǎn, in the Chinese version of the treaty), son.
It was at the 1898 Convention for the Extension of Hong Kong Territory that the territories north of what is now Boundary Street and south of the Sham Chun River, and the surrounding islands, later known as the "New Territories" were leased to the United Kingdom for 99 years.
Best brush up on your history, colonial, or I'll send a few Mohawks and Abenaki to burn down your house.
>>78527145
Never heard of Gibraltar
Is it the same place thats in Overwatch?
>>78538998
Yep.
>>78527145
>Gibraltar leaves the UK
>Immediately becomes a shithole because we essentially fund it.
Nope, like Scotland they are just cucky because they don't actually make any money and are on the gravy train.
>>78528070
>And America, Britain and the EU has Spain's back, Ethan.
More like they have our asses and we even dare to get cocky about it.
>>78541126
It would be cool if Gibraltar become the Singapore of the West but I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.
>>78529073
Russia would also help us, they refill their warships in Spain (20km or less away from Gibraltar :) )
>>78529290
>p us, they refill their warships in Spain
>Spain attacking Gibraltar
That would be the most retarded political move since we let in the French to """invade""" Portugal.
But let's do it for shits and giggles.
>>78533435
The unification of Britain was a mistake.
>>78544045
Will you guys take us back, Claudius?
>>78537215
Well well basque and Catlaunia will make a movement dear Spain
Good, it was a shit map
Spain won't take Gibraltar, it will receive Gibraltar who will throw themselves at Spain's feet.
I hope you enjoyed Britain while it lasted because soon it'll just be England.
>>78527145
it was never yours in the first place
>>78544882
Neck yourself, Moro.
>>78544750
We'll still have the Welsh.
>>78534703
>We were both mortal enemies
Not really man, we've never gone full total war against each other, we've never really had very good relations, but neither really bad, our relationship has always been more of fucking around and taking the piss out of each other.
>>78527145
>Gibraltar joining Spain as they elect commies
Not gonna happen.
>>78532444
>NOW HEADING TO WATCHPOINT GIBRALTAR
All tracer/junkrat vs. Reapers.
>>78544750
>Wanting to go get into Spain given our current situation.
At worst Britbongs will give it freely to us just for the bantz.
>>78528070
The only Army the EU has is France, and if you actually think France would side with the EU on anything then high fucking lel.
Seriously just let it go. It's a fucking rock. We only care because you do.
spain give back Ceuta
>>78532788
That was a lease
>>78545936
Not originally. It was the New Territories that were leased. Hong Kong itself was supposed to be forever.
>>78538998
>never heard of Gibraltar
fucking American education, never ceases to amaze me
>>78527145
and scotland, and norther ireland.
>>78546372
>Hurr durr one retard posting means all Americans are poorly educated
You must be a memer, go back to Transylvania.
>>78545878
Time for the EU to allow Turkey to join?
>>78546707
We conquered half of France with neither. We should be okay.
>>78532665
yahh but what is Britain? If Scotland and northern Ireland leave Gibraltar may follow. Being a union of states who has the right to keep territories like Gibraltar? Is it England? Or maybe they are bound to the crown. In that case will the Crown provide rulers for the potentially leaving kingdoms or will they turn into republics
>>78544467
Basque here, if my fucking region makes a move i will fucking kill myself, hate this fucking terrorist antifa gay ass culture R E M A I N I N S P A I N
>>78547018
We conquered Gibraltar in 1704 as the Kingdom of England, Scotland and Ireland but by Utrecht in 1713, we were the Kingdom of Great Britain. I don't know if this will be relevant at all.
>>78546749
I am a meme, but seriously from what i have experienced your public school system has some big problems. Anyway that was a lucky guess , I live and lived all my life in Transylvania.
>>78527145
is the UK still a nuclear power?
>>78547018
If Gibraltar left they'd be royally fucked. A rock with 40,000 people?
Who'd they join?
Spain?
Last time they voted for share sovereignty they rejected it by 98+%
>>78547619
Yep.
>>78532788
No it fucking wasn't you mongoloid
>filename
fuck off back to /leddit/ you fucking cuck get the fuck out of my country
>>78547539
what i say is that the Scottish and the Irish have the same claim on the land as England. So in the event that they depart, who gets to keep Gibraltar.
Will EU losing Gibraltar mean that the UK gets to tax those using the Chanel ?
>>78527145
Yes
Co-sovereignity now
>>78547773
>join spain: 96% against
>leave eu: 96% against
They just want to maintain their priviledge as a tax haven, would you voluntarily step down from a priviledged position? No, no one would.
>>78544467
>Latest poll made by basque nacionalist party says only 26% of Basque citizen want the independence (central goverment's says 22%)
>Catalonia needs 100.000 million € per year from the rest of Spain to avoid bankrupcy. Debt is at BBB ratings (meaning pure shit)
Yeah... nope.
>>78547773
You are right it would be a legal nightmare.
> 6/10 that it will be annexed by Morocco and become the second sharia former British territory after London
>>78532629
Nobody wants the troubles to kick off again, unionist or nationalist. There should only be a referendum for Northern Ireland if it's only the people of Northern Ireland voting.
If the Republic get to vote in it then well itll be a United Ireland then probably. Not because anyone down south wants one more so just to stick it to the brits.
>>78548624
I didn't think about it in a Tax Haven perspective, you're right though, maybe they'd just go with Scotland if they decide to separate from the UK.
It will be pretty interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years of article 50's countdown timer.
>>78548279
READ THE FUCKING TREATY YOU FUCKING SPUNK BUBBLE
http://www.international.ucla.edu/asia/article/18421
>It being obviously necessary and desirable, that British Subjects should have some Port whereat they may careen and refit their Ships, when required, and keep Stores for that purpose, His Majesty the Emperor of China cedes to Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain, etc., the Island of Hongkong, to be possessed [spoiler]in perpetuity[/spoiler] by Her Britannic Majesty, Her Heirs and Successors, and to be governed by such Laws and Regulations as Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain, etc., shall see fit to direct.
>>78531782
>Implying the EU would support spain annexing gibraltar.
No one would bother with war, but economic sanctions is pretty much guarantied on any central European country that starts rattling it's saber on neighbors.
Since spain is pretty weak the sanctions would ruin their economy and make support of catalonian independence a possibility.
>>78548341
>the Scottish and the Irish have the same claim on the land as England
Ireland has no more claim on it than the USA (they were as much a province of the empire then as Massachusetts). Scotland, possibly.
>>78549175
To put thing in perspective, Spain has tried a couple of times to get Gibraltar into the european tax heaven's list. Only member blocking this was UK.
>>78549269
red pill me on losing Hong Kong
Did the UK just decide to throw the treaty away?
>>78547587
>Actual discussion
In some states, the public education system is atrocious. However, there also exist regions where there are stellar public schools in place. I was educated by the state and can attest to it not being as terrible as some of the areas get a bad reputation for.
>lucky guess
My 4chan gold pass membership lets me see your IP and where you post from; I am looking at a satellite image of where you are right now, Dracula.
good luck mounting an invasion on the rock, Spain
>>78532105
>Diversity is our strength :^)
>>78530402
The congress is made up of Republicans, who would gladly help the UK over the EU. Just because the Muslim in chief hates you doesn't mean the rest of our government would fall in line.
>>78528896
> not until Trump gets in office
That's a pretty big IF
>>78549539
The Communists had always maintained that since the UK had made the 1898 convention (regarding the New Territories being leased for 99 years) with the Qing Dynasty, the People's Republic had no reason or obligation to go along with this.
Deng Xiaoping told Thatcher to her face that he could take back Hong Kong tomorrow if he wanted and Thatcher agreed that he could and we wouldn't be able to stop him without starting WW3. He insisted that Hong Kong should be returned with the leased territories (even though we weren't obligated to do so). We decided that HK on its own would be practically ungovernable, tactically indefensible and financially undesirable now so it was included in the bargain with the lease.
A lot of Cantonese felt the UK had betrayed them as they preferred British rule to that of the Communists.
>>78550631
Looking a bit more likely after today.
>>78528070
I would launch a nuclear bomb in Madrid and Barcelona if you tried to invade British Territory, we've already had an invasion from you, the eternal Moor needs to be stopped
We should sell it desu.
>>78553643
Has anyone ever auctioned an island before, senpai?
>>78554173
No idea lads, I imagine only ones without population.
You can keep gibraltar for all I care, but the spanish government should close the fucking border and let those smugglers rot, no wonder those fucker voted remain en masse.
