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So, how long until we see a complete reform of the European Union
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So, how long until we see a complete reform of the European Union to prevent it from absolute implosion?
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>>78524997
Before the end of july.
The clock is ticking and several countries already want their own exit referendum. If they're not quick it'll be over by christmas.
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>>78524997
There will be no reform of the union only more federalism and eurocrat grab for absolute totalitarian power. Brexit will only make them panic and hurry their plans to rid europe of democracy and the rule of the people for once and for all.
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There is only one way to save the EU
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how long until muslims are 51% of the european population?

it'll fall. either through everyone leaving or muslims vs everyone else civil war, it'll fall.
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>>78526013
about time
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>>78526013
>>78526659
so, you cunts want second ass beating??? fine with me.
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>>78525368

Britbongs were cock-blocking most of the plans for further integration. They're now out of the way. The United States of Europe can finally begin.
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>>78527026
As it stands right now, several other countries are demanding a vote for leaving/staying too.

Holland, Denmark, Italy and France I think
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>>78527194

>other countries
>countries

You mean the populist right parties?
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>>78524997
it's literally either a fundamental reform of the """""democratic""""" process in the EU or a fall. they dont want it to fall and i doubt theyre stupid enough to not have got the message
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>>78527301
I don't know about the others, but those are the majority in Denmark at least, at the moment.
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>>78527301
**the populist right parties wihich will get majoirty of votes
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>>78527194
That's just bullshit, like 90% of the delusional stuff people say on this board.
The leaders of the populist parties now are just "SEE? WE CAN DO IT TOO XD" and that's about it
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If Netherlands or France leaves it's over. Too few countries contributing positively into the EUs pockets to bear the weight of the south.

>>78527194

As much as i want it to happen, a DK referendum would 99% be voting to remain. Situation here is not bad enough for most people to vote leave.
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>>78527659
But we see both the extreme left and extreme right calling for a vote, DF being one of the leading parties at the moment (although they probably have lost quite a few voters since last time)
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>>78527301
Yeah. Populist parties both left and right. Populism itself isn't bad actually it's the most democratic political stance one can take. If you listen to peoples worries and complaints and act accordingly you're labeled populist by the eurocratic elitists. I think more populism is necessary to fend of elitists powergrab and solidification of EU authoritarianism.
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>>78527934

Do you actually buy that the EU is some sort of 'authoritarian superstate'? Member states still have the final say in the European Council. The Commission can't do anything without approval from the other institutions.
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>>78528488
>Member states still have the final say in the European Council.
>The Commission can't do anything without approval from the other institutions.

Which is something they are rabidly trying to get rid of. While I don't believe EU is 'authoritarian superstate', as you put, yet there is a real push to become one fast.
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>>78527820

What the parties say does not matter in votes like this for the most part, just look at the ref we had in december.

If we had a ref right now, remain would win, because we are not impacted as hard as other countries are yet.

In a few years, with more cuts to education, police, elderly care, healthcare etc then people might turn around, but as is, situation in DK is too good for a leave vote to win.
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>>78526995
Sorry bro. We have Trump. America won't be fighting alongside a bunch of communist faggots this time. You get to face the nationalists all on your own.
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Fuck me if a big economy like France left with us it would be hilarious
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>>78524997
From how the eurocrats operate I suspect no real reforms, but blatant propaganda, open terror and dictatorial nonsense, which will in fact make the disintegration faster and more painful for all Europe. Let's hope we can make through this without a major war.
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>>78529211
we dont even need you this time. Putin will BTFO singlehandedly, whilst you cheer on the sidelines.
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>>78529313
Then you would quickly see the rest follow

Maybe except Germany, Sweden and slavic shitholes
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>>78529506
** just promise to leave NATO
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>>78526995
You aren't a true Croatian is you aren't a Nazi sympathizer.
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>>78524997
is Dexit a real possibility or is it a meme?
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>>78524997
>UK leaves
>UK loses all privilege be had in eu
>UK loses half territory
>Scotland join eu
>Scotland adopts euro
>England starves
>India propose England to be removed from uno security Council
>England loses half of his atomic weapons because they are stationed in Scotland
>England ask to go back in eu
>England adopts euro
>England does not get any of his previousl privileged back
>England has to sign up for the eu army
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>>78529998
By leaving the EU the UK will be able to freely trade with China, Russia, India, Brazil. That alone will be a huge economic boom, not to mention the UK won't have to obey the idiotic EU regulations and quotas anymore.
Another huge factor is the Commonwealth! The UK now can restructure the commonwealth into a global economic and military alliance which could now become a word power. Basically the UK with a proper government now has the chance to create a modernized version of the British Empire...
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god damn wussies hiding behind your laws and rules, a big fat WW3 would probably do us all a world of good. Fuck i wanna shoot socialists on the battlefield.
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>>78529625
you really think this EU would be nationalistic?? look what they are doing, they dont give a fuck about the native population.

I dont want to compete with niggers and sandniggers on job markets or pay taxes for their reproduction. FUCK EU.
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>>78529669

Currently i do not think it would happen. Our rightwing anti-EU party has also been hesitant about speaking of a referendum because they know this.

Situation in DK is still good enough that a majority would vote stay. A poll suggested that 42% of Danes want a referendum. People wanting a ref are probably those who wanna leave, so we are not quite there yet.

However other countries leaving would dissolve the union by itself, as there will be no more money left spending on countries needing bailouts.
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>>78530165
>All those young males
>No females in sight
epic
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>>78530129
Cringe
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>>78530114

The US is too big for UK to make a "modern empire". US would call the shots in such an alliance, just like they call the shots in NATO.
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>>78524997

Soon, I hope. EU is far too much agenda driven.
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>>78530114
Or the anglozone could just lough at England once it become 40th world power after Scotland leaves and most of London is relocated to doublin and frankfourt
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>>78529998

>Le Pen wins
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>Merkel walk the dinosaur?
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>>78530328
come on, lets not lie. I see at least 7 females there.
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Hahahaha, the EU is now going to have to invite Russia now, if they want to stabilize.

Or the roaches.
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>>78529998
>England Loses half of Nukes.
NOPE. Just move them out of traitorsburg.
The rest is complete silly shit from a salty weak power that can't hold its own against a strong breeze and light rain. And as such desperately needs to be part of a bigger league.
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>>78530651
The roaches are DEFINITELY coming in, which would be the last nail in the coffin for EU.

Merkel has been prepping EU to letting them in for a while. Especially with this refugee bullshit.
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>>78530628
The better question is how gaping are all their holes by this point.
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>>78530928
well, you'll never find out now that you voted LEAVE mate
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>>78528884

They would need the approval of the Council to actually get such radical change. In other words, it's extremely improbable.

What is more likely is that the European Parliament gain more power. It's evolved from a purely consultative assembly to one that has the power to amend Commission proposals, suggest legislation, approve/reject Commissioners and approve/reject the Commission President.
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>>78524997
There is no saving the EU. You will need to discard EVERYTHING and use the German federal constitution to form a real macro state. Not a single politician will want that. There is no union only pretend one. The emperor has no clothes and now we all know and have seen it. It is over. Put your Euro saving in US dollars or gold and await the sure collapse of the EU and Euro. It may be quick (2 years) or lethargically slow (20) but the EU is over.
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>>78530717
Yes the assumption is that UK will lose 2/3 of his influence because of Scotland and London decadence. At that point eu will not give a shit about England, but England will care about eu
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>>78527194
They'll need nerves of steel and giant balls to pull something like that off.

Have they got what it takes?
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>>78531146
Probably depends on what EU is going to do in the following couple of months
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Spain is the third largest economy in the European Union now. You know, that country with 50% youth unemployment.

The EU is dead on its feet.
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>>78531010
...And thats a bad thing?
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>>78531146
Nah. UK will not have recovered in 1 year and every other country that will do the dance will be too spoked to vote yes
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>>78529998
Giuseppe' s been on the opium again.
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>>78531134
Scotland is a desperate shithole propped up by us. So whatever there. London is infested with fucking morons, they will come around or fall. Whichever suits us.
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They could let applicants like Turkey join
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>>78527486
>they dont want it to fall and i doubt theyre stupid enough to not have got the message
yet when faced with the prospect of Britain leaving they simply doubled down on being retarded instead of trying to change.
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>>78531497
Londoneers may very well be morons, but London is the center of trade off Europea. And banks are already running
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>Stop doing meth
>OH GOD I'M SHAKING AND HURTING ALL OVER I GUESS METH WAS GOOD FOR ME LADS
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>>78524997
Stricter outer border controls under a European agency to stop non European immigrants, and some form of European NATO.
Federalism goes to fridge for at least 20 years.
And guarantees that Merkel and any other German leader won't go full retard in the expense of the whole continent, like it happened with the "refugees".
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>>78530165
I see 5 women
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>>78524997
EU has proposed
>a system for distributing refugees among all member states

Mutti Merkel has
>given all turks access to Europe

Thanks for giving the deathblow to the EU Mutti Merkel.
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>>78532265
This is probably the best metaphor for Brexit I have seen.
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>>78532916
the only way you can prevent me from buying one countires products is if you make them more expensive goy.
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>>78526013

please kek make it happen
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>>78533477
** or if the country uses taxes to make EU more cucked (like Germany, I literally never buy anything on amazon.de, even if its cheaper than buying it in Croatia)
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>>78533477
>the only way you can prevent me from buying one countires products is if you make them more expensive goy.
That's because you are a slave of the Jews, who want you to reason with your pockets and not with your heart, so they can better manipulate you.
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>>78533983
>reason with your heart
>allow immigrants into Europe and let them outbreed your native population

fuck off cunt
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>>78526013
>>78525368
>US, Ruskies, and Britbongs come back together to smack the germancuck's shit one last time

God I can only hope this is true.
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>>78529506
Russia just implemented a law which allows the police to listen to phone calls and read private messages.
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>>78534322
you better encrypt those calls and messages then. the illusion of privacy (like in the west) is even worse than knowing you are spied on
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>>78531819
>They could let applicants like Turkey join
And that would make the rest of the EU less likely to leave how?
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Very soon. They're fucking shitting themselves
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>>78532916
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They can't. They have proven time and time again that they are unable to reform themselves.

And then there's another issue for them. Even if they do reform, will people buy it? We had 2 referendums calling for the EU to change course; both were ignored. The eurosceptics here have said time and time again that they are not interested in negotiating with the EU.

I think they're pretty done. The hatred for the arrogant technocratic elite is such that I don't see it going away no matter what they do.
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>>78524997

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/24/europe-plunged-crisis-britain-votes-leave-eu-european-union

They just made an example of the UK.
Good job chaps, you destroyed the country, if the UK will even be left after this.

Well, the leave vote was mostly low education/low wage classes, richer ones can just abandon ship and laugh at the ignorant who will suffer dearly for this, time to abandon ship.
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>>78531819
t. Abdul

>>78534719
Didn't Hofer of Austria say they must leave the EU if Turkey joins?
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>>78536284
Well, Turkey entering would surely ensure boosting ++++10-30% for leaving the EU in ANY other member state, even Germany.
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>>78535736
>Good job chaps, you destroyed the country, if the UK will even be left after this
leaving a sinking ship isnt destroying the country.
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>>78524997
First we'll see meaures "against the UK" that "can't be avoided" which will damage EU economies more so no one else gets the silly idea to leave.
I wouldn't be surpsrised if they get the second referendum going or another color revolution is started by Soros-types.
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>>78530114
You really think "the commonwealth" would go for anything kek. The only relevant countries are India, Canada and Australia, and we could give less of a shit about the most irrelevant shithole of a country known as Britain.
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>>78537384
Canada's imports include a lot of agriculture products from the US, as the US's agriculture is slowing down, with additional stress from droughts and weak infrastructure, I wouldn't find it hard to believe that the small % of UK exports, which are largely agriculture, could easily be taken up by Canada.
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>>78536957
Yes. It is.

A sinking ship can be repaired, jumping into a shark infested water is just stupid.
70% of UK GDP is finance sector, leaving the EU means the UK loses its position, there is no longer a reason to be here.

Companies are relocating already, this changes nothing in immigration.
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>>78534166
Man, you've just said something like:
>I hate Jews
>I only buy the cheapest products

Now, I understand you are a TurboSlav, but frankly this idea of buying only the cheapest products make you a slave [Slav] of the Jews. No more.
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>>78538225
Companies? Source? I read just banks.

The EU isn't just a sinking ship, it's a burning sinking ship infested with rats that tax and legislate against everything that could help put out the fire. There's nothing left, unless the very core of the EU is reformed completely, possibly costing 10k jobs at the EU level as well as all those at bonuses and unchecked power that the politicians will never let go off.
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>>78538657
Investment companies, banks, financial sector.
Follow BBC its all there.

Nah, its just a sinking ship thats it, the UK gained a lot from being in the EU, especially the working classes that had EU regulations looking up for their wellbeing.

A good example is that maternity leave didnt even exist until the EU imposed it.
The voting demographics (more educated - remain, less educated - leave) is also very telling.

UK will be made an example off, we are fucked, simply put, far more than having remained.
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>>78524997
Why do people always say implosion? If anything, this is an explosion.
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>>78538225
view it more as a head start for Britian. I used to support the EU, but direction it's taken the past decade is just ridiculous. They overplayed their hand. I'm guessing this is the beginning of the end for the EU.
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>>78524997
>reform
if they were smart, yes and fast

however join commission leaders are looking to push more social justice and punish the UK via red tape and immediately kicking us out
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>>78539186
>expanding maternity leave
>good
it put millions of mothers out of work
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>>78526013
>implying that wasn't the plan all along
I can't believe people don't realize the EU was just German power grab 3: Revenge of the Sith

>>78527934
Populism is bad specifically because it's how elites play peoples' insecurities to grab power for themselves.
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>>78539186
>A good example is that maternity leave
And you believe that now those laws are suddenly going to be stopped, more so since people are used to them now? The UK isn't suddenly going back to pre-EU laws, you know..

>The voting demographics
That's what they always say, but first of all, everyone has the same right to a vote and secondly, 'more educated' can be anything, people educated in engineering, mathemathics, physics, doctors, they are all highly educated but two things to note, 1, they are educated in anything aside from politics, 2, they are bombarded with pro-EU pro-PC propaganda in colleges throughout their studies, it's normal that they are more prone to buy into it. They are likely to have less free time to spend on reading and learning about politics and are likely to live in better areas and are for that reason less exposed to the downsides of the EU.
You can't just disregard votes like that.
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>>78524997

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