As a Scot I would just like to apologise on behalf of Scotland's cuckolded participation (although there are many redpilled Leave voters here too) during this referendum and I am just glad that Scotland's pro-EU stance has not affected the vote in Remain's favour as much as expected.
Rule Britannia!
>>78391717
Be greatful you aren't a nat. I'm sweating like David Cameron's pig.
There are so many fucking pitfalls here. If we keep the UK in the EU, then we might unduly ruin our own hopes of leaving the UK [as it would demonstrate influence], if we're narrowly dragged out then we've either got to push for a referendum we can't win or wait a little bit [at which point the SNP loses it's chance to take it's case to the EU if the UK acts unfairly.]
I don't even know what fucking result I want. It's all up in the air.
>>78392416
Why do you want independence? All that will result in is the SNP having a vice grip on our country (likely never to be released) while they turn us into Sweden 2.0. The SNP seems to be only nationalist in name.
>>78393668
Scotland is a nation, and nations should fundamentally be independent. Various maneuvers on the part of the UK, and instances of the mask slipping [frequent references in this referendum to 'England' where 'Britain' would be more apt.] indicate the direction of travel.
It would also liberate Scottish politics. Scottish parties have always built support by the appeal to an "other" [Unionists (Conservatives) will protect from centralizing socialists > Labour will protect Scotland's industry from rich English Tories > SNP will protect Scotland from rich English Tories.]
In no way am I drawn to "muh braveheart", I have the strongest appreciation for England - insomuch as I feel a Scottish departure would liberate her to restore her own identity.
Scotland and England in 2016 make for natural partners, but not something that naturally needs overriding political union. Like the EU, there are better ways to handle these things.
Ultimately, however, it does come to an almost Powell-esque belief in supremacy of the nation-state. [Powell himself believed that if Scotland fundamentally considered itself a distinct nation, it should be independent.] With 66% of Scots [admittedly a number that's somewhat falling] identifying as primarily if not exclusively Scottish, that's something that seems to be borne out.
>>78391717
Yeah me too for what it's worth.
Subhumans
>>78391717
You're not Canadian. Why the fuck should you apologize in the first place?
what happened scotland, you used to be cool
>mfw Wales is actually pretty based and Scotland are the cucks
my grandfather is from Scotland and he looks so dissappointed.
>>78396905
Scotland was never cool.
>>78391717
Scotland is like wanna be Sweden. You will never be as cool as us. We suck huge Somali dick while you settle for puny Pakkie dicks. You are inferior cukcs. What nigger would bull your iferior freckle hags_
>>78391717
Deport the immigrants from London to Scotland, then forcibly eject Scotland from the Union.
>>78391717
yep, sorry lads
We're not all bad - just infested with SJWs and lefties
>>78395837
You're right - real men always choose sovereignty.
However, you're seriously underestimating your leftists. Requiring them to do more than reload their benefits card will never happen. A working man earning an honest day's wages is Scottish history