And if women were not allowed to vote the chance of voting remain would be non existent.
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
This is why mass migration is a thing.
>>78288233
There is so much evidence of people bitching about immigration and yet the politicians keep going at it for more power.
It's all so fucked up.
We need a WHITE country only for WHITES.
>>78288009
Same here.
If either women or nonwhites weren't allowed to vote, the Democrat Party would have to be dissolved over their inability to win anything more than a mere handful of states.
Gee, I wonder how people made their decisions
>>78288856
>>78288406
>>78288233
I think during these years we are learning some less right? Perhaps the foundations for a new nation.
>>78291753
>less
lessons*
>>78291753
I think the problem is more down to how our society treats women: they are told they are always perfect and have no responsibility, the media absolutely inundates them with socialist messages. It's no wonder they are brain dead politically.
I think an educated, independent woman would vote similarly to a man.
>>78292636
We've had cautionary tales about letting women be equal in politics for as long as we've had the written word. It's deeper seated than the modern media's treatment of them.
>>78292636
>I think an educated, independent woman would vote similarly to a man.
i.e A woman married to a sensible man.
I am not sure if women are capable of making good decisions about borders for example. Also it is men who need to fight the wars, why should women be allowed to vote about things that might end in conflicts they won't fight in.
>>78293154
Yeah very true.
Requesting that ancient story about women gaining political power and basically making the society a communist basket case.
>>78293539
Could be several, but judging by your use of communist I'm guessing you meant Ecclesiazusae.
>>78294503
>Ecclesiazusae.
Brilliant thanks that is the one.
Here is a description if anyone is interested.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen
>>78294503
Copies of this book should be handed out at leftist events and colleges.
>>78293425
Well i think that irresponsibility is at the seat of all women's problems. They act recklessly, start shit and know that men will pick up all the pieces and protect them/ claim that they should and the suffering they are experiencing is the result of men's shirking of duty.
I'm just not entirely sure it's a biological disposition - though I have never met a woman who advocates individual rights and objectivity over subjectivity - even including my mother and gf who are pretty right leaning as it goes.
Even had an argument with my gf last night because I was insisting a mtf transexual is still 'he' and it is literally in the DSM as a mental illness.
>>78288406
East Europe?
>>78296233
>Even had an argument with my gf last night because I was insisting a mtf transexual is still 'he' and it is literally in the DSM as a mental illness.
Well I gotta give you props for that.
Nature or Nurture right?
>>78294897
They would not understand the message and wish for a filmatization instead. Everyone involved with the film, especially the hack writers, would just make some "modern" adjustments, rewriting it to fit their narrative.
>>78296800
I don't doubt they feel they 'should be' the other sex in the same way I dont doubt a schizophrenic actually sees his hallucinations. But that doesn't change their chromosomes, brain structure, hormones, organs etc. They are wrong if in any way they think they actually are the other sex and are somehow 'trapped'.
The reason it is correctly diagnosed as a mental illness and isn't just 'scientists behind the time like they were with homosexuality' is because an important criteria for a mental illness in the DSM is that it necessarily causes distress. Homosexuality, in an accepting society doesn't seem to have to do so. But the very nature of transexuality is distressing, you feel your own body is wrong. No amount of people saying its ok will make a transexual not feel uncomfortable in his body.
That would be enough but even further when they go through reassignment it barely helps. I think the whole inclusiveness movement is sick when it tries to override medicine like this, these are people afflicted with a disease and we should be helping, not celebrating. What a nightmare if you had depression and everyone just said it was a unique, different perspective and must be continued.
>>78298424
My brother went to University and became a pretty radical progressive. We were talking about the transgender topic and he was saying that a man can transgender and be a woman. I asked if he would marry a transgender MtoF.. he was silent.
>>78288009
>46% is higher than 48%
OP is a retarded idiot.
>>78298424
I highly recommend this documentary if you are interested in the transgender topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTF_XVspfDM
Maybe your girlfriend will be interested if you continue discussing this stuff.
Keep in mind women are very societal norm based, talking about these things may cause conflict between both of you. I think gradually drip feeding her information and exposing her to people like Lauren South & Milo may do the trick.
>>78288233
To out breed whites. It's literally a UN policy.
>>78299541
Do you even understand the post?
>>78299716
Elaborate
>>78299201
Once again leftists are only such because they have no foresight or sense of responsibility, it obviously caused a total brain collapse when he had to consider the consequences of his own logic.
It's the same thing all the time arguing with them - they argue with you, then when they lose a point they immediately move away from it and when the argument is going well they just walk away.
They will then use the exact points they used before on someone else again and again.
Intellectual dishonesty.
>>78296233
Even the 'leaver' women talk about voting with their heart and their feelings.
The enfranchisement of women came too early, they weren't educated or responsible enough as a demographic to be suddenly given equal voting rights. They were not equal, they were still housewives. Too comfortable to act recklessly from their protected places.
Its led us to this.
>>78299664
I try not to talk about these things with her, i already do it too much and it does cause some conflict. Im barely /pol/: im strongly libertarian, believe in the supremacy of western post-enlightenment culture and am not particularly anti-gun. I'm not racist nor do i believe in any of the pol conspiracies or jew rubbish.
But even that much makes me out to be hitler 2.0 sometimes in her eyes, when im criticizing islam or welfare. I wonder how blue pilled some people must really be, an irish friend of mine once caused a bit of tension by describing someone as 'black'. It's unreal.
>>78291753
I've certainly learned just why women lacked the right to vote in the past.
>>78300296
I imagine they're even more left voting now though than when they first got the vote and they're more 'educated'. I think the problem is the education they're receiving, its all deeply left. Add to that media which is primarily aimed at women, celebrities who are by their profession uneducated appeal to women, an increasing 'feel good' movement again addressed to women.
I dont think they're neurologically limited, i think we've just raised a sick culture which breeds totally stupid women.
>>78300205
Yeah man, I imagine it is pretty tough talking about these things with your girlfriend if she is on board with the whole transgender thing. I try not get into these types of debates with leftists these days, my brother in particular gets pretty dam angry. If I do discuss such things with leftists I tend to hold my cards fairly close to my chest.
>>78293539
Wasn't that only a fictional story though?
Not implying women don't fuck up countries when given voting rights btw.
>>78300774
>an irish friend of mine once caused a bit of tension by describing someone as 'black'.
Ha yeah bro, I have witnessed someone be called racist because he referred to someone as "you now, that black guy".
I would watch out for her if she is following the progressive script. For example if you were to marry her she would not feel any stigma about divorce for example. Though I don't know her full personality, she might be good in other ways.
>>78301897
Yeah its fiction man, but has it not been playing out in slow motion for 100 years? I think there are prob some other historical examples of such things.
>only the opinions of white males matter
Kill your self.
>>78301544
If your brother is young / just gone to uni there could still be hope. They prey on new students and most go along with it for girls and laziness more than anything.
I even voted to rejoin the NUS in my first year because I knew nothing about it and people told me it would be great. Without knowing that the uni had removed it literally a year before due to censorship.
>>78302156
>>only the opinions of white males matter
In white nations, when it comes to things such as border. Yeah pretty much.. Not all white males of course.
>inb4 mudblood
>kys/removeyourself
>>78288009
Eventually a nation will be built around fixing such social issues, and it will likely be done in a respectable manner.
Probably based on the American system of government but explicitly forbidding womens' suffrage.
>>78288009
Married women with kids are usually bit more conservative. Just stop single women voting.
>>78302156
Okay Justin...
>>78302253
Hes my older brother lol, he used to be a Hitchens atheist before he went to uni but is now getting on with all the progressive stuff such as anti discrimination against tattooed people, white privilege and quotas.
He wants to work as an EU bureaucrat essentially. I think he cares a lot about peer/female approval. Wants a high status job whilst impressing the retarded women of our society.
>>78288406
Eastern Europe sees what is happening.
They put their feet down against this.
Thank god someone is.
>>78288009
>he still believes that those in power would allow people to actually decide what to do
Please. The result is known beforehand. It will be 51-53% for "remain".
>>78298424
They weren't wrong about homosexuality. Despite society more or less excepting it, it still is the source of much distress.
>>78301926
Well she's not stupid, she's an engineer, votes conservative and isn't a raging slut which is unheard of nowadays.
I know a lot of her beliefs will be down to living with me rather than just her own, but really its me against all her friends, all her tv and all the news. I honestly think the most you can hope for is a sensible girl who is open to discussion the other way.
>>78302661
Well if he wants a high status job he's going about it the right way. I'm a doctor and I honestly couldn't post anything like here on fb or say it at work. When the nhs strikes were going on I sometimes posted against some of the left-wing ranting going on online and genuinely wondered if it was safe for my job. I'd never post anything critical of islam, like even a link to an atrocity - that would cause some internal meeting.
>>78302939
She sounds pretty good desu. And yes, the peers/tv etc make it hard for white men who want to keep their balls/sense of truth intact in relationships.
>looks at facebook
>girl I've been talking to (fingered once) is sharing all these remain memes
>'likes' a bunch of statuses about how leavers are all racist
>but privately she has had long discussions with me about the important of democracy & sovereignty
I don't know what to think /pol/. Is she shilling on facebook for likes & social status? Is she a spy to out my power level? Does she only go along with the discussions we have because she wants my dick?
>>78303341
>Well if he wants a high status job he's going about it the right way. I'm a doctor
Don't worry about that man, your career is infinitely more noble, provides immediate value and actually requires a higher IQ. If he does get this job he will just be an additional scourge on those of us who try to get on making an honest living, feeding off our tax money and pushing the progressive agenda.
>>78304280
>Does she only go along with the discussions we have because she wants my dick?
Pretty much. She doesn't have thoughts of her own, she just espouses the necessary opinions for maximum gain in the moment.
>>78304280
>>girl I've been talking to (fingered once) is sharing all these remain memes
desu
>>78296673
>Slavs
>White
Choose one
>>78304553
>just espouses the necessary opinions for maximum gains
I'd say this saddens me, but I realize that I & every normie does this on a day to day basis for gains. Its just life I guess.
Atleast voting is anonymous.
>>78304280
When they think they are always infallible they can be what they want: she probably believes she is a warrior for democracy and sovereignty, whilst also being a progressive and inclusive fighter for the EU. Whatever argument is going on she will be on the right side, 'right' being decided by most popular.
How do you think you get all left wingers acting like they are the last bastions of free will when fighting christian censorship or limitations of gender expression, but then also ban all speech they don't like and talk about toxic masculinity. They are no more principled that the latest buzzfeed article tells them to be.
>>78288009
Your educated voted to remain, the pound's value would have dropped significantly if you left, massive inflation would occur, glad you stayed, I made a lot of money by betting on that(invested in pound)
>>78305123
>I'd say this saddens me, but I realize that I & every normie does this on a day to day basis for gains. Its just life I guess
You shill for Remain when you speak to normies but secretly vote for Leave? lel
>>78305225
>Your educated voted to remain, the pound's value would have dropped significantly if you left, massive inflation would occur,
LOL even if that happened in the short term, they are not exactly the most important issues.
Have you transfered your pounds yet?
>>78305536
No, not when it comes to politics. I say I'm voting leave, but frame the argument for leaving to paint the EU as a 'right-wing, neo-liberal institution, advanting the western economies over poor african nations', or something like that. I don't make it sound as cucked though.
But, say a topic of conversation comes about that I don't really have much deep understanding on like 'electrical engineering'. I'd repeat a clever tidbit of information, that made me sound clever even if I had no knowledge on the topic & if pressed would unravel.
Most people are like this with politics.
>>78305823
Yes I have, inflation is a pretty important issue though, it'd fuck your economy up. In the long run I think Ireland would benefit immensely from Brexit though, we'd be the only English speaking nation in Europe, we'd have even more multinationals
>>78305225
the pound was rising even when the polls came out last week putting leave ahead by like 10 points, its a poor indicator
>>78306184
I am most concerned about the demographics and authoritarian progressive policies of the EU. Not that Brexit would solve this of course, we are in a mess either way.
As for the economic side, I really don't think it will effect my career at all (trade with non EU country), so am fine on a personal level.
>>78288009
You're right, OP.
>>78306357
>>78306184
I think it is important to remember with trading, a lot of the fluctuations are just self fulfilling prophecies due to memes.
>import millions of mudslimes because of the eu
>cant leave the eu because the millions of mudslimes vote to remain in the eu
Kinda funny isnt it
>>78306085
>Most people are like this with politics.
True to be fair, most the people voting today probably don't really care about politics, but feel social pressure to look intelligent so they must have the right opinion.
I don't go on Facebook anymore these days, but I bet there are so many pissing contests between shallow apolitical people about the referendum.
>>78306662
I feel pretty good about going to Ukraine next year. Thanks!
>>78288009
It's because men are too prideful and can't accept someone else having influence over "their" country. It's a good thing there's a voice of reason to counteract that now.
>>78307280
Agreed.
>>78306662
ahhhhh Portugal still held on a little bit
>>78288009
/pol/ needs a women and minority outreach program
>>78299859
Demographic replacement.
>>78299859
wait, no, replacement migration.
>>78288009
Anon all my actual immigrant friends are voting Leave. It's the illegal shitskins that are the problem.
Today, a shitload of muslim 'refugees' are being paid to vote remain. While so many English probably won't even vote
>>78310914
>Today, a shitload of muslim 'refugees' are being paid to vote remain.
Can always trust them to stab us in the night.
