The new elections are this Sunday, what is spanish /pol/ voting?
PP - Democristian-Liberal party
PSOE - Socialdemocrat party
Cs - Socialdemocrat party
PODEMOS - Marxists party
Vox - Conservative right wing party
UPYD - Socialdemocrat party
Falange - Far right party
P-LIB - Libertarian party
Bildu - Terrorist party
PNV - Basque nationalist party
ERC - Marxist catalonian independentist party
Convergencia - Right wing catalonian independentist party
Others
>>78267104
I am voting PP btw, the rest are a bunch of SJWs and have no fucking idea of economy (except Cs)
>>78267104
I would be voting PP, but with the fucking Remote Voting system that socialists put I couldnt vote here.
I would vote whatever except psoe and podemos
>>78267104
Anything but Podemos. Might vote for VOX.
>>78267104
Not any based right-wing eurosceptic party for whole Spain?
man, you are cucked.
>>78267104
>PP, who has half the party indicted here in Madrid, probably one of the most corrupt governments ever
>PSOE, who ruined the country in their last eight years
>Cs, pro EU and pro TTIP
>PODEMOS, who are butthurt republicans, accepted venezuelan money and literal SJWs
>Vox, meme party with no real policies except stealing Trump's slogan
>>>>>>>>>UPyD
>Falange, old party with no real power anymore
>P-LIB is literally who
>Implying Bildu and the PNV aren the same
>Implying ERC and Convergencia isn't the same shit but with diferent name
Yeah I guess I'll vote PACMA
>>78267822
We have Podemos as the populist party, but they are fucking commies
>>78267182
From what I understand PP are cuckservatives.
>>78267104
PSOE or Cs, haven´t made my mind yet. But I´d be okay if PP won, as long as the Podemos faggots are kept away from power.
>>78267902
The leader of Podemos even said Spain should apologise to Islam for re-conquering Al-Andalus. LOL
>>78267853
GTFO
>>78267822
Yes, falange
>>78267983
Prove me wrong faggot, you know I'm right. There's literally 0 parties worth voting right now.
>>78267182
>>78267214
>>78267438
>>78267720
>>78267815
>>78267853
Whathever you do, do not vote for PP or Ciudadanos.
>>78267853
>PACMA
>Not literal SJWs
>>78267976
Podemos is a massive incongruence
>>78268124
Alternative being?
I agree but atleast vote someone worthy, that could change something
>>78268124
>do not vote for PP or Ciudadanos
Who would we vote? Nicolás Maduro's friends?
>>78267929
What do you do for a living? What is your job?
>>78268149
PSOE or -if you really want another civil war- Podemos.
>>78268124
Why?
>>78268291
>PSOE
top kek
>>78268044
Before you waste your vote, remember, voting for extremist parties is voting for the happening no matter right or left
>>78268201
Maduro is an imbecile but not so much as to give money his country does not have to a political party in another country.
>>78268132
But animals are cute, anon.
>>78268431
Bulls aren't cute, a bull can kill you easily
>>78268291
No one wants a civil war, faggots, and anyway even if Podemos governs I doubt a civil war would happend, Spaniards are to conformist, lazy and accommodated.
>>78268358
Yeah. The only extremist party with some kind of power right now is Podemos, and like it or not our people is SWEDEN YES tier, so that wouldn't go as we like. Voting VOX or Falange would just make people fear "oh noes is Franco all over agains!11!!" and push them even more to the left
Our people is too fucked up buddy.
>>78267104
:^)
>>78268526
Bulls are fun tho
>He never went to San Fermines
>>78268380
Guess who is going to send international aid to Venezuela when they go bankrupt...
>>78268332
Because they do not want to govern for all. Unless you are rich they are not going to make policies that suit you.
>>78267182
>I am voting PP
Ah right, thats how we punish corruption and inefficiency in this country; we promote it by voting them.
Sure, thats the way.
>tfw support catalan independence but hate communism
what do lads?
>>78268698
> Unless you are rich they are not going to make policies that suit you.
Why do you lie?
http://www.invertia.com/noticias/articulo-final.asp?idNoticia=3129122
>>78268672
Definately not us, we are in no condition to help anyone but ourselves.
>>78267853
>P-LIB is literally who
this is the reason we will never have freedom in this country. Everyone is so collectivist that they don't even know what a liberal is and even when they know its usally under the term of "neoliberal" where they will put everything they hate.
>>78267853
>Complaining about SJWs.
>'Yeah I guess I'll vote PACMA'
IF YOU DON'T WANT THOUSANDS UPOND THOUSAND OF RAPEFUGEES VOTE PP.
I know they're corrupt to the core but you're not gonna achieve anything being one of the five people who vote VOX.
But tell me is getting rid of a corrupt party worth turning your country into yet another Eurabian Caliphate? You DON'T want this to be the next France, Germany or Sweden. We already have or fair share of mudslimes, NO MORE. We can survive rampant corruption for another 4 years, but refugee gibsmedats are forever. If PP weakens further, Podemos will win, they will flood Spain with rapefugees and give them "reparations".
Four years more of keeping the ficki ficki out and maybe by the end it won't be a problem anymore.
>>78268773
Drink bleach ;^)
>>78267902
RARE
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>>78267104
>what is spanish /pol/ voting
>falling for the liberalism meme
You already lost.
>>78268616
Implying that Franco was not the best thing that happened to you in the last two centuries.
>>78267104
hey you fucking cuck C's is way more liberal than PP, they're not socialdemocrats they're moderate liberals
>>78268773
Do not support independentism, the only thing it creates is social stress amongst Spaniards and we must remain united if we are to fix our current issues.
>>78268906
It's not that I don't know who they are. The problem is that people doesn't know who they are.
>>78268291
>PSOE
You can't say that acronym without a very lengthy and thoughtfull justification.
>>78267104
Where is Democracia Nacional?
>>78268762
>le corruption maymay
Things are working better now, the situation is improving slowly. Lets see the other big alternatives in corruption:
PSOE: they have the corruption gold medal
Podemos: they have received money from foreign countries and some of their leaders have been involved in corruption scandals (ex: Monedero)
Coalicion Canaria: many corruption cases
Convergencia: Puyol
Falange: all the corruption from Franco era
Cs looks clean, yet...
>>78268932
You do realize that PP isn't the ones holding the refugees up do you? The refugees are the ones who don't come here because they know we don't got money for gibsmedats.
PP caved on the refugee shit already, buddy. Having them in the government again won't work
>>78268773
You are the most progressive place in Europe, it's part of your identity. No other way Pablo!
>>78268932
Do not vote for PP, they DO ALLOW THEM TO COME.
>>78269021
>C's is way more liberal than PP
>He fell for the Cs is liberal meme
They are just social liberals, but not as economic liberalist as PP. Even the guys from Libertarian Party says Cs is not liberal
>>78268616
>VOX
No thank you, we have already a gerontocracy with mutherfucking PP we don't need such a system on steroids.
>Falange
Which one? JONS, autentica... democracia nacional? Like shit, the far right in this country will never achieve ANYTHING by being so fucking separated.
We are doomed, WE ARE ALL DOOMED, run while you still can and leave this shithole to rot.
Fuck it, I'll probably vote for the king. He's probably the most competetent person for the job right now.
Fuck the parties, we Monarquia now
>>78267104
Ezker Abertzalea (EH-Bildu)
>Shill advocating PSOE in this thread
>implying they are not responsible for never ending misery since the death of Franco.
PSOE has doomed us to be a lazy nation of niggers since its conception by the faggot Pablo Iglesias Posse
>>78269095
C's is less clean that Podemos, as the latter obviously could not have receive millions from a fucking piece of shit country with no money whatsoever.
>>78269329
t. De Juana
>>78269261
PP for years has pursued socialist economic policies and failed to lower taxes and make the government smaller. C's promises to do both things and they're far more trustworthy than PP right now
>>78269259
F off shill
>>78267104
Falange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILyQjVpTYSI
>>78269279
You traitor better not forget to vote for someone who is not Vox, PP, Ciudadanos or another meme party.
>>78268932
>IF YOU DON'T WANT THOUSANDS UPOND THOUSAND OF RAPEFUGEES VOTE PP.
>5 euros has been deposited into your account.
PP is a mix of liberals, falangist, catholics, conservatives and mostly pensionists... PP is a clustefuck of ideologies that can never get something done but since people vote them to achieve the less changes as posible it suprisingly does his job.
They will not stop the rapefugees.
They will not stop mezquites.
They will not fix our army.
They will not return our industry.
They're just one of the worst choices you could make.
>>78269290
This
It's sad that here in Spain our meme party is formed by literal commie marxist scum
>>78269407
The funny thing with Venezuela is that it's the same shit that happens with those African "poor" countries
They have money, they just don't use it to help their people.
You know that 7 millions are peanuts for a country, right? And enough to kickstart a far-left movement on another country with a good breeding ground for it.
>>78269329
>Voting people who support the death of people from your region
wew
>>78267822
nope all partys wanaa stay in that shit
>>78269460
What does "shill" mean? Do explain.
>>78269543
>Calls people traitors
>advocates voting for commies and SJWs
Ve a poner la mesa, pablo
>>78269627
Someone paid to shitpost on sites
>>78269154
>>78269259
>>78269544
As I said, the ONLY alternative is Podemos, and with them the refugees will get their gibs, ensuring more will come.
>>78267853
Bildu and PNV aren't the same
Bildu are SJW, PNV aren't
Daily reminder that if you vote, you're Anti-España.
¿Por que hablaís en ingles si aqui practicamente todos somos españoles?
Seguid justificando la corrupción con vuestros votos peperros chupapollas.
>>78269052
>It's not that I don't know who they are
Its a party payed by libertarian international(or something like that) to reintroduce libertarian ideas in Spain. The problem is obvious, people do not want to be responsible for their money or free in any regard.
And even P-lib is not completly libertarian, they added "univresal healthcare" in their party program and some things like that.
>>78269597
Why would they not use their money in their people who desperatly need it?
And why would they be interested in creating their movement parties in countries that would never help them?
>>78269689
>the ONLY alternative is Podemos
IF the only alternative is Podemos, then we already lost and might as well burn it all to the ground to start again.
Vote for the king
>>78269674
I seriously do not believe anyone has ever been paid to post in this awful place. At least, I hope so.
>>78269753
el psoe es tan corrupto y mas, gilipollas.
y podemos puede estar tan limpio como quieras que no se puede dar de lo que no se tiene, esto va a ser venezuela
>>78269863
This, press the reset button.
>>78269753
>implying posters are from Spain
There is no Spain. Spain was created, in basic terms, to fight the moor and make an España independent, powerful, protector of christianism and Europe... Now the country has millions of moors, the people support the EU, there are more people asking for refugees than people rejecting it. The youth is full of marxists self-hating faggots who believes Franco was evil and thats the only history that counts, they are going to voye for Podemos and they will win. They promote race mixing, hate their ascendency, believe the black legend, etc etc.
To me, this country can burn to ashes, there is no more Spain.
>>78269095
>Things are working better now, the situation is improving slowly. Lets see the other big alternatives in corruption:
PP has done NOTHING to solve corruption problems, has done nothing to solve the economic crisis, and will do NOTHING to solve either of those things.
They're politicians, politicians hate taking desitions which is their only job.
And let me tell you that the corruption is no improving, is being contained in the media, which is very diferent, since PP is clearly controling the media(TVE,A3media, Prisa...) and making sure that the only thing people talk is about Pdr snchz stupidty or Venezuela, or shit like that.
PPSOE is a corrupt system that should die.
>>78268773
>supports Catalan independence
kys
>>78269797
are you 14?
please return to plebbit until you mature
>>78269753
Asegúrate de convencer al máximo número posible de personas que puedes de que voten.
>>78267104
Do you guys really have self-professed Marxist parties openly and they have an active role in government? That is unfathomable here in the US.
>implying CPUSA counts, they are a fringe party that maybe 5% of the population has even heard of let alone vote for
>>78269755
They want to privatize healthcare
>4.4.3.1. Sanidad, educación y otros servicios. El P-LIB propone
privatizar (es decir, devolver a la sociedad civil) el sistema
educativo y sanitario y los demás servicios públicos, salvo
aquellos que forman parte inherente de las tareas del Estado:
registros, mantenimiento del orden público y algunos otros. Las
organizaciones de la sociedad civil encargadas de gestionar la
sanidad, la educación y otros servicios pueden ser lucrativas
(empresas de todo tipo, incluyendo cooperativas) o no lucrativas
(fundaciones, ONG, etc.). Corresponde a sus fundadores decidir
cómo desean organizarse.
>>78269797
>in creating their movement parties in countries that would never help them
how can you be so sure of that?
>>78269753
Para que el resto de 4chan pueda leer sobre la situación en España y enterarse y opinar.
Bastante tenemos con la mitad de /pol/ dando soporte al independentismo.
>>78269941
Its not his fault, the jew has always supported the independentism in Spain. From their mass media calling ETA "freedom fighters" to the rich jews in Israel giving money to the catalonian independentism.
>>78268203
Nutricionista autónomo en consulta propia
>>78269797
>Why would they not use their money in their people who desperatly need it?
Jeez oh man why would a corrupt government not care about their people and only about filling their pockets
>And why would they be interested in creating their movement parties in countries that would never help them?
One of the basic things about communism is that you need the world being communist because it can't compete against capitalist economies.
The thing here is, we as the ""Motherland"" have a good push on our former colonies, we usually moderate their crisis and whatnot. If you want to influence the Hispanosphere, you have to start with us.
>>78270008
Thats why I'm going to your country, to watch spain inevitably crumble and to rule over the spics once again
>>78269926
We need more love towards Spain to spread spanish nationalism, not what you do.
>>78269933
>PP controling Prisa
Take a look at who runs that...
>>78270050
>They want to privatize healthcare
Which is something for which I won't cry over the night.
It is time for me to choose what to do with my money, when to espend, when to save it and how to do both. Thats a form of freedom we don't know yet.
>>78269753
>Oh, ¿por que la gente habla en inglés en un sitio en el que se habla en inglés?
/Lat/ confirmado
>>78267104
Let me fix that for you
PP
>The shit you know
PSOE
>The other shit you know
C's
>PP youth
PODEMOS
>Socialism for the masses with 0% real socialism
Vox
>Franco's groupies
UPyD
>Not relevant anymore
Everyone else
>Literally who?
>voting
>in Spain
>2016
>>78270089
God I hope not. Because if the jews were interested in them to achieve their independentism they will totally will.
>>78270164
>>78269933
Mediaset is one big jewish socialist shill net, they're propping up podemos very successfuly
>>78270159
>spanish nationalism
Not such thing. Spanish nationalism died in the 75, after that is foreign interest above spanish interests. Also you can't be nationalism from a natiin that doesnt exist anymore. Face it, we are a minority of a minority.
>>78270242
Yes yes, I am like you. The country where I am currently (see flag) living has that. I am hardly paying taxes, I spend my money as how I want
>>78269753
Venga mugremita de vuelta a twitter y fb.
>>78270343
Is not a secret bro, is well known.
>>78270091
Do not vote for PP, UPYD, Ciudadanos, Vox or independentist parties.
>>78270164
Juan Luis Cebrián he isn't a jew
>>78270008
Welcome to this shithole.
>>78270363
How's life in the islands? Do you have all the commodities you would have here?
>>78270363
Working or living there?
>>78270449
>every single spain thread
>>78270449
Y vota a psoe no pedazo de guarro? Partido que ha robado miles de millones PÚBLICOS, o Izquierda Unida otro partido corrupto? Solo os acordáis de la corrupción del PP que hizo chanchullos con dinero privado. Así de mierda sois traidores hijos de puta. Sois todos la misma escoria. Ojalá los moros que vais a meter en el país te enculen hasta que te desangres.
>>78270503
He isnt, but Prisa is PSOE shill media
>>78267104
P-lib
>>78270707
¿Era necesario insultarme sin motivo? Si te hubiera dicho que votases al PSOE entonces sí me lo merecería pero no dije eso.
>>78269926
Exactly this. Vox and purposedly "patriotics" are just the same old liberlism dressed as españolismo. PP and C'S are pure cancer. Burn it down so it can be redone from scratch.
>>78270449
I´m Basque and I´m perfectly okay with most of PNVs policies. But as I said I´m between Cs or PSOE. If I want a usefull vote I´d go for PSOE, but if I vote for the best program I´d go for Cs.
>>78270709
He fired a leftist journalist for all that shit of Panama Papers, perhaps redpilled.
>>78270728
When they say Libertarian, do they mean by the burger definition or the european one?
I assume by the colors and the torch they mean burger libertarianism but that is unusual that they'd call themselves that instead of liberal over in europe.
>>78270707
No insultes a personas que están en tu bando, ¿por qué quieres crear desunión?
>>78270877
There are no useful votes
>democracy meme
Just vote C's if you like them, they're big enough to make a "difference"
>>78270877
coincido pero no votes a ciudadanos que nos quiere quitar el concierto economico los muy taraos
>>78270570
Yes, I have all, its more expensive than in Spain, but since I dont pay taxes (hardly) living is cheaper. Life is quite calm in general, and the crime is not as big as in other american countries so I feel quite safe.
>>78270609
Both, I spend 4-5 months here, then 2-3 in Spain, 4-5 here and so on.
>>78271005
>When they say Libertarian, do they mean by the burger definition or the european one?
American definition.
If I recall well they're trying to bring some parts of the US economic model to Spain and they're financed externally by the liberal international.
And since most people don't have a clear understanding of what really means any of both terms you can use them as you see fit. In this case, they would rather avoid the term liberal because its associated with CEOs trying to avoid taxes and they try to avoid the term neoliberal because its a political death sentence.
Libertarian sounds more "young" and "fair".
>>78270916
He fired Escolar, who is a Podemos shill
>>78268616
>SWEDEN YES tier
Where the fuck do you live? Barcelona? Madrid? Everywhere else seems to hate SWJ like shit. Compared to Germany and Sweden at least. We are not that cucked.
Voting Vox or PP. Commies could go fuck themselves and would probably like it.
>>78269926
>>78270842
God fucking damn it. That bad? REALLY?
>>78271205
Basque Privilege should be removed from the constitution.
>>78271005
it's complicated, in spain libertario means libertarian but it has connotations of south american revolutionaries like Castro because they used that word.
Liberal however has the connotation of being anti conservative socially but not necessarily economicaly liberal
>>78271306
He said he does not have anything to do with Podemos as he is impartial.
>>78268870
Yet every party wants to take the 20 thousand ”"""""refugees""""""
>>78270449
>>78270825
be more subtle commie scum
>>78271005
They want to change the meaning of libertarian, also want dumb marxist kids to vote for them by mistake (ain't working tough).
So yes p-lib is like the LP, im tired of all that social justice but whatever if they win and people can defense themselves, and no food-stamps, even with open borders we can kick niggers ass.
>>78271421
>eldiario.es
>Not Podemos BOE
Which party has Hacer España Grande Otra Vez (Make Spain Great Again) as slogan?
I swear I seen't it
>>78267853
if you vote PACMa you need to die, son
>>78271534
Vox.
They stole the slogan without remorse or anything.
>>78271444
You are probably a disgusting communist traitor that votes for PSOE and hates Spain and the flag, imbecile.
I ain't voting but wish someone could please nuke us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6teyjozalyI
>>78271421
Nachosco??? Neutral towards podemos???
And you ask in 4chan what shill means...
You are a FUCKING Child or extremly stupid.
>>78271293
>they would rather avoid the term liberal because its associated with CEOs trying to avoid taxes
That is hilarious because over here it means that *exact* opposite, just like the term Libertarian.
>>78271534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSIX4-RPAI
>>78271534
In you dreams, is all faggotland here
>>78271421
He's obviously leftist, like most of the journalist of ElPais, SER
what is a "Spain" exactly ?
didn't you used to be a ship building company a few hundred years ago or something?
>>78268698
I'm rich and PP fucking sucks, you really should not vote this time, m8
>>78271591
That's not a slogan to steal
It's for the West to use and spread freedom
My vote.
>>78267104
>THE REASON AS TO WHY NOT TO VOTE FOR CIUDADANOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljsYffpaiw
>>78271642
I think that shift happened around 1960 when the democratic party stole the term liberal for their own agenda and the liberals were left with libertarian.
At least I think, I read that in the libertarian manifesto so I would take that with a grain of salt.
>>78271793
que poca gracia tiene la pobre narradora
>>78271601
Do not forget to vote, not voting helps the parties you do not want to win.
>>78271592
>Do not vote for PP, UPYD, Ciudadanos, Vox or independentist
>You are probably a disgusting communist traitor that votes for PSOE and hates Spain
you are either the worst shill i have ever seen or some kind of edgy teenager, pathetic anyway
>>78271705
>what is a "Spain" exactly ?
The union of two kingdoms that were defeated by muslims and took back what they lost.
>didn't you used to be a ship building company a few hundred years ago or something?
The spanish military was the most advanced and powerfull of his time thanks to the colonial gold from America.
MSR is the only right answer for Spain
>>78271617
A periodist should ALWAYS be impartial you dullard.
>>78271705
arent you guys a shitty old prison colony/desert that is now completely owned by the chinese?
GUYS REMBEMBER, she is the reason for not voting PP, the other is the fag that they've.
>>78271205
Hace mucho que retiraron de su programa la eliminación del concierto. Si lo hubiesen mantenido, ni me plantearía votarles.
>>78267104
Spain is a monarchy, so pretty much they all suck monarchy cum and on top of that EU dicks, same shit as Sweden.
>>78272054
What should be and what is are very different things.
How old are you? Honest question
>>78269162
>>>78268773
>You are the most progressive place in Europe, it's part of your identity. No other way Pablo!
>>78269162
Mmm, no? "Catalan identity" has been a literal forgery since about 200 years ago. Our supposed "progressivism" only applies if you abide to some false base assumptions; good luck if you disagree with the official "history" in public
quick guide to the elections:
PP: corrupted to the bone, half its ranks in court
PSOE: begging for power like a whore, they just sold their big headquarters, I'm loving it.
C': too much coke, seriously, go to rehab now.
Podemos: working hard to bring 1984 home
Nationalists: bunch of retards convincing other retards.
Good side, there is NO FUCKING WAY there's be a government, so, so far, so good, keep it this way in eternum.
>>78271363
Not bad, or good, it just lacks of any sustance. This country is just a joke without purpose.
If any of you guys are from Madrid please vote VOX. If they get there just 3% of the vote Santiago Abascal will be deputy. Don't fuck this up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crNY9osFHlg
Just a reminder that if you vote PSOE you are literally crazy.
>>78271649
Eso si que estaba bien escrito. Sentí el freedom y el orgullo desde acá
>>78272332
Parece que tiene lefazos en la cara.
>>78272425
Actually if you vote you are crazy. Wish we had a Le Pen
>>78272173
says the Chinese man posting from new leaf china land.
and no before you ask we are full.
>>78272027
so what happened man? how did you fall ?
>>78272327
Man this country is GREAT, the main problem being ourselves telling ourselves we suck.
>>78272027
>I've learnt my History in the Logse
>>78271394
if you do it separatism in basque country will grow, really you wana have 2 fronties with catalonians and basques? quite stupid.
>>78272536
It's difficult when everyone is your enemy. EVERYONE.
At least we survived some centuries as a great empire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJH5idkZkXs
>>78272479
>>78272541
We don't, but vote Vox if only to encourage other patriots to appear
>Is on /pol/
>not voting far right
Get out.
>>78268932
C's at least doesn't want to give them advantadges above the over-tax-paying locales, mostly regarding healthcare, but the Podemos shills will say that this is equal to leave them dying in the streets
>>78272536
The gold had two sides to it: several bankruptcies and hellish inflation set back the country in many ways.
There were many factors contributing to the fall of the spanish empire, I wouldn't be able to summarize them all correctly here
>>78271336
Madrid, of course
I want off this ride
Daily reminder that Podemos has fallen for intersectional feminism, wich is the biggest threat to our freedom right now
>>78272707
i must learn more about this.
everyone is your enemy? just tell everyone else to get fucked and glass them. . . works for us
peace out unknown country bro
>>78272658
>implying that I dont want separatism grow in Spain
>implying Catalonia and Basque Country will be Independent only just nationalist parties won elections
>>78271790
>>78271793
THE REASON AS TO WHY NOT TO VOTE FOR CIUDADANOS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WljsYffpaiw [Embed]
>>78271336
>Everywhere else seems to hate SWJ like shit
Not in Bildutopia, but don't worry, they made their own mad and are going to be BTFO next round.
>>78271440
I just heard that from Podemos and PSOE.
The others didn't say a thing about it.
I voted for the communist Pablo Iglesias once. I regretted it.
>>78272025
No because you are wrong, I am not either of those things. In any case, you are.
> people here are not accelerationists
> they don't vote for Podemos
> they wanna vote for "boiling the frog slowly"
> they don't even vote Vox
>>78272605
Taking into account the barbarian invasions of the Roman empire, saying that the visigoths were spanish is like saying that the Japanese are chinese.
>tfw no vox in catalonia
Reeee
>>78272752
So many mugremitas in this thread.
>>78272992
>blaming the heteropatriarchate for orlando and equating the shooting with a case of a woman dying without saying how
Guys, say hello to your very much potential viceprez
I was going to vote IU but with Podemos nope
>>78273223
You have based Albiol
>>78269446
This. When autonomous worker taxes are reduced to an european level, then the working class will be owner of his life again (provided that the current generation of crybabies accept the responsibility, of course)
>>78273223
Just vote Convergencia.
>>78273193
We have to the conclusion that over the decades, this country has been voting always for the "utilitarian" vote or the "lesser evil" vote, and both philosophies has reck this country to pieces.
So fuck it, I will not participate in the voting system. The error is not in who you vote but in actually voting any of the options under these conditions.
>>78269753
this is what's wrong with most spanish people I met on the internet tbqh
>>78272250
Legally there can not be a fourth round of elections.
>>78273307
>IU
>>78273223
No jodas, hacia poco me habia decidido por votarles.
Supongo que aun podras votar lo que quieras, o no se presentan directamente y no habra papeletas en ningun lado?
>>78272536
>how did you fall ?
We didn't.
>>78273363
What if they don't decide it the third time?
The king takes over?
>>78272250
>C': too much coke, seriously, go to rehab now.
Explain yourself.
>>78273211
¡Hola, eterna Anti-España!
>>78272992
>which is the biggest threat to our freedom right now
>what is TTIP
>what is TPP
>what is 'ley mordaza'
>what is the senate
retard
>>78273307
> IU
for wat purpose?
>>78269088
>>>78267104 (OP)
>Where is Democracia Nacional?
>>78269088
We don't need neo-Franquists. What we would need is a spaniard Pegida.
>>>78272250 (You)
>Legally there can not be a fourth round of elections.
WTF? Please elaborate on that,>>78273363
>>78273528
Franco will rise from his tomb and exterminate all the commies
>>78273348
People can understand us without the need of using a translator
>>78267438
>>78267214
>>78267182
>Terrorist party
Mis kekes.
>>78273307
Then vote for IU.
>>78273601
>We don't need neo-Franquists. What we would need is a spaniard Pegida.
People in this thread seem to think they are the same
Why is Spain so damn left-wing?
>>78269926
>>78270559
>>78270842
>>78272327
All this thread is so fuckin depressing. Maybe it's true what I read today that we really are defeatists and exaggerated
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2016/06/22/actualidad/1466609349_711119.html
>>78273681
yes, I know. But españoles here, in online games, etc etc, have a tendency to start speaking spanish asap
Daily reminder than Juan carlos the cuck ruined this country.
>>78273347
Wrong. Not voting helps PP.
>>78273573
1- TTP has nothing to do with us
2- TTIP will give more freedom to our corportions, specially the smaller and medium ones (the big ones dont need a reduce of duties to compete outside)
3- Read Ley Mordaza and then come here and tell us why is bad, which it isnt
4- The senate is completely democratic, you can vote whoever you want on it
Friendly reminder that every party in Spain is a Jew party.
- PP: cuckservatives that only care for pensionists, even though they've been raping the pension fund hard these years. Started mass immigration and Rajoy increased 70% the immigrant gibsmedat budget for 2016 (http://www.elmundo.es/grafico/economia/2015/08/04/55c096abca47412f7d8b457f.html). Pretty corrupt too, though I guess it's just because they've had power, every other party has done similar things where they've governed.
- PSOE: average euro social-democrat mainstream cuck party. However they're dead even if they don't know it yet, now their only support is on Asturias, Andalucía and Extremadura because of past and present pork barrel and clientelism (early retired miners, fraudulent unemployment benefits among agro "workers"...)
- C's: the only ones with a more or less clear project for Spain, too bad their good intentions are outdated (liberal centrist parties in Europe are pretty much a thing of the past, they're some decades late), and they're good goys when it comes to immigration/globalization/etc.
- Podemos/IU: meme party without true ideals, they're simply postmodern self-hating cucks who spout literal tumblr garbage and probably are literal cuckold themselves, after all they're ironically eager fans of all this mentally ill new leftist thought from America.
Not relevant parties:
- "Nationalists" who don't deserve that name because they're mostly corrupts or cucks who only care about money and want to fill their region with third worlders like in Catalonia and Basque Country.
- España 2000/DN/etc: mostly composed of idiots and people without real virtue and honor, also zero chance of winning.
Conclusion: it's hopeless and there's no good option. If you want to contribute to a political change just talk to your acquaintances about /pol/ thoughts (you can slip comments, joke around, etc.), spread facts and opinion on YouTube/news comments/blogs/forums/etc.
>>78273343
Never vote for independentists.
Civil War 2.0 when?
>>78273019
>everyone is your enemy? just tell everyone else to get fucked and glass them. . . works for us
For 200-330 years(depends on what you count as Spanish empire) this empire looked like it came from the 40k universe. There was no peace, only war and people waiting to be able to do war(first the french, then the british, like they were taking turns). Every single year the spanish empire defended catholicism against the Turk and protestant engangin in epic battles against both in land and sea but at the same time never being capable of ending any of those. This resulted in a profesional voluntary army, of well payed soldiers... so well payed that they increased inflation for gold in Spain and turned everything into ruins.
These wars weren't made for the empire, but for the glory of the Austria house first and then the borbon house, a constant conflict that required constant sacrifice of people, time, will and resources to achieve nothing but more conflict until one of those runs out first(money in this case).
So with time, the spanish empire ended up exhausted and incapable of properly defenind itself while at the same time their enemies advanced and reorganiced in much better military structures that could overpass them. This time of degeneracy was met with some heroes and resistance(Blas de Lezo) but ultimately resulted in the total and unargueable end of the spanish empire in 1898 with the lost of Cuba and philipines)
>>78269740
>not voting santiago, isabel and fernando
REY NO-MUERTO Y ETERNO.
LA MANO DE DIAS ENVFRENTE DE LA CABALLERIA.
IMPERIO DEL MAL ETERNO
>>78273909
TPP*
>>78269652
>>>78269543
>>Calls people traitors
>>advocates voting for commies and SJWs
>Ve a poner la mesa, pablo
>>78269652
Sadly, calling traitor to anyone who dissagrees has become the universal mindset here. Jokes about an impending civil war are less funny each day...
Gotta collect them all.
>>78273902
And voting helps the other parties, that shouldn't win.
Its a lose-lose situation.
>>78273556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w35hKBJRM0s
>>78270247
UNA VELA PA
>>78267853
Literally a meme vote son. Better vote UPyDead.
>>78273573
>implying TTIP, TTP, "ley mordaza" and the seante are more dangerous than 3rd wave feminism.
Are you 13 years old or just an illiterate mongoloid?
If Podemos arrives to the government, where do you are going to move?
I don't want to live in a Sweden tier country.
>>78273062
Vete a engañar a otros, chupapollas del pablemos
>>78274099
Rumania, WTF are you doing?!
>>78273307
>IU
They always were more commie, feminist, SJW and mudlovers than Podemos.
Ok, you boosted animals, find a hot girl in every major party and try to buy my vote with that girl.
BTW, I´m so going for Ines Arrimadas.
>>78274145
Its the average Podemita, they repeat the same 3-5 lies their glorious leader tells them until it becomes an axiom
>>78273062
>>78273573
>Implying "patriarchy" meme and "gender ideology" is anything but another artificial cultural engineering made by the globalist to further watering our identity so we can more easily accept all these things you mention
>>78273852
How can one be defeatist if Spain has been defeated since at last mid 19th? And Franco, literally the one good thing we had in the last century, is politically correct to assume he was worse than shit. You've already been defeated and you're just playing by their rules and assuming their idelogical framework without even realize it.
>>78273964
¿De dónde ese ese himno? No me suena nada, suena bonito.
>>78274380
Only Cuñadanos bruh
>>78274155
I'm moving to the US if Trump wins, if the emperor loses I will move to a "redpilled" european country
>>78274343
How can a communist be feminist and SJW?
If Good ´ol Ulianov raised from the grave...
>>78267104
Your elections don't make a lot of difference. You're slaves to the EU. Your most important laws are decided in Brussels.
>>78274343
IU at least had a base of old school retired miners/ Naval workers and PERistas who gave a shit about the heteropatriarchy
Podemos has been full of tumblr rainbow hiar humanities students since its inception.
>>78274487
>Cuñadanos
A term created by our great leader; Pablo Iglesias to memetize the opostion into submission.
>>78274221
Romania is the highest employed worker in EU, because cheap.
>>78267104
VOX
I'm catholic, they are my only option.
>>78274106
Nice loop there. Also anxiety.
>>78274592
Jean-François knows best
>>78274519
The communists of today are the total opposite of what they were, if not, nobody would vote for them.
They are ecologists, feminists, animalists, pro-LGBT, activists and other sort of crap
>>78273681
>franco
Actually the king summons from heaven all other kongs and they become the superking
>>78269926
>>78269926
When we have an Islamic party here (and I would bet that it will happen first in Catalonia), then they will react. Sadly it will be too late.
