What type of government, theoretical or not, is optimal? Please provide detail if you'd like.
How can we ever account for every variable humanity may produce and factor it into a system of government?
Are we doomed to the cyclical rise and fall of civilizations as long as we are human?
How can we break free of this cycle?
>>78242822
clan system
There is enough land, enough able hands and enough resources on this rock to ensure each and every one of us lives like kings. Science is going to grow us newer, better organs when our shitty, used up ones wear out. Technology is exploding at an exponential rate, the likes of which mankind has never seen before. The first person to live to be 200 is alive today.
Honestly? Marxism transitioning into egalitarianism on a unilateral, global scale, then everyone leaves each other the fuck alone. Forever.
>>78242893
How will you prevent domination of groups over others?
How will this not inevitably grow into a hierarchical system of government, perhaps an oligarchy?
>>78243296
>How will you prevent domination of groups over others?
you dont
>How will this not inevitably grow into a hierarchical system of government, perhaps an oligarchy?
it will, the strongest win, might makes right
>>78243218
Why do humans not leave eachother alone right now?
Is that the trajectory Marxism is currently on?
Will technology being peace to the world?
>>78243801
So the 'mighty' are currently ruling over us, are they right?
Is the current system the optimal one?
How is it different from your proposed system?
>>78243820
>I ask the important questions
>>78243801
>might makes right
the dumbest people tend to be mighty and tyrannical, so I don't see how what they believe in is right
>>78243994
the US didnt evolve from a clan system
>>78243820
Technology is like a pacifier. It numbs the masses against the often nasty, brutish and short lives we all tend to lead. Marxism, in practice, would be difficult if not impossible to implement without some sort of massive paradigm shift in the collective psyche of a very entitled, very self involved populace.
>>78242822
Absolute aristocracy. LOGH.
>>78243218
>There is enough land, enough able hands and enough resources on this rock to ensure each and every one of us lives like kings.
WE
>>78242822
>What type of government, theoretical or not, is optimal?
Patriarchy
Republican Government where only Male head of household with minimum education and income gets a vote
>>78242822
No government at all. There needs to be fully libtardian world so roads would rot and breake and free market could fix it by inventing bikocopters - 1 person helicopter "fueled" be legs power, just like bike.
We can build a system that relies on hate and anger instead of love and peace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_five_regimes
Magic machine that picks the best person to lead
2ez
>>78244747
What would these vehicles be made of?
Is the current government suppressing bikocopters?
A government of, by, and for the people it protects.
>>78243820
>Will technology being peace to the world?
How naïve are you exactly
>>78244986
>What would these vehicles be made of?
stuff
>Is the current government suppressing bikocopters?
yes
>>78243801
The problem with this is that it will inevitably end with only one clan in the end. So globalism again. Do you support one world government?
>>78242822
The one that
A. Gets rid of Leftists
B. Is capitalist
C. Starts the idea that every nation is great in their own way
D. Allows for non-toxic ideas to be expressed and allows the Human race as a whole to advance without wars.
All in all, it'd start out as Pinochetism, then go to something similar to Libertarianism except not a bunch of pussies. Probably an Oligarchy
>>78244747
that's called Somalianism my friend
>>78245259
>So globalism again.
exactly
Do you support one world government?
its inevitable, so why not use the natural selection method?
>>78245105
Just still learning
>>78242822
Philosophically, the best form of government is the one that harms the average citizen the least (original position). Notice the "average" term being used here. Under a utilitarian government the upper class, wealthy citizens of that government would suffer more, far more, than the poor by sheer virtue of existing on an unbounded upward curve of "privileges that can be taken away."
Pragmatically, it is important to understand that in the real world the vast majority of mankind merely exists to consume resources ("the pursuit of happiness" is perhaps the most kind way of putting this). A utilitarian government would essentially crush the minority of society interested in pursuing other goals.
>>78242822
Anarcho-capitalism in a world where everyone is perfectly nice, generous and responsible while still upholding the competitive spirit of the free market. That, or some kind direct-democracy post-scarcity utopia.
Slightly more realistically? I'm a centrist, so I'd say a "ship-in-a-bottle" government. Basically, the government is the stand, the free market society is the ship, and there exists law for the two not to interact directly apart from anti-corruption/legal business practice legislation i.e. the bottle. The governments job is to support an environment where the free market can exist, as well as to slightly limit what kind of stuff can flow in and out of it via tariffs and regulation to preserve a national market (the neck of the bottle being thinner then the rest in this example). Basically a country where Government and Economy are separated and regulated by minimalistic Law. For instance, government officials would be allotted equal campaign funds out of taxpayer money, none of this fundraising crap. Their job is to debate policy and national direction, not take favors. Lobbying needs to die in a fire, it's not the governments job to preserve business; only to maintain a system in which the free market is possible.
>He doesn't even support a homogeneous authoritarian leaning state with an open, free market capitalist economy
>>78244146
But it still has roughly the same outcome as places that evolved from clan systems.
>>78244588
le middle ages man
Anyway. It seems that governments become worse and worse as scale grows larger and larger. So, to fix this, there would be groups of x number of people which would form a nation.
You would have basically small counties that are now countries.
The old countries would essentially be subdivided into smaller countries. Countries could ally, but not form a larger country.
Government system doesn't really matter but probably should be democracies. I'm thinking that other governments would fall by the wayside like we've seen in our history.
With the smaller populations, representation would be better, and populations would be more homogeneous.
>>78245058
So, a government smaller than one of a city state?
>>78242822
Tyranny with a benevolent ruler, free of fault.
>>78245298
>Oligarchy
>Good
>>78245259
Yes, eventually, as it will be necessary once we expand outwards from the planet.
>>78242822
>What type of government, theoretical or not, is optimal?
Ravnica-tier...oligarchy, I guess. Basically the 9 (or 10) guilds run everything.
>>78242822
Meritocratic oligarchy with the most accomplished scientists and engineers as the ruling elite
