How come millennials are poor?
Coconut water bottles are expensive.
>>78240994
They don't know what to do with their money and waste it on a useless degree in college.
>>78241076
Tattoos and piercings are pricey too!
>>78240994
Thirty years of Reaganomics.
>>78240994
There's literally little to no career prospects for a major in "Women's Studies".
I'm a millennial, not poor.
>>78240994
They hate hard work and no one teaches you how to invest or start a business.
>>78241283
This is the correct answer.
because they bitch a lot and make up excuses
source: this thread
>shit education planning (Bad degrees, going to college because 'you have to'
>don't know how to plan monetarily
>spend money on useless shit (Starbucks everyday, apple products, eat out a lot)
>don't know how to be poor in general (buy rice, bulk food, etc)
>>78240994
It's not that we are poor. We just can't place a find to settle because housing costs so much
>inb4 lazy millenial
That's true to some extent for a lot of us but people that are going to ivy's and going to great school still have hard time settling in. It's kinda difficult.
We're born into poor families
Capitalism.
>>78240994
Boomers fucked all of us over.
>>78240994
Obamacare
>>78241427
senpai i work in the oil patch and im poor, 22 years old. LOW OIL PRICES HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH WORK IM GETTING.... kidding 2 years ago i was making 60k, now i bet i wont even make 30k this year.
>>78240994
they dont work. they just stay in school forever.
>>78241345
No shit Ahmed, they hand everything to you.
They want free shit, but more importantly they feel they are entitled.
>>78241660
Nice memes
>didn't go to college
>scrupulous with money
>never gone to Starbucks or bought apple products in my life, eat out maybe 3 times a year
Gulag yourself.
baby boomers fucked up the economy, and don't retire, pushing people out of the job market.
our jobs are becoming automatized and require less workers, but more people keep getting born or immigrate.
>>78240994
soe a shit
sheever a best
Because baby boomers destroyed the economy and the only job "growth" are shitty, part time and in the service sector.
>>78240994
simple, they're lazy.
>>78241094
>>78241195
>>78241283
>>78241427
pretty much
>>78241076
because water is for degenerates, it comes from the toilet? what are you cindy a toilet person? gawwwd
no but really, millenials aren't all poor, some have daddy and mumsy's money to pay their rent till their mid 30s and have all those support systems, but they'll only end up pink collar or whatever, you know, living in the guesthouse, driving a BMW but still flipping burgers.
there aren't any jobs because well, you weren't brought up to negotiate, now it's an automatic dealbreaker in the interview, where back in the day they'd sya "you know what? i fucken like this guy, he's got the right sutff, rye or burbon?" now its batch-hires to the lowest bidder, and any meaningful position is being held by long tenured employees, depending on the company,
made 18$ an hour for the last 8 months? hope you haven't fallen for the targeted advert racket buying onesies and pokemon cards because guess what? you're going to be on welfare for 2 years.because you're now overqualified for the position and underqualified for a career.
>>78241283
There's no career prospects anywhere. There's "tech" jobs that only seem to exist online and people wanna commit sudoku by the time they're 27. At this point i think jobs are memes. literally every person i know under 30 is unemployed or makes less than 15 an hour.
>>78242081
This
Nobody I know is happy or making above 15 dollars.
It's not that they were lazy, they've been hard workers their entire life, they're stingy smart people. But in this market they just get fucked .
Most people have withdrawn come society or taken low pay jobs that make them want to die
And yes they're STEM and interned
>>78242077
>all that shit
millennials give themselves the illusion of being poor because they cant afford expensive high end things like luxury cars or an apartment in the middle of the city.
30 years ago, fresh graduates suffer just to get food on the table. rent is cheap sure, but life in general didnt get easier until theyre in their 30's
Most Americans are poor and don't even own their cardbox houses. Failed state.
>>78242081
sounds about right.
worst part is everyone is playing ostrich with it and asks from the top down "so why don't you have a job yet?"
>that's still a thing?
but yeah, simple, you generally have to be an actual, literal dick sucker, and a scheming pile of shit, like that mincy cunt from mad men, rather than like, be actually good at your job, you have to role play like some fucking soap opera.
and if you get a real man's job breaking stones or something, well, you're going to go broke on muscle relaxants and you're going to get scrawny not buff, and every now and then some middle aged, balding manlet forman who is likely fucking your highschool crush and your girl next door is probably got some insecurities about his fleeting masculinity and andropause and will go off on a red-faced "this work ain't good enough" veins in neck bullshit.
>>78242355
STEM is a meme.
We need to get rid of capitalism, automate as much as possible and share the rewards. There's no sane reason to work long hours in the 21st century, it's just capitalism requires it to squeeze profit from the workers.
>>78240994
Prices of stuff and anything in general are increased by inflation and greedy corporations, while salaries are way, way smaller.
ALSO, most millenials tend to jump from job to job, instead of keeping a good steady job, making a career and gaining experience and skills for a better position and raises.
>>78241683
>housing costs so much
It really depends on place here in Mexico, houses got smaller and cheaper, you can get a house for $15,000, but they are usually 2 small rooms and 1 bathroom and 1 living room/kitchen, back then like 20 years ago, we had big houses but the cheapest ones were like $70,000.
>>78242081
>There's no career prospects anywhere.
That's not true man I make 80k, which is fine even after my high cost of living. I mean sure I'm 27 and wish I was dea-
>There's "tech" jobs that only seem to exist online and people wanna commit sudoku by the time they're 27
Fuck
>>78240994
What does millennial mean? I keep seeing Americans use it here often.
>>78242006
>genuine beauty vs goblin
Ill fucking cut you
>>78242567
We all can't take a boat and cross the Mediterranean and walk to Germany for free shit Ahmed.
>>78242358
maybe in malaysia.
here i'm pretty sure food wasn't an issue, maybe parts and pieces, but luxury items were, whatever it was the "iphone 6" of the day, (probably an RCA colour tv) was like 8 times the price. replacement tires, chocolate, oranges, stuff like that.
still I've found myself more than once literally suffering from malnutrition.
>>78240994
Yeaaaaaa.
The generation of the Ipad. Fuck you OP
>>78242705
Everyone who was born with a computer or a cellphone, Mostly everyone born in the 90's or after that (Some people might argue that people born in 80's classify as millenials too)
>>78242705
birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s
Though some others suggest it stops around 94/95 since some of the kids don't remember before 9/11 as much.
>>78240994
Because they blow their fucking money on bullshit rave concerts and go to them dressed like fucking fairies and nymphs and stupid shit like that.
Earlier meme answer aside, for the vast majority of us, the American Dream of old is gone.
Gone are the days where you could work a factory job out of high school and raise a family, take vacations and the like. Gone are the days where dating involved a chocolate malt followed by a car ride down to Makeout Point.
We don't get that shit, because Boomer McFuckstein saw it fitting to piss on what their parents taught them. The state of affairs with the millennial generation, moving forward, is grim. Hell most of my socializing comes from talking to you faggots here. The world ain't appealing.
Tempted to get a shack and fuck off to the middle of nowhere or go innawoods.
>>78242928
and who funded the Ipda? who owns the patents? factories? shares? who profits from every unit sold?
>justin bieber
who signed his deal? who makes 94% of his revenue?
>>78242952
So it's a keyword - why is OP generalizing it then?
>>78242971
96 here so based on what you say - I'm excluded.
>>78242768
those people are there because capitalism and imperialism destroyed their countries.
>>78243079
Can't say I blame you. I don't even know how to talk to anyone in person or keep a convo going anymore.
>>78242763
>not wanting tall aryan ubermensch children
nigga have you seen her lately? she grew out of her "wtf" phase somehow
>>78241518
/thread
>>78240994
Millennials are confirmed faggots. They are worst generation ever. They created this sjw feminist nu-male nightmare of a culture. They deserve to starve broke and jobless in the streets for their sins.
>>78242864
back then luxury items like a color tv are something people would only dream of
these days its something that everyone must own.
people actually got richer as time moves on.
remember back then when your parents didnt buy you junk foods or visits to McD? because tasty food was fucking expensive back then. sure double cheeseburgers costs 1 dollar in 1990 but people made much less money as well.
being poor in the modern day is just an illusion. NEETs exists in hordes, imagine that.
>be 20 caucasian male
>be training people to do my job
>people usually take 30-40 min for their first tasks when being trained, some an hour
>nigger takes 2 1/2 hours for his first task
>have to go to break hour before break time because I have to keep training this guy
>next task is short, 5 minutes Had to pick 1 item
>Nigger leaves and never comes back, told me he was going to he bathroom.
>>78243233
I think I've reached that point, I mean, I know I haven't but since I don't I might as well have a mumbling awkward guy. do people still use cellphones as phones? or just call people on the messenger app? have actual conversations or just regurgitate twitterfeed headlines?
>>78241283
unfortunate... it's the only one affordable to millennials.
>>78240994
>>78241195
This, millenials spend money on retarded shit like tattoos , peircings, clothes, music festivals, drugs, etc. , have no sense of saving, and by the time they graduate college are 50 - 100k in debt with zero job prospects
>>78243353
those meme studies aren't even a significant % of degrees out in the wild.
The problem is even when you get a STEM degree you're competing on a global scale against Ahmed bidding 3$ an hour overseas. They produce mostly shitty labor and can't communicate, but shareholders and the board of directors don't care.
>>78243233
Me too. No friends left, honestly considering an hero.
>>78241210
More like 20 years of boomer indoctrination
>>78243585
people didn't make less money in the 1990s, the average wages have barely increased at all, yet inflation has gone up and up.
>>78240994
I'm millenial, work at home in my underwear and currently have $7k in the bank after bills and needs are met til the end of the month.
>>78243079
Those days are gone but you misread why.
Why is the proliferation of tickledown economics and rise of technology which made factory jobs obsolete.
The rise of technology is a good tjhing, it makes us more productive, it increases our standard of living. The problem was our politics allowed the rich, the factory owners, not the factory workers to benefit from this rise of technology. We were told what was good for the rich would ultimately benefit us all, but they made education too expensive for any of us to have a chance.
>>78243738
Mason outs here have been at 30 an hour for a long time..
>>78243585
wealth isnt about gadgets. its about independence and ability to have familiea. also the ability to profit from effort rather than sink.
back in the day a mn could profit from sweat OR being smart OR having a uniue idea OR investmnt. ALL of these today lead to impoverishment.
>>78241841
How, I'm 22 and my health care is free through my parents plan till I'm 26 under obamacare?
We've been programmed to consume blindly with minimal thought for the long-term.
This extends into private education, where many fall for the arts meme and don't think their career paths through.
As a result, a large number have too much denbts even if they land a simple job.
Giving credit to the average prole for anything but buying a house was a mistake.
>>78243721
Given that many baby boomers are the parents of millenials, the boomer generation shares their part of the blame.
>>78243585
yeah, this is true, that was part of my point though, you'd have to fork over 3-4 months of salary for a TV like that.
now everyone in the 3rd world owns a cellphone. it's the only arguement that lines the fat pockets, that moving forward, things get more accessible, cheaper, faster to produce, more functional.
but then what? you have communism, everybody is on welfare, granted it's a comfy rock bottom but it's still just that. and honestly, McD has maybe tripled or quadrupled in price since the 90s, wages have not, I could be wrong, too lazy to google numbers.
Free trade and lack of housing regulations
How are immigrants able to afford a house but millennials cant?
>>78240994
cause I don't know how to business,
thought about starting my own taco stand, because I would probably get better pay than anywhere else that might hire me.
>>78241210
>>78241982
>>78242009
>>78242081
>>78242610
>>78243079
Basically this. This and globalism.
>>78243932
credit is complicated
initially credit funneled money back into productive finance by sappig spending power of proes and feeding it into tech investment
but it became a zero sum morl hazard. whwn credit became endessly expanded by accomodating fiscal policy it released niggers from actual enslavemnt via debt
>>78243585
Gadgets are cheap as fuck these days, sure. They're barely even worth mentioning, let alone being considered as "luxuries." But when rent costs 3 iPhones a month, something is seriously fucked with your economy.
>>78243585
>>78244060
so i just checked it, wages have gone up 14% since 1980. I vaguely remember McD's costing like 3-4$ for a meal. now a big mac trio is like 9.85$ if you want the bacon whatever shit, it's like 15$+ might as well find a millennial run hipster gastro pub at that price.
>>78242768
You could try to come here, but I guess US is considered as a "safe country" (doppelkeks). Enjoy your debts and your failed education system and the fact that you will probably never own property.
>>78241924
I'm no Ahmed you fat burger eating fuck!
Know your place.
Fellow Brits, polls open in a few hours, get your arses down to the polling station and use a black PEN! Remember Vote Leave!
>>78244084
If you have a job at make 20,000$/year (which is like near minimum wage) you can't apply for section8 or whatever the subsidy is called so apartments are $1000/month, that's $12000 per year
if you're a broke jobless nog, you get section8 and the apartment is like 200$ a month, then they pop out some kids and live for free for eternity on welfare.
it's fucking stupid.
>>78240994
>Lack of jobs in the market
>Shit housing
>People who began problems blame millennials for having said problems
Why are boomer fags this retarded?
>>78244060
the next step is that access to all goods and services expands.
a goodexample is ambulance chasers. legalservices expands to niggers in new capacities as wages fall. a nigger without a gun will ruin your life via legal aggression instead.
the sytem unble to deal with internal biological threats will eventually succumb
>The year is 2016
>Americans are disgusted with politics and refuse to participate in the election
>In a scramble to maintain democracy congress arrange a literal race between the candidates
>fastest time around the white house becomes the president
>Be an old Bernie Sanders with shit knees
>24 minutes
>Be Donald Trump with aerodynamic hair
>Takes 11:05
>Be Hillary Clinton
>Demolish the gardens, pedestrians, and bald eagles to save time
>Takes 10:30
>Hillary wins
>Praised for her time some say its a record
>Public scours the books trying to find the record
>The record is found buried deep inside the white house
>Bush did 9:11
>>78240994
Because previous generations decimated the economy. Millenials are aweful, but its funny how high and mighty other generations get considering how much easier it was to get started down the road of adulthood before the post 9/11 post great recession bullshit.
What/where are these online sit at home jobs?
Be nice to earn some extra while looking after son and wife at work.
>>78240994
What's the point of being rich? It's not going to make life fulfilling.
Is being a twitch whore considered a middle class job?
>>78244590
Kek
>Implying the half-Kenyan wouldn't hold the record
>>78240994
Because the information was not passed on.
1. Too many people going to college + educated foreign workers coming to North America. This drives up requirements for many jobs.
2. "Middle tier" work like manufacturing is largely gone, pushing a lot of people who would work those jobs into lower paying retail and service industries.
3. More expensive lifestyles. Go back 25 years: you didn't have computers, smart phones or internet to pay for. You can't even completely get by without them either as it's an expectation that you have such things by employers. (Although you can get fairly cheap solutions for them)
4. Housing market. My parents house doubled in value in the last 15 years. Cost of housing has gone up and rent has followed suit.
>median gross rent increased to a high of $602 in 2000, more than double the gross rent in 1950 (after adjusting for inflation).
So TIL
More debt, cost of living is higher and competition for a stable income is higher.
>>78244952
>>78244477
That's exactly what a Ahmed would say
>>78242669
Well bro that's mexico. In the US it's hella expensive to be near a good school and have a house. I seriously considered just taking an abandoned container and living in it instead lmao.
>>78243570
this femalama sempai. Save me from my own
>>78240994
Stupid with money, lazy, expect handouts.
Thread isn't hard to answer.
>>78241982
This. Mainly this.
Baby boomers fucked it all up. We would have benefited from another war back then. Maybe if Russia just 'accidentally' launched a nuke or two.
Also, people are too retarded to start their own businesses and the prices of everything has gone up exponentially.
>>78240994
skill gap in the market
entry level positions want years of experience and half a dozen job-specific skills, what a fucking joke
going to college was a mistake
>>78245425
Piss off grandpa
>>78244939
this country is doomed
the asians are laughing at us
apathy
>>78245444
Nah I don't feel this way. It's just that people aren't retiring fast enough. It's not completely on boomers
>>78240994
Lack of purpose--generally speaking and the outlook on everything is grim.
>I'll get a degree
H1-B'z & awhfirmative ackshun XD
>I'll join the military
Proxy war for jooz XD
>I'll volunteer
Not if you want a place to live XD
>I'll learn a trade
Good, goy, fix my things XD
Couple that with the fact that jobs dried up once boomers realized that they can't afford to retire.
Then there's the inevitable global economic meltdown that's on its way which makes working, saving money, and exerting effort seem like a wasteful endeavor.
>>78245087
yeah that's mostly true, but the distancing of the classes is increasing, our country used to make shoes, piece of trivia i learned somewhere, people made good wages, upper 10s lower 20s, it cost a bit more to produce but we didn't have to import them making them more or less equally priced and in the 90s they shut it all down, shipped it overseas for profit and and index points.
but yeah the housing and rent prices are ridiculous, it's extortion for basic necessity, pure gouging, you can't even get a job without a place to stay, which is ironically the loop homeless people find themselves in, they can't just show up to a place without a printed or emailed CV dressed and smelling like a bum, with not permanent residence or method of contact. and people know this and don't want to be homeless, back in the 30's sure, but standdards change, which is why iphones with some form of connectivity are part of this necessity, not just a luxury. or at least a pc and internet.
>>78245452
Every business expects an entry level worker to have as much experience and their seniors. It's retarded.
How is someone going to get the skills and experience for an entry job if they can't get the entry job without skills and experience.
It forces more experienced people into lower positions with less pay and kicks beginners out of the equation.
Entrepreneurship is the way to go in the new millenium
>>78245600
its not just the meltdown that steals purpose.
niggers get automatics a in schools. they et free tuition which takes a lifetime to pay off. they automatically get better jobs relative totheir qualifications.
the shit we OBSESS and SPEND OUR LIVES struggling over is robbed from us and rubbed in our face. at all levels. we have no ability to redict what will work or what wont.
know why chinks work hard for dirt pay? because tey KNOW theyll get money and they KNOW the better they do the more money. its a simple. fuctional. system.
>>78245864
What happens is when there's a recession, employers start adding in these sorts of requirements to pare down on the amount of applications they get. They're already being bombarded by thousands of applicants, so they want to discourage people from applying as well as get the better candidates for the job.
>>78245808
Just live out of a van
You can get one cheap.
>>78245600
This nigger speaks it like it is, and even has the savvy bantz. Oldfag I'd assume but whatever, the inverse is rare but rarely true too.
Fuck this life.
not all millenials are jobless sjw pieces leftist pieces of shit. just throwing it out there
>>78246155
where do i shit, shower, get my ebt card mailed to? cook my own bulk rice and beans? pay countless parking tickets or god forbid, a towing?
Also bad Parents. This is more of a side effect than a direct cause.
See, today both parents HAVE to have a job in order to keep a house over everyone's head. Back in the day only the dad needed a job. Now everyone in the family needs a job. Leaving less time for interaction and teaching kids to become adults.
Add on to that the fact that kid's are now having intercourse earlier as a result. We are now seeing babies pop out at an exponential growth rate. It's not going to get any better in the coming years.
>>78242081
I'm 23 and make $22 an hour doing helpdesk that can't be off-shored by law. I don't have student loans because I mustered a 33 on the ACT and got a BS in Economics. I also own a home (have mortgage though) because I worked full-time through college to save up.
Maybe you just suck.
>>78246324
not all millenials are sjw pieces leftist pieces of lefistist pieces shit.
fix't
>>78246064
Who told you all these lies?
>>78245600
Wow you must jackoff a lot in order to be so negative
>>78246154
So how long until this recession is over.
Seems like it's been going on for 8 fucking years.
>>78246603
As soon as you grow up. Jobs fucking grow on trees here.
>>78246712
I have a job.
I'm just what you would call underemployed.
>>78246712
Keep telling yourself that.
>>78246603
Depends where you live I suppose. Just has been an observation of mine since the job hunt has been a fucking nightmare here whereas a year or two ago it was piss easy.
I've applied to some 30-40 jobs a month on average since Jan 2016 whereas I used to apply to about a dozen places and have a job within a month. And I'm more educated/experienced than I ever was.
>>78244084
4 families per house, if we're talking beaners.
>>78246368
You do know that it's illegal to give financial aid to able, straight, white males over less qualified minorities (aka everyone else).
>>78240994
Parents didn't beat their asses enough and never said no.
>>78246778
I've been there (am there).
What's your degree in? How many years of experience do you have?
>>78246368
mumsy and daddy make a little contribution on your down payment? or the bean counters realized you were so shit with money you would sign a 40 year variable rate mortgage starting at 6.2% so they pie cahrt your income before you know you're going to make it and they get it all back on the cheap.
yeah, you have no money. you have things and no leverage, no assets. enjoy being 24 and jobless till you're 27 hired for 12$ an hour as a "scoail animator" a.k.a a clown.
>>78240994
How come shills only post once?
>>78243079
this. The American Dream is gone, but many of us were still raised on the American Dream by our Boomer parents. So we know what we are missing hard, because we were still sold it.
many older millennials remember their pre 2001 childhood. they remember going to blockbuster or the movies as being a common occurrence, not a splurge.
Then they remember going to school and being fed that in the brave new world of THE YEAR TWO THOUSAAAAND you needed to go to college or youd be flipping burgers your life. And that shits for squares! Hell, any kind of industrial job is for POOR people! You go to college Timmy, and you'll be the next Bill Gates!
then 9/11 happens, breaking the American Spirit. Then the war on Terror happens, dragging it through the mud. Then the financial collapse happens, and destroys it completely
And we've never recovered since, and all those Timmies who went to college, either ended up flipping burgers anyway, only with a debt saddled degree that doesnt help them at all, or were fed a steady diet of liberal marxist propaganda and consumed by social media and became tumblrites with stupid actually worthless degrees.
and among all of this, the rise of social media and 24/7 connectivity with smartphones, have degraded our social skills to amplify our worst, so not only has our economy been broken, but our society has as well. All while the generation who fucked it lets it all burn, and STILL tries to fuck it further.
>>78247044
Electrical Engineering, I have 6 months of experience working at a grocery store.
>>78246334
This is another huge factor.
Baby boomers are some of the worst parents in history. Most of them got pregnant when they were high off they ass from all the drugs of the 70's and then we're like "well fuck we have a kid now", and then proceeded to barely make ends meet while having the mentality of a party-loving college kid well into adulthood.
Why do you think so many people from this generation can't hold a conversation and suck at dealing with people? They needed a parent to RAISE them to become a well adjusted adult and look what happened.
>>78246894
weird isn't it? makes you wonder if they're actually hiring, i mean, if unemployment statistics remain stagnant or even within the sub-multiple margin, even though people take shittier and shittier jobs, it should be equally difficult/easy as it was.
maybe they hire shittier HR and they like to sleep on things, bait applications to pool resumes to keep their jobs? who knows. tw@ts...
>>78243643
>didn't go to college
>only 1k in debt
>have more job prospects than most of these millennial faggots
The key to my success? A daily dose of /pol/.
>>78247052
30 year, FHA with 2.85% fixed. 10K down on a 120K house, so the loan amount is 110K for perspective. What I pay in interest, taxes, and insurance is less than what a comparable apartment costs in my city.
Made sense, honestly.
How do we fix the job market for millennials?
>>78247348
I guess it's up to our generation to be the grizzled, leathery tough as coffin nails generation our grandparents were.
"herp derp your grandfather was a hard ass and always yelled, always drinking and babbling about the somme and eating his horse, and whispering about how all his friends left him on iwo juima when some guy called willie pete showed up, holding his 4 year old brother timmy's hand when he was eviscerated by a mechanical cog in a factory and how when the market crashed, I won't be like that, I'm the cool parent" - pater pan/micheal jackson generation ensues.
>>78247552
120k in a city? where? panama?
>>78247771
start yourselves a co-op
>>78247919
Des Moines
>>78247771
protectionism is a good place to start. if the job can be done in china by a chinaman, it can be done in the US on home soil by an American who will then put the money he earns back into the economy.
this shit is simple economics. When people have more spending cash, the economy does well. And to have more spending cash, they need better jobs. the kind that have been shipped out to china or sri-lanka since the mid-90's
>>78243585
>>78244060
inflation has been good to TV's and electronics.
The reverse is true for ACTUAL FUCKING EXPENSES:
Children
Education
HOUSING
FOOD
Fuel/transportation
Declining wages/increasing CPI
It's a red herring, unless you can fucking eat TV's from China and live in their boxes, fuck boxes, get educated by card board and plastic, etc you are F U C K E D into massive debt. Boomers and some silent generation fucked the West by every conceivable metric imaginable.
I can't eat televisions, even television itself pisses me off and I cut the cord a decade ago.
>>78245949
which is just code for "the system doesn't accomodate you, fuck off and figure it out!"
people are not smart and disciplined enough to be entrepeneurs
and I'm not even talking innovation smart, the average joe couldn't make a hot dog stand a success
the reality is humans are becoming obsolete and there's nothing we can do about it unless we want to stop technological progress
>>78240994
Because Boomers should be retiring but lucky for us MASS IMMIGRATION supported by idiot hippies is here.
>>78244084
Millennials are too white to get free gibmedats houses from Obama.
>>78240994
Being poor is easy.
>>78240994
because most of them learn digital skills, and no actual hands-on trade skills.
>>78248141
>I cut the cord a decade ago.
Good man.
>>78247771
I don't think we can. The prior generation had jobs where the work was shitty, and couldn't be automated which allowed for people with average intellect to get houses, cars, etc. Now you need a legit degree in a legit field, which kinda leaves our average person of intellect in the dust.
I will say that in about 15-20 years time, with wages still being stagnant, and baby boomers dying, there will be excess supply in a housing market due to extra inventory, bringing house prices back down and/or stabilizing them. So that's nice. (Just a pet theory of mine)
>Knock Knock
who is it?
>not a pension
>>78248529
Nope the Chinese are buying up property so they will buy up more houses if prices do go down.
>>78248044
canadian niggers wont get the concept of a livable, wholesome city where you can actually purchase a home for under 200k. actually, most US niggers wont get this concept either. they are too busy trying to make it in stupid hipster cities that are over priced. des moines, columbus, kansas city, minneapolis. those are true sleeper cities with good quality of life and affordable prices. indy too. im in portland, oregon but keep trying to get my west coast girlfriend to move back to the midwest with me. its nice...
>>78248141
Currently considering the merits of building an awesome boxhouse to live out of or a log cabin somewhere in the wilderness, I think id miss people too much.
>>78242355
The only person I know who has a job is working on missiles for the air force and that's because his father got him a job at the contracting company he works at, has a physics degree, and interned by writing software for the muon detector on the LHC. If I had known I wouldn't be able to get a loan for grad school I would have never double majored in history and anthropology. I know I can do pretty much anything to do with marketing, population research, or public policy, but the job market certainly doesn't see it that way. I'll probably be working at a fast food place for the rest of my life.
>>78248625
Only old fucks care about this. I'll live in the woods when I'm 65 in 44 years lol.
Anyone have any tips on how to man up? My father was a rich but beta male who, no joke, worked with autistic kids and helped them become normal people. I'm pretty well off, but he never taught me jack shit and I'm planning to head into the military so I don't become a beta like him. Anyone have any tips on how to become more of a military man before I ship off in about a year? I go to the gym everyday, planning on going to the range, but I don't know how to prepare myself for it. This is as a millenial, btw.
>>78247321
Ever think about taking a shitty, unrelated job at the local utility / local firm that could use your degree?
Internal Job Boards > External Job Boards
Just a tip. Don't know if you tried that.
>>78240994
Fools and their money are soon parted.
>>78240994
Higher cost of living than ever.
Retirement age people who won't fucking retire.
The job market being almost twice as saturated as it used to be thanks to "feminine empowerment."
Oh and don't forget the economic recession we never fully recovered from.
>>78248707
>Chinese buying individually single family homes that literally won't sell at a higher price, and require caring maintenance to avoid further depreciation.
Oh okay then.
>>78248951
Idiot aging sellouts and their countries are soon parted.
>>78249004
"N-no, it's better now we swear!"
>>78241094
>mfw trade school
>mfw unionized skilled labor
>mfw 60k/year doing a job I love
College is a meme unless you're actually smart and can work hard.
>>78248707
they might also sell though. its part of a money laundering scheme and no one laudersmoney to los it
thats why its a market. the prices CAN go down
>>78240994
Because 20 years ago Bill Clinton signed N.A.F.T.A., G.A.T.T., and gave china MFN trading status. Then there was the "Giant sucking sound" as Ross Peron predicted, of all the manufacturing jobs leaving the country.
Walmart didn't used to be full of cheap crap made by child labor over in China.
>>78244549
>be me
>be millennial
>have job, pays well enough
>have housing, not that expensive
>wonder when all the other faggots my age are going to stop bitching and blaming all their problems on their parents
>mfw
>>78248862
do something tech-y like airforce or something. DO NOT DO SECURITY or whatever infantry trash they have unless you want to be some police officer or something in the future.
Getting a job is a huge step in manning-up already, mostly it's learning on your own. It's really hard to heed even good advice until you actually live it.
>>78248862
You need to realize that you aren't special in any way, shape, or form.
You are a tool of the government. You are a soldier to be used as seen fit by your superiors. A soldier is built to protect and serve. A soldier has no room in his toolkit for emotions. All that matters is accomplishing the mission. You need to complete every task to a 'T' at 110% efficiency. Make no mistakes. Your screw up can cost someone their life. Without proper training you are useless to your squad. Everything requires teamwork, you work together with those around you. Acting hot headed makes you a liability not an asset.
>>78249368
>>have housing, not that expensive
How much?
>>78249368
Watching catch me if you can made me do some looking and i realized the 60s american middle class was so much happier than todays much poorer middle class.
>>78249368
>live anywhere between the coasts
>have two choices for jobs: service industry or retail
>make shit money for life unless you move to the coasts
>>78249425
Got a shitty grocery job. Guess it's good enough. Funny you say that, want to become a police officer. Infantry is fine for that, then? I just feel like a parasite atm, this country is so great and I'm just riding off the back of my wealthy parents. It's so goddamn boring and degrading.
>>78241094
Software development a stable choice?
>>78248801
>i can do marketing population research etc
except you probably cant. 99% of hist majors dont even know history. let alone the type math and psychology needed to do the aforemntioned
not saying you got rejected from grad school becuse yore dumb. but you CANTdo everything. this sort of overcofidence is why no one takes bachelors anymore.
>>78248896
local utilities aren't hiring entry level positions at the moment
I might just see if I can get a job at some factory or steel mill in the middle of buttfuck nowhere doing automation, I think the turnover in those types of jobs is decently high
>>78249456
If that was true they wouldn't let woman apply
>>78249495
$765/month for a one bedroom apartment. Not fantastic but i don't have any real trouble affording it.
Why was globalization supposed to be a good thing?
>>78240994
Who cares? Unless you are one. Seeming as you are wealthy then these punks will rent your investment properties or you can be their sugar daddies, either way it is not a bad thing and maybe a good thing that they are - again providing you are not one
>>78240994
Why would i save money for shit? So that some snotty little fucks can inherit my life's work while i sell my life for them, fuck no, i've got 4 paychecks put away and that's it, i'm going to use anything else to enjoy myself. Make money to live , don't live to make money
>>78249670
Not even entry level. Like, literally being a clerk or working in customer service. Not even related to your degree. Just a foot in the door.
Just put in 18 months at the job, and keep your ear to the ground.
>>78249672
Soldiers have no gender. Being a soldier isn't something you chose or become. It's something you're born as. Either you are or you aren't. Not everyone has what it takes.
>>78240994
Older generations have done a great job fucking us over.
>>78240994
A lot of reasons, really.
>Pride and Value Buying
Typically, you get what you pay for. Most younger people have fallen into the interesting trap of going purely for middle ground brand sort of deals.
For instance, the person not willing to spend more than 100 dollars on shoes that would last them 3 years, but also not willing to buy used goods. So, they end up with a really shitty quality shoe they bought for 80 dollars that got replaced in 1 year.
It gets especially bad when it gets to food and rent. Many people I've met refuse to budget their expenses, or shop at lower end stores due to some idea of a stigma being attached to where the hell you buy your vegetables from. For rent, it's a quagmire of "I want the best I can afford, and I'm willing to pay more than 1/3 of my income for it." So, they get a nice apartment they don't generate equity in, and then lose more than 1/3 of their income a year. Other great categories for this are basic clothes, and cars.
>Loss of confidence in education
There is a very interesting disconnect between employers and employees. As it has become easier to obtain a post high school education those very same educations have become a bit dubious to most employers; many don't trust the certifications given, and many more don't want to pay the extra money for an overqualified candidate.
>High turn over
The average turnover for the last five years of a person aged 20-30 has been about 6 months. People are switching careers and abandoning jobs rapidly, and employers are fucking terrified. Initial joining benefits are very limited, many businesses are preferring contract to hire modes of operation, and of course, raises tend to be tied to performance over a long period of time.
>>78249639
I'm friends with three different people who are software developers. They make a fuck-ton, but are always stressed out of their mind.
All really financially secure though.
>>78248529
M8 the reason house prices don't go down is because reatards keep taking out loans which technically enables them to buy houses.
As previous financial crises' have shown, the banks aren't concerned whether or not the debt gets paid back - at worst they end up with the house itself, and can do with it whatever the fuck they want.
When a financial crises' does occur, the gubmint just bails them out, things stabilize, and the process starts again.
The only time house prices fall down is during a financial crises, where banks stop lending so there aren't many buyers in the market, hence the dropping of house prices.
Beyond that, no, house prices will never go down. Not unless people continue to keep taking out loans.
>>78249425
yeah even like aircraft maintenance, shit like that, pilots don't make the kin of scratch they did in the 50s and 60s, it's like 17k a year for the first 8 years.
>>78250022
OK, thanks
>>78241845
Should have gone into production/transportation.
Still chunking on along at $60k/yr and doing fuck all.
>>78249647
Except I've already done industrial process engineering as an intern. I've done CBA's and chemical treatment process streamlining so i actually have done higher level statistics than most census research requires. Besides, half of anthropology is determining population characteristics from a smaller sample size. E.g. I did my thesis on the diet of the local population of Götland by looking at the slain at the battle of Visby.
>>78249919
>Make money to live , don't live to make money
I love this saying. It's how I see life. I'm going to get this on a banner or something.
>>78250033
I know what drives the prices up now. I'm saying that excess inventory coupled with stagnant wages will put the fucking brakes on price increases 20 years from now. (In the US in non-trendy places, at least).
>>78249927
looks like they want a few years of experience for the few clerical positions they have posted :^)
I'll keep looking though, that sounds like a good idea
Reminder that if you're 18-30 years old you're a millennial.
>21 years old
>Deep space welder (make repairs to ISS, satellites, etc)
>When I'm grounded, I work my side job. (Cybersecurity consultant for major corporations and governments)
>Already have my first $10 million in investments
You millenials just need to apply yourself some more
>>78240994
>>78242077
>pokemon cards
Post more millenials. I wanna collect 'em all.
>>78249919
this too, and keep in mind savings accounts are fucked, even tax free savings accounts, they barely outrun inflation with their interest, if even.
then you have other forms of saving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvZSpET11ZY
I guess there's also the notion of actual saving, meaning, putting money aside that you don't spend, rather than expecting it to increase on its own, for things like a down payment on a car or house, emergencies, and nothing drains savings more than unemployment, worse if it's tied into a pension and they tax your ass 200% for taking it out to buy noodles and detergent.
>>78250145
Also there's high turnover.
Thankfully, there's always new job postings. For now at least. And you can typically work from home.
I'll just live in the woods.
>dont wanna end up a cartoon in a cartoon graveyard
Anyways, all jokes aside, the American economy is horrible right now.
Things aren't like they use to be.
I truly expect a huge crash, all I see is decay and I live in one of the best possible states.
>>78250339
you get (you) for effortless bullshit, like boomers.
>>78250293
Define "clerical".
Also, just apply. Especially if you have BS in it. What can they do, say no?
>>78249273
College is a meme even if you're actually smart and can work hard. Academia is one huge money scam. Being intelligent does not matter, all that matters is making friends with the establishment and playing into the political correctness horse shit. Grant money is passed out for reasons you really don't want to know.
Pic mostly related
>>78244454
have fun at beerfes...wait nevermind i forgot sharia law and everything sorry Muhammad abdulahmedaliabdalmalik
>>78250595
Positions listed under "Clerical & Administrative Services."
I'll start shotgunning clerical positions.
>>78249133
To be fair a lot of this is to just get the money out of China should it collapse. If China has a serious hiccup then you'll see a flood of houses for sale out of nowhere that will drag us down financially with them.
>have humanities degree
>redpilled but you can't put that on a resume
>apply for literally every non-physical job in my town
>only get callbacks from pyramid schemes
Things were better in school when I worked in a restaurant and could afford weed
>>78250178
ya my rig is very slow atm, doesnt help that the biggest company in the region just got sold off.
>live in Miami
>2/3 of the population can't afford to buy a home
>over 70% of young people between the ages of 18-25 still live at home
Yet we keep building more condos people can't afford and Ricky Scott brings in more shitty jobs no one wants to do as the pay is a joke.
This generation is very screwed up, but who raised them?
It's like seeing a shitty, vicious dog and blaming it for being a shitty, vicious animal. Of course it's a shitty vicious animal, but who raised it? Maybe if it didn't have a horrible owner and wasn't raised in horrible conditions, it would actually be a pet worth owning. I know it's a crappy metaphor but you all know what I'm talking about.
Anyway, the "economy" is barely relevant now, since we don't even really have an economy anymore. Half the time, the money isn't even real.
I myself am starting to care less and less about stuff like this. The Georgia Guidestones are going to start getting a lot more relevant in the next 40 years or so. I guess it won't apply to me specifically though since I'll be anheroing before 35.
Just remember /pol/, you can't take any of it with you.
>>78249919
You're supposed to build up wealth and pass it on to the next generation in order to strengthen the bloodline.
But no one's even having kids so whatever. Society's fucked. We're all fucked.
Enjoy that new electronic/vehicle/whatever.
>>78250862
A flood of cheap houses in an era where, according to some of you, no one will be able buy houses? Bringing house prices record lows where people would stop renting, and start owning property?
Oh woe is us.
I'm so sad! I miss having friends, but I have been without them so long that I no longer want them. Kill me seriously.
>>78250230
if you did inustrial shit as n intern ty more industrial hit.
btw your thesis makes you sound like a disonnected autist
none of that has anything to do with marketing or most demography nd the fact you cant see that is damning to an asessment of yor intelligence
>>78250902
Work for the railroad.
>>78251050
I'm surprised any rigs are running at all.
They pretty well finished contracts then shutdown here. Only the "well connected" people avoided losing work.
Because the boomers and GenX destroyed every shred of generational wealth this country had, drove up costs of living, simultaneously increased the cost of education while devaluing it with shit like feminism, and elected cucks like bush and obama
>>78251331
I was turned down for entry level training positions because I was educated
>>78251275
>>78250840
Only 2-3 applications with a company at a time. Any more that, and it looks like your desperate.
Finding a job works funnily just like dating.
>>78251335
ya my bros service rig is still going hard at it, but as you say 'well connected' people stay working, the owner of his company is a consultant for the biggest company around... plus gotta keep the wells going somehow, specially when the producer is still locked in for $80 a barrel.
>>78250767
>>78251103
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRZLxCAZV0k
>>78241076
Holy fuck this.
my 19yr old nephew drinks that shit like no tomorrow.
Add in about $15 for coffee daily and $10 bucks for lunch cuz the useless cunt can't even make a sandwich to take to work and he's perma poor
>>78250334
>tfw just turned 30
>just went on vacation outside the country for the first time
>not in any major debt because of the college degree meme
>have a career in L.E.
>no kids
>live alone
How did other people manage to fuck up living in the best nation on earth? I'm not even cis white me
>>78251441
Then leave it off your resume. Put 18 months in, keep an ear to the ground, casually start mentioning that you have a degree to someone ABOVE your boss, move up.
>>78250902
>only get callbacks from pyramid schemes
iktf
at least i'm smart enough to know what pyramid schemes are, unlike most of the poor kids i knew in high school
>>78251555
Because you're such a nice uncle you can buy him a coffee machine.
So I'm a millennia and I have over 15k saved after a year and a half what should I do with it?
>>78251722
the people who regularly buy coffee at a shop are not the ones who brew at home
>>78251776
Depends on where you live.
>>78251776
index based ETF's, some banks with a good stop loss,
>>78251555
modern people, even the "smart" are retarded as fuck. that coconut water hit is literally just sugar wter slapped with tge name of a magical healing plant.
fucks sake people are stupid. profit should only be allowed on good ideas. money held by stupid people should be held in escrow or omething. the driving industries in our economy are voodoo drinks and voodoo facebook magical advertisements
>>78251776
>tfw waiting til my car is paid off so I can save a boatload of money every month.
I sit on $500 disposable income every month. Can't wait til I get an additional $360 from my car being paid off
>>78251776
not much useful you can do with that. wage intertia combined with inflation thats ony two montha income for a boomer household. its fucking nothing.
spend it on thai lessons so you can move to hooker island
>>78251476
you're*
>>78240994
Lots of graduates with non-professional degrees and not enough entry level permanent positions available on the market.
>immigrants (inb4 some guy says immigrants aren't expensive to a country in large)
>outsourcing,almost all tech manufacturing bases are outside of modern countries
>no regulation over degrees, degrees should be limited depending on what jobs are available
>proxy wars - this shit seriously has to end
>woman rights - the family courts and law completely dismantled middle class men. with alimony everyone has less buying power and less room in prison
>dumb laws - jailing a person for a year trying to sell weed. i personally knew such person
>care packages - this is debatable, but the third world needs to start cultivating their own food
>>78240994
Because they think they're too special to work for a living.
>>78253339
Shame we can't all be old people that had the same job from 19-65.
>>78240994
There's less well paying job opportunities? Higher cost of living?
A lot what boomers took for granted just ain't no more. They had it easy.
I started my degree at the age of twenty, will be done at 24, another two years for my CPA license, then I will move out. Gonna get comfy cause I will be living with mom and dad for a long time.
>>78240994
It's a combination of them being fucking idiots and (in their defence) being horribly fucked over by the scumbag babyboomers.
>>78253995
> fucking idiots
Compared to who?
>>78241195
>piercings are pricey
Not really, no. Twenty per one for ears and that includes the jewelry. Things get more expensive for body jobs but even then the price doesn't go up that much. A good tattoo is expensive but that's because you actually have to travel most of the time to get good work done.
>>78249313
This.
>tfw did a health care degree with 98% employment and a yearly salary starting between 80K-110K
Feels good being smart enough to take advantage of the aging boomers.
>>78240994
because they are helpless manchildren
>>78253995
>inb4 GenX calls Millennials idiots
>inb4 GenX hypocritically calls boomers scumbags.
GenX is responsible for the rise of 3rd wave feminism, safe spaces... all the SJW bullshit you see in colleges. Sure, they were taught it by the boomers, but they are responsible for passing it on the Millennials. Millennials are the first generation since the early 1940's to en masse begin to think for themselves, instead of spouting the same rehashed communist shit they learned in school, no doubt thanks to the internet. Get out of here with your millennial bashing. You older fucks need to bend a knee and let us fix the fucked up society you're leaving us with.
>>78250740
>Academia is one huge money scam.
In your country it is. Over here college and university is almost free, and if you're from a poor family you can easily get interest-free (!) loans to cover everything, including food and rent. The idea is, students should be able to focus on getting their degree as fast as possible, instead of being forced to work part time jobs just to afford their education. Students get so many benefits here that a lot of people just keep on studying, or stay enrolled even after they pick up jobs.
We actually tried to convert our system a while ago by introducing university fees and "punishing" people who don't get their degree "fast enough". And introduced shorter bachelor degrees for students who can't wait to become wage slaves. Guess what? It backfired. The industry soon realized that bachelors are useless and overall a lot less people went to uni so the result was a shortage of skilled employees. And being a real first world country, well, we don't have that much demand for half-trained monkeys anymore. So we went back to the old system.
>>78250796
Dunno man. Drinking a beer right now, a bit early but it's a beautiful sunny day and I'm gonna do some shit in our garden today.
>>78251638
they bought into the STEM meme
they bought into the college meme
mfw I am currently buying into the STEM meme.
mfw I have no face.
Least my government can't get the money back from me unless I start earning big.
>School is expensive as fuck
>Market is drying out
>Study my ass off on a daily basis, while holding a job and a research position so I don't end up at the bottom for my entire life
>Try to keep within my means, buy in bulk, rarely get any luxuries, vacation once or twice a year (maybe, and that's just to visit my folks)
>Live in a shitty, but serviceable apartment on the cheap
>Commute using public transportation or my bike, because cars are expensive
And then I hear and see a bunch of my friends and classmates constantly flying and vacationing all around the world, going to expensive bars and restaurants, and tell me to just take out more loans. I'm losing my fucking mind.
>>78240994
They spend more time at "Occupy" protests than they do at work.
>>78255477
>In your country it is
Yeah, alright, I'm sorry. What you said is true. It is that way here in America. I shouldn't make presumptions about European universities. Please forgive me. I'm American. It's hard to remember that other places exist.
we may be monetarily poor but we are rich in the most important thing: dank memes
>>78240994
Because previous generation stolen and ruined everything.
>>78255325
GenX here, and I agree completely about the SJW bullshit. It's not a new trend at all, therefore it's stupid to bash "millennials" for it. Radical feminism was going pretty strong in our gen, but as you say, we were taught it ourselves. For example by pic related, she literally spouted slogans like "cut off all dicks" on mass media while we were young.
However... it's kinda normal for older folks to look down on the youngsters. When you're in your 20s you think you got the whole world figured out, been there myself. Couple decades later you realize how immature you were regardless.
>>78240994
I..is this a male of or a female in pic related?
>be 18 in 1967
>graduate high school with OK grades
>set out into the real world
>land job right away that easily allows me to pay for a comfortable lifestyle
>stay at the same company
>buy a nice house
>buy myself a new car every 5 to 7 years
>get married
>start a family
>work my way to upper management
>making 6 figures now
>work into retirement with all my benefits, cause why the fuck not?
>paid for my kids college
>be in a position to hire/fire
>younger generation coming in looking for work
>one kid is applying for the exact same position I started out at 40 years ago
>"Sorry buddy, you need a Masters for this position" I tell him
>fucking young people... they're not HUNGRY enough
>coming here with only 3 years work experience, five references and only a Bachelors... these fucking ENTITLED young people...
Boomers.
Sounds like you guys' problem is the extremely expensive schools. And the fact that every minority can do it for almost free, plus they employer gets subsidised when they hire a minority.
Try getting a mortgage with 100k in debt and a "steady" income of 15 an hour. Good luck.
Meanwhile in the Netherlands, my parents saved us 6000€ plus 1 worked one summer vacation full time at a grocery store. This combined will get me the second highest Law degree I can get. (The highest non-specialised). My school takes care of a 36 hour a week job during my last 2 years where I can repay my parents in about 5 monthe and save up the rest to buy a car when I leave school. (Don't need one now because our PTS is great and the government pays for it if you are a student.
It's not the boomers, it's your country. They made the American Dream impossible for the average white American.
>>78240994
Is that a man?
