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SYRIA GENERAL /sg/ - GOODBYE IVAN SIRODENKO EDITION
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>South Aleppo June 18
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>Fallujah June 17
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>Manbij June 16
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>Latakia June 16
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>Palmyra June 13
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>Central Syria June 11
https://i.imgur.com/Rt2ZBEg.jpg

DEVELOPMENTS JUNE 22
Syria/Yemen/Iraq articles and developments (June 21)
>Desert Hawks and Syrian Marines left the 555th Regiment at Sufiyah and withdrew all the way to Zakiyah, leaving our men trapped.
>Syrian Army steadily advances in Bahariyah amid intensifying battles
>Moscow stresses urgent need for Syria peace talks
>New ISIS gains have the Syrian Arab Army expelled from Raqqa province
>U.S. soldiers wounded in ISIS rocket attack in northern Syria
>Syrian Army destroys ISIS HQ in northern Sweida
>Syrian Air Force destroys ISIS ammunition depot in southwest Deir Ezzor
>Russia pulverizes east Palmyra while ISIS attempts to advance
>ISIS captures Khirbat Zeidan in west Raqqa
>Islamist offensive in Darayya ends in failure
>VIDEO: Russian white phosphorus rains on Islamist rebels in western Aleppo
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First for SAA BTFO
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Second for can't mossad the assad
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>>78205334

Tatical withdraw, Russia finally decided to keep Raqqa at the end, the focus will be Anadan Plains and Damascus
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Why was last /sg/ deleted?

Anyway here is a video of ISIS rolling through the streets where a few days ago the SAA was. Sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THEu5o4-I40
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>>78205550
>streets

But that štora in the end got me in the feels...
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>>78205550

I don't know, i came here and not /sg/ in the spot? What happened?
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>>78205550
No corpses, no spoils. Wasn't this supposed to be a bad defeat?
Also
>streets
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>>78205085
OP pic is underrated.
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>>78205944
Look at 2:26, remember SAA took pictures there a week ago.

>>78205948
15 minutes ago we had an /sg/ but it was deleted. No idea why.

>>78206098
>not watching full video before commenting
South Front reported 23 killed and 49 injured.
Also some reports about 3 Russian soldiers killed from Amaq with pictures from their phones but not of the bodies
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>>78205085
Why are we saying goodbye to Ivan? Can anyone catch me up to date?
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Guys, Ivan is out of Twitter due to he is getting life now, i can't share more information because is personal from him, but i will be sharing information from him.

GOOD LUCK BASED IVAN, I HOPE LUCK WILL BE WITH YOU
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>>78206459
He's quitting
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>>78206459
Reports that he died appeared last night/this morning.

His Twitter has been delete or deactivated.

No updates on YouTube in 24 hours.

Several Russians allegedly captured by ISIS, at least 3 today and who knows how many with the Syrian regiment that was left behind to die.

Ivan probably deactivated his Twitter from the field so ISIS wouldn't gain access, if you ask me.
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>>78206516
>>78206634
He got a life so he's done with reporting on Syria?

That's pretty gay. I guess Minnesota isn't alone in giving up on the SAA
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>>78205085

Assad and Nasrallah
have more firepower, better logistics, better organization than their enemies.
Even the obviosu split command between shia and syrian military (in the Aleppo commands) is much more under control than, say FSA divisions. ISIS does have unified command but they also have to fight Iraq, western airstrikes, and both countrys Kurd factions
Assad's allies are also much more helpful because they can legally bomb ISIS
Unlike the saudis who can't mossad Assad and must content themselves with blasting Yemen.
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RIP /sg/
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>>78207043
No
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Even ivan saw the incompetence of Assadist and SAA

But /sg/ is still assadist

why?
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:')
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>>78207322
Do something useful for once and post turkish jailbaits.
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>>78206953
>tfw Allah is btfo'ing shia kuffar
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>>78207451
ı fuck your mother and you happened
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>>78207509
kek
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>>78207509
>>78207542
>when Otto starts samefagging from his phone
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>>78207503
>tfw you're the 1/73
>the true muslims
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>>78206800

I would do the same desu
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>>78207503
معارك عنيفة على جبهات الغوطة الشرقية وإحراز تقدم على عدة نقاط متقدمة
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>>78207689
you happened same way too
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You told me Al-Tabqah soon.
;_;
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>>78207322
>But /sg/ is still assadist
opportunist fuck

everyone has their reasons. For myself Assad influences US policy, with him in power we could see a secure Iraq and keep drawing down american deployments in the god forsaken near east.
"Asia was a mistake" -you can quote me, your country included

Assad will make syria great again, you literally have to go back, and no to taking their oil.
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>>78206698
IvanSidorenko1 was never on the frontline.

Russian soldiers were not captured. First thing ISIS would do is make a video of them if there were captured Russians.

There is only the three Russian soldiers that ISIS claimed they killed.

Although the soldiers from the cell phone that ISIS took look nothing alike in the each photo. There is no pictures of bodies or Russian gear from there and there is zero confirmation by the Russian MoD at this time. So it may have very well been a fake.
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>>78208207

Some reports say RuAF didn't cover a shit
Some reports say about it was poorly planned
Some reports say they will to another front because ISIS is still too strong in the area.

Nobody knows
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>>78208243
lol leftist cuck
Assad is iran's vassal
Shiites want to wipe out USA and WEST

delusionals
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>Info about 3 Russian soldiers dead in a burnt truck on #Athria - #Raqqa road is false. Syria has this trucks too.
https://twitter.com/SyriaWarReports/status/745756869323530240
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>>78208388
Why is the goverment doing so badly all of a sudden?
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>>78208748
>all of a sudden
How new are you?
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>>78208748
How new are you?
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>>78208681
@BM-21 contradicts their claim
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>>78208748
>all of a sudden?
You meant for 5 years
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>>78208748

Blame the ceasefire and trying to Russia display some show for the media, it works and thanks to that people know about Al-Nusra and actually people is not believing a shit to SOHR and other jews medias.

But it also give time to FSA re-arm themselves and SAA is getting frustated for having to many places to attack.

For me, the place to advance is Al-Bab or Deir Hafer, the rest cant just fuck off.
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IvanSidorenko1 is back!
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IVAN SIDORENKO REOPENED HIS TWITTER

PRAISE KEK
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>>78208656
Yor pissy because Iran is YOUR problem, not ours.
The threat posed by their government is Cuba-tier. They are nothing compared to ally saudi for creating radical terror.

Guess what, Iran can have you
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>>78209008
>>78209064
They made steady progress in Aleppo, Latakia and Palmyra. Now ever since that ceasefire losses in Aleppo and we got the horrible failed offensive that was this.

It's probably going to be worse with NSA in the south.
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>>78209419
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/745758798028103681
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RAQQA ''''OFFENSİVE''''
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>>78208748
It isn't in the grand scheme of things. This was just a bad two weeks. They made two incursions into very important ISIS held regions and abandoned their Aleppo offensive.

ISIS counterattacked. SAA still gained a lot of ground northwest and northeast of Palmyra.

South Aleppo was inevitable. Everybody knew an attack was coming due to the 'cease-fire'. They did get BTFO there though. No reason why they should have so poorly prepared.

And Latakia was a bit of success + a bit of failure. Turkey lured the SAA in with the rebel withdrawal amid a moderately successful SAA attack, then the Turkmen & FSA launched a full counterattack hoping the SAA would hold their new positioned. SAA retreated successfully (unlike in Raqqa) and so the result was pretty much a return to pre-offensive/retreat front lines. This is business as usual for the war and not bad at all.

There is no real explanation for how Raqqa was routed so hard. Seems like units lacked coordination and manpower. Utter failure as an offensive yeah.
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https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/745758798028103681

>Ivan Sidorenko @IvanSidorenko1 3 minhace 3 minutos Ver traducción

>#Syria #Damascus #EastGhouta #EasternGhouta #SAA #SyrianArmy Operation to ReOpen Damascus/Homs International Highway

After Al-Barahiya was captured yesterday, SAA is trying to pull back FSA/Nusra out of the M5 in Damascus
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Sorry I've been away a long time, but where is Marc?
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>>78209467
turkey is the most powerful army in the middle east

>iran can have you

kek
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>>78207509
I wonder if you have ever fucked anything two-legged in your life
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>>78209562
Raqqah slaughter
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>>78209467
>iran can have you

top kek
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>>78209486
So you are new. They got fucked very badly a year ago, this is nothing compared to it.

>It's probably going to be worse with NSA in the south.
What makes you think that?
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>>78209362
>Al-Bab

Not a terrible idea. But Honestly, a slow grind towards Deir-Ezzor while the take Damascus, Homs, Latakia and Aleppo one at a time is probably the best for Assad.

Deir Ezzor is important for maintaining government presence in the Northeast so it must be a high priority, but they just can not sustain 3+ offensives. Deir Ezzoir + finishing off rebel pockets is the best strategy since siege has failed.
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>>78209568
>what is morale
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>>78209899

Actually, i think they're thinking the same way, after al, in West Damascus they are making gains in Darayya and making deals with FSA to leave the area to get the rest move into Idlib
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>>78208748
kek russians and assad is useless. he doesn't have an army
they just can bomb random civilian areas without checking
everyone who supports assad is mad, assad should be killed and syria should be split.
Latakia to Lebanon, Other parts to create a different state
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>>78210218
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>>78209827
'''''''''''GETTING REKT IN OPEN DESERT WITH TANKS AND AIRSUPPORT''''''''''''''''''''''
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>>78209682
It's in jail, but we have new autists instead
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>>78210218
this, assad is getting desperate and losing competent men every day and he has to resort to drafted alawite soldiers and foreign militias
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>>78209486
Allepo offensive is not fully failed. They did not control any of the city of Allepo before and now they have a strong foothold in it and the rebels lines on the outskirts of the city are completely vulnerable, as long as they can continue to hold in the city until more men can be brought to bear.

It appears to me that the only major setback they've had is ISIS in Raqqa. The reason ISIS didn't mass to relieve Manbij is because American Airpower is decisive in that conflict. The SAA isn't as well supported however.

I think the generals got a little over confident and they should have definitely prepared a defense. It was well established that ISIS was planning to counter-attack. If they had destroyed the mass of ISIS fighters in the counter-attack it would have been decisive in the region.
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>>78208656
There are no good guys there - if Sunnis and Shiites keep killing each other and pick off a Russian (and maybe even an occasional Turk), everything's good.

Our SOP should be to keep Muslims busy killing each other and not us.
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>>78210577
hahahah their "air support" can't do shit :D
Assad is going to fail soon :D
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>>78210753
>if Sunnis and Shiites keep killing each other

I wonder who is behind that post :D
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>>78210702
As opposed the the FSA and ISIS who are 100% native syrian dindus right?
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>>78209844
>>78209695

Just goes to show who's actually the paranoid here, I didn't spell out that they're going to surpass you in the energy market but turks are already expecting a fullscale invasion.
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>>78210667
Seriously? you have a source please?
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>>78211014
fsa is 90% syrian
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>>78211014
>ISIS and FSA have foreign fighters
>That means Assad having foreigners is ok
:D
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>>78205550
Truck @ 2:34 in your vid is SAA, looks like the one in this vid @ 4:21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlPS7XwRcP0

Interesting to watch a front like change hands, with a POV from both sides.
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>>78211054
>energy market
>what is goat fucking saudi arabia

turkey does way better than iran ans it has no oil,
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>>78211102
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>>78211152
Provide any reason why it is not.

The majority of Syrians live willingly in government controlled regions.

The Syrian people have spoken and they're under attack by foreign jihadists who are parading around the country killing Syrian citizens.

Why are the lawful President and his government not allowed to call for aid? Particularly when there are many countries arming the foreign 'rebels'?
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>>78205085

>GOODBYE IVAN SIRODENKO

Can someone explain this? I been gone for a while, was he killed or did he just delete his tweeter?

Also this week has been utterly embarassing for Assad's forces. Russia needs to act NOW in terms of bringing in their troops. I feel terrible for any Russian troops under the command of the SAA, it's like being on a cruise ship where each crewmember has down syndrome.
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>>78211413
whats wrong with muslims helping their brothers from oppression?

we all know assad isnt really a representative of the syrian people, hes a dictator
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>>78211536
He deactivated his Twitter. It seems to be back now.
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>>78211284
But he came back after this story.
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>>78209695
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>>78211413
>The majority of Syrians live willingly in government controlled regions.
Yes, because Assad bombs the living shit out of not government controlled zones.
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>>78211214
>turk taking credit for saudi oil fields
yes Turkey did a great job in the 20th century, under pro west anti-muslim rule.
Iran meanwhile was sanctioned internationally from the 1980 onward . . . until now.

Sunni supremacists are basically rats btw
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>>78211413
>The majority of Syrians live willingly in government controlled regions.
Living there doesn't mean they like Assad. People might live for safety or not getting involved in conflict. inb4: election/ i know most people don't like our dictator but he still "wins"
Also what about others who don't like assad? Should they be bombed with russian air force? because they don't want assad?

>The Syrian people have spoken and they're under attack by foreign jihadists who are parading around the country killing Syrian citizens.
What about other foreign groups that help assad and kill syrians?

>lawful President and his government
you mean dictator who got the power from his dad?
also i do agree they should give aid and not make civilians suffer because of assad. but that is not argument for assad.
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>>78211628
What oppression are they suffering under? There have been many examples posted by Syrians and reporters of how much better life is in government controlled regions.

The rebellion was always a jihad, and from the first year it was filling it's ranks with Uzbeks and Chechens and Qataris.

No world leader is a 'representative' of their people. Even in a democracy the elected leader is only representative of a fraction of the population.

Assad may not have a democractic mandate, but the overwhelming support he experiences in the country (including in elections since 2012) and the fact that Syrians would rather live under his government than under the rebels does give him legitimacy as a representative of the people.

Not to mention that legitimacy is completely unrelated to what form of government is in operation. Dictators are legitimate.
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>>78211851
And he should. People in those zones are colluding with terrorists and traitors to their country.
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>>78211776
Yeahh, the last time I saw him, he said he can't post anymore. So I guess the police is watching him or something like that.
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>>78211909
>yes Turkey did a great job in the 20th century, under pro west anti-muslim rule.
not really, erdogan was pretty good

and im saying oil is not a good indicator, rafidi are worst than jews
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>>78211054
Iran has no literally Armoured forces other than old Soviet junk, hell they don't even have any attack helicopters their only land force strategy is to force an invader into urban and geurilla warfare and use human wave tactics... They have pretty fanatical soldiers thanks to their Islamic shiiites though.

Iran has noAir Force. there are just so few left after the Iraq-Iran War.

Their Navy is a joke.
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>>78209534
>>78209419
Looks like there's still hope in Syria
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>>78212089
>>78212168
look at these mental gymnastics
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>>78212211
thx my friend you make my day with this jpg.
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>>78212221
>rafidi are worst than jews
What is wrong with Shias?
What is wrong with Jews?
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>>78211940
>Living there doesn't mean they like Assad. People might live for safety or not getting involved in conflict.

If they are not opposed to living under his protection they can not be very serious about opposing him.

>Also what about others who don't like assad? Should they be bombed with russian air force? because they don't want assad?

If they work with terrorists they are taking the risk of being bombed, yes. That is how life works.

What about people who do not like Trudeau? Guess what, we still have to live with him. Government is not fair. Imagine.

>What about other foreign groups that help assad and kill syrians?

Syrians who are subverting the legitimate government and assisting foreign powers in the destruction of the Syrian state in an attempt to replace it an Islamist one? They are combatants. They can be killed.

>you mean dictator who got the power from his dad?

How is a dictator less legitimate than any other leader? Please enlighten us.
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>>78212269
I said that already, good thing you won't get into either Syria or Iraq so it will never be an issue.
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>>78212520
>What is wrong with Shias?
they are murderers and liars
>What is wrong with Jews?
desu f.a.m l.a.m i have no problem against jews they are pretty based, its just that israel can sometimes exaggerate
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>>78212437
>live with jihadists
>support jihadists
>get bombed like jihadists

but why am I wasting my time with you? You probably think every building in Aleppo really is a hospital.
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>>78212659
>implying
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>>78212269
All of that is due to sanctions. Iran will purchase Su-30 fighters and maybe even procure T-90MS tanks. That alone would let them take on Turkey and win.
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>>78212794
Literally 1 bad day away from war with Greece, Cyprus, and the UK.
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>>78212740
>dictatorships are fine guys

>if you disagree i bomb you

>well if they live under his iron fist they must love him right?

>trudeau isnt a dictator btw

>shia islamists are cool but not sunni islamists
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>>78212935
see how iran fights against goatfucking nusra in aleppo

iran is arab tier
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>Ottoman When posts in each and every /sg/

Probably one of the most obnoxious autistic posters ever on /pol/. He's like the fusion of 100 elite Australian shitposters. I always wondered whether he's paid to do this, which isn't far fetched considered that Ergodan
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>>78212599
>If they are not opposed to living under his protection they can not be very serious about opposing him.
Fear doesn't mean that they support him. most people are ready to give up fight for safety

>If they work with terrorists they are taking the risk of being bombed, yes. That is how life works.
Not all of them support nusra. there were people protesting against nusra there. also some fight/support SDF

>How is a dictator less legitimate than any other leader? Please enlighten us.
Well, he forced his power upon people without their will? is this not enough? shouldn't governments represent people?
>>78212709
>they are murderers and liars
>implying all of them
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>>78212794
>implying

also
>not the whole world red, white, and blue
Turkish independence is a sole result of the Soviet Union. You and your leaders exist at the United States whim.
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>>78213085
>monarchies are OK
>president for life is OK
>Sharia is OK
>AQ is OK
>'democractic' revolution is legitimate when all the fighters are from central asia & qatar

Go back to Pakistan
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You twats who think that this war is BECAUSE " MUH FREEDOM , MUH DEMOCRACY , MUH ASSAD IS AN EBIL DICTATOR " are fucking retarded , you think the US gives a fuck about some sandniggers ? This is gepolitical shit , the US plan to destabilize syria was planned long ago , to make israel and saudi arabia happy , and ofc to kick out the russians from the mediterranean sea, they used the same shit in lybia and all these bullshit " arab spring " , but nobody remembers the arab spring in SAUDI ARABIA or qatar where the army did the same thing as in syiria ( yet the media and the US didn t say shit )
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>>78213291
>my ass is on fire :D
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The Kurds..oh, I mean the multiethnic, democratic SDF, get some serious air support at Manbij:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a4V4cpo8Fc
Video from 4 hours ago.
An A-10 in the first dew seconds. Or someone is farting, I'm no military expert.
Also, one explosion looks like a heart :3
Picture is the captured western roundabout.
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>>78213085

So should we bomb each and every country we consider a dictator? Why haven't we gone after North Korea yet? Syria is smalltime compared to North Korea's brutal regime.

You're an idiot, this is all about resources primarily oil and NATO complete dominance in the area along with pipeline benefits of Saudi Arab and Turkey who want their influence in all other Middle Eastern countries.
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>>78213452
you fucked his mom good, my teacher :DDDD
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>>78213412
my map is realistic except the greek part
>>78213422
it started as a democratic revolution but assad killed most of them to repress it, so the moslem brothers came to help out
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>>78213435
ok so the USA is establishing is homogeneity

an advantage for all who live in the west and are NATO allies

so why is this a a bad thing again?
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>>78213216
IRGC != Iranian Army

Turkey is pretty close to Arab tier too 2bh. Only reason they are killing so many "PKK members" is because of genocidal tendencies found in Turkroaches.
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>>78213675
>so the moslem brothers came to help out
you mean al-nusra came to take advantage of situation with foreign fighters and have control over syria?
but they kinda failed because some part of their force created ISIS and claimed their own state
but some realized that isis won't be recognized by world so they didn't fully join isis
:DDD
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>>78213675
No it didn't. It started as a Saudi-funded, American backed coupe by radical Islamists hiding behind protestors.

99% of those protestors never wanted to pick up a weapon. And just as in Ukraine, the government did not fire the first shots or set the first cars and buildings on fire.
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>>78213783
You have an advantage is syria is a shithole ?
What kind of retard are you?
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>>78213890
>IRGC != Iranian Army
The Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (Persian: سپاه پاسداران انقلاب اسلامی / Sepāh-e Pāsdārān-e Enqelāb-e Eslāmi, or Sepāh for short), often called Revolutionary Guards or Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) by the English-speaking or U.S. media, is a branch of Iran's Armed Forces, founded after the Iranian revolution on 5 May 1979

>Turkey is pretty close to Arab tier too 2bh. Only reason they are killing so many "PKK members" is because of genocidal tendencies found in Turkroaches.
proof

>>78214031
yeah but nusra is just cannonfodder, after they are used they will be deposed of
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>>78213085
>shia islamists are cool but not sunni islamists

bro it's not Shias that are shooting up nightclubs and rock concerts in western nations

the only reason why Hezbollah even gets a mention in the western press is because Israel hates them so much
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>>78213675
>revolutions are not controlled meme
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>>78213783
American hegemony is not in anybody's best interests except their own.

Just look at the countries devastated by America's quest for global control. Look at the rise of radical Islam. Look at South America.

All of those are consequences of America's hegemony and their quest to expand.
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>>78213675
no, it isn't.
If america steps back from Syria you'll be on your way to a treaty group like this, struck by RUssia at the end of the Syrian war, led by Egypt, Iran, and Turkstain.

Wahabbi expansionism already peaked with Saudi arabia. We shia power brokers now.
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>>78214265
america gets more bases, oil and russia weakens

good for america = good for us
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>>78214303
>yeah but nusra is just cannonfodder, after they are used they will be deposed of
>implying most of "rebel" groups didn't pledge allegiance to Nusra
>implying their new rule won't be another excuse of war for usa in name of "fighting terrorism"
what is afganistan? what is iraq? why do you forget so easily
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>>78214503
>Egypt
also i already know you are shia sectarian
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>>78214602
yup but then after they get btfo like al qaeda in iraq, syria will become a new democratic state
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what do you lads think russia will do? its paifully obvious by now if they want to prop assad theyll have tto do much much much more than random bombings here and there.
will they abandon assad and force him to accept a two-three state solution? or will they ante up? or will they trade the syria situatoin with something else?
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>>78214798
>syria will become a new democratic state
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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>>78214303
In case you stopped reading at that point
>Whereas the regular military (artesh) defends Iran's borders and maintains internal order, according to the Iranian constitution, the Revolutionary Guard (pasdaran) is intended to protect the country's Islamic system.

One is paramilitary, the other is a military.

>proof
Pic related. PKK member rescues another killed PKK members after low intensity anti-terror operation conducted by the glorious Turkish Army.
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>>78214726
>i already know you are shia sectarian
actually you're projecting on account of being a literal canadian sunni apologist.
Did you see I included TURKEY in that group? how is the shia separatist movement over there? Egypt is back in comfortable military dictatorship, everyone realized 2011 was a mistake.
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Why was the last thread deleted?
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>>78214842
>try to use syria as leverage for ukraine
>"no"
>cykka blyatt :DDDD
>assad gets btfo
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>>78215103
Lol
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>>78215103
still the same training and arms
>>78215155
ok but it wont be a shia power you retard
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There is an absolute black-out of information about the Syrian war in all western media outlets.

What the fuck are they doing, if not reporting on this stuff?

Good lord this is ridiculous...
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>>78215364
oh but they'll be by far the most powerful economy, even if Israel is allowed in. If turks want a piece of rebuilding Iraq and Syria they will have to play nice
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>>78214842
I dont think russian command thinks that retreating 10-15km and losing 10-20 soldiers is a big deal f.am
If russians would have died there, we probably could have acted like "Hur dur revenge" and scorch something, like we started to scorched latakian turkmen area.

But when it comes to the tabqa retreat, russian mass media didn't even mention it.

I also think that there is a chance that they got out because Shoigu told them too, and they are not appointing next target because Shoigu told them that "Only fucking idiots are publicly appointing the next target"
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>>78215626
like we scorched latakian turkmen area*
>sleepyfix
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>>78215364
>still the same training and arms
Unlikely, since one has almost exclusively asymmetric capabilities while the other is for conventional warfare.
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would be great to have a 10 hour compilation of syria war footage instead of 10 hours long stupid shit repeating youtubevideos
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>>78214798
my FUCKING SIDES


ignore this TURKO LEAF
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>>78215103
hezbollah is paramilitary in lebanon and its way more experienced and combat ready than lebanon army.
irgc is shit tho and their army is probably shit as well, with the long standing arms embargos and all..

>>78215235
they wont trade syria for ukraine, more likely for something economic related like the sanctions from the eu.

>>78215626
its obvious not only because of the raqqa disaster but from the general look of things. if the effort from the russia-assad-iran side was enough wed have seen major changes in the war status. so far the only major change is kurds btfoing everyone. russians seem to care about latakia because turk linked rebels were dangerously close to their bases. they dont really seem to care about anywhere else.

also a russian soldier got killed near palmyra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnQwF7BwuY
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>>78215604
>the most powerful economy
prove it
>>78215870
false, they give high training tot he revolutionary guards, who keep the army in check in case of a coup
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>>78205519
>tactical withdrawal
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>>78216241
True. We can only assess the IRGC though but I won't expect much better from the Iranian Army. But often, new military equipment is a catalyst for reform and modernization.
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>>78216241
Yeah i know about him, but he is a contract soldier he knew what he is signing for.

Shame he was only one who didnt ran tho.

Our overall casualties in Syria are lower than casualties that we are sometimes having at the 10k-50k army drills in Russia.

We are sometimes joking that civil war Syria is a safer place than peaceful Russia kek.
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>>78216314
I wasn't saying how one of them got better training, I was saying they receive different training.

The Army outnumbers the IRGC quite significantly too.
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>>78216675
You serve(d)?
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>>78210956

The majority of non-muslims on the planet who isn't an insane liberal.
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>>78216905
Iam a former conscript and thats it, not much of a soldier.
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>>78216675
well dont you agree that they have to send some troops whose first instinct is not to run, in order to achieve some results? iranians seem incapable of that , saa is mostly dead , who does that leave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EpLqTEO0F4

look at these motherfuckers they are tooled-up as fuck.
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>>78216968
>not a muslim
>not a liberal
also half jew and i don't support extremists because they kill each-other.
well ?
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>>78217165
Ahh, like almost everyone else.
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>>78216784
point is they suck at war
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>>78217361
Of course i agree, but more i look at Syrian war and at arabs in general, more i understand that generally recognized military doctrine doesnt work there.
At some point i just got tired of going "what the fuck are you doing"
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>>78205085
cyka blyat. See you, space cowboy.

We will remember you when this is all over.
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>>78209419
>>78209455
So it was just a publicity stunt? kek, not bad
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>>78218159
So does every other nation in the area. From Turkey to India.
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>>78218323
Don't know why would he want to do that. He already has a small cult following on a Tibetan smoke signal forum.
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>Info about 3 Russian soldiers dead in a burnt truck on #Athria - #Raqqa road is false. Syria has this trucks too.

https://twitter.com/SyriaWarReports/status/745756869323530240

>>78218566
Yeah, pretty weird.
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>>78218225
Where did they get the AK-103?
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>>78218225
Prolly lost his buddy Ahmed
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>>78218225
>when the young uyghur boy arrives and suddenly youre not Iman's favourite little mujahedin anymore
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>"alright time to catch up with Syria"
>See this
What did I miss?
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>>78219282
link me that map pls.
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>>78219465
Literally in the OP
http://mideast.liveuamap.com/
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>>78218972
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>>78207509
Well, I fucked your dad and your dog happened...
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>>78219609
>▶
top
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My question was the last post before the thread was deleted......... nobody made a new thread for a while either.

Again: Looking at the maps, what changed significantly? The SAA offensive failed but where are the "horrible casualties"? Is everyone just fucking exaggerating because I don't see much difference, especially when ISIS counter attack is being stalled and their reinforcements have been hit already.
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>>78218765
>About 3
>About

>They have a photo of a medical kit, Kamaz and land around it
>Yet no pictures of bodies or bodyparts

>Author says that they are russians because Kamazes are made in Russia

Arabs/10
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>>78219999
nice quads
this graph is cnofsufing
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>mexico lose 7-0 (im mexican)
>syrian army collapses in all fronts
>trump's campaign in shambles
Damn, this has been a terrible week. I hope Brexit wins or I'll get depressed.
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>>78219999
Well, when you lose that much land, you usually also lose as much men. It'd be a different story if they pulled off an organized withdrawal, but come on.
>SAA
>Organized
>Pick one
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>>78220293
It's been a terrible week so far. What makes you think it'll get better?
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>>78220293

I'm Chilean, get REKT Juan

Also i'm sad about SAA
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>>78220269
ty

>>78220326
As far as I know they have suffered less than 100 casualties. I just don't where where some hysteria is coming from?
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>>78218215
Assad has had massive trouble consolidating a fighting force there's pockets of resistance all over the country, it's an entire clusterfuck.

Every single one of these offensives you may say would have been better off if a million different things had happened.

These pockets of resistance continue to exist all over the country, when they get to the point they near destruction they join a ceasefire and promptly saved the bulk of their fighters travel freely into other rebel held territories and continue to fight. Add to this Turkey supplying men and arms to the Allepo region.

There's not a lot that can be done.
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>>78220829
Considering they've been having manpower deficits already, that's a pretty big deal, yes.
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>>78220293
Assad got cocky and overextended, ISIS must had a morale boost after the Orlando shooting too.
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>>78221201
Holy shit, ISIS is literally Chaos Undivided. KEK
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>>78221467
I know right, that almost makes them likeable but then you remember they hate all things funs and enjoyable.
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>>78221201
Assad reasoned that they would be diverting forces to the defense of Manbij, but the SDF actually abandoned their push on Raqqa because they considered it too heavily defended after having probed it earlier. Truth is, I think Assad should be focusing on Securing Homs Allepo and Damascus right now. These pockets of resistance all over the countryside should be crushed.
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>>78205085
Daily reminder that kurds are backstabbing commies who intend to balkanize Syria and keep the agricultural and oil-rich parts of Syria for themselves.
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>>78220473
>What makes you think it'll get better?
Nothing, I'll probably just ignore everything and watch anime non-stop for some weeks.

>>78220693
Yeah you already laughed at me that day, our team is a mess.
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>>78221873
This is silly and I don't believe it. Why would Assad go out of his way to help his potential rival?
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>>78222327
Muh niqqa
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Is there any reason not to just chop up the entire area? Sunni/Shia/Christian/Kurd from Iraq to Syria and (just to piss of the roaches) Turkey?
Seriously. The less land and power any one group has the better. And if one starts getting uppity we turn the others against it to knock it down a few notches.
Divided they fall as we laugh from civilization.
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>>78221044
Assad's army numbers are what, 90,000? If anything good job not losing that many.

Anyway, please Assad finish off Damascus as we all know the amount of troops needed for large city urban warfare is draining your strength farther east.

If manpower is such an issue, and there is no use in attacking east, then spend your army securing the only worthy part of Syria which is everything bordering Lebanon, the sea, and Turkey plus 100 kilometers inward. The Desert can come after.

FSA is the biggest threat to Syrian national security.
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>>78222439
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnkaZFxO3zY
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>>78222339
He wasn't going out of his way, look at this strategically. The SDF are making gains fighting ISIS, the only reason the US didn't support the Kurds at first is because of protest from Turkey who preferred the FSA. The FSA failed, ISIS came to power.

Assad needs to gobble up holdings in as much of the country as possible in order to consolidate his power. Raqqa is a major prize for him in that regard. He already controls part of Aleppo.

He or rather his generals were hoping to slip in and grab Raqqa undefended while ISIS was off fighting around Manbij.
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>>78222518
The issue with Syria is he also wants to protect the country from Balkanizing, so he's not trying to consolidate holdings in one area of the country, he's trying to consolidate the whole country. As soon as strong stalemate lines are drawn up it will result in a break.
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>>78222439
This mess wouldn't even be that big a deal if "civilization" didn't support and arm the instigators.
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>>78222916
I have a strange feeling about Turkey becoming a defacto ally of Assad.
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>>78223024
That's the interesting thing, I'm sure Turkey has absolutely zero interest in allowing the Kurds to keep taking areas. So maybe they really do start supporting ISIS. They've definitely increased support to the FSA in the areas bordering Turkey.

There are competing interests in this battle, but honestly I very much doubt that Turkey gets pushed into the new Eastern block through this. If Kurdistan is created, but they get into the EU. I'm sure they'll consider that a worthy trade.

Ficki Ficki, young German lad.
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>>78223024
Is it the same feeling you get when someone on the street calls you a friend, and you see he is hiding a knife behind his back?
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>>78222636
So they just kill each other and starve?
Wow. I couldn't have hoped for a better outcome.

>>78222917
Fuck you. The Olympics are going to fail 'cause you're all niggers.
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>>78222518
90k is not that much, understand that he needs to garrison his territory, patrol, operate crackdowns of islamists in his own cities, he can't just commit all the army on an offensive.
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>>78222916
It is a valid concern but not actionable, as US milfags would say. His strength is all over the place which makes it difficult to overwhelm enemy forces even more so without dedicated Russian support, and I hope he came to that realization after Raqqa.
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>>78223532
Russia already knows this to be true. This is why they're seeking a political solution, they ceasefires were designed to free up forces to fight ISIS and Al Nusra.

The issue is that the rebel factions that are party to the peace talks transfer men and equipment to rebel groups not party to the talks in order to continue the fight.
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>>78223532
Syria should just give all expenses paid trips to anyone who wants to be an EU refugee.

Kills two stones with one bird.
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>>78223357
Turkey will never join the EU simply because of the size of the population. I think Turkey just waits for heavy clashes between FSA/YPG or SAA/YPG to jump in. These clashes will happen, the only question is when will they happen.
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>>78223484

If the Olympics fail I win.
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>>78211851
>live in SAA controlled areas
>don't get bombed
>don't get your head cut off

Seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.
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>>78222518
>>78222916
>>78223517

the damascus pockets are far more difficult than the desert push to tabqa. theres war there with tanks and snipers and bombings since 2012. remember the gopros of tanks rolling in a city chaos and getting btfoed? that was there. its a hellhole.
theres been some very slight process in the city right next to darayya and in east ghouta but it is very far from getting finished off. and then theres that other damascus pocket thats half isis half isis lite where theres been some infighting recently.

meanwhile a little to the north i dont even know what hezbollah and co are trying to accomplish in madaya and zabadani. they just siege and starve the population.
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At this point, it makes you wonder if Russia and the USA or just fuckin with the Mudscum to maximize the filthy muslim body count.

Probably not, but it is a good image to think about.
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>>78222518
>>78222916
oh yeah forgot to say the oil rich parts are around deir ezzor and raqqa so he cant let them alone. the oil tycoon thats funding the desert hawks was supposed to take control of these fields on the way to tabqa but they failed miserably as we saw
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So Mohammad Jobar was the commander responsible for the SAA Raqqa fuck up.
The action was taken in response to US/SDF movements towards Raqqa in an attempt to beat them there. As typical, it was a ruse. The SDF are going to push along the north.
But Jobar is an idiot with a typically inflated Arab ego. When the Russians worked out the ruse, they instructed the SAA and allies to withdraw. Most of them did.
Jobar didn't. He thought he could take on ISIS with a 1km wide front.
He got cut off and destroyed.

With no actual threat to Raqqa from the SDF at this time, the SAA are pulling back to Ithriya and are likely going to focus elsewhere. Probably southern Aleppo.

More interestingly, the RuAF assets that left during the ceasefire and wind down have started returning to the Hmeymim airbase.
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>>78226814
EXECUTE
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>>78226814
>not obeying their slav overlords
Fucking idiot
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>>78226814

Fucking idiots
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>>78219999
>Assad doesn't do the same thing
>All Moderates are the same.
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Ivan is back.
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Fat man messed up all the glory he had from Lattakia and Palmyra. If they want to get it back they'll send Desert Hawks to Lattakia and close the border with Turkey completely then move on to Jisr al-shughur so they can look down on Idlib.
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>>78229376
AYY
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I'll do a photo dump

Here is a beautiful picture of Russian Troops and a Mi-8AMTSh at Hmeimim, June 2016.
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Recent exercise of a few Su-35S pilots back in Russia, June 2016.
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Sunset picture of a Su-30SM with the airbrake up, June 2016.
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More from that same photoshoot.

Unfortunately some of the photos are too large for 4chan.
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A few more of the Su-30SM, June 2016. Hopefully I can post all of these.
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Nice pics USAbro
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Wanted to upload a picture of the schematics of a new Russian icebreaker that has a sauna, a basketball court, a gym, and a pool but alas that phot is too large as well.

Here is an RAF Tornado, sometime in Q1 2016.
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>>78231694
Thanks buddy

All my recent Russian military pictures are too large for 4chan. Here are some from Eurosatory 2016.
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>>78232091
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>>78232147
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do you have more info about the incoming "deyrezor offensive" ?

because this sounds pretty weird after what happened on hama-raqqa highway (Athriya-Tabqa=80km while Palmyra-DEZ=200km).

don't forget that the SAA has been trying to take Arak and T3 since they retook Palmyra (very long time now) and they are still stuck (i read that IS advanced to the palmyra silos, took talila crossroad and killed dozens of SAA soldiers in VBIED attacks btw)
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The only offensive going on is the one in East of Ghouta, the rest, i don't know anymore
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SAA regiment that have recently taken a slice of Eastern Ghouta.
And yeah Ivan has ressurected
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>thank God we left the desert

So it was actually a planned not-so-terrible retreat to focus on the East Ghouta pocket, that's sounds sweet, the SAA should focus on the inner Syria, not on the desert.

Also, you guys noticed since the return of Hezbollah to the South of Aleppo, the jihadist offensive stalled?
It show us the power level of the groups fighting this war.
God bless Hezbollah
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Is turkey the most pathetic country in the ME? If they aren't whining about how the US won't labels all Kurds terrorists they are whining about how they can't get into the EU.
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Last one here for today. Interesting seeing the vapor produced by the Su-35S compared to the Su-30SM
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Yes, we're pretty much aware that without Hezbollah, the SAA's more than fucked

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>Announcing where you'll ne sent next, tho
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Tigers around Aleppo
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