I am from the republic of Ireland who is visiting Scotland. I am shocked that the Scots look nothing like us Irish but more like the English why is this????
I thought Scots were Celts like us or are they more Germanic???
Scots are fucking ugly
>>78201982
Because they constantly got raped by the inbred Anglos.
>>78201982
Post a picture of a typical Irish person and then a picture of a typical Scottish person from your point of view.
>>78203160
Scottish Person
>>78203160
Irish Person
>>78203882
>>78203983
that's not fair all politicians look deformed in some way.
>>78202795
>he fell for the "Scotland was oppressed by England" meme
Scotland was never conquered. Ireland was.
>>78204276
I'm just don't understand why two peoples who live geographically so close look so different. When they are supposedly both celts
>>78204474
When in reality scotland conquered england
>>78204661
Are you confusing genes with culture? There were alot of germanic and scandinavian settlements of britain,, very few of ireland
Post some examples of male models so we can judge the best of you both.
>>78204759
DELETE THIS
>>78204661
Scottish people are the descendents of Picts, Irish people are the descendents of Gaels and Welsh/Cornish people are the descendents of Britons.. All Celts but they've been distinct from one another for milennia.
>>78205191
Scots and Northern irish also have quite a significant admixture of Norse blood if i'm not mistaken
>>78201982
Because
>SURPRISE SURPRISE
races are irrelevant to attractiveness.
>>78201982
Despite the Irish fantasy of having colonized Scotland it is not remotely true.
Scotland's original population were Brythonic Celts (akin to the welsh) throughout the south and central and eastern Scotland. Norse-Irish took the western highlands and Western Galloway only. Northumbrian (Angles) then came and ruled from the Humber to the Forth and all the way west to the Nith. Then Normans came, and Flems and other Europeans.
So obviously the ethnic makeup is significantly different to the Irish.
Scots in language and in people was never in large amounts. They just won against the pics and became the ruling class, and were dispersed into the population of Angles and Brythonics everywhere except the Western Highlands.
Scots are probably the least "Celtic" people as a whole of all the "celtic" nations.
>>78205191
Wow I never knew that. Thanks for answering my question.
There was never a migration of Celtic people from Europe, just a cultural migration.
>>78203882
im scottish you fucking idiot, if you think hes an average scottish person your insane
>>78205449
Really unless a persons name is of Gaelic origin they aren't related to Scots/Gaels/Irish. Most Scots have pretty Anglo names.
>>78205449
Yeah that makes sense. The Scots don't really seem that Celtic in comparison with other Celtic peoples.
>>78205629
No he is an indigenous Scot. I've noticed other Scottish guys that have very similar facial features hair colour etc than he does.
Us Irish tend to have fairer hair and eyes and sharper facial features.
>>78201982
It's because the Irish are originally from Africa.
>>78204474
I'm not talking about who conquered who. The scots mated more with the English than the Irish mated with the English. That's fact.
>>78205406
Yes you're right, most English people living in the east of the country do too, I think the Welsh and the Cornish are the only ones who never had any significant contact with Norse peoples, but then again we were under Roman rule for 300+ years so I don't know if there's any genetic impact from them left here or not.
>>78205472
It's alright, linguistically though, Scottish Gaelic and Irish are very similar, like Welsh, Cornish and Breton are to eachother.
>>78205472
>>78201982
Because Scots are the real Celts. We are just Celts diluted by Normans.
>>78201982
Celts are NOT an ethnic group.
It was a culture and even the language varied.
It makes me laugh to see Irish and Scots trying as hard as they can, to forge a distinct identity from the mainland Britons.
'Celtish' culture died out over 1000 years ago and only kept alive by 'Muh heritage Americans' and a handful of kids.
Sorry to burst peoples bubbles but there we go!
>>78201982
Mexican intellectuals sent an envoy of scholars prior to white makes destroying their civilization.
>>78206249
>>78206165
No. The English just are the result of Norman-Roman-Celtic-Anglo Saxon racebreeding. The Irish are just descendents of pagan mongoloids.
>>78206238
Normans only got to Leinster. Never conquered Ireland.
The Celts are only in the highlands. If you're in the south then you're observing Anglo-Saxons.
>>78206520
>muh heritage delusion
see here >>78206249
>>78206249
This.
Celtic culture is from central Europe. Celts are not a people in any sort of Genetically similar way. It is purely cultural.
Gaels share population similarities as do say Welsh and Cumbrians and Brittons.
Celtic as a concept is a bit of an invention by nationalist/separatist groups.
>>78206165
>one infographic created by an english protestant in the 18th century
>accurate
>>78206704
Thanks vodkabro . . .. evidence seems to lead to an origin somewhere in the Alpine region but even then - others say it goes into Kurgan Russia.
>>78206995
Kurgan hypothesis is better unless you're a faggot :^)
>>78206690
Suck my ass, Mohammed.
>>78201982
After the highland clearance we are pretty much English with pretend accents until you hit the top of the hills and islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Clearances
>>78207119
> Mohammed.
Can you see my county flag?
No . . .because you are a wanker . . .. No mussies or niggers anywhere near me.
>>78206995
the Bell Beaker/Le tene Alpine cultures seem to have given birth to it, but the Kurgan hypothesis is interesting, as there are genetic similarities with Kurgans and Western "Celtic" population. We may never really know.
>>78207399
>beaker people
I'm impressed you have some knowledge on this, have a drink on me.
>>78207538
Cheers. Population genetics and anthropology are a passion.
>>78207755
>Cheers
I see you picked up English colloquialisms too?
>>78208048
Spent a lot of time in the UK.
>>78208726
Wow. As a student or working?
The only Russians I have come across are ethnic Russians from Latvia and a few from Ukraine (who ran here to avoid national service)
>>78206704
>Celts are not a people in any sort of Genetically similar way
Eh...pic related.
Autosomally, yes, they're like everyone else in western Europe, but...
>>78210078
Rubbish Haplogroup . . .kys.
>>78210198
>rubbish haplogroup
As opposed to the good haplogroups? Eabodadiaf.
>>78201982
Us Scots are actually Picts. It's just that Celts were here first and us Scots aren't just parochially racist, but thick too.
![2000px-England_878.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/T8hwHsH.jpg "2000px-England_878.svg[1].png")
>>78201982
Lowland Scots are indistinguishable from English and are considered Germanic
Lowland Scotland had similar levels of Germanic immigration from Germany/Scandanavia as England
>>78210388
This cartoon you posted means absolutely fuck all . .. you know that right?
>>78210600
And this map is just as shit too.
>>78209474
Working yes.
>>78210078
Celts are much more than just Gael and Britons you know. That is the common logotype on those areas. Its unrelated to the Celts across the rest of Europe. Celt is not a genetic term, not a phenotype and certainly not a haplotype.
>>78210402
Picts were only the East of Scotland. Brithonic Celts in the central and lowlands were never called Picts, though they assumption is that they are all related.
>>78201982
Celt is more a culture than an ethnicity. We were celt before, the english too, and the original celts were living on an area in central europe.
>>78211208
Common haplotype*
>>78201982
different interactions
>>78210821
How is shit
It's literally just a historical map
The Anglo kingdom of Northumbria didn't stop at Hadrians wall, It extended into Scotland
During the early medieval period when many Anglos, Saxons, Jutes and Vikings came to Britain, they didn't just settle in modern day England, they also settled in Scotland.
And don't give me the old "They just changed the language, ethnic replacement can't happen on large scales", because they've dug up plenty of skeletons and It's estimated the average English and lowland Scot gets at least 40% of their DNA from the Germanic invaders
>>78203160
South Side Irish Pride, yo. The Original Irish were Black. Whitey appropriated Black Irish heritage.
>>78211620
You only need to look at the surnames in the borders and all the way up the east coast. They aren't Gaelic they are Anglo.
>>78210821
>I don't know how SNPs work
Ok.
>its unrelated to the Celts across the rest of Europe
There are no Celts across the rest of Europe in any meaningful sense.
I think the fact that half of the men in extant "Celtic nations" share direct patrilineal descent from a common ancestor 4,500 years ago is somewhat interesting, coupled with the fact that our oldest M269 remains all evince steppe admixture (even those found beyond the steppe that are xL23) that most European populations retain to this day and the subclades grow progressively younger the further west you go. Add in the fact that L21 (predominantly insular Celtic), U152 (I'd label it Romano-Celtic or continental Celtic) and U106 (very obviously Germanic) were all born within a few centuries of each other, and it paints a somewhat compelling picture of western European genetic history.
>>78211978
That rather seems to be his point.
>>78212567
MUH HERITAGE!!
>>78212678
Yes I was agreeing stupid American.
>>78212839
That response makes no sense in this language, Slavaboo.
>>78213065
This is now an American hate thread.
>>78211620
It's NOT an historic map.
I come from the West Country and the County I live in comes under the umbrella of Wessex, your 'map' bears no resemblance to this.
I am not an expert on British Genealogy but I am fairly well versed with my own region and the surrounding areas.
>>78204916
>very few Scandinavian settlements in Ireland
Mate, ever settlement on our east coast were viking settlements. Wexford = Veisafjǫrðr, Waterford = Veðrafjǫrðr, Dublin = Dyflin, etc.
>>78213265
It's something he found on wikipedia.
But he's an America, he knows everything.
>>78213233
Seems more like "I hit the wall of my knowledge of genetics, cyka" thread.
>>78213416
>But he's an American, he knows everything.
No surprises there then!
>>78213416
>Australia is now America
>>78213350
This
Australia = almost as stupid as America, but with a better sense of humor.
>>78213529
>another vote for Australia is America
>>78213622
That guy is now our head of state
>>78213416
>America is now Australia.
Next New Zealand.
>>78213462
You don't understand the 1st thing about population genetics. R-L21 is just a subclade of R1b common to the British isles. They happen to be "Celtic" in language and historically in culture. That does not make all "Celts" R-L21.
Would you like some fries with that?
>>78213902
Really? haha
>>78201982
We have Pict blood as well you faggot
>>78214436
>the assumption is that they were all related
on top of this theres the Anglo-Saxon mixing in the lowlands which would've slowly spread up
the north also had large amounts of Norse interaction and (I believe) the West had a lot more Flemish interaction, though I could be wrong on that one
This is all after the Romans raped us a few times as well so I'd assume there is at least a small amount of genetic impact from then, especially if the theory about the Lost Legion settling instead of being wiped out is true.
>>78214129
You entirely missed the point. Y-DNA SNPs don't magically appear out of the ether.
>>78213350
>on our east coast were viking settlements
Doesn't Donegal mean fort of the foreigner or similar too?
>>78213233
Most famous German: Karl the great (french called him charlemange)
Most famous Russian: Stalin
Most famous Macedonian: Alexander
Most famous Frenchman: Napoleon
Most famous Turk: Tamerlane
Most famous pole: Zizek
>>78214854
The Roman impact on Genetics would be minimal and probably too small to detect in modern populations. Also at that time in history it was mostly auxiliaries stationed in Northern Britain and they came from all over Europe - probably weren't that different from the native population.
Anglo influence as far north as Aberdeen is pretty ancient given the origins of Doric Scots.
Not sure about Flemish influence, they seem to have come as wealthy land owners and merchants and settled all over.
>>78214854
>theres the Anglo-Saxon mixing in the lowlands which would've slowly spread up
????? . . .according to a 1950 Ladybird Book of History!
Roman genetics are pretty much non-existent in Brits and almost undetectable.
Donne = Dun = Fort
Gal = Gael.
Maybe you are thinking Galway/Galloway (Literally Gaels from away) as in Norse-Irish?
>>78215479
>>78215578
thanks for the correction on the Roman stuff lads
>>78215688
Gall = foreigner/stranger.
>>78215141
>Most famous Russian: Stalin
Always thought this would have been Catherine?
>>78215803
Thanks burger that makes sense.
>>78215975
Depends who you ask.
Who's the most famous American, or Brit?
>>78215975
>>78215789
I'm not saying that Roman culture didn't have an influence . . . .because it did.
And I have ho doubt that Roman ficki-ficki din't happen. . . .because it's almost certain that it did.
But it was fairly regular practise, even in Recent times to get rid of unwanted babies, even throwing them in sewers, it was quite common actually.
>>78216378
They were only in Scotland for what, 80 years? Again mostly auxiliaries and not really in significant numbers.
That's a pretty small impact.
>>78216163
Most famous American is normally either Lincoln or Washington here
Brit I have no idea what people consider the most famous, Diana or Lizzy seeing as the royalty has became a fad among people from different countries and normies don't give a shit about History?
whats your take on those 3?
>>78216363
>tfw you sperg out at 1am
I'm too tired senpai
>>78217184
My point is it depends who you ask.
American: Henry Ford
Brit: Darwin
Russian: My cousin Yanish who gets good weed.
>>78217184
I worked hard on that troll list for a good two minutes, the least you can do is appreciate it instead of taking it seriously.
>>78217392
No one takes American seriously.
>>78216882
The Romans mostly lived in villas and kept themselves to themselves.
It's funny because in the town where I live we had a large Italian POW camp. They were put to work on farms, building and even digging a huge drainage river.
They were so placid that most of them were allowed to walk around on their own (wearing POW uniforms of course) . . .after the war most of them never went home but wanted to stay in Britain . . .. they became Ice-cream salesman and builders.
>>78215141
Famous German : Wilhelm II
Russian: Stalin
Macedonian: Alexander
French: Napolean
Turk: Suleiman?
Pole: Pope John Paul II
>>78217522
Are you from Orkney?
The Italians there built the Churchill barriers and that great little chapel. I liked the story that they were all allowed to wonder free and many stayed because Scots were so kind to them.
>>78217491
Says russian
>>78217622
Who's the most famous Irish person (not including (Irish Americans)?
Michael Collins?
Are there any famous Australians other than Steven Irwin and crocodile dundee?
>>78217622
The joke was that none of those people were of the respective nationality.
>>78217705
No I'm from Somerset.
>>78217956
Oh, I assumed the POWs were all sent up to Scotland. Interesting.
>>78201982
>I am from the republic of Ireland who is visiting Scotland. I am shocked that the Scots look nothing like us Irish but more like the English why is this????
kek, AIDF is real lads.
>>78217392
I assumed you were serious when you mentioned Alexander
and I get mixed up with a lot of the Slavic countries and their historical figures due to a large lack of interest
also the Charlemange point registered as serious because I have a few friends who think he was German irl
Apologies burger
>>78218115
No - we had a 300 person Italian POW camp just outside of Bridgwater Somerset.
>>78217890
>Michael Collins?
Only really relevant in Ireland. One of the great Irish poets or authors would be infinitely more famous and influential globally.
There's also Wellington, who was born in Dublin.
>>78218503
Safe to say it's a short list... haha
>>78217890
Irish would probably be Bernard Shaw
I shudder to think it could be Bono now...
Australians I can't name a single one
Any Aussies awake to tell us?
>>78218731
If you're not familiar with classical literature I'd imagine it would be.
>>78218731
What about Ian Paisley, we're all familiar with him aren't we?
>>78201982
Scots interbred with the Picts, which in turn interbred with Angles, Saxons and Romano-british. Later on, Scots interbred with scandinavians.
This is the result.
>>78218965
Does he count as Irish? lol
>>78218940
I don't consider poetry literature any more than I consider rap music.
Making things rhyme is nigger tier.
The Picts became the Scots when a Celt usurped their throne
>>78218965
He's famous among those who take an interest in Ulster Unionists but his name isn't one that comes up outside of that group at all
>>78219200
>Making things rhyme is nigger tier.
Poetry is far more than just "making things rhyme" lad
its true symbolism put into practice and can be quite beautiful
in my mind its one of the more delicate of the literary arts because, as you say, in the wrong hands it can become nigger tier rhyming and infantile in its me
[spoiler]Muhammad Ali[/spoiler]
>>78218965
Big Ian was my mother's Sunday school teacher in the 60s. She said he was crazy even before he was famous.
>>78219414
>in its me
in its morals and undertones
idk why I forgot to finish that
>>78219402
Picts are indo-european. The Scots invaded Pict lands from northern Ireland using the Dal Riada kingdom.
>>78219414
>Poetry is far more than just "making things rhyme" lad
The only people that write poetry today are niggers (Rap music) and people in Prison because they have nothing else to do.
>>78219200
>Making things rhyme is nigger tier.
A lot of it doesn't rhyme at all, but relies on things like assonance (vowel repetition) and metrical rhythm instead. Don't they still read Pushkin in your country?
>>78219647
>The only people that write poetry today are niggers
Subliterate doggerel isn't "poetry". Read some Yeats or Wordsworth.
>>78219738
>poetry today
>today
did you read what I said?
>>78219182
>>78219402
Stop with the "Picts" thing. Picts were one of many brythonic tribes and were by no means the only population before the Scots.
Scots defeating the Picts was the 1st major victory for expansion, but that didn't even take Scots into the central belt. Lothian and Strathclyde were far more relevant and they were not Picts.
>>78220009
Goodnight Gael and Brythonic bros
Remember to vote for Brexit today!
>>78220009
Yes they were, stupid idiot. Picts were the first tribes to venture to Scotland before Dal Riada and the Irish invaded it. Even the Roman Empire didn't want to conquer it because it had nothing of value to conquer; everything they wanted from Britannia was south of Hadrian's Wall.
Brito-romans didn't want anything with the north; life was already troubling after the official command of rome left britain in the 2nd-3rd century.
Lothian was under domain by the Angles (Scandinavian tribe); Strathclyde was the home of Dal Riada.
>>78220386
Goodnight Borschtbro . . . .. will be voting Leave first thing in the morning.
I'm going to hit the sack too . .. . 02:18Hrs here . . I'm tired.
>>78219647
>>78219647
>The only people that write poetry today are niggers
there are always a few great poets of every age
I assume this will hold true
albeit I hope they don't come from the virtue signalling faggots
>>78220386
night lad
We can make it I swear
>>78201982
Does it really matter? Can't we just drink and move past it?
>>78220504
Picts were in the north east only "stupid idiot". And it was as sparsely populated then as it is now compared to the central belt and borders.
Dal Riada wasn't part of Strathclyde (which was an independent and powerful Brithonic kingdom. it was argyle and the mull of kyntyre, and expanded to include the west highlands.
Lothians were Angle - your only correct statement, and angles are Germanic not Scandinavian.
Now fuck off Paolo.
Pic related - it's you.
>>78221069
damn, bitches workin it
>>78201982
because being celtic isn't an ethnicity, it's closer to a culture. It's just describing the *various* peoples of a general area that share in language and customs.
The traditionally red haired irish shared kinship with the highland scotts, who were predominantly Pict prior to the formation of the "Scots" group as a whole.
Where the lowland scotts were Gaels, traditionally brown haired people.
Of course, by the time the kilt rolled around, they had largely become one ethnicity in scottland.
>>78221069
Get your geographic names straight, Boris. Paolo isn't even portuguese.
Dal Riada was the first kingdom in the Strathclyde region, more specifically in the southern part.
Regardless of being sparsely populated, the majority of people were of Pictish ancestry, until Dal Riada appeared, then conquered the territories previously occupied. Yes, northern Scotland still had Pictish/Celtic influence, but Scots are nothing but people with Irish+Picts ancestry mixed with other britonnic cultures.
>>78206704
I'm a Scot by birth, are you saying I should give up my culture purely because it isn't genetic culture? Fuck you, you vodka swilling potato.
>>78202795
>inbred Anglos
Do you know how stupid that statement sounds? Go read up on English history.
>>78222268
Celts is an umbrella term, just like Germanic.
>>78222268
the Scottish ethnicities are picts and gaels
The Scottish cultures are celts and anglo-saxons
Just figure out which you are.
>>78202795
Aaahhh, the naive Burgerclap saw the word "Irish" and just had to make an appearance
>>78222794
If the english hadn't chased off so much of the irish and the scotts, you wouldn't have so many of us descended from them.
>>78222908
A minority of your population might share some traces of our genes but the sharing stops there
>>78213622
kek
>>78215141
>Stalin
>Russian
>>78223211
I can trace my family line back to three generations in scottland.
And about 10% of all americans reported having irish ancestry alone.
That does't even include scottish ancestry
>>78223693
And yet that 10% has less in common with us than a Mongol
>Both sets of grandparents are from Ireland
>Finally visited family in Ireland
>They were nice
>Everyone else I met was rude and called me plastic when they found out I was American.
Even the Irish don't want to be irish.
>>78204759
>implying the dutch didn't
>>78223812
you realize what 10% of america is, right?
that means there are 5 times as many irish in america as they are irish in IRELAND.
>>78224091
They're not Irish though, they're Americans
>>78215141
Zizek is slovenian?!?
>>78224148
they're both
>>78224148
A nigger in china is a nigger.
A Potato in north america is a potato.
Quit hating on diaspora.
>>78224360
No Irish person alive would consider any of you Irish, you are fooling yourselves with this cringe
>>78213622
was very disappointed to discover this is a hoax based on an american hoax.
But I suppose I can't be surprised. Australia shitposted before it even knew what shitposting was.
>>78224450
well *I'M* not irish.
But pretty sure you don't speak for your whole country either.
>>78224555
If ever an Irish person says the word "Irish-American" they're doing it to get tourism bux or IRA funds
>>78224638
listen potato nigger.
a nigger in china is a nigger, a potato in america is a potato.
quit hating
Americans is just the nationality.
There are german american
irish americans
african americans.
doesn't change your race.
>>78224638
Fuck off i have a better hyphenated word for you potato-nigger.
The Irish in America are more Irish and your newest wave of negro and Arab immigrants. Just because they don't give a shit about your Easter rising doesn't make them not Irish.
>>78224990
>American Education
Irish-Americans are annoying as fuck, almost as bad as the Italian-Americans.
Fucking obnoxious and try to compensate and try to be "overly irish" when they know their ancestors betrayed their country to become a regular yankee like the rest of us.
Please take them back, Ireland. We don't fucking need or want them.
>>78225358
Please genocide them, nobody wants human trash
>>78225358
they came to the usa because there was no food you fucking idiot
>>78224638
chatted with some irish guy on chatroulette who was in the ira
he showed me his ak and gun
>>78215141
>Stalin
Russian
KEK. he's Georgian
>Alexander
Macedonian
TOPKEK. Alexander is from the Greek province of Macedonia, not the modern country of Macedonia
>>78215141
>Napoleon
Corsican, of Italian descent.
I really hope youre a troll and not a dumb burger
>>78225069
Stop deluding yourself
Your entire nationality derives from a few idiots flipping tables on Easter
>>78225514
Wanting to be Americans but wanting to maintain a kind of "irishness" is retarded as fuck and pretty much makes them the mexicans of their day.
I give respect to those who have irish ancestors but aren't complete cunts or have some kinda special "irish pride". They are just like every other yankee.
>>78205447
Explain abbos then.
>>78225698
>American Education
>>78201982
Scottish or Irish?
>>78222794
u mad
>>78225754
>Irish "nationality"
>>78224450
>no one Irish subjectively consider certain Americans to be Irish
>Objective research on genetics, population flow, etc. prove certain Americans to be Irish.
>>78225765
Irish.
easy
>>78226001
Pushkin might have been Peter the Great's negro's great-grandson, he was no more African in his ways than you are Irish
NIGGER
OAFT
>>78203882
>>78203983
Accurate imo
>>78226143
Scottish.
Scottish or Irish?
>>78226677
Both are Scottish
>>78201982
They are Nordic, have you not learned? They all have blue eyes and lefty tendencies.
Therefore deserve to be gassed like Sweden and the rest of them.
Scum!
Look at them....
>>78226677
Who are they then? >>78225765
Might as well say the Chinese premier is British when he comes to visit.
Ireland - Liverpool - Scotland
They trade people a lot.
>>78226721
I thought they were obviously Scottish. You can tell the difference across the isles, the English are a quirky looking bunch, big lips, flared nostrils or hook noses and olive skin.
>>78227094
Scottish musicians
>>78227279
The moment you posted the first one I knew, it's so easy to differentiate
>>78203882
>>78203983
Both look like souless gingers to me pham.
>>78227368
Post someone you think epitomises the Irish look. Curious to see.
>>78227729
Evanna Lynch or Saoirse Ronan, guys are more difficult to think of an archetype, you just know
>>78226851
Are lumpenprole Brits ("chavs") a different ethnic group altogether? There is no way they are Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, Norman, Viking, etc. Are they leftovers from the Beaker people? Perhaps a permanent underclass that has been around for thousands of years, just exchanging masters every time a new Indo-European group invaded the Island?
I find them interesting because they aren't really represented over here. Lower-class English rarely, if ever, emigrated to the New World.
>>78205191
The Picts were wiped out, moron. Scots are descended from the Gaels.
>>78205472
>>78215141
German: Hitler
Russian: Stalin
Macedonian: Alexander
Frenchman: Napoleon
Turk: ???
Pole: ???
You're clearly not a true American.
>>78205668
Their name only denotes the paternal lineage. You can have a Gaelic name and be 1/48th Gaelic or not have one and be 47/48ths so that doesn't really stand up.
