https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-slams-nato-aggressive-activities-rhetoric-113638064.html?nhp=1
>General Ben Hodges, the commander of US ground forces in Europe, warned in a news report on Wednesday that NATO would currently be unable to protect the Baltics against a Russian attack, let alone Western Europe.
>"Russia could take over the European continent faster than we would be able to defend it," Hodges was quoted as saying in a German-language article by news weekly Die Zeit.
Jesus, why is NATO so weak?
>>78154741
Because they are gay nu males who play video games and watch cuck-porn. The /pol/ demographic represents the right wing nationalists in the West. Think about that.
>>78154741
Yes, they could.
But it cant hold it so what is the point.
>>78154741
>Russia could take over the European continent faster than we would be able to defend it
I would welcome this. Fuck the West and what it stands for
>>78154741
Why is there an arrow point towards black sea? Is that a country now?
>There are *still* idiots who fall for the "Russia gon' invade" meme
They vote.
They breed.
>>78154741
Russia's only available threat anymore is the gigantic pile of nukes they have, and what could happen if said nukes fell into the hands of 3rd party organisations.
>>78154916
They don't need to hold it. They can just kill Estonia and NATO would be Oh Jeez Oh man oh Boy muh values and then all of Western security alliances will be moot.
>>78154741
>draw random arrows
>"""invasion""" """"""""plan"""""""
>>78155055
they're the same people who fall for the "china is a legitimate threat" meme
>>78154741
Enjoy French and Brits nukes
Because Europe refuses to pull its own weight.
>Russia 'invades' Europe
>UK and France nuke Russia
>Russia nukes them back
>world ends
Yep Russia is totally going to invade and destroy literally everyone and everything.
>>78154741
>Jesus, why is NATO so weak?
Jesus can't answer you but the reason NATO is so weak is because it's an organization run by and for kikes and anything done by kikes is inherently weak
>>78155186
They are though, especially if they team up with Russia.
Long range ballistic missiles will fuck our shit up.
>>78155055
This
There's no point for Russia to invade western Europe. Putin only care about russian speaking people
It's just america wanting to start another world war because their economy is shit
>>78154741
Good, please do.
I will make the soldiers some Borscht.
>>78154870
OMFG it's Justin Trudeau.
meme magic is real
>>78155216
Nukes are not the endgame, although they are very damaging.
The end of the world bullshit is propaganda. To nuke my city off the map would take some 11 nukes including the radiation spread.
There are currently 4.500 deliverable nukes in the USA and Russia.
It is not enough to "wipe off" even either of those countries.
So don't piss off Russia. Putin said he doesn't want Europe or a fight with the US
Because the USA is the only NATO country with a military
>>78155055
Nigger you have no clue what Russia is actually doing.
The Crimea annexation and Ukraine invasion were aggressively denied ever since they started the military buildup and exercises behind the border all the way and even after they had Russian military all over the place. After they're done with their plans all you get is a simple "proofs?" and a condescending smirk.
To deny their plans is to either be a shill or plain retarded. The reason Putin acts the way he acts is because there are too many naive idiots who allow him to.
Now you may say "Who gives a fuck about those countries anyway?" This is what you should say from the beginning instead of saying Russia is good boi who dindu nuffin.
>>78155314
>1946 + 70 years
>idiots still haven't figured out how modern warfare works
We have second strike capability. Their ballistic missiles will not fuck our shit up.
>>78155553
One nuke takes out all communications, electricity and contaminates the water supply. It's more than enough to take your ass into the stone age.
>>78154741
france has more budget than russia
>>78154741
>Russia invades Europe
>Kicks the shit out of Turkey and retakes Constantinople in the process
>Sets up border controls
Explain to me why this is bad. We are all ready being invaded anyway so who the fuck cares? I literally couldn't care less if the slavs invaded, i rather have a pro slav puppet government in Stockholm then the pro globalist cuck government that is currently in power. As long as NATO doesn't respond with nukes i am fine with it.
Not that it will happen anyway.
>>78155022
You are IN the west....
you do realise this right??
>>78155553
Nukes would hit power, food, fuel, and industry. The world economy would collapse completely. Hundreds of millions will starve and freeze to death.
It's very much the end of the world, the civilized world at least.
>>78155553
It would be enough to to destroy infrastucture and wipe out large portions of critical working population. Most deaths from a strategic exchange would occur from untreated injuries, starvation, or illness from sudden loss of access to clean water.
>>78154741
>5 million soldier in NATO members
>Biggest nuclear arsenal that works, unlike Russia which is smaller, and like 60% of it is from the early Cold War era
>>78155667
>Russia putting troops into Russian territories where people speak russian
I see zero problem
The joke during the Cold War was that the European armed forces were speed bumps until a real military could arrive. Not much has changed since then.
>>78154741
>it's another Russia is about to take over the world episode
>>78154741
It's just an excuse for the US to build a bunch of military bases there and put a bunch of troops there.
>>78155667
Those countries were Russian to begin with and Putin already publicly submitted to the USA as the dominant world superpower. He does not want war, stop trying to demonize him.
He won't conquer much but even if he did, it would be better than turkroaches or Obama supported ISIS
>>78155734
and french and our goverments spend most of it to pay GibMehDatz to subhuman ... that works well for us
>>78154741
Would our new overlord putin remove kebab, or just let it stay?
>>78155553
>Nukes are not the endgame, although they are very damaging.
While its true that nukes won't wipe out humanity they will certainly fuck everything up and send up back to the middle ages. No electricity, no running water, no internet and then add to that all the radiation from all the nukes and from the nuclear power plants that will be BTFO.
It would suck extremely fucking hard and 90% of all people would either died or hope they would die.
>>78155734
Belgium has more budget than russia.
>>78154916
They just need to raze it to the ground then sell it to China
>>78155553
It would pretty much be the endgame in this case.
No side will keep fighting when they lost their economy, industry and major cities.
Europe and Russia would starve.
The global economy would be completely destroyed.
>>78155867
Actually it's the American arsenal that is entirely from the Cold War
Actually, they already have. Russia reportedly thinks its tactical nukes are now better than both ours and NATO’s. NATO member countries have only 260 older tactical weapons. Sited in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey, the U.S. has 200 nuclear bombs with an overall capacity of 18 megatons. France has 60 atomic bombs.
As discussed in a report outlined in PRAVDA, Russia has 5,000 nuclear weapons of different tactical classes including Iskander warheads and torpedo, aerial and artillery warheads, all right next to Europe.
The US has 300 tactical B-61 bombs on its own territory, but this does not touch the imbalance. The United States cannot improve this situation as we have destroyed many of our Cold War tactical nuclear missiles, land-based missiles and sea-based Tomahawk cruise missiles. And we pinned ourselves with our own treaties. The recent START 3 treaty was overwhelmingly favorable to Russia.
Russia has developed long-range cruise missiles of a new generation that will soon be deployed on submarines of the Black Sea Fleet and missile ships of the Caspian Flotilla.
The U.S. State Department admitted as much in a report published at the beginning of September, stating that Russia has passed us in nuclear weapons capability for the first time in 40 years.
Letting our nuclear arsenal fall into disrepair is one thing (Washington Post), but allowing Russia to build a new strategic nuclear weapons force more advanced than ours is another thing altogether. And they even have a new generation of missiles.
So Russia does think it has the upper hand. And they might, if Putin and the hard-liners are willing to use force as much as they seem lately.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2014/11/20/could-russias-new-nuclear-weapons-win-world-war-iii/#278ddc204c71
>>78154741
Puitin please~
>>78155805
yes and I hate what it has become
>>78155667
>Putin wants Russian territories
What a shock. He's not going to invade Western Europe. I'd sooner expect him to invade the ME
>>78155842
People really overestimate the power of nukes. Even if every country in the world launched all their nukes, about 90% of the worldwide population would survive and there won't be such a thing as "nuclear winter". It's lefties propaganda
>>78156094
UK is in NATO and they have around 280 alone.
>>78155805
Yeah thats the point
This jewish controlled oligarchy from hell is worse than death
>>78155734
>France spends its military budget on stopping snackbars from blowing themselves up in Paris
Fify
>muh troop gap
Lemme take one guess at the proposed solution...
People keep falling for this shit we deserve nuked.
>>78155667
Ukraine was a different case. Russia didn't start that, the west did. Before the Ukrainian crisis, it was firmly in the Russian sphere of influence with a pro-Russian president.
It wasn't until the west started backing "protesters" who later staged a coup and took power, and shifted the country into the west's sphere of influence, that Russia started damage control by wresting control of Ukrainian territories with economic ties to Russia.
>>78154741
>Russia could easily invade Europe
DO IT THEN, FAGGOTS.
>>78155720
Nukes destroy coms through EMP if they are detonated far above the target, and then, they are not damaging as a nuke.
>>78155842
>>78156070
>>78156083
Still, a war between the USA and Russia would not mean the death of countries such as Brazil, and even not necessarily the Netherlands.
Yes, the economy would suffer a lot.
Yes, there may be a lack of resources for us
Yes, there may be a lack of food for you
But it is not "The End". It is simply unprofitable.
And...Why?
>>78154741
Russia taking over Europe would be fucking Ideal.
>Russia *could* overrun Europe
They should probably be more concerned with the muslims who *are* overrunning Europe.
Modern western defence policy is 'let the US handle it'.
>>78154916
Just run over europe, stay 2-3 month and fundsupport/equip pro russian nationalists (basically FN, AfD, Wilders etc) and retreat back and keep some clay in ukraine or so
NWO BTFO
>NATO generals in Europe want more toys and money
shocking
>invading muslim nations
Thought they learned their lesson with afghanistan.
>>78156280
This
Meanwhile muslims are literally overrunning europe as we speak and building mosques to hide all their weaponry
Oh yeah and enjoy the radiation spreading all over .
France alone has 58 nuclear reactors.
>>78155667
Yeah right.
>Implying the revolution in Ukraine wasn't a CIA coupe from the start.
>Implying it wasn't the long term geo-strategic goal of the hardliners in Washington to dominate Ukraine to weaken Russia.
>Implying a lot of the Neocons weren't all too happy to aggitate Western Europe against Russia and see us hurt each other while they prosper.
Remember the sanctions which they enforced us to do? Well, turns out: meanwhile the USA had increased their trade with Russia.
They hate an alliance between ressource rich Russia and high-tech, industrious Germany.
But don't worry, if Russia truly would try to take over the baltics, I will see them as the treat you want us to see them. But Crimea and Ukraine definetely was a special case.
>>78154741
Wasn't there a thing called MAD?
Even if the US would not intervene the UK and France nukes would still end the war in a couple of minutes
>>78154741
Sure.
Like a coalition of Nations couldn't defend against a half assed running army. A military that is in disrepair and lacks the proper funding isn't going to take anything.
This is just a ploy for bigger military budgets in the west
>>78155451
underrated post
>BAN ASSAULT MOSQUES
You really done goofd it sempai-kun sama
>>78155962
Yeah...but don't worry: a lot of Europeans don't buy into it anymore. Although the propaganda machine tries everything in its power.
>>78155667
Eternal butthurt. Barking like a little dog yet scared shitless. Just kys already.
>>78155186
china is a legitimate threat to the world
>>78156255
>Still, a war between the USA and Russia would not mean the death of countries such as Brazil,
Maybe not, but the entire northern hemisphere would be good and thoroughly fucked.
And then you would have to deal with hundreds of millions of impoverished people trying to get into your country while at the same time seeing a complete shutdown of global trade. No more spare parts for your combine harvesters from Germany, no more antibiotics from the US, no more imported food. Best case scenario for you is what Venezuela is going through now times 10 and with millions of people trying to go south.
I don't think i am exaggerating when i am saying that least 80% of humanity would die as a result from a full scale nuclear exchange. We would recover ofc but the first generations would be complete shit.
>>78154741
Misquoted; it is baltic states and not European continent. Russian supply lines would collapse if they expanded that fast all over Europe
>>78156225
Ukraine is not Russia. They are an independent nation who make their own decisions. If Russia doesn't like it, they can fuck off.
Most people in my country support the EU and NATO because we value their partnership more than Russia's. I would also protest against a Russian puppet government if I had to.
You can't "pressure" a country into annexing its neighbors, no matter the circumstances. Russia wants to tell the whole world to fuck off and rip apart all international treaties because they feel like they have enough power to do that. Putin's endgame is to reclaim the lost Soviet Union lands, which is half of Europe.
The Russians that live in Eastern Europe were never from here - they were brought in and the natives deported during WW2. I can't believe you retards who are falling for their obvious brainwashing schemes.
>m-muh Russia is a good boi
>he dint want to occupy no one but he had to
>Russia could easily
I don't think so
butthurt belt on guard
>mfw portugal so irrelevant we dont get refugees or russian invader troops
>>78154741
USA hold simulation wars against Russia several times in 2013-2015 (probably now in 2016 aswell) and kept losing Europe to the Russians.
My friend in the swedish military told me that NATO soldiers spoke to each other during lunch.. that a war in the baltic states would be a pure slaughter for NATO troops, since the Russians would completely obliterate the 3 small countries in a matter of days.
The only country ready for a full large scale war against Russia is USA. There's no question about it.
>Europe used to be the most powerful continent in the world
>now it's just a pawn for America, Russia, and China to fight over
>>78154741
Just more justification being made for a European Union army
>>78156980
The strong should dominate the weak
>>78154741
Nato is like an aged whore who's furious no one wants to catcall her anymore
>>78154741
but why? blyat, somebody can give me at least one good reason to do so?
Where's the problem? I hope the madman Putin does it.
>>78154741
Come get some Ruskies. Fucking commie bastards i will avenge Germany.
>>78157114
Europe is still the n°1 economy in the world
>>78154741
Let them come. Deutschmourne hungers.
>>78156987
Damn Mexico is there too?
>>78154741
At this point it'd probably be a good thing if russia invaded and conquered europe.
Peace has made us weak. When you're not worrying about survival and actual threats, your threat-detection becomes weak. And you start putting more dedication into liberal bullshit like allowing the entire 3rd world into europe so we can take care of them.
>>78154741
And yet Russia would be stopped on the border of finland.
Winland.
>>78157219
Because Russians are led by the jews and are mongolian hordes.
>>78154741
>Russia invade
>Russia win
>USA invade Russia
>Russia lose
The first one to strike will lose.
>>78156987
Eastern Europe will really deserve what they'll get for being so retarded
protip: USA don't give a shit about you. They only see the opportunity of a huge economic growth after your countries will be wiped out in a big war
>>78156980
>Ukraine is not Russia.
>They are an independent nation who make their own decisions.
>Ukraine
>making their own decisions
hahahhahahahhahahahhahahaha
>mfw
>>78157219
He won't. Europe has nothing anyone wants anymore except a horde of welfare kebab and mentally ill trannies who think they're their "allies"
>>78157291
Those times are over, Hans. Try and keep your wife's daughter from getting raped by Ahmed on the way back from school.
>>78157211
Because otherwise, you'll be just another piece of our glorious federation of corporate republics. Look forward to paying for your pierogis in Euro.
>>78157242
Whats good is economy while your people are weak betas that will flee when the war starts?
>>78154870
how did things get so bad
>>78154741
I'd gladly welcome our russian overlords
>>78155186
China is so large and with so many internal security concerns that it cannot act aggressively on the international stage.
>>78157392
but they hate sandniggers, that seems like an upgrade from the current situation
>>78154741
We're already being invaded any way, lets make it a party.
>>78155667
You are the clueless one.
It is actually the West that striked first.
If you think that the ''revolution''in Ukrain is genuine, you are just a fool.
West miscalculation was to think that Russia would let it slide and woulldn't dare face the consequences. Putin showed them they were wrong.
>>78157479
Those times haven't even begun, little red dot.
>>78157423
>France
>Wiped Out
>5% muslim
Way to go, frog.
>>78156930
The northern educated, skilled, and proper refugees that are going to bring their knowledge of everything to us as well as the few remaining companies and wealth such as swiss gold ie that would have been left to the clouds of radiation if not moved?
Dont you see, the northern part of the world is ready to work, unlike normal immigrants. So that would be an insane boost to our workforce and the knowledge brought would allow for easy reverse engineering of anything we dont already have.
The loss of knowledge would be very small because there ARE going to be survivors that know the basics that we still dont.
Most of our land is unsettled, the amazon is barely touched. There is plenty of room to make homes.
>>78157472
damn..well put.
back to the dark ages we go
>mfw dark ages with browns this time
asia rises, white flight is real
>>78154741
I wonder if Russia would protect our external borders better ...
>americans still thinking they are hot shit
your anti white pro islam lgbt numale youth is already in the process of ruining your country
>>78157537
We will finally put all our shitskins to a good use. Fight for your benefits shitskin trash.
Then we kill the shitskins who defended us and forge history and claim that heroic europeans did it. HUEHUEHEUE.
Blame the jews while we are at it too.
>>78155670
But we are still all fucked.
It is basic MAD.
>USA instituted women draft
>Sends hordes of fat liberal SJWs to defend Europe
>Russia can't take it and surrender in a matter of weeks
>>78155103
Still better than Hearts Of Iron 4.
>>78157621
>Revolution? No thats just western plot! History tells us that all revolutions are just made up by jews! People never rebel! Never!
>beigin this stupid
>>78156980
The president of that Ukraine was democratically elected. He was deposed by CIA-backed ultras to serve western interests. It has nothing to do with independence or self-determination. It was regime change for the sake of another power, certainly not something that was in Ukraine's own self-interest.
I know you're incredibly butthurt as a butthurt-belt nation but really do try looking past the anger and look at the situation rationally. Russia lost big time on the Ukraine affair, as did the Ukrainians themselves. The only party who gained something were the western powers, who expanded their sphere of influence further towards the borders of Russia.
>>78157453
>making their own decisions
It's time for another "FUCK THE EU!..." episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIvRljAaNgg
Victoria ((Nuland))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
>>78155670
They will. You being able to fuck our shit up in retaliation doesn't mean you won't get your shit fucked.
>>78157704
>>78157610
It may seem so but it really isn˙t. We would lose our european identity at which point we might aswell suicide.
And it˙s not like "multiculturalism" would stop under Russia
>>78157114
I blame May 1968 which was organized and funded by CIA. You really won a decisive battle with this one. France literally stopped defending their own interests after that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968_events_in_France
>>78157423
Countries that are on board with US hegemony are okay in our book. We like our protectorates.
>>78154741
>conventional ground war with forces of the types X,Y,Z etc. With the amount of # in their categories are somehow more important than 1 nuke
Kek, this is the same kind of reporting as the focus on school shootings. They are both completely unrealistic angles. School shootings dont even make the smallest of dents into the populations and the workings of a nation, yet they are completely overhyped.
Yet the opposite occurs for conventional combined arms types of wars between NUCLEAR superpowers.
Its fucking retarded. You could literally have a nation that has 1 soldier, and one tank, and one plane like fucking...botswana or something gay like that. But if has a couple of nukes, it doesnt fucking matter if it is against a nation that has a couple of thousands...millions of heavy military arms. At least not in direct confrontation, which this is.
These types of reporters should be shot to death, or at least fired from their jobs for doing this kind of sloppy reporting.
Its like
>well nation X has fewer trenches and fully automatic stationary machinery, it will surely die against nation Y that has dug trenches and fortifications!
>well nation Z has no horsemen, no heavy cavalry, it will surely lose against nation Q that has lots and lots of horses, those artillery pieces dont exist as an effective means of warfare!
Imagine these kinds of pieces being put into news articles today, because that is basically what ops writers is. Someone very dumb.
>people believe Russia would start WW3 for bants
>>78156355
do it
>>78157751
>war starts
>Shitskins kill us for benefits from russians
lose-lose
>People still think nukes have to 'destroy' cities and kill people via direct explosion or radiation
Your town and city needs a fuck load of food and water, if only a fraction of the worlds cities and ports got nuked that would lead to the deaths of billions.
Every city in the world relies on a complex trade network to survive
>>78154741
Ah yes the "country" that couldn't even take Ukraine is going to take the whole Europe
>>78157423
>deserve
Give an example of what we have done so wrong? that we have our own army or what
>>78157423
The big war would be pointless, there's barely anything there, plenty of room for economic growth as it is.
>>78154741
COME CHAOS, COME NIGHTMER, COME ATOMIC WINTER, COME ENTERLAN NIGHT!
>>78155670
he's not talking about nukes, he's talking about conventional ballistic missiles that can destroy our carriers and our airfields in Asia
only a few dozen of China's nukes even have the range to reach USA anyway
most of their arsenal is intended to deter Russia, India, Japan
they don't even have a proper first strike capability against us
minimum deterrence, i.e. the capability to destroy a handful of major cities, is their nuclear posture, not MAD
>>78156842
How is China a threat to anyone but the Asian non-countries that ring it?
Because we really care what happens to Laos and Burma.
China will never become an existential threat to the world like the USSR was, I mean have you ever been to China or met any Chinese people? I'm assuming you have.
It's a fucking joke, we used to make fun of bad Soviet technology and the Chinese are ten times worse. Their military technology, economy and infrastructure are all of the quality of bootleg smartphones. The structure of their military is dozens of generals who refuse to cooperate or communicate and have what are essentially private armies. In the event of a war the government wouldn't even know where half of them are or what they're doing. The different branches of the military don't even cooperate so good luck getting for example, support from the airforce for a ground invasion, it would be a clusterfuck.
Their entire economy is a massive bubble of inflation just waiting to burst, they have entire cities that are completely unpopulated for the sole purpose of employing construction workers, it's not sustainable.
China has never been a threat to the world and it never will be because the Chinese are a joke.
>>78156987
>Ukraine
I don't know if you heard, but...
>Britain votes Brexit
>EU declares war on Britain
>Russia sides with Britain
>EU nukes Russia
>US sides with Britain and Russia, bomb the ever loving shit out of all nuclear capable EU countries
>WWIII marks the end of the EU
>>78157896
what does it matter? no matter who wins, europe loses. we will be enslaved and genocided either way, the last chance died 70 years ago
>>78158060
>talking with commie frog
Frogs are know for loving commies dicks.
>>78158014
I think Australia would. The Emu wars were a first test run for a wildstock uprising scenario all over the world...
>>78155299
>thinks russia isn't just as controlled by the kikes
If you all would stop sucking Putin's cock for a minute you'd see that they are just like the rest of the kike puppets.
>>78155667
>>78156032
>>78156551
>>78157621
Hmm wonder who could of had a hand in Ukraine....
>>78154741
this is from the same fagbot brass that say "China is a legitimate threat". they gotta get that dank defense funding so their salary gets a bump.
desu as an American I don't care if Russia pimphands Europe, it won't affect me in the slightest.
>inb4 muh economy
>>78154741
they should do it
>>78157242
And it will get better as long as you stop being meak shits.
>>78157765
Nobody in a position to do so is dumb enough to fire the first shot, for now.
>>78155905
>>78156032
>>78156137
>>78156225
>>78156812
>>78157621
How can you defend a country that literally invaded another country and took control over its area. This right here is written putins internet trolls all over it
>protecting russian speaking citizens
>>78156980
Kek, can you get any more butthurt you literal sub-human? Where were those international treaties when west created independent Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Kosovo? International treaties only matter when evil Russia wants to do something.
>>78158019
Death is not that bad. It is better to die than to live in a shitskin country.
I wellcome death.
Do it Russia.
Go go go!
>>78158189
>Slav prasing Nazi
Hows your day subhuman in this wonderful Nazi World? Still alive?
>>78155193
For some reason America and Russia are the only 2 countrys people think would use them,.. and NK maybe if they could launch them more than 50ft.
UK has Nukes in the sea floating the planet all the time and then whatever we have lying around the country. Russia would get fried, we possible would too but hey man they burning with us
>>78157410
>implying China would let US invade Russia
Get real people. What invasion? So far Russia has been on the defense and I doubt it will have the capability to launch a full scale invasion. Remember the Georgian war? You seriously have doubts the Crimean people wanted to join the federation? Russia will not tolerate to be encircled and with no influence in the area.
>>78158384
i am not czech but they are aryans too senpai
>>78158189
Well, your countrymen seem pretty divided on this question...
But Hitler himself said he was the last chance of the old Europe. Unfortunately the West does everything at this moment to make him right. It seems they imagine a Europe without Europeans, but black and Islamic.
>>78157867
>Implying you can proove I am wrong.
It was a regime change like it happened in Lybia. It worked, but not ad well as expected.
>>78158178
What the hell makes you believe we would declare war on Britain? How would that be plausible?
If the Brexit happens, Germany will have no choice but to make sure the negotiations run smoothly so Britain can become like Norway, who are kinda with us but not really. There's not going to be the slightest depression, let alone a war. Fucking burger.
>>78155670
From what I understand lately they are getting a bit less pitiful in copying western tech
>>78154741
>Russia could easily overrun Europe
Just do it already. I'd rather live under a Russian puppet government than under an American one.
>>78158489
>Not Czech
>Czech Flag
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>78157291
I wish the Germans would grow a pair and overthrow their government to create the Fourth Reich or something. I'm getting tired of Russia being the world's big bad all the time.
>>78158150
>can destroy carriers
>with missile quantities that they do not have
>in simulations only
>prior to the arleigh burke upgrade
>>78154741
Because nobody but the US does jack shit for it, and murrka's getting tired of it
>>78158319
I am not sure if you are licking Russian boots or just being reasonable. Russians are not our allies.
>>78158588
The Russians are just as awful, with the added disadvantage of being too poor to import our shit.
>>78155805
lol he didn't know, I honestly believe regardless of his answer back, he didn't actually know kek
>>78154741
>Russia could easily overrun Europe
Of course they could.
Hell, the mudslimes are doing it as we speak and they're not even an armed and organized fighting force. If a bunch of inbred goatfuckers looking for easy rape and gibsmedats can turn Europe into a caliphate, there should be no reason Russia couldn't bring a bigger, better version of the warsaw pact back from the dead even if their war machine is a couple of decades past it's expiration date.
And, at this point, I'm sure Many Europeans would welcome such a conquest
Go forth Mother Russia and Remove Kebab with extreme prejudice!
A nuclear war between the world powers, would cut almost all global trade. People in vital infastructure and transport roles aren't going to turn up for work if their dead or searching/caring for family.
A farmer and his two or three workers aren't going to be able to farm shit when they run out of fuel for their machinery or electric water pumps to water it. Those 40 acres won't produce a thing.
Unless we could get the majority of the population, digging irrigation around lakes and rivers we now use for tourism and out into the fields sowing, everyone will starve. We'd have less then a year to get almost everyone onto farms.
If we don't switch to a medieval system of labour quickly then it'll be too late and everyone will be back to hunter gathers, too few to farm or trade like we have for the last thousand years.
>>78158269
>Pure coincidence!
I also "loved" his tweet about the US, Austrian, UN and EU flags at the hotel in Vienna, asking te question which of these flags would fall first.
Such ((great)) people!
>>78157912
Yah, so? We have that here.
They kind of got stuck with them because of USSR, not because of not protecting their borders.
>>78157681
>The northern educated, skilled, and proper refugees that are going to bring their knowledge of everything to us as well as the few remaining companies and wealth such as swiss gold ie that would have been left to the clouds of radiation if not moved?
Yeah, they might be educated. So what? What are you going to do with a programmer, wall street trader, CNC machinist etc if all the tech that they rely on is fried? Don't you see that our whole civilisation is built on tech that was built using older that that was build on using older tech that was built on using older tech. Most people don't have any idea at all how to build the machines that built that machines that built the machines. The fact that they know how to build and operate the new machines doesn't matter because we would literally have to start over from scratch.
Not to mention that half of these millions of refugees will get cancer within a decade and put a huge strain on your medical system.
Producing food is going to be the number one priority. You are going to want lots and lots of people that can till the soil and grow food and some people that can build and maintain low tech machinery. Every one else is just going to be another mouth to feed.
>>78156551
>But don't worry, if Russia truly would try to take over the baltics, I will see them as the treat you want us to see them.
Someone should conquer them, Germany or Russia. Because they will sabotage our trade relations.
Nothing personal Balts, just geography and your mental illness:
>be between two big economics
>sabotage trading instead of getting benefit from this because of historical butthurt
>>78158384
I praise Hitler. Jews killed millions of Slavs and i love what he did to them.
>>78158310
You forget how great powers operate, Sweden doesn't have anything comparable but the U.S has the monroe doctrine which means they have a sphere of influence out of their actual nation.
For Russia, Kiev is literally 300 miles from Moscow, if you had NATO your worst enemy 300 miles from your capital would you not do something about that because you can?
>>78158721
I think most people here talks about a non-nuclear war though.
>>78158489
no such thing as Aryan. We are all european caucasians.
>>78158445
I even think China would join USA. Why shoud they all with Russia? To gain what? Chuna has your debt. Attacking you would be against their economic intrest. While they want Russian lands rich in resources.
>>78158561
Even better than expected desu. The west got (most of) Ukraine + justification to destroy Russia's economy and isolate them internationally.
>>78154741
And why would Putin do such a thing?
He has demonstrated his diplomatic skill over any Obama Executive order, to be more effective in resolving problems than long-standing military presence.
Why on earth would Russia do such a thing to paint a big, red, "ATTACK ME" sign and pretty much rally all of the world against them under US "Freedumbs".
>>78154741
ah i see the propaganda for the European army begins.
>>78154741
Sure they could overrun europe quickly, but what then? It would be the end of russia and they could not handle an insurgency in every country. So it's all pointless.
>>78158642
>overthrow their government to create the Fourth Reich
That's what the EU did. We're ready to devise #5. Corporate republics are the future.
It's been this way for thousands of years. There aren't any real natural defenses in western Europe to prevent a massive ground attack.
Russia and the West have invaded each other for thousands of years due to this. Russia has the largest army in Europe, so no shit they could easily mount an offensive because Europe's armies are all Neutered, particularly Germany.
>>78154741
>"says US commander needing more money"
lel
>>78154741
Burgerbros, why are we itching for a conflict with the rooskies? Am I missing something?? Are they standing in the way of some U.S. Interests?
>>78158310
I do not condone what Russia did. But The West did worse and nobpdy dare speak of it.
IfUkraine had not undergone a regime change, Russia would not habe invaded it.
>>78158966
>NEED MO MONEY FO DEM PROGRAMS
>Russia
>ever relevant
>>78158738
Oh you mean this "one" yes they truly are people in touch with the real world.
Okay lemme clear this up
First, this is bullshit. Russia is not that powerful even though europe is piss weak
Second the russians dont want this. Large scale wars ceased to exist with ww2 due to globalism and empowerment of common people
Third nuclear mad does not exist anymore. Us already had asat tech over 40 years ago and a satellite is faster, more mobile and higher altitude than icbm/ slbm. War strategy shifted to defense long ago because of these reasons and while nukes could still cause harm the doomsayers are clueless idiots
>>78154741
If Russia put one tank past Warsaw there'd be nukes on the way to Moscow.
>>78158269
>hohols are actively trying to create Khazaria 2.0
>Putin is the bad guy
hohols beat up huns and send them to die against the russkis, "ukraine" is a shit country, russia SHOULD invade them and kill all the fucking hohols
>>78158588
Nah, you wouldn't. I'm not on board for the Russian hate meme, but idolizing the current Russia is just as delusional.
>15% muslim and growing
>just as if not more multi-cultural, including the tyrannical laws
>corruption, yes including Jewish billionairs
>>78158786
When Hitler would be done with jews he would start to elimnate slavs, and he did that. I think you are some shitskin from Syria with free wifi.
>>78158843
>Chuna has your debt.
Actually Saudi does.
>>78158998
Fighting for the sake of fighting....
go to a boxing ring
People's lives and homes are at stake when Countries fight. It's better to handle things the diplomatic way. It's not like youre dealing with uncivillized sandniggers or something.
>>78158846
Good for the US of A. Bad for Europe.
>>78158786
proxyfag or do you think that you are a unique slav maybe aryan-slav?
>>78159036
We've got a bunch of welfare queens in the upper echelons of our military
>>78158788
Ukraine isnt a member of NATO. I totally understand Russias actions because they are reasonable but that doesnt make it acceptable. Not one bit.
>>78157896
Victoria Nuland was born in 1961 to Jewish parents Sherwin B. Nuland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland
>>78158588
You can always emigrate. DO IT YOU FAGGOT, WHY DOU YOU LIVE IN COMMIE EU?!
>>78158026
This. Modern cities are unsustainable fucking leeches and cancers. Everyone who lives in them are faggots and I for one hope to see a rural revolution against these limp wristed nu males
>>78154741
>Lt. General gives interview
>Talks "sincerely"
How old are you slavshit aids whore?
NATO is at LEAST 20 years ahead of Russia technologically.
It's a no contest.
Even European NATO could solo Russia within 2 weeks if it weren't for nuclear deterrence.
Grow the fuck up ignorant slavshitboos.
It's called misdirection.
>>78159003
>b-b-but the west
>using the old soviet "you lynch negroes" trope
>>78154741
Russia is too scared of Ireland. It knows better.
>>78158685
Do we have ANY allies by this point? The EU is against us, in Germany our own government is acting against our vital interests, the US government became highly unpredictable and with the agitation against Russia, aggressive NATO and the NSA, the globalist trade deals... Who IS on our side?
>>78155216
>nukes Russia
They have what, 100 nukes each? No one even notice it. Only two countries have enough nukes - usa and russia
>>78158935
Based USA.
>>78159187
It is totally acceptable though. I accept it. Ukraine should be chernobyled all over.
>>78159287
Muslims. They are your future.
>>78158275
If anything Europe needs a war to get them to start acting like men again
They're not weak - NATO is most militaristic and dangerous military bloc in the world. It's just classical example of fear-mongering propaganda. You can easily control scared population and push all kinds of ridiculous shit justifying your actions with external threads. And since majority of people is braindead they will not object and even welcome your actions with content.
>>78158474
Those bases are very small when it comes to regular war forces.
They are not there to actually defend, they are there to signify that if you attack it, you'll be attacking the USA.
>>78158768
Brazil already has the tech that was built on top of older tech. If they come here, they will have already a wonderful basis to set up everything that is lacking in the world. In a matter of years we could have even internet back up again by reconnecting the sea cables.
EMPs are not global. They would not ruin my country if they are detonated above the USA which means we will still have all the technology we need in our hands, ready for reverse engineering.
And through refugees we will have the workforce we need to set new factories. Steel, Oil, Food, Water and other mineral resources will not be a problem for us because we are so far away from the fallout, and because our country is absolutely rich in all of these, although we do not explore it to the full extent due to ambient laws.
A nuclear war in the north would be great for us.
>implying the Ruskies are any worse than Americans
I'd rather drink vodka than nigger semen and kike kool aid, thanks.
>>78156355
that is what the usa is doing in the middle east the whole time.
overrun a country and instal a government of your choice. let some troops stay to help the new government.
congratulation, you are now controlling this country.
>>78155403
>economy is shit
Pretty ironic coming from you frog
>>78155962
As if you'd have any clue if they intended that or not.
Face it: you guys know about as much as you did during the USSR.
Of course, that's about as much as we know of our governments.
>>78154741
Does anyone really believe this?
>>78154741
Nato "weak"
NATO won cold war when Russia was far moore stronger then now.
Keep dreaming, bydło.
>>78159340
Khokhlushki are pretty damn hot, mate. Arguably the hottest Slav women. I wouldn't want to see them disappear.
>>78159187
Well sorry Sweden but there is an old saying in this world "Don't quote laws to men who have swords" Basically meaning all the good reasoning in the world does not equal brute force and never will.
>>78159353
And living and dying an inconsequential slavshit life in a depressive, sunless commiebloc shithole is yours
Stop being jelly of Germany because you will never be or surpass them. Ever.
>>78156303
Muslims destroy Europe and then Russia kill the muslims and claim the ashes. At that point, China will be the world's most powerful nation and Hillary will already kill America for a bigger profit so there will be no one to stop Russia. Muslims are pretty good at terrorism but they kinda suck at real warfare and Russians won't mind killing women and children along the terrorists, Russians are OK with killing their own women and children if it's necessary to win a war. See Russian history
>>78158935
Germany could raise the world's most powerful military in five years flat.
>>78159447
That's what happened to Germany with the DDR
>>78159410
This is why I'd rather enlist to the russki army and help them make nukes to holocaust burgers if this is the last thing we do.
America is the root of all evil in this world.
>>78158842
well theres no advocate for either classification, we are just fucked
>>78158770
I don't know. I don't think any war, especially on European soil, and I include Russia in that - St. Petersburg in the least. It's as always: the ordinary man bleeds and watches his relatives die, the plutocrat and warmongering politician counts his Dollars and Shekels.
We need reliable and decent politicians to find a peaceful, constructive solution and if we don't have them, war and conquest wouldn't solve any problems.
>>78159567
Not this shit again.
How about you rev up those factories and give me my bike back, Hans? I'M STILL WAITING
>>78159530
Kill the men rape the women, take the nice black soil and make lots of kvass. You have my blessings Ivan.
No one likes the ukijews.
>>78159291
nuking the places that matter - european Russia, especially moscow and st petersburg - they are the bread and butter of the russian economy
>>78159567
Shitskin Wermacht v2.0,
Praise Allach!
>>78159607
We were fine until the early 1900s when globalists hijacked our country
>>78159567
>>78159655
t. conquered in 1 week
Fuck off spineless dutch gamma
Avenge your 300 murdered civilians first
>>78157867
Dumbass Ukraine has had more than one 'revolution' in its pathetic 20 year existence and each time it was never organic. it was always done so in the interest of the nation's elite (who serve international interest) under the guise of 'fighting corruption', and Russia was ALWAYS pitted as an obstacle or a bad guy in the narrative. And guess what? Every single time it went from bad to worse. Like a dumbass posing the question "what could possibly go wrong?"
No one is saying genuine revolutions never happen. What were saying is that it is a rare occurrence.
>>78159187
That fucking Jew Borislav Bereza called for literal genocide of all ethnic Russians.
We are evil for not simply telling Russia, "take Donetsk and Lugansk, please".
>>78159232
Syria and Lybia are better off than Ukrain now.... isn t it?
>>78159586
Yeah right, only with the DDR..... kek
>>78159052
Aye...this one... Really shows you the level of corruption of the West and the toxic power of financial capitalists and their plutocratic lobbying. And also this perverse alliance between them and the Nu Left. Soros with Trudeau, Soros with Shillary, Soros jr. with Obama...
>>78159767
And now you'd support the destruction of all Europe (again), because you think nothing ever can get to you.
>>78159499
russia will take over the baltics in 72 hours. The following economic retaliation will set them back at least 10 years. No, nobody believes this shit, ive been listening about it for 3 years straight and nothing has changed.
>>78154741
>tfw will never be invaded by ruskies
Feels good man.
>>78159416
Everything the NATO generals have said has ultimately been the truth. From Russia's intentions to their military buildups, exercises and so on.
Rememeber that before the Ukraine invasion, the shills DENIED everything just like they're denying everything right now.
>If he's red, bullet in the head
>>78159812
>destroying all the nations' resources and infrastructure an unwinnable war
Only roaches are this retarded, but it shows in your Syria policy, so we already knew that.
Just look at the Russians, 7000 T-72's, barely 1000 of them upgraded to the modern BM variant
>>78159586
you wouldnt believe how many germans dont realise that.
its mind boggling.
>>78159547
And the sky is blue, is there anything else obvious you want to tell everyone to make yourself seem smart?
Putin is the guy attacking other countries then crying in media how NATO is the bully. People ITT said they dont see a problem with Russias behaviour when in fact there is huge problem with it.
>>78159555
>Turkey
>Defending Kraut
Fucking roach on the loose! Have you fikifiki that fat kraut woman Ahmed?
>>78160021
>>78159911
And this, we got hit twice and thrice and over.
>>78154741
I say let Russia have Europe
They're ungrateful for our military protection
Let's remove it all
>>78159567
Fucking do it already, Europe is ripe for nazification atm with all those shitskin rapefugees you so cleverly let in.
>>78158998
Very obviously there are many hardliners and ((Neocons)) in Washington who only accept total world dominance by the USA. And they don't care about the EU, if they can't have their way. They seem our countries as vassals at best anyway.
>>78158721
>If we don't switch to a medieval system of labour quickly then it'll be too late and everyone will be back to hunter gathers, too few to farm or trade like we have for the last thousand years.
Yep. The remaining government, military and police would need to round up all the civilian survivors and send them to work the fields. The best your average white collar joe could hope for is nothing more then a daily ration of bread and/or potatoes for his work. Every one who can't work would be left to starve and every one who can work will be lucky if they get more then 1500 kcal per day.
If this doesn't happen immediately after the attack the after effects would be holodomor combined with the irish potato famine times 1000.
I hope you guys are either prepared, physically fit or have some useful skill like first aid, building* syngas generators engines to scrap cars/tractors, electric generators from washing machines or steam engines. Otherwise you won't get fed.
*without power tools
You should look into something that you can do that will be useful. Because you don't want to be tilling the fields with less then 2000 kcal per day.
>>78160000
Except main land Ukraine still not being invaded of course.
>>78160012
Nice excuses.
But we aren't molluscan betas like you. We shoot down slavshit airplanes when they violate airspace.
You take it in the ass and play dead when they rocket-butcher 340 of your civilians.
Fucking unrepentant shame of mankind.
>>78160085
Remove McDonalds
REEEEEEEEEE
>>78159901
Revolutions can lead to wars. Who knew?
Are you one of those "the Arab Spring was just CIA operations" guys?
