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AAVE It's a legit dialect? African American Vernacular
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African American Vernacular English (AAVE)—also called African American English (AAE); less precisely Black English, Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), or Black Vernacular English (BVE)—is a variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of American English, most commonly spoken today by urban working-class and largely bi-dialectal middle-class African Americans.[1] Non-linguists[2] often call it Ebonics (a term that also has other meanings and connotations).

It shares a large portion of its grammar and phonology with the rural dialects of the Southern United States.[3] Several creolists, including William Stewart, John Dillard and John Rickford, argue that AAVE shares enough characteristics with African Creole languages spoken around the world that AAVE itself may be an English-based creole language separate from English;[4][5] however, mainstream linguists maintain that there are no significant parallels,[6][7][8] and that AAVE is, in fact, a demonstrable variety of the English language,[9][10] having features that can be traced back mostly to the nonstandard British English of early settlers in the American South.[11]

As with all linguistic forms, its usage is influenced by age, status, topic and setting. There are many literary uses of AAVE, particularly in African-American literature.

Or in other words

"We do what we want because we been here the longest"
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"In other words, AAVE is a set of grammatical rules just as complex and systematic as SAE and the widespread belief that it is not is nothing more than yet another manifestation of deeply internalized racism."
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>>78121829

This is like saying refrigerator drawings and macaroni noodle paintings are a new classification of fine art
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>>78121829
fine, let's see a systematic grammar.
also, it's BEV. AAEV is PCBEV.
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>Niggers can't talk properly
>let's legitimise it by calling it a language
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>>78121829
yeah start speaking a separate language

if you thought you wuz marginalized before...

imagine traykeesha applying for a job and not being able to speak english. i mean it was bad enough that she was who she was, but now we can't even communicate!
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>black
>working class
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>>78122061
"I know who you are" would be "I knows who you is" in Ebonics so their theory on what grammatical rule is in effect doesn't really hold up.
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>>78122936
>>78122796
>>78122061
>>78121829
Are they trying to not call it Ebonics?
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>>78122936
>imagine traykeesha applying for a job

fucking brutal.
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(((Social sciences)))
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American Blacks are not these magical and creative beings who spawned a new and functional language from the incomplete and unnecessary English language. It's fucking slang and broken English. 4 year old children speak with better diction. It's simply because they are uneducated and to speak clearly and correctly is "trying to be White". Anything positive and beneficial is "White". By their own definition. White liberals champion this idiocy by attempting to attribute some sort of bizarre nobility to not being able to speak proper English, and by tagging this gibberish with some multi-syllabic fancy name so they can all feel special in their great big White Guilt circle jerk. Regardless, they speak like that because they're fucking stupid.
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The term AAVE and its normalization through comparing it to other dialects is an attempt to deflect criticism of blacks perpetuating and maintaining an inferior way of speech. We would literally say the same thing about southern podunk "Appalachian" dialects or cockney British dialects. It is inferior not because the speaker is necessarily less intelligent for having that dialect, but because it is indicative of their level of education and prevents them from partaking in the benefits of mainstream society though achieving upward mobility. Normalizing it is essentially saying "we arent capable of bettering ourselves and become more successful culturally, so we will just try to change the general perceptions in our environment to our advantage." Which is and will always be a huge fail.
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>>78121829

nigger speak is a language now, what a time to be alive.
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>>78121829
hate to break it to you guys but he's right. Dialects and languages are not top down. Rules for languages are only temporary and not static. They evolve and if a way od speaking becomes widespread it also becomes "right"
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>>78125965
Well niggerspeak is not an evolution. That dumbed down english offers no room for expression. That's why they argue so much.
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>>78121829
Lmao... Because this is what inner city public school has come to.

Just paid my kids private school tuition. Because my family is better than yours. ;)
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