America is going to hell because of a failure of education specifically with social studies
What do American students need to be learning to graduate high school so they don't turn out to be massive idiots
1. In depth knowledge of American history from start to finish
2. Mastery of the Constitution
3. Examination of classical Greek and Roman civilizations
4. Grasp of essential European history
Everything else is a huge waste of time and doing a huge disservice to Americans
Learning about Africa, Asia, Latin America is not needed and basically a huge waste of time. If anything kids interested in history should be able to take electives in these courses.
World history in general is a huge waste and basically fluff
Social studies needs a huge overhaul
bumping
>>78086719
There's literally no excuse to not knowing your country's history.
>>78087439
There is if the educational system in your country is crap
As a social studies teacher I watch with horror as higher ups (department chairs, curriculum directors on a state level) turn American social studies into globalist propaganda
And what American history they do get is demoralized anti American BS
>pro socialism with FDR
>founding fathers are racist
>Native Americans got killed
>slavery evil
>Womyn stronk and voting
>Muh Immigration
It truly makes me want to stop teaching its terrible
>>78088031
I learned most of what I know from reading on my own.
Most of Canada (at least in BC) teaches you history like this:
Egypt
Rome
Fall of Rome
The making of Canada
How evil we were for taking the land from the natives
Canada in the wars
How evil we were for putting the Japanese in camps during WWII
How evil the ebil Nazis were
How much the poor Jews were picked on
That's about it, sadly.
>>78088353
>Japanese in camps
LEL
you guys did that too? I had no idea
>First people to come to Britain, two weeks dedicated to early Manx settlements and history
>Rise of Rome and its conquests, emphasis on their technological and cultural advantages
>Brief overview of Manx Dark Ages history along with events on the mainland
>Rise of England with information about the Kingdom of Mann and the Isles
>In-depth study of European and American history during the 20th century
>Various courses chosen by the teachers in the final two years of education, including the rise of Germany and the Glorious Revolution
Pretty based education system.
>>78088578
Yeah, the camps weren't terrible really, we just rounded them all up just in case.
>>78086719
We need to replace social studies with civics
I have always been a history buff and I am starting school to get a masters degree in American history, so I know all these things. What does the average American come out knowing?
>>78090163
I remember when I was in the 6th grade, (That makes me about 11) I tried bringing up the topic that the Japanese camps were not THAT bad, and mainly get a stigma now because of the Jewish camps. I was ridiculed until I moved back from Chicago.
>>78089629
Tell me about your country. I know nothing about it.
>>78093094
Generally very little. Information is shown through a revisionist lens to demonize some things of the past (like the founding fathers owning slaves).
>>78086719
> America is going to hell because of a failure of education specifically with social studies
It's not a failure; it's purposeful ideological indoctrination. It's going to get worse too, because the curriculum will revolve around social justice.
> Everything else is a huge waste of time and doing a huge disservice to Americans
I wouldn't go that far because I do think Americans ought to have knowledge of the outside world.
>>78093819
There's a point in that I don't think American history should be taught based off of ignoring the worse or most distasteful elements of our history in order to indoctrinate people into mindless patriotism. That being said the pendelumn has definitely swung far in the opposite direction
>>78093290
I did too. This one half-Asian half-white girl started going on about the internment camps being equivalent to Nazi concentration camps. My autism was triggered and she ended up crying.
>>78096198
Very true. Both sides need to be represented in our history. We have done great good and great evil, but what's mainly shown is that evil.
It's not "messed up". If anything it's working, because it's indocrination. Force almost every kid in the country into a classroom, and brainwash them with your propaganda at a young age.
That's why so many 20-ish year olds are SJWs and socialists these days.
>>78086719
Guy from country school where they taught all that shit as well as the stuff you called irrelevant.
What are you getting at? They already do what you're talking about, students just don't bother remembering it. And I would argue that stuff about Asia and Africa is important. Africa so we know what a hell hole it is, and many parts of Asia are related to European history. Speaking of which only learning white history would be doing them even more of a disservice. If you want to believe whites are great you'd have to have something to compare them to. You would be missing pretty big chunks of important history that you should know.
>>78086719
>Learning about Africa, Asia, Latin America
Schools teach this pointless garbage? My schools certainly didn't, it was almost all US center history, with the exception of the required World Geography class and Economics.
>>78086719
I agree with all of the above. They should basically learn all of Europe's history from the end of Ancient Egypt, through the Roman Empire, to the dark ages, crusades, renaissance, discovery of America, and in depth on Napoleon and every war after the US war of independence.
I also agree with Constitution/Law
I think Math is important, a basic electronics course, a basic programming course and a "history and understanding of what the internet is, where it came from, how it's used and how it can harm you" course.
