Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere that women have been in the military (in combat roles)
Its so god damn unnatural and makes zero fucking sense... Mens and womens bodies are literally built for certain purposes and we are ignoring this.
good. they will be sex slaves of mujaahiden.
Japan had Onna Bushi before the Samurai class came into power. It was fine.
I could see women being Snipers or Covert Ninja style assassins. Quiet and far away. I wouldn't want them for front line combat.
>>78084993
People don't realise what kind of skill it takes to be a sniper.
Women can't handle it, there is almost nowhere you can put a woman on the battlefield.
>>78084627
Russian women in ww2, but Russians are a different story.
>>78084627
Women have historically only been drafted when a nation is on the brink of defeat and is getting desperate. It never works.
>>78084627
Sycthian women weren't allowed to marry, and reproduce until they killed an enemy. They would cut their breast off to aid in pulling a bowstring back.
That was a long time ago though, and steppe people didn't have any other choice but to fight like savages.
There were also arab horsewomen that the muzzies hunted down, and exterminated. Women make decent horse jockeys, but that's about it.
I really don't mind, they're retarded and useless in combat but if I didn't have a supply of pussy out in the field I might have actually killed myself or went AWOL, they're good for that.
>>78085203
they'd be more useful as portable morale boosters.
>>78085548
>They would cut their breast off to aid in pulling a bowstring back.
That sounds like some grade a bullshit.
You would risk dying of blood loss and infection, i dont believe thst for one second.
>>78085783
Waste of resources if you as me.
I ain't saying women are useless, just that each gender has roles that they are more appropiate for.
Sporadic use throughout history, mostly as a last ditch effort (Vietnam, Israel, Soviet Union in WWII, etc).
It has mixed results. There are certainly women who are more than capable of handling themselves, but for every one of those, there's likely a thousand that are completely useless or even detrimental to unit cohesion and espirit d'corps.
Basically, in these days when we have standing armies composed primarily of volunteers rather than conscripts, and conventional warfare is essentially dead, there is no good reason to introduce a liability into the military.
>>78085203
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
>>78085783
yea sure until some one gets heated and kills a squad mate over petty relationship crap
>>78084627
>running around with rifles
>making a point about how unnatural (and therefore bad, I assume?) war is
Just...
>>78085839
>that pic
fuggggg
Women should only be in combat if all the men are dead and there's no one left to fight for them
>>78085848
I'm googling it, and i think you're right. It was something i heard in a documentary. Looks like it was bullshit.
They definitely fought, and had to kill an enemy to marry. There were old women who never had kids because they never killed.
>>78084627
blame this on SJWs
they asked for equality
they get equality
its not supposed to make sense
>>78084993
>Snipers
>Quiet and far away
Mate, they're 2 km away from an outright battle zone or command centre by design.
Nobody sane is going to put a woman in a situation where she is the crucial factor in an entire operation, then strip out ALL support from her while putting her within jogging distance of the enemy (who WILL rape her if they get her).
>>78086056
>Soviet """Snipers"""
A sniper back in WW2 meant someone who could hit a target from a decent range semi reliably, that's why they had over 2,000 of the things.
Nowadays "sniper" means "blow someone's head off from 1.5 km away without fucking up once while also undernourished and extremely hot"
>>78086164
This. Frontline infantry might have high physical requirements, but not necessarily only upper body strength. They might have to train more, but it bet a lot women could meat physical requirements for most military jobs.
>>78086056
>Wow, because of this one cherrypicked wiki page surely all women are born pro snipers.
Just no, the reason there is an entire page about her is because she's the exception and not the rule.
>>78086185
>getting excited about a woman covered head to toe in black
found the muslime.
>>78085548
Is that a story from the Greeks?
Greek historians aren't the most reliable
>>78084627
They have been used historically, the majority were for ceremonial duties or as the private bodyguards (see concubines) for leaders, or more rarely for home defense or, in the case of the Russians, when so many men and boys have died that there is no other option but to use them
They have never been a significant presence in any war or even any important battle that I've heard of
>>78084627
Albanian women during times of war.
>>78086341
>eans "blow someone's head off from 1.5 km away
Retard confirmed. You never aim for the head. It's a small target. You always go for middle of the torso. Go back to playing CoD.
>>78086406
Reminds me of pic related.
You just know they'll be attractive if they take the balaclava off
>>78086437
It looks like the Greek translation for "ha-mazan"(Iranian for "warrior") meant "without breast." That's where that confusion came from.
Lady Trieu did bretty good but died in battle.
She was so spooky to the Chinks that they made a fuckton of stone and wooden dongs to keep her raging spirit away from their fortifications. She supposedly thought dicks were icky.
>>78086463
>not 720 no-scoping someone's head from 2km away
stay pleb
In Europe it was common for women and children to pull the wagons of supplies when a tribe went on a do or die war against the Romans etc, they would make wall with the wagons so the men couldn't try and retreat and if it all went tits up the women and children would join the fight too.
>>78084993
Oh my fucking god, we're not doing this shit again you fucking faggot. Sniper carry a shit ton of equipment, wait days on the same spot for their targets to shot up, piss and shit themself and crawl miles trhought swamp. It really fucking physically killing and only the most enduring can ever dream of being sniper.
It's not a fucking video game you fucking autistic cum guzzling twat, holy fucking shit do you even realize how fucking retarded you are?
Onna Bushi predating the real samurai? What the fucking is actually wrong with your fucking brain?
Holy shit I can't believe this shit you meeky /v/irgin fuck this is literally on a whole new level of faggotree.
Snipers are not fast and agile latex suit assassins, holy shit, please seriously consider killing yourself.
You are literally disgusting. I just don't know how to word my rage properly right now.
You're literally the worst.
>>78086660
yeah, cause she's a professional model taking photos. of course she's attractive under all that. it's her fucking job.
What does "combat roles" mean? Front line combat? Guard duty?
>>78086463
>small target
They deliberately allow for an undershot in terms of accuracy and aim for the head. If the bullet doesn't hit the head as intended it'll hit their chest.
>>78086727
>>78086352
>but it bet a lot women could meat physical requirements for most military jobs.
Apparently not, the Marines still haven't found a woman that can pass the officers training and of the 200 hand picked women that the army tried to get ranger tabbed only 2 or 3 made it and there are a lot of unanswered questions about whether or not they actually earned graduation like all the men
>>78086739
>Source: My ass.
>>78086799
>>78084627
I think all combat roles should be held by women. Fuck 'em. It's their turn to die with bullets burned into their chests in the name of our country.
>>78084627
Women would actually be pretty useful in the army. You could put them in roles that don't see frontline combat, like millitary police or artillery crewman, which would free up more able-bodied men for the front lines. Kinda like how the germans restructured the wermacht in 1944, where they replaced all non-combat roles with old geezers to free up more manpower.
>>78084627
Yeah, that's ridiculous. They should be at preparing the army food, nursing or cleaning bullet shells.
>>78086968
Ranger or SF are a lot higher bars than 11B.
>>78086709
The rest of it sounds equally unbelievable though
>>78086164
"PRIVATE MARY COME OVER HERE NOW, CARRY THAT SOLDIER!!!! IT BLEW HIS LEGS RIGHT THE FUCK OFF" -"but but i can't carry a 90kg man with 30kg equipment because i am a 5.8" 65 woman"
>>78087018
>get approached by female MP while shitfaced
>laugh and walk away
>>78085203
not true. some of the officers used to like sleeping with the female soldiers so they'd often just be left around the HQ.
>>78087063
They didn't become rangers, they just got tabbed, basically anyone can
>>78086968
Also, from what I read several women passed the enlisted infantry marine requirements.. just not the two that went for officer training.
>>78084627
>Newsreel announcer: Young people from all over the globe are joining up to fight for the future.
>Soldier #1: I'm doing my part.
>Soldier #2: I'm doing my part.
>Soldier #3: I'm doing my part.
>Woman: I'm doing my part too. [other soldiers laugh]
>Newsreel announcer: They're doing their part. Are you? Join the Mobile Infantry and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship.
>>78086968
only 2 made it through Ranger School, after having personal nutritionists and trainers to get them ready. And instead of two fuck ups and you're out (like a normal student) they could recycle as much as they wanted. Also many students in that class have reported instructors "looking the other way" when the female candidates did something that would've had a male candidate thrown out. And that was just for Ranger school, a TRADOC course. It's only a matter of time before they try to force them through RASP or SFAS.
>>78087304
Sure, but what I'm saying is that the ranger requirements are much higher to pass than standard infantry ones.
>>78087070
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141029-amazons-scythians-hunger-games-herodotus-ice-princess-tattoo-cannabis/
I doubt they were used offensively, but they probably shot back when attacked.
>>78087018
They are absolute shit as weapons crews, they don't have the strength or endurance necessary to load or move shells and ammunition
>>78087403
It was a small boy, not a woman.... you have disgraced the movie
>>78087344
Sauce?
>>78087554
That was the joke.
>>78087188
They are pretty much escorts at that point then.
>>78087454
Really the bare minimum standard for Rangers are not hard. 5 mile run in 40 minutes, 12 mile ruck in 3 hours, 90% on the Army's weak ass PT test, and 6 pull ups. If you're in the active infantry and can't do that.... well you have some work to do.
Mostly it's the day to do life that separates Rangers out from regular army 11B's.
>>78087737
>hijab
[laugh canadianly]
>>78087454
And there were only a few capable, out of all the army
Before the social experiment took place they hand selected all the women that could possibly make it and they couldn't find enough to fill out a fire team
Vikings I guess. But that was a different time
>>78088033
Never happened, the shield maidens are a myth
>>78087156
>implying there aren't men around
If they really aren't: Who can carry more, a woman who is there, or a woman who is not?
>>78084627
Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere where we've been so heavily reliant on straight up foreigners in the military?
The job of the military is to go crack said foreigners head in times of conflict.
Several more decades of "Up is down" political thinking are going to outright destroy this country.
>>78088162
Honestly its pretty much the same either way
>>78087018
120lb grill
loading a 95 lb projectile into a cannon at a sustained rate of 2 per minute
seems like it will work
>>78086056
I dont remember where but i once read that the kill count of some of these soviet female snipers were far exaggerated and a tool to boost the morale of the male soldiers. Makes sense to me
>>78086787
You have some fucking nerve to declare what is real and what isn't, considering that the "sit for days to wait for a target" type of talk is complete fucking bullshit. Only a small percentile of certified snipers/marksmen, will EVER have some sort of mission like that. And it will only happen in some shady SOF/CIA paramilitary unit. Snipers don't run around on their own for days at a time assassinating people, okay?
>>78085839
>>78086660
>>78086896
>>78087293
>>78087737
>>78088017
>>78088331
On a scale of 0 to ten how much would you say tactical attractiveness is relevant to the job?
I would say a massive fucking 0
>>78088583
It's not a fucking video game where man are in power armor and women in stealth suit. Grow the fuck up.
>>78088239
I mean, if you're going to allow foreign nationals from not only outside to serve in the military, but from countries that we have an antagonistic and complex relationship with, why not just let the Russians run the CIA and the Chinese the FBI?
Weird pinko commie world I Live in.
>>78084627
just go with it lol it's 2016
>>78088464
I don't know. WWII was so large scale, it makes sense that plenty of people - including females - would eventually rack up a triple digit number of kills. And it's not like the women were wasting dudes in hand-to-hand combat; they were shooting from far away, often behind the safety of their infantry and armor.
>>78088788
i'm sure ahmed and his friends will appreciate it though.
>>78088239
Romans were pretty much entirely reliant on allied "foederati" for their defense for the last 80 or so years of the West after Adrianople.
>>78086605
Thats a nice bunched up group of people out in the open, you've got there...
What's that famous Serbian woman who dressed up as a man to fight in ww1?
>>78084627
We're not ignoring this, women's bodies are going to be reasonably well suited to the 24 hour bukakke gang rape sessions they're going to be subjected to when they get captured after fleeing battle
>>78089025
yeah, and how'd that end for them?
>>78088975
Those hoop earrings are triggering me.
>>78088978
Ahmed and his friends will rape anything they capture regardless of whether or not it has a pussy. Hot chick or toothless Mexican dude are all getting reemed by Hajis.
>>78088962
Its pretty unreasonable when you look at well documented accounts of people who saw a lot of action
There was no shortage of propaganda on all sides of the war
>>78089158
They are stylishly tactical anon. Just like the camo lipstick she use.
>>78088788
>It's not a fucking video game where man are in power armor and women in stealth suit. Grow the fuck up.
What the fuck does that have to do with your retard ass thinking that every sniper is some covert badass going behind enemy lines on solo missions to assassinate people? You know absolutely nothing about what snipers ACTUALLY do most of the time, and have it in your head that every person who's a sniper must be some special operations hardass, when in reality that's so fucking far from the case.
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>78089104
They were holding the highlands at the time and Ortega's Hinds were grounded due to a mind fuck operation by Bob Brown.
>>78086787
You're so upset at a sentence.
>>78089394
why are you here if you're going to insult everybody and give no actual points
>>78084627
The real problem with female soldiers is that they'll inevitably be affirmative actioned into positions that they aren't qualified for, which will over time have the effect of turning the leadership from a serious command entity into a social club that exists solely to enforce PC dogma within the military.
>>78089394
and you're a fucking gullible COD faggot.
go back to making "your mom" jokes on shit servers
>>78089124
It was going pretty well, but then the foederati became Arian christians and saw the Romans as weakened heretics.
>>78088962
>shots fired in your general direction
>wildly shoot in front of you from cover
>enemy fire stops
>"i must have got him"
>"Anastasia Smirnov has recorded over 300 confirmed kills while on the frontlines."
>>78086851
Holy shit, can you backpedal any faster?
>>78089394
Wow lad you seems like you know a lot about this sniper stuff and how they operate and why it would be a suitable role for females, enlighten me please.
>>78089518
A very ridiculous idea I have seen growing like cancer here.
Memes aside, at least women should be part of the militia. It's in their best interest not to get raped by invading hordes (with the notable exception of Germany, they seem to have developed a fetish).
>>78084627
Mulan
>>78089718
Meme aside I think this is pretty obvious lobbying from the army to make people think real life is video game now so they accept the new bill more easily. I mean, come on, tomb raider did it!
>>78084627
Byzantine Empire vs. Turks.
Byzantine Empire lost multiple times.
The Ancient Scythians had their women participate in fighting.
>>78086787
y se fue al carajo nomas
>>78087018
Women are already MP's. At least in the Army they are and in my experience on base they suck at their jobs to.
>>78084627
As long as women are set far away and are not doing hand-to-hand combat they should be fine. They should be trained constantly to have amazing aim, I mean like that should be their only job other than being physically fit is to just have amazing aim. Then they should just be set up in armored position and snipe the fuck out of everything. No carrying men to safety or actual fighting, they literally cannot fucking handle it
>>78089394
You ever read Carlos Hathcock's book? Do you even know who Carlos Hathcock is?
Modern """"sniping""" missions are of course bullshit because the US is not fighting an organized army, but a guerilla force. Squad would be sent in, backed up by thousands of support equipment like recon aircraft, not even behind enemy lines (because who's really the enemy here?), they would fire off a couple rounds then displace.
Back in the days of Vietnam it was literally like leafbro described it, snipers had to crawl for days, scout targets for weeks and literally assassinated people. Those were true snipers
>>78089869
The "at least" binds to "militia", not "women". Not talking about sending them to the front line, but teaching them to be ready when the front line comes to them.
>>78086787
you tell them leaf
>>78087188
>literally draining test from a soldiers body during a war
is this the kind of thinking that went into the Emu War?
>>78087304
Anyone can attempt to get the tab, but that doesn't mean you will. Everyone I know who went through the class have permanent back injuries now, one of those being multiple slipped disks and yet he's still in the infantry.
>>78086787
Wow are you fucking pissy, did you run out of dogs to eat or some shit?
>>78089865
That's a man in a skirt and wig.
>>78090144
It would be a lot better to just put the time and money spent on training women to shoot at targets to train real, useful soldiers
>>78085203
Women make decent snipers, actually. I forget the specifics, but they have better long range vision, but worse twitch reaction, so they CAN make good snipers, they just work it differently from men.
>>78084627
The peshmerga have female units that work well, and various jihadi groups use women soldiers. The problem isn't with women soldiers themselves, it's with mixed units. The men feel the need to protect and compensate for the women in the squad who are weaker, and it causes problems. Those same problems don't arise in non-mixed units.
My fellow Americans, we are too fat for real war which is why women are needed to fill the support functions so there are enough fit men for the front lines. If you can't do 20 push-ups, you're the problem.
>>78089580
>inevitably be affirmative actioned into positions that they aren't qualified for, which will over time have the effect of turning the leadership from a serious command entity into a social club that exists solely to enforce PC dogma within the military.
So the military is finally catching up with modern progressive American society? I seriously don't see a future for this country.
>>78090297
youre waifu a shit
>>78084627
Russia. WW2.
Most of them didn't have a choice and the Russkies didn't give a shit about the gender of flesh shield walls.
>>78090298
Certainly looks it.
I'm a m1a2 abrams crewmember (currently gunner) and I honestly believe that women can and will do just fine as tank crewmembers.. The most physically intensive task in a tank is being the loader, and anybody with experience loading can tell you that being able to load in under 7 seconds is not about strength, it's about technique. The drivers station is so small that a short, skinny female would be comfortable and could easily spend the 24+ hours that sometimes (although rarely) is required to stay in there. Gunning is not even remotely physically intensive, unless you lose power and need to use manual controls.
Only other thing I can think of is maintenance, and if she is able to pass the insanely easy female apft push up requirement, then she is strong enough to do 90% of shit required to maintain a tank at operator level.
We have plenty of males who are weak, stupid, and plain incompetent. I don't see females being any worse.
Not 'military' in the strict sense of the word, they were, however removing turks with stonesand hot tar/oil and stuff.
>>78090322
Women differentiate between colors better, men's eyes are better at all the things a soldier/sniper needs, tracking movement and seeing detail at distance being at the top
>>78089674
I actually knew a girl like this when I went through my CO training. She bragged about how she was this awesome sharpshooter - better than any of the men - and when she completely missed her target during the test, she claimed she had been accidentally shooting at MY target the entire time. They awarded my score to her, claiming I'd missed all twenty shots. I went again, scored perfectly, and they were like, "Wow, you really got better over the past thirty seconds!"
>>78084993
To be a Marine Scout Sniper is to be a man of uncommon fortitude. No women will ever be able to pass the training unless serious standard lowering takes place. A women couldn't do it.
>>78090320
If they are successfully killing people than it should be no problem
Also
>America
>worrying about a military budget ever
There is no cap to our military budget, we are number 1 and we always will be because that is our mentality. And if we ever did, Papa Netanyahu and the JIDF would probably give us money so we would send more people to protect them since we are all they've got.
>>78084993
>I could see women being Snipers
As someone who has been assigned to sniper section in an infantry battalion before, no they could not.
No woman would carry a 50lb+ ruck up a near vertical fucking mountain while also carrying your rifle or rifles in some cases (the M110 weights 15lbs, the M2010 weighs 12lbs and the M107 weighs 31lbs) and wearing kit (my kit in sniper section weighed about 35lbs) then set up a fucking hide and sit in 110 degree heat watching fucking nothing for 20 straight hours without sleeping only to be told that you need to shift positions and make a 8km movement on foot to the next mountain top over and set in before the sun comes back up or some other dumb bullshit.
It's fucking hard, and you generally aren't actually that far away from the enemy, often 600-800m, well within engagement range for many enemy weapon systems.
>>78090494
>Canadian banter
>>78090887
I would've bodied her and everyone in the room if that shit happened
>>78091002
That's not banter, get the fuck back to your weebs boards you gaymer fuck.
>>78090912
There is a cap to our military budget, I have had multiple training exercises get cancelled at the last minute due to insufficient funds from the government. I have also had parts for my vehicle be put on hold due to insufficient funds from the unit. Which was entirely Obama's doing.
>>78090660
Have you ever seen a woman attempt to load though? Even after being taught the proper technique they will be worse than men, look at all the technique based sports that are still gender segregated
>unless you lose power and need to use manual controls
Seems like planning for the worst case scenario in war would be a good idea
>>78084627
Don't care OP.
I for one Fucking LOVE the idea of putting women in combat roles.
It's about fucking time they do some dying.
I remember watching a movie about Vietnam back when I was 11 years old. Grown ass men scared to death of going to another country and dying. Scared fucking shitless burning their draft paperwork.
Meanwhile.. 1960s feminist are in the bond fire along side them burning their bras.
As if it equated to the same thing.
I fucking grew up thirty God damn five now. Spent 10 years in the army as infantry. Beat the fuck up and sucking in some God third world shit hole, climbing mountains all day.
Reading my Facebook feeds, listening to neo feminist bitch about this and that.
No OP.. These fucking bitches should have to sign up for selective service and Fucking Die like everyone else.
>>78085548
This is certifiable not true you mongoloid. It was an exaggerated legend because they had more gender equality than greeks were used to which led to dong expansion over amazon fetishes.
>>78091099
>implying I'm a weeb
Ling Ling don't project on me
>>78090660
Keep those v-packs clean greensuiter.
>>78084627
>makes zero fucking sense
Remember Obama is a Muslim who hates America and wants to destroy it, that is what every decision he makes is based on.
>>78091255
Tyron how can you even post from the cell are you on probation again?
>>78084627
The Amazons you sexist!
>>78091147
Invent artificial uterus. Send bitches out to die. Sounds glorious.
>>78085783
You clearly never worked with women
>>78091428
bene tleilaxu 4 life
>>78091122
Yes I have seen females load, mechanics/medics who we brought in the tanks during gunnery so they could see what it's like. They didn't do amazing, but it was well within the standard.
Using manual controls is not difficult. If it gets to the point where it's required the tank commander will take over shooting. If his controls are down then you are pretty much a firepower kill already.
>>78091262
Just blew em out today
>>78090034
Agreed, I'm an MP in the Air Force and there was only one chick I worked with that wasn't shit and she was like 5 foot 6 inches 165lb and ran 3-5 miles every day and lifted.
>>78091147
Watched my best friend step on an IED, listen to him scream for hours it seems while I pulled security on some fucking mud hut.
The whole idea of picturing women down range having to suffer like the rest of the army. Tickles me fucking stupid, I am anxiously awaiting the first movie about a women who got PTSD from shooting up a house full of women and children.
>>78084627
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article84983262.html
Six out of seven female recruits — and 40 out of about 1,500 male recruits — failed to pass the new regimen of pull-ups, ammunition-can lifts, a 3-mile run and combat maneuvers required to move on in training for combat jobs, according to the data.
Failing the tests, taken about 45 days into basic training, forces recruits into less physically demanding Marine jobs.
The high failure rate for women recruits, however, raises questions about how well integration can work, including in Marine infantry units where troops routinely slog for miles carrying packs weighed down with artillery shells and ammunition, and at any moment must be able to scale walls, dig in and fight in close combat.
>>78091743
>Security forces in the Air Force.
I'm sorry anon, they did you dirty.
>>78091147
This. If the womynz want equality, give it to them good and hard.
>>78084627
Women have always fought on the home front. Having them in combat roles is borderline retarded and weakens our military even further.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/09/11/marines-combat-study/
Friendly reminder, women are objectively a liability in the military, even in non combat jobs and especially in any job that requires speed
>>78092021
tl:dr: they lower the standards for women
No Ypg Qt's?
>>78085471
I need some sauce on that 775 confirmed kills.
>>78091332
*Tyroné
And yes I am on probation and starting my life over, my KFC shift starts in ten minutes so I must go. Good day sir
Yours truly ~~~
Ya Boii Tyroné
>>78091939
^__^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIo9wvDLsBA
>>78091939
Lol I put it as mp because I figured people would be confused by security forces and I got an easy base so it's boring but it's not bad. Not to mention my comander is prior enlisted :D
>>78085848
Confirmed non-euro history student
>>78092368
Had my eyes watering from the first part.
>>78084993
That's a myth.
Every single "female warrior" claimed to be historical were all myths, even Joan of Ark.
Not hard to understand why.
Women are physiologically weaker there's no getting around this.
A fight that doesn't involve guns between a man and a woman assuming both are equally trained, the man will every time.
>>78084627
they fought in the american revolution you dumbass
>>78086311
All historical "accounts" of warrior women are fabricated by feminist "historians".
They're even trying to do it with vikings now, pointing to some tombs of viking women who just happened to have weapons burried with her and assume "SHE WAS CLEARLY A WARRIOR!!!"
Even though there's no way of knowing that and those weapons were most likely her husbands and her husbands body couldn't be found.
Viking women were expected to defend themselves and their household if the husband was absent but they were never put into war.
Only comfy modern western people think it's a good idea to try to make a soldier out of someone who will never be able to lift as much or run as long as her male counterparts.
And only feminism brainwashed women into thinking they could handle it.
>>78093145
Joan of Arc was real, but she was never a warrior.
>>78093659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NujhCEBoF7s
>>78084627
>Mens and womens bodies are literally built for certain purposes and we are ignoring this.
well in the past wars were fought with pure raw strength. Clubbing and murdering each other with crude instruments. That requires strength that 90% of all women do not have. Biology is unfair and cruel that way.
However modern day drone striking, tanking driving, plane flying, firearms fighting and so on do not really have same requirements. A women with a gun can kill a man twice her size. A child with a gun can kill the worlds strongest man. We have more or less made our biology insignificant. More or less. Because mindset is also a big factor in warfare and men tend to be more aggressive and faster to make a quick on your feet decision than most women. So yes, women in war is indeed unnatural but so is killing people 5000 miles away with a drone.
In infantry combat roles men still dominate because physical strength is still a factor. When mechanical combat suits become a thing this last natural barrier will be removed. I still predict men will make the bulk since killing people face to face takes a special mindset most women do not have.
>>78093992
Warfare is more then shooting, it's also about moving (never mind that women are worse at shooting then men due to worse binocular vision)
Women struggle and have high injury rates carrying what infantry are expected to carry (usually in excess of 100lbs of equipment and armour)
>>78093145
Jeanne d'Arc was a real person.
The idea of her being a warrior is historically inaccurate though, by her own admission she always carried her banner and never killed anyone in combat, and she never led troops in combat.
She was basically a cheerleader that the French nobles listened to because they thought her advice was Divinely inspired.
The hilarity of it all is that in the end she wasn't burned at the stake for being a false prophet or anything super fucking serious, but heresy for cross-dressing, because she wore pants in prison to deter rape.
>>78093992
Don't forget women are emotional and irrational under pressure. I'd be terrified to serve with women because they'd probably let me die so they could survive.
>>78091896
>carrying packs filled with artillery shells
U wot m8?
>>78094304
I addressed that.
Modern infantry combat is still men only. Or nearly. You will find that cherry pick woman who can perform. However putting women and men together in combat units might not be that smart since men have an urge to protect women and thus would worry much more.
>>78094558
that what I meant with mindset. Men are quick to form into packs and function well in tight groups. Its a trait from our time as hunter gathers. Again biology do not care about equality of the sexes only about efficiency.
>>78088239
Romans with feoderati and mercenaries
Turks and Mamelukes with their slave soldiers
Big Empires almost always have foreign units or use mercenaries and auxiloaries
Aka Napoleon France, Russia, Germany, GB, succesor kingdoms
>>78086056
That's called anecdotal evidence, anon.
>>78093659
I didn't mean to say she didn't exist.
>>78094851
Not uncommon for infantry to carry extra ammunition for platoon mortars. IIRC every one of our soldiers during the Falklands war carried 2 mortar shells
>>78084993
>I could see women being Snipers
do you know how fucking heave sniper equipment is, and how fucking physically demanding the job is?
>or Covert Ninja style assassins
stop getting your military knowledge from video games and anime
Many jewish females fought for the partisans in WW2. also throughout Israeli history
https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%95%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%98%D0%B0_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Szenes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_Battalion
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracha_Fuld
https://www.idfblog.com/blog/2012/01/15/5-most-hardcore-female-combat-roles/
>>78091316
you make no sense.
In World of Warcraft I can create female warriors and paladins, so why not women in military?
>>78093536
>Only comfy modern western people think it's a good idea to try to make a soldier out of someone who will never be able to lift as much or run as long as her male counterparts.
>And only feminism brainwashed women into thinking they could handle it.
it's especially retarded when they do it with old shit like vikings - they fought with fucking swords and axed! in melee combat, women are even MORE disadvantaged than they are in modern gun combat!
>>78097080
In the US we have the crazy mountains in Montana that were named after a settler woman who found her husband dead and kids being raped by Blackfeet Indians. She went nuts and killed 4 of them with an axe because they were too busy raping to get up and stop the axe smashing into their heads. Anyway the other 2 Indians ran off and the chick went nuts and the indians stayed the fuck away from her after that because she was fucking crazy.
lol Montana.
>>78084627
i was thinking the same thing.
Untill i served, and my sargent was a 1.90cm high, 90kg heavy fat-ish female powerlifter, ginger as FUCK and with a deep voice.
authoritarian, really good at every single aspect of being a leader in a military enviroment.
Its one in a literal thousand tho, i understand that, but fuck, some feman can be useful.
>>78085203
Camp followers, medics, camp maids/ditch diggers/gophers, mess staff,].
Alternatively they could function in all female tank crews or support crews.
>>78084627
Serbia in WWI (a woman pretended to be a man, and by the time she was found out she had proven her worth so she was allowed to stay), USSR in WWII...
>>78084993
>or Covert Ninja style assassins
You need to cut back on the anime senpai
>>78084627
Yes, throughout history. There has never been a century, in all of recorded history, during which there are not records of women serving in a military role.
Widespread? Nah.
But not a single century, in all of recorded history, in which women are not recorded as having fought in a war.
>>78086104
I think they should do more undercover roles. like steal Chinese secrets
>>78097914
>proven her worth
>she sucks a bunch of dicks
>Not even a single post about YPJ in Syria civil war kiling ISIS as we speak
LoL
>>78098421
Agency has gotten squeamish on fucking for secrets over the years.
But yeah historically women have played a significant role in espionage
>>78098070
>forgetting to mention that most of them did shit or stayed away from the battlefield
>>78084627
They're just trying to completely destroy the capacity of our military to fight. Bill Whittle was right about this years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DS2wXSKF5k
>>78099224
Most of everybody strays and does shit. Find a century you don't think has women recorded as fighting in it. Go on--I'm happy to disprove your claims. I'm not gonna pull forty--eight sourrces outa my asshole, but I'll be happy to tackle any individual one, than you please.
>>78099022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk36pP_yD-Q
>Born to late to explore the earth
>Born too early to explore space
>Born just in time to fight in WW3 and buttfuck dismembered soldier gurlz as they bleed out and scream for daddy
feels good man
>>78099728
NERF NATO
FUCKIN NUCLEAR 50 CALS
>>78088978
>implying you wouldn't
I would do that shit
war is war
>>78090322
Being a sniper is more than eye sight. You need to be able to do high level math in your head on the fly. Women can't do that. Plus the physical and mental requirements are incredible for snipers.
>>78084627
>Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere that women have been in the military (in combat roles)
That's because normally when countries have women in combat roles they don't stay as their current countries for very long.
>>78099728
These give me serious feels.
You have any of the other ones?
>>78100276
People are people so why should it be that you and I should get along so awfully?
>mfw too unhealthy to fight
Yep, let the women do some of the hard work while I stay home and cheer them on.
>>78100454
>f-f-feminism halp
>y-you said I was just as strong as any silly man
>but then why did I fall behind the unit during the retreat and get half my torso ripped out by a 30mm?
>daddy
>>78087018
>women in artillery
Yeah no. Hefting shells is something that women are inferior to men at doing.
Maybe they would make good fighter pilots? Of course, if they bail out they will be raped.
>>78100694
>Leaving a man behind
Suck a crumpet, faggot.
>>78100860
I don't recall leaving any man behind.
>>78084627
There were kurdish women who fought pretty well lately
Communist russia got quite a bit of women to fight for them when they didnt have enough men to fight off nazis, out of that one of the deadliest snipers was a female
The idf deployed women and ended up with only negative effects
Thats all i know
>>78100694
>only saving a woman if she calls you daddy
the correct course of action
The mongols trained their women just in case, Japan had women soldiers I believe.
The most famous case, I'd argue, is the soviet union with many female soldiers during WWII
>>78100860
Not much to be done when their chest cavity gets splattered twenty feet away by an autocannon.
>>78088583
Perhaps you are thinking of Squad Designated Marksman?
>>78100989
>implying she could possibly be saved at that point
>>78100912
Oh please: you're British. It's not like anyone can tell the difference.
>>78101029
Don't be a little bitch. We don't leave their bodies behind, either. We send people to die, to get those back.
>>78084824
What fucking flag is that.
>>78101123
Who the f draws this kind of stuff?
>>78101127
>being this butthurt about his precious womyn getting hurt
It's not gonna be reserved for 2d for long anon, so you better get used to seeing your lil' girls getting gangraped by mudslimes before they get their head hacked off with a hunting knife on the internet.
>>78101242
Once upon a time it was a fetish.
Soon it will be an accurate image of frontline combat.
>>78101242
Would it bother you anywhere near as much if it was men?
>>78101361
You really think SJWs wont screech for men to "do their duty" or something instead when they see some beheading video?
>>78101461
I think it would, yes.
>>78101230
Georgia
>>78100694
>>78100912
>>78101123
that is just barbaric! do you have any more???
>>78084993
>woman
>sniper
>Quiet
WOAAAHHHOAAAAHH
>>78101461
I like to post images like these - alongside images of the exact same thing happening to men - in relevant discussions. It's a little social experiment of mine.
Images showing men dying horribly in combat generally get ignored. The moment a woman is involved they scream 'sick fetish'. 'what the fuck'. etc. etc.
These same people will also be arguing in favour of women being in combat.
The hypocrisy is disgusting. Like they seem to think consequences don't exist.
>>78101710
Sorry anon, tapped out of anime ones.
Here's a 40k one though.
>>78089116
Milunka Savic ?
>>78101755
You're confusing "hypocrisy" with "wasted boners."
>less competition
>eh. I give zero fucks
>less to compete for
>oh fuck you motherfucker
That's not hypocrisy--it's Vegas.
>>78084627
yes
basically everywhere
>>78101755
>>78101611
So did I pass? Or did we both just get sweet numbers?
>>78084627
Night witches, WWII
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Witches
>>78092291
>>78101896
Oh no I understand the base revulsion towards women being hurt that is more extreme than seeing men hurt.
The hypocrisy is the fact that they are arguing in-favour of women being in frontline combat, yet simultaneously being sickened by an accurate depiction of what happens to people in combat and calling it a 'fetish', as if it's not just a harsh reality of combat.
>>78102034
Well to be honest mate I can't say whether you truly would or wouldn't care less if it were men.
But from my personal experience, people care a LOT more if it's women.
>>78099466
>tfw you will never marry a woman you defended you city beside for a year and a half
Girl on the left has 309 kills
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
> Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere that women have been in the military (in combat roles)
Are Americans retarded? Did you forget that woman have been actively serving and dying in combat roles for the US for over a decade now?
>>78099466
>>78099466
this footage is very surreal.
>>78102143
Dude, come on, now. Anime, guro porn isn't an "accurate depiction" of anything.
>>78102466
>porn
I don't see tits anywhere anon.
Plus it's next to impossible to find girl gore that wasn't drawn by fetishists. Since when tasked with drawing serious violent scenes every artist conveniently forgets the existence of soldier girls they push in every image that doesn't involve violence.
because men make better use of the equipment given to them
>>78084627
>Mens and womens bodies are literally built for certain purposes and we are ignoring this.
Excluding capable and dedicated people makes even less sense. There should be different tests for different classes of soldier, and anyone who can pass a particular test should be allowed into that position.
>>78102720
Porn isn't defined by tits-being-visible. But, by the way? You're actually making my point. Which was that drawings of little girls being mutilated isn't an accurate depiction of anything of the difference between male and female soldiers. Or really anything, because it's usually not an accurate depiction of people being killed, either.
>>78084627
>We bring women into combat.
>6 men, 6 women
>We attack an ISIS stronghold
>Turkish troops block us from our escape, we get capture
>Men get tortured, shot.
>Women become sex slaves, experience the worst sexual abuse for years
I couldn't imagine the suffering of being a captured female soldier. I'd never send women and children to the front lines.
My brother is center-right and he put on a video of two women fighting on UFC or something.
I just made some short comment half-jokingly "This is how you know a society is completely fucked up, when we watch our women fight for entertainment"
He got REALLY defensive and started acting like I was being ridiculous for saying this. He's not usually a fag about anything, we'll both say nigger around each other and talk about somewhat /pol/-tier topics.
Was really surprised. A lot of people are on board with this.
I think it's disgusting.
>>78102936
I wish I could find non-fetish art depicting female soldiers being killed, but I just can't.
You can find a million and one pictures of female soldiers standing around looking tough, or shooting at an off-frame enemy with impunity.
But the moment you find a landscape image featuring soldiers dying horribly, it's always all-men.
>>78103270
I can't watch women UFC, that isn't a sport. It's a cat fight for men to holler at.
>>78103263
Serious question, is rape/sexual abuse really worse than torture?
Guys, back to /pol
Best Korea strikes again!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/21/asia/north-korea-missile/index.html
