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LMAO at Trump's latest FEC report:
>Trump campaign has $1.3 mil cash vs Clinton's $42.5 mil.
>he spend $6.2 mil of his "campaign" money on his own companies
>including $400k+ to mar-a-lago for "catering"
>$350k to tag air for the plain rental
>his staffers are making bank, Lewandowski made $240k/year despite being so shitty to get fired, other senior staffers make $100k+/year
>only spent $115,000 on actual advertising
>spent less than $50k on data / analysis

Source: http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1079423/
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If he wins he's fiscal genius
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all those shekels and shillary is only 6 points ahead? top kek
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where is the fraud?
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>>78084170
His campaign money is his own fucking money. He can spend it in any way he wants.
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>>78084170
Based

Lewandowski isn't shitty, Lewandowski helped him win the primaries by a landslide.
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>>78084494
/thread
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I don't even like trump but what exactly is the controversy? He loans money to his campaign, some of which goes back to his company. How exactly is he making a profit here if the money spent is his in the first place?
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He fired that dude Corey?

Wasn't he doing a great job?
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>>78084474
>>78084494

He said he was going to self fund campaign which was the biggest reason people supported him to win the primary.

After winning does a 180 and begs for money (he originally said he wanted 1bill LOL)

Then he funnels it through his own companies and pays his staffers big ass paychecks while spending literally nothing on actual campaign related expenses.

The money is so low, lower than many congressmen have, which is why republicans are freaking out about it.
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>>78084170
Don't see how that's fraud. Being that he's self funding, it makes sense to feed campaign funds into his already existing businesses and properties
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I'm not defending Trump, but he didn't spend any money and still managed to get nearly 14 million people to vote for him in the primaries. Not to mention he gets all the free advertising he wants, and after the convention the GOP will come around and actually fund him, especially because of the supreme court seat.
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>>78085095
>I'm not defending Trump
GET OUT COMMIE GET OUTTTTTTTTTTT
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Don't care. Hillary is a globalist traitor who should be charged, tried, and convicted of high treason, and publicly executed.
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>>78084659
My theory is that Corey cucked Ivankas jew husband and he got butt hurt and made her make DT get rid of him. Maybe even their kids is Coreys
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>>78084710
>>78085010

Guess whose going to be paying back those loans?

If anyone donates to the Trump campaign going forward, where is that money going? To electing republicans or paying back Trump's loans while he already funneled most of it through himself?
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>>78085241
Kek, I think the real reason is Corey has mostly been active with right-wing anti-migration lobbying groups, while Trump is looking to get some swing and possibly democrat voters right now.
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>>78084170
>he spend $6.2 mil of his "campaign" money on his own companies
You do realize that on paper, Trump the Candidate is different from Trump the Business Owner.

He cant just willy nilly use his personal money on the campaign, he has to "loan" his personal money to his presidential money account. So he is literally paying back the businesses he borrowed from, which is himself......
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>>78084170
IGNORE THESE THREADS DO NOT REPLY.

Don't even bother sage
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>>78084935

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-08/trump-says-no-reason-to-raise-1-billion-for-campaign

"No reason to raise $1 billion"

Also, it's not fraudulent to spend campaign money on businesses you own. It's only fraudulent if you overcharge or undercharge what you would normally charge other people.

So, there was absolutely no way that he could save money on spending to have his campaign housed in his various properties because that would be fraudulent to give himself a discount.

Idk why liberals can't understand election law, but then again they don't like to follow any laws we have on the books already.
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>>78084935
>Still no fraud

Fuck off shill.
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>>78084935

but that's not fraud
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>>78084170
>Getting money out of politics

Well, looks like Hillary, the DNC and her supporters are showing their true colors now
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>>78084170

And still managed to BTFO every challenger so far.

Hillary is next. Be prepared for the storm.
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>>78085586

And? His finances are a disaster.

Its so bad trump fags are panicking about it. see >>78085733

>>78085799
Lmao you quote his flip flop

Trump originally:
>"We're going to try and raise over a billion dollars which is what's going to be necessary. The Democrats maybe will get as high as two billion dollars"

>>78085877
>>78085928

Maybe not legally yeah, but you've got to be fucking retard not to see right through him at this point.
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>>78084170
>only spend $115,000 on actual advertising
>spent less than $50k on data / analysis

>crushed a field of 16 in a landslide, getting the most votes in GOP primary history
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>>78085225
This.
/thread
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The Dems are going to win by such a landslide in November, the tears and suicide pacts on /pol/ will be so delicious.
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Can you imagine if Hillary did this?? pol would be having a field day
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>>78086105
Meanwhile Hillary is leveraging American foreign policy "favors" for *foreign* donations to to her foundation.

That is actually very illegal.
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>>78086105

He flipped on it because he realized in order to garner that amount of money you're going to be sucking the cocks of donors for special treatment when he takes over.

Why is it that you want that? Why do you enjoy seeing Hillary Clinton suck the dicks of donors that destroy our country? Is it some sick fetish for you?
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>>78084494
>>78084659

Europoors don't know how US politics work. He """""""""loaned"""""""" his campaign the money which will be paid back to him by the RNC and the poor dumb working class white people who write him checks that they can't afford to write.

You guys should go ahead and donate to him. Your entire life savings will go into his pocket as .1% of a one-time catering bill charged to Trump Catering. lolololol
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>>78085473
Still better than hernie
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>>78086322

She does do it, but just not in the more obvious ways. She gives thousands and thousands of dollars to her corporate friends. Trump has obvious, plain in sight, ties to his own corporation. Hillary has ties to hundreds of corporations that aren't as obvious unless you dig deeper which the MSM doesn't want to broadcast.
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>>78084935
>He said he was going to self fund campaign which was the biggest reason people supported him to win the primary.
43 million is his own money so good try retard.

the other 8 mil or so come from merchandise like hats.
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>>78084935
>He said he was going to self fund campaign which was the biggest reason people supported him to win the primary.

he did, he also said he would use RNC money after the primaries

do leftshits always bank on people being totally clueless or what
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>>78084935
>was the biggest reason people supported him

people supported him because he was on television for 10 years and he said a lot of sensational stuff
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>>78086252
lol in your leafcuck dreams
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>>78086701
Foreigners are not allowed to donate, you sanderist traitor.
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>>78086105

didn't you go to a seminar to learn to do this shit? did they teach you nothing? fucking bait titles is quickest way to lose credibility

I guess you can't ask for much when relying on undocumented volunteers
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>>78084170
Trump is the victim of a vicious media. The only way to defeat our opponents is to demonstrate our passion. I've already donated $150, and this latest attack has motivated me to sell my Pokemon card collection in order to make another donation. I'm so glad that I found that Charizard in a booster pack as a child. I never traded it because I knew its fire was destined to Make America Great Again far brighter than ever imagined.
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>>78086701
Kek, this post is saltier than the ocean
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>>78084170
How is any of this fraud?
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>>78086105
>it's nothing illegal
>we still want to create a secret Stasi-operated secret list to punish people we feel might have done wrong, of course

Liberals.
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>>78086717
What happened to bernie supporters anon?
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>>78084170
>murica
>funding criminals to become their president
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>>78084170

>Hilary is bought and paid for and owes 40 million to people You don't know.
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>>78086825
>>78086833

That's why its a "loan" right? He's going to use future donations which are usually hundreds of millions to pay himself back all while spending millions on his own businesses.

Trump is not below this. Like Trump university, why did he rip off a bunch of seniors for whats essentially chump change for a supposed multi-billionaire? Not sure what his motivation is here. Possibly hes just bored and doing it because he can.

But you've got to be dumb as fuck as this point to still support this con. After all the flip flops on his original promises and policies, and now this bullshit.
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>>78087468
Trump university?
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>>78086322
>what is the Clinton foundation
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UNDER BUDGET

AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

MAGA
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>>78087597
>That's why its a "loan" right?

what fucking loan
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I struggling to see the issue here, he's just insanely good with money.
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>>78087732

>90% of the clinton foundation goes towards charitable services (according to charitywatch)
>most of the Trump campaign's money goes towards Trump's businesses, his staffer's salaries, hats, and about 1% goes towards actually campaign advertising.

totally comparable
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>>78087468
>Bongistan
>funding Muslims to fuck their children
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>>78087775

Read the report
http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1079423/

It details 2mil in loans, trump so far has loaned his campaign more than $40mil, a large chunk of that paid to businesses he owns while it'll be paid back as well.

>>78088093

Lmao. Having 1/40th the resources of your opponent and using almost none of it on your actual campaign is being "insanely good," how delusional can you be?
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>>78088734
He barely spent anything and crushed 16 opponents, many with strong establishment backing.

If anyone is delusional, it's you for not seeing how incredible he's done given the cost discrepancy.
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>>78088393
Im not sure why this upsets you so much
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-BEST HOTEL IN THE WORLD
-MARBLE FLOOR
-AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
-UNDER BUDGET
-GONNA BE ON PENNSYLVANIA BLVD-WASHINGTON DC NO MATTER WHAT IN SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE MY NEW HOTEL OPENS THEN
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>>78088999

Actually its easy to beat 16 opponents if you're the outsider, the vote is split 16 ways. He only got ~40% of the popular vote before clinching.
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>>78087680
Not technically illegal.
Hillary has lied under oath and shit. She violated government electronic security laws. Her foundation was found to be a money laundering scheme.
She's been taking bribes for years.

Now tell me who the criminal is again?
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>>78089690

Nice conspiracy theories. The Trump campaign's financial disaster is clear as day in the report.
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>>78089605
its easy going against american business and political establishment?????????????????

are u a complete fucking retarded mongrel shithead?????

what prolly is very easy for you though is to be a complete and total fucking gaylord homosexual faggot.........
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>>78088393
It's for taxes you bint. You legally must pay fair market value for anything used during Campaigning to """avoid""" corruption by gaining favors from companies. Trump owns media and real estate, he legally has to pay full price for whatever he buys so he hosts events at his own places. This way the money goes back to himself so he's not tossing cash out the window over nothing.
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>>78089690
The email scandal is a gimmick, Colin Powell did exactly the same thing with private server.
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>>78084170
Are you saying the money he "borrowed" to himself that GOP has to repay is spent to advance his businesses?

So he's been running his campaign without a penny and MADE A FUCKIN PROFIT FROM IT?

Trump is a genius.
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>>78090481

Pretty much.
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>>78090429
and the regulations have since changed. ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
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>implying he had to spend any money on advertising
>implying the news media aren't a bunch of fucking rubes
>implying that any of this counts as fraud
>implying your tiny pinheaded partisan brain would care even if you did understand what fraud was
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>>78084170
>>78084935

Who gives a fuck? Cost of ownership on his is airplane is more than all the funds he received.
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>>78084659
>>78085241

Or maybe trump realized his primary strategy wasn't the best way to win the general.

dude has lots of issues, i don't like him, and i won't vote for him but you can't ever say that he isn't batting a 1000 for delegation to underlings.
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>>78087301
Dumb (and poor) redditors donated money they didn't have or couldn't afford, banking on him winning the election and making college free and forgiving student debt. Not sure what was real vs trolling, but it was funny.
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>>78084494
except he is keeping the costs low to make a profit. That's odd for someone who wants to be president and claiming he is a billionaire. If he really wanted the presidency why doesn't he beef up his campaign?
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>Trump is diverting his campaign funds to line his pockets.
>Continues to dupe sucker Trumptards into thinking his candidacy is anything but a blatant self-promotional stunt.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA Trumpfags will defend this.

>B-but he has to pay himself and move campaign money to his businesses! I-it's how he self-funds his campaign! M-MAGA!
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>>78086803
>need catering
>own a catering company
>pay your catering company to cater
>lose less money than you would have if you didn't
vs
>need campaign funds
>agree to sell weapons to saudis if they give your charity money
I don't really get what this is all about.
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>>78084170
>repling to shill threads
Don't do this /pol/. Sage if you must.

Trump is self funded, so doesn't raise cash to begin with. He uses his own resources for his campaign, but he is still required to bill himself for their use since it's part of a political campagin. It's a stupid system.
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>>78090481
THIS IS THE KIND OF THINKING WE NEED

AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

UNDER BUDGET

MARBLE FLOOR
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>>78091115
>beef up his campaign?

The nigger flies around in his own personal 757, wtf do you want?
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>>78091571

This is literally the trump drone equivalent of "DELETE THIS"
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>>78084170
Don't worry about the Trump campaign's finances, anon. Remember that he has friends in high places.
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Can not believe people ITT are actually this retarded, so I'm just going to assume this thread is infested by anti Trump shills
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>>78084792
He DID a wonderful job. But that job is no longer needed. Manafort is running the ship now. No one more experienced.
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>>78091115
Because he's a businessman. Do you want a guy who makes profit from his campaign or someone like Yeb or Shillary, who blows away $120 millions for nothing?
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>Campaign is pretty much broke.
>Won't approach donors to raise funds.
>Fired his campaign manager and doesn't have a large campaign staff.
>Lining his businesses with his raised campaign funds.
>Not attacking Hillary about the leak.
>Dropping in the polls daily.
>Hated by his own party.
It's painfully obvious to all but the most deluded Trumptards that this man is running a completely sham campaign aimed at purely self-promotion. He's likely angling to either force the GOP to oust him at the convention or will drop out at the convention citing that his own party doesn't support him. Either way, he comes out looking good and can fall back on the "Well I could have easily been president and been great but they didn't want me." card for more blatant self-promotion. How will you fags feel after you realize you've been played?
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>>78084170
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>78091860
do you want a real candidate or someone who will yell anything that people want to hear just so he can make money and promote his image?
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>>78091800
>dat cognitive dissonance

wow does the truth hurts delusional trump fags.

you got played. Give it up. Trump is a con. Its 100% apparent now.
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>>78091115
Throwing money at something doesn't make it instantly better.
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>>78092002
>do you want a real candidate
I can now see why the EU has been so successful at cucking Europe..
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>>78088393
>totally comparable
totally bullshit too. Suck 90% of my dick.
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> mfw trump is a libertarian and wants Johnson to win
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>>78092095
you must know a lot about the EU, how many threads did you read about it?
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>>78092002
He IS the real candidate. Everyone else is a puppet on payroll.
Shillary doesn't even care who gives the money - she sells gear to the Saudis, uranium to Putin, weapons to shady islamist organizations etc
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>>78084170
>>78084935
ahahahahahahahaha
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>>78092168
Everyone knows your country is an irrelevant nigger-infested dictature.
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>>78084170
companies have to charge campaigns fair market value for serves rendered, even if the companies are owned by the candidate.
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So many shills in this thread.
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>>78092445
>shills!
>DELETE THIS!

Just because people don't fall hard for Trump's con doesn't make them shills.
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>>78092134
No, fuck of Blackie, go back to bitch in the other thread.
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>>78092352
>germany
>calling others nigger-infested
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>>78092609
do you want to know how it's insanely obvious you're a shill?
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and it was all trumps money so how is that fraud?
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>>78092670
We are arab-infested and relevant.
You are just some backwater shithole with niggers and drugs people go to to fuck cheap hookers and shoot meth.

Come back when you're a democracy.
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>>78086322
What, self fund her campaign through loans to pay market value for stuff AND be able to declare her campaign money as losses should she not win? I am sure some anons would be talking about kikery and businessmaking, I am sure.

>>78092798
Same way he's racist: only if you do leftist gymnastics.
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>>78084170
You're knocking a candidate for having had to only spend less than a fifth of the opposing candidate for getting to the same point, but even faster and against for competition?
Wut.
Plus, it just goes to show how much shillary is selling out to outside interests.
How the fuck is this really a negative story?
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>>78086322
Campaign finance shenanigans were among the very first of the many Clinton scandals.
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>Trump uses his own businesses to help campagin
>election rules state he has to charge himself money
HURRR Y TRUMP USE OWN BUSINESSES AND PAY HIMSELF
>Trump doesn't use his own businesses to help campaign
>uses other companies
HURRR Y TRUMP NO USE HIS OWN BUSINESSES HE MUST NOT BE GUD BUSINESS MAN

you cant win with libshits.
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>>78092809
arabs are niggers, mehmet. also fuck off stop pretending you're a democracy. did you get to decide when Merkel single-handedly ruined Europe? You probably would have liked to. The only relevancy of germany is it's meme industry, god your nation is so boring and humourless, no wonder you need the arab enrichment so badly.
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>>78090219
>japan forever the bantz
>japan forever based
It's a goddamn tragedy we didnt just let you have your oil and then btfo out of europe and communism with germany.
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>>78093239
At least retards actually voted for Merkel.
Your vote, on the other hand means nothing.
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>>78093063
>Trump doesn't use his own businesses to help campaign
>uses other companies
>HURRR Y TRUMP NO USE HIS OWN BUSINESSES HE MUST NOT BE GUD BUSINESS MAN

things that never happened: the post
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>>78093285
To be fair, they did this by murdering fucking everything. That doesn't make for good neighbors.
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>>78092168
>you must know a lot about the EU
So, if a person learns how to be a doctor in Europe, does that differ to a person wanting to be a doctor in Australia? It's called researching. And according to my research over the past year, the EU has obviously got to go.

Wanting to be controlled by a bunch of faceless politicians that don't give one fuck about you, your history, your culture or anything else, except for money is a form of cuckoldry. Not only your country, but your entire continent is being fucked by these politicians.

Dutchman pls.
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>>78092874
>she
>selling hats in the free market
>fraud
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>>78093438
it would have been the line of attack if he did, genius
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>>78086322
It'd be a lot less fraudulent and outright treasonous than, say, sensitive information, using influence as SoD to leverage global influence to receive donations from places like Saudi "destroy the western world in Jihad" Arabia
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>>78093365
You're the one living in a country that has a mp saying voter fraude would be better than allowing AfD in the chancellery. And Merkel will be re-elected, german democracy must feel great
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but what are the alternatives?

this is how i know you're a shill
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>>78084170
Fuck off Shillary shill.
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>>78093839

Trump should pump his $300mil cash on hand into his account like he promised, then sell a couple buildings and golf courses for the other $billion. He would do this if he was actually in it to win and make America great again instead of trying to turn a profit.
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>>78093515
Fuck off, your ''research'' lmao. you know literally nothing about the EU nor do you know anything about Europe.
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>>78093445
>little ass island off the coast of China
>seizes the orient and goes toe to toe with russia
>if not for U.S. intervention would have taken a large chunk of Asia as colonies and territories

I don't know man, it's almost like that's how imperialism works, much the same as it did when spain came to central and south america, when Britain did the same across the world, etc etc.
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>>78093634
>it would have been if he did

trump university intellectual/strategist detected
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>>78094079
Why would anyone expect a private citizen to actually give up a billion dollars to run for public office and then condemn him for not doing so?
How much crack are you leftists doing?
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>>78093063
Bush jr used to bill the White House for the times he took foreign dignitaries to his Texas ranch and no one bitch about it.
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>>78091040
>Or maybe trump realized his primary strategy wasn't the best way to win the general.
It definitely isn't. The general is all about turnout and getting a ground game going in the swing states. The ground game and strategy was absolutely pathetic in the primary
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>>78094133
There was a clear distinction in the slaughters involved, though. Even the Spaniards weren't as batshit crazy with murder, and they didn't consider Indians people until priest started to come in to try to make them stop.
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>>78094259

Because hes running for the highest public office? And his original appeal was that he was a billionaire who would self fund his campaign.

People gave him the primary because he "couldn't be bought" then after winning he immediately begs for a $billion while only loaning his campaign $40 million which he planes to repay himself plus spend a huge chunk of it on his own businesses.
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>>78092002
A guy who will say and do anything to promote his own image is just as good or likely better than a "real president"

If he goes back on his word and his image changes to shit then it was all for nothing. He'd have an invested interest in keeping his image and people happy so his business can profit from it in the long haul. A "real president" might not even care about his or her image after presidency.
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>>78094510
Basically, this. Trump will never win the election with a greater turnout. It is always certain he won't win the popular vote, but increasing turnout by 5-10% should give him the electoral college victory.

>>78094618
>>78094618
How many times you are going to change your description of your allege fraud in a single thread?
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>>78093931
>fuck those labels
welcome to 2016, so much for critical thinking
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Alright, fuck it I'm voting Hillary. Trump can't even handle is own finances, how does he expect to run the government? At least with Hillary we get a seasoned politician who will maintain the status quo, which is clearly the safer option for our country. At this point, Trump cannot be trusted.
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>>78094554
I don't think the dead would recognize the distinction, I'll be completely honest.
The Japs didn't view the other asians as people, just like they don't view each other as people.
This is still pretty much the same.

>spaniards weren't as crazy with murder
Except they wiped out whole cities, and caused the utter collapse of what civilization there was.
Add to that the fact that there were a lot less natives than Chinese.
If you take death/capita instead of total count, you'd probably see something a lot closer.
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>>78095089

redditor detected
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>>78084170
>spent $6.2 million of his campaign money

So in other words, $6.2 million of his own money. What seems to be the problem?
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>>78086701
>poor dumb working class white people who write him checks that they can't afford to write
except this doesn't happen
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>>78095267
/pol/ has liberals too... I was going to vote Bernie, but since America isn't ready for the revolution it needs he isn't going to be the nominee. Since then, I have been considering Trump, but more and more he looks like a joke and a unserious meme candidate. As much as I loathe Hillary, I know she won't destroy the country like Trump will. Thinking a hot head like Trump will have the US military at his disposal doesn't sit well with me, sorry he just doesn't have the temperament to be president at this point.
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>>78084935
You're joking, right? Mitt Romney and Obama's campaign spending each totaled over a billion dollars last election cycle.

If you account for inflation, then you'd understand that Trump will have to raise over a billion just to keep up with Hillary. Promising people that you're self-funding, and then taking donations from people who are willingly giving your campaign money is not fraud. It is a bit of a white lie, just because Trump has pumped in a good deal of his own money into his campaign. However, it would be financial suicide for Trump to fund his campaign against Hillary. Funneling the donation money through your businesses and paying staffers with the money isn't illegal either. I'm sure a lot of his business assets are funneled through Maralago for tax purposes, which you can do.
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>>78095525

i don't think campaigning would change anyone's minds anyways, and Trump is aware of that

Trump's chief campaign staffer is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Trump is expecting a few spectacular ISIS attacks in Europe during October to win the election
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>>78095089
Haha classic copypasta m80
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>>78086105
>Maybe not legally yeah, but you've got to be fucking retard not to see right through him at this point.

Christ almighty. He himself said this was how it worked last fall. You think you fucking shills would get mother fucking talking points that didn't make you look like absolute retarded niggers.

>hurr durr Trump is doing exactly what he said he's doing you guys should hate him now
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Don't expect libcucks to know anything about personal finance anon
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>>78094863
critical thinking?? KEK. anon, this is the same /pol/ that hates jews yet supports zionist candidates for US president.
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>>78093931
I miss the days when Ben's work required editing to be spot on.
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>>78084935
>He said he was going to self fund campaign which was the biggest reason people supported him to win the primary.

He stated he was self funding through the primaries. He said nothing about things after that.
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>>78084170
Hillary got most of her money from arab countries.
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>>78095706
That's it
#I'mWithHer now

Nobody that thinks Bernie's fiscal plans were viable should be allowed to vote, much less reproduce.
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>>78084935
HE PAID HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF NOT HIS CAMPAIGN HURRRR
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>>78094240
>what is a hypothetical

jesus christ kys
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>>78084935
>http://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00580100/1079423/

3% of the total budget for the Lone Ranger movie flop is trumps campaign total.

Trump 2016, he cannot, be, stopped!
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>he spent hardly any money so far
>he has tons of money personally if he needs it
>but his campaign fund account specifically doesn't have a ton of money in it right now so he'll lose

also

>but we need to get money out of politics
>but Trump is bad because he has so much money
>but also bad because he runs his campaign without spending lots of money and because he can't get lots of bribe money for his campaign so he's stupid

IT's almost like you people have some kind of agenda where you won't give him a break no matter what he does.
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