Whenever I see it brought up, inevitably I see someone greentext something like
>believes in moon landing hoax
So where is the evidence? Why don't you believe it happened?
Pic related is the tether from sts-75
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFBUS0kiSA
>>78048847
What's more plausible:
The US government (as competent as we all know them to be) managed to bribe and keep 1,000's of employees silent on the hoax for 50 years +, all during the cold war when Russia would've been more than happy to expose the hoax (we all know they had infiltrated the gov't) yet for some reason chose not to...
OR
We landed on the moon.
>>78048847
Evidence of what? The moon landings happened. Any piece of evidence anyone claims proves otherwise is easily disprovable.
That video says those "UFO's" were ice particles. Not that anything floating near the space shuttle could be considered to be "flying".
The moon landings happened you tinfoil hat fucks.
>>78048847
Lunar retro reflectors. Only argument we will ever need.
>>78049332
>>78049332
Could you please explain?
>>78049158
Ever heard of the Manhattan Project?
>>78049285
Plz gib evidence of some sort.
NASA has probably the worst managed archives ever. They lost the original footages of the Moon landing and they forgot how they passed the Van Allen belt
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/van-allen-probes-spot-impenetrable-barrier-in-space/
Moonfags, answer me this:
If NASA fakes their greatest accomplishments,
how come we haven't had another one?
>>78049332
There are 2 soviets retro reflectors on the Moon
Did the soviets go to the Moon twice?
>>78049591
The apollo crew left some retroreflectors to allow a more precise measure of the distance to the moon.
The retroreflector works by shining a laser into them from the earth, then you measure the delay between the sent beam and the recieved refection.
>>78049944
Da joos aren't putting the money again, it turned out that the moon wasn't full of shekels.
>>78049896
oooh, alpha particles, fucking scary bro
> confirmed for being an EM physics lightweight
> impenetrable barrier in space
> impenetrable barrier [to electrons] in space
pls, pls, france, stop
>>78050024
Yep.
Both of their landers are equipped with retroreflectors
>>78050080
How do you know they didn't put it there with probes/satellites?
>>78049896
I've heard a lot about the Van Allen belt. Apparently a human cannot go outside of it without being bombarded by radiation from the sun and other sources. I eagerly await a rebuttal of this.
Why wouldn't the soviets have told everyone to embarrass us? That's the only reason I can't believe it was faked
If landings were faked USSR would have had every reason in the world to expose it
>>78050691
The same guy that discovered the Van Allen belts also states that they are safe to pass through
Why do we believe him when he says they exist, but we don't believe him when he says they can be travelled through?
>>78050778
>>78050809
If soviets intended to expose American lies, they would have a long list indeed, and quite a lot of work to do.
>>78050986
Reliable source? I don't have a strong conviction either way. To be honest, I'm getting to the Bezmenov state of only half-believing news and recent history, if at all. The hoax-a-cost, for example.
>>78048847
whats up with that van allen belt though
>>78048847
MODS
>>78049591
the russians had people in the manhatten project. How do you think a war torn country could produce a nuke in 4 years?
>>78050809
unless when the US and USSR were flying up there, they both found out something big
>>78051525
Nazi base on the moon?
>>78048847
The argument against the moon landing is that Stanley Kubrick helped NASA fake it to fuck with Russia and that we actually couldn't get to the moon because we couldn't figure out how to get past the Van Allen belts.
Who the fuck knows. I went to a Naval museum recently and they had an Apollo Lunar Module there and a bunch of prototype spacesuits and official space suits and just from dumb intuition the module and the suits look pretty fucking flimsy. I wouldn't trust putting one of those on if I was getting shot into space
>>78051478
Idk, Hans. My only point was that the government can keep a secret when it wants to. Just look at the Denver National Airport.
>>78051433
If you don't like this, then you can fuck off to a "how can whites compete" thread.
>>78051231
everything ive seen says the van allen belt would require heavy ass lead shielding to get ppl through. even discovery channel in the past year
>>78051612
an impenetrable barrier, id say
>>78050691
The radiation is largely alpha-particles (He nuclei) and free protons, and beta-particles (electrons) travelling at high speed. The inner Van Allen belt is the dangerous one, because it's mostly alpha-particles. The wider, larger outer Van Allen is all beta-particles.
Alpha particles are a problem because they turn almost anything into swiss cheese. However, even early radioactive physics experimentalists beat this challenge by putting unstable isotopes (which also leak alpha-particles) in a lead cube with a hole drilled in it. This way, a directional beam of radiation was produced rather than irradiating everyone in the lab.
Anyway, the Apollo craft and others only spent barely a few minutes crossing the inner belt, and the great majority of the high energy protons and nuclei were blocked. Of course, the astronauts were exposed to high levels of radiation, but not that high. You couldn't spend several weeks floating there. The rest of the Allen belt is a cakewalk, electrons aint shit.
>>78051819
>even discovery channel in the past year
a true bastion of the scientific community.
>>78051702
Everybody knows Stanley Kubrick helped fake the moon landing, but it ended up becoming incredibly expensive, because he had them shoot the entire film on location
>>78051525
>>78051612
I was hoping China would spill the beans when they landed a rover on the moon.
>>78048847
The moonlanding is proven to be fake. Stanley Kubrick filmed and directed it. He puts thousands of references to it in his film. Unfortunately when he filmed it he went way overbudget all because his OCD forced them to film on location. Don't fall for the lies, OP. It was faked.
>>78052018
You've got a future in this town kid
>>78051991
just think anon why tell the goyim this?
>>78052124
TOUCH THE COW
DO IT NOW
Greatest ally did go to the moon
The conspiracy is that they stopped because the ayyliums told them to
>>78051231
I dont have time to dig through the data right now, but suffice to say there is an entire network of global sensor stations called the solar particle alert network, tasked with keeping an eye on both solar activity, and radiation levels in the van allen belt. The network was established for the apollo program, and is in use today.
Also, people need to learn how radiation works
>>78048847
we actually did go to the moon, the whole 'moon conspiracy' is a fucking intel op to keep people from delving into the real conspiracy regarding why we suddenly stopped going back abruptly and never returned.
>>78048847
If anyone tells you it's fake, call them a retard.
then link them this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment
100% proof we landed on the moon.
>>78050691
>I've heard a lot about the dragon belt. Apparently a human cannot go outside of it without being eaten by dragons from the underworld and other sources. I eagerly await a rebuttal of this.
>>78052370
you are only half right senpai. the 'moon landing conspiracy' is only so inflated as to keep you from the real truth. that the moon is impossible to reach at all ever
>>78052124
>>78052018
Hardy har.
>>78052469
>>78052391
>>78052353
Question everything, amirite? Fake or real, greater hoaxes have been perpetrated against the masses. It isn't unreasonable at all to wonder at the veracity of the official story.
>>78052892
but you can't question something that is undenyable proof
>>78052391
>>78052892
Hey, questioning is how you learn. Keep doing that shit. But in this case, the straws the conspiracy theorists like to grasp at were taken away a long time ago.
>>78053153
Yeah, like I said, I was just wondering what those straws were... apparently the Van Allen radiation belt.
>>78053041
the moon itself could be reflective. plus everyone keeps shooting the same spit like good goyim so its just confirmation bias
>>78048847
i believe that the Burgers managed to get on the moon, but the whole "moon landing video stick" is fake as fuck.
>>78053280
The van allen belts do exist, and they are a danger to consider. But they arent the impenetrable barrier to human life that people aeem to think they are.
Remember, at this point we had been messing with nuclear weapons for almost 30 years. We had a decent understanding of how radiation works back then
>>78053489
lol you're delusional.
>>78053153
>>78053041
>>78052469
>>78052391
It's redpill time!
the reason for the lunar landing controversy is this: we are not where we think we are in space. when they tried to go up there they were met with a resistance. they had to keep pushing their version of science on us because it keeps control over the goyim masses. the earth is flat bitches.
>>78053771
you believe burgers landed on the moon... but they faked the landing video?.... the fuck?
>>78053489
Nigga please, there are a total of 6 reflectors up there. Same spot my ass
suck it deniers
>>78054020
If serious, fuck off.
>>78054020
Ok, so we calculate our ejection burns based on a spheroid gravitational body, and then once we launch someone replaces our code? Neat
>>78054355
>Lets call everyone a goy that'll prove my point xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>78048847
The chances of the man landing in the moon and coming back are 0,000001%.
>>78050523
What were the names of the russians who went to the moon?
>>78054528
I'm just showing where the nautical mile comes from, it is the length of an ARC intercepted by a 1/60 degree angle travelling from the earth's center to the surface. An arc is a curved surface.
Flat earth seems like a pretty ridiculous thing to even consider at this point. There are far more plausible conspiracies, just look at pearl harbor or 9/11. Anything but flat earth.
>>78054536
Plz explain.
>>78051231
Who are these people bullying the barrack?
Why specifically
>>78054536
Cool number bro. Where'd you get it?
>>78054693
The russians used a simpler method of placing the reflectors. Theres are on top of unmanned probes. They have yet to set foot on the moon, but they have increased interest in a manned russian moon landing, as does china.
>>78051702
the moon mission were real, but the actual event involved an ayylien liason, sine the moon is a guarded facility owned by the 'tall whites' (also sometimes referred to as an 'orion grey').
If you kids havent noticed, the dark side of the moon is never visible, and the moon corrects its tidal wobble opposing from earth while rotating congruently and maintaining the same position while the van allan belt waves in and away from earth a few thousand miles, al while consistently creating (predictable) eclipse patterns.
>>78054536
Please provide a breakdown for that percentage.
If the moon landing were fake we would know it.
Russia would have disproved it by now because think how much they had to gain by showing it was fake.
You guys can talk your bullshit physics and science you know nothing abut but this is the best point of argument.
>>78050778
>>78050809
Space race served the narrative of both sides
>>78054987
They'll probably never land there. China might.
Burgerland will probably land again before either of those two using a couple of falcon heavy's.
>>78055000
>checked
>dark side of the moon always faces away
I know! When the Saturn V vehicle crashed into the moon (as planned) astrogeologists reported that the moon rang like a bell for several hours. Additionally, many astronomers throughout history have reported seeing orbs of light floating across its surface. The moon is full of mysteries.
>>78054958
Idk, just thought it was funny.
>>78055532
>many astronomers throughout history have reported seeing orbs of light floating across its surface.
the fuck?
>>78054355
if you are looking for proof, some people say the pendulum thing would have been impossible to fake on earth, whether by slowing down the film or any other way. to believe it though, you have to understand physics or at least believe the equations, and anyone who doubts the moon landing probably fails that criteria.
anyway if you care, google apollo pendulum. there are youtube videos and text sites. it was something that was not planned; some kind of strap swung back and forth for a while.
>>78054536
What a coincidence, that is also the probability of a brazilian poster being white.
>>78054355
my bro, NO ONE calculates 'muh curve' in their equations. not navy, airforce, surveyors, missile experts, NO ONE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
>>78055034
Russia and USA are allied with every other country that matters on this one. the antarctica treaty and the space treaty have the same signatures. fancy that
>>78056484
Nautical miles were just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are many ways to show that the earth is not flat.
>>78054355
>muh curvature that Ive never seen with my own two eyes before
>>78056785
Do you know who signed them?
>>78056484
>my bro, NO ONE calculates 'muh curve' in their equations. not navy, airforce, surveyors, missile experts, NO ONE
U fukkin wot m8?
>>78055759
Old UFO sightings are best UFO sightings.
A very, very small example:
http://fkbureau.homestead.com/astro-list.htm
>>78056881
If you could prove to me somehow (like with shadows and trigonometry, for instance) that the earth was flat, I would be all ears, but so far no argument is forthcoming.
>>78054315
Holy shit, a /pol/ thread where I agree with 90% of posters
What the fuck is this
>>78050809
>being unaware that the "moon landing hoax" conspiracy theory was KGB propaganda in the first place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures
>>78056811
i can show you one more way to show the earth is flat if youd like.
80ft lighthouses, used for many hundreds of years, have been seen from more than. 40 miles away.
to calculate the curve, my friend, enter 8 inches X the miles number X the mile number again.
so 8X40X40 =1066 feet ofcurve. a thousand foot hill it should be behind and never is
>>78057269
>>78057553
>>78057435
Then why can't I look over the pacific and see Japan?
>>78057435
What was the elevation of the person claiming to have seen those towers? From my time in the Navy as a radar tech I love making you tards make asses of yourself.
>>78057665
>>78057026
" we account for the curve" and "we account for rotation" are LITERALLY bad memes. they never do. they just say they do to the public so their dicks look bigger
>>78057553
Wow so they touched up the photos to make them look better? neva been done befo!
>>78057882
>>78057872
sea level m80
>>78057729
air density
>>78057553
WUT IZ JAY PEG CUMPRESHUN??
>>78057872
You were a radar tech? Any strange stories to tell?
>>78057553
>>78057665
>>78057882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbvxlvSIIww
>why is size so fucked in this round mirror of a photo taken with a warped lens in space where light is warped
?????????
>>78057665
>>78057553
kek, conspiratards will believe anything on a JPG won't they?
>>78057890
>i know nothing about flightplanning
Even a Private Pilot Ground School student could tell you you're retarded
>>78058192
Homestar runner?
What are you? An autistic 12-year-old from 2003?
![Radar-height[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/BrzpOJx.png "Radar-height[1].png")
>>78058138
Not really. :)
>>78058298
lol.
>>78058298
How do you know that? Was this shot with a 200mm lens inside the spacecraft? Probably not
>>78058512
No, I'm a normal 12 year old from 2003.
Sorry that you didn't enjoy true art from the early age of the web.
That's what we called it back then.
The web.
>>78058342
not an argument. Could you maybe provide some substance?
>>78055216
America will never go back to the moon. NASA is already on an asstight budget they won't waste anymore time on the cheese in the sky. Next time we do a manned mission it will be to mars.
>>78057553
Why would you expect the sky to be pure black? There's many many reasons it wouldn't be. One simply being the nature of the film transfer.
>>78057665
What is this? Is it being implied it would be impossible for NASA to take a low angle photo?
I guess i dont need to bother reading the rest.
>>78057872
i love how this tripfag tries to fight me and then does nothing but post shit
hes got nothing
>>78058905
I will be a lot cheaper to land on the moon than mars. could be used to test martian mission equipment.
>>78058905
Wew, I hope you're right. The way nasa wants to do it sounds expensive as fuck. Apparently they want to build a launch station on the moon itself before actually flying to mars.
>>78058745
Sure. Go take a ground school course. When you finish the dead reckoning portion, get back to me.
![saab-2000-airborne-early-warning-and-control-aircraft-erieye-aewc-awacs-pakistan-air-force-paf-jf-17-thunder-f-16-fighter-jet-fc20-j10-radar-coverage-340-1000-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/S6ppM3T.jpg "saab-2000-airborne-early-warning-and-control-aircraft-erieye-aewc-awacs-pakistan-air-force-paf-jf-17-thunder-f-16-fighter-jet-fc20-j10-radar-coverage-340-1000-1[1].jpg")
>>78059400
Op did u watch that fucking retarded documentary on Netflix?
>>78058061
If the air is too dense to permit light to pass through, then how are planets like mars visible with a naked eye?
>>78059636
not an argument m80. give me something fo work with. stop implying so hard youll hurt yourself
>>78059683
No, just wondering if there were any good arguments against the moon landing floating around out there.
>>78051967
Alpha particles cannot penetrate skin, in fact they can be reflected/absorbed by a sheet of paper, beta particles can be reflected by aluminium, the real issue is Gamma Radiation which requires lead proofing to absorb it due to Leads pure density.
The idea that we could not go to the moon because of the van allen belt is laughable, downright retarded. The real problem that NASA faced was that it could interfere or even shut down equipment that passed through it.
Thank you for making it easy television casualties.
>>78060145
What error?
>>78060145
Sauce?
"The Moon landing was faked" is a conspiracy theory spread by ((them))
note how they almost always credit Stanley Kubrick as being the mastermind that faked the footage, and also exposed it as being faked.
It's just a little over a year ago here that some shills were exposed spreading faked moon landing conspiracies along with the micro nukes did 9/11 and Judy Woods BS. Really makes you think.
>>78059968
Then at least google that shit, learn about flight planning and sectionals.
I'm not a CFI, and if i was, youd be paying me by the hour to explain it to you
>moon landing was a hoax guise
>>78048847
A very wise man once told me to look into the possibility that we went to the moon and back, manned, all those years ago, on the computer power of way less than the most basic Atari, but haven't been able to replicate that feat in almost 50 years now. No other country on the planet is even interested. NASA's got the lockdown on all that.
Oh, but they lost the original tapes. So sorry, no more original video or audio, that they broadcasted live in real time from the moon in 1969.
2016? Impossible! Heck, NASA needs to hitch a ride to the space station 400km away, but made a half million mile round trip several times way back in 1969.
What's not to believe?
JFL blown away, what else do I have to say?
https://youtu.be/1hKSYgOGtos
>>78058061
>air density.
I would have believed you for a second if you had said temperature but there you go. You just debunked yourself.
>>78060703
>but haven't been able to replicate that feat in almost 50 years now
because there's literally no reason to send another manned mission
we could, but it'd be fucking expensive and not really worth the investment unless we set up a permanent base there.
>>78060703
>but haven't been able to replicate that feat in almost 50 years now
stopped reading right there. literally the worst argument.
>>78060275
I'm guessing when the guy walks by, it creates a draft and moves the flag
>>78060068
That's what I was saying to Anon. People who bring up the Allen belt have no understanding of EM.
>>78049158
Thousands of people who were working on very narrowly focused components of a larger whole without a greater understanding of the entire process.
This isn't an endorsement of the moon landing being a fraud, It's just saying that thousands of people being involved doesn't mean thousands of people were in the know.
>>78060363
Never A Straight Answer. All landings were staged under DOE funding. NASA was basically a bunch of drunks collecting fat paychecks following telemetry data fed in from an external source. It was actually quite easy.
>>78060703
>hurr, they couldnt have done it because math is hard and i dont understand engineering
>>78060703
>but haven't been able to replicate that feat in almost 50 years now.
we have been able. No one is interested though. The apollo missions were many things, but economic was not one of them.
>NASA needs to hitch a ride to the space station 400km away, but made a half million mile round trip several times way back in 1969.
What's a "hitch"? They use rockets like everyone else. The saturn-V was a bigger rocket than anything we make today. Do you think that didn't exist either?
>>78061048
Or the flag is just swinging like a pendulum due to the lack of atmosphere.
>>78060703
Yeah, I keep hearing the original tapes were lost. If true, it raises a huge red flag. And again, the video of the lunar take off begs the question: who filmed that?
>>78060501
>shills exposed
Got a screencap or anything?
I'd love to know where all that NASA money went.
Even with the bullshit space program so suck down money, Burgers are still 20 Trillion in debt.
World superpower, back to back world war champs, and even been to the moon. That powerful!
20 Trillion in debt, with a roaring deficit.
Anyone smell bullshit?
https://youtu.be/CgoORq0AC_8
>>78060703
>didn't believe it the first 6 times
>y don't thy just go back then?! then I'll believe it!!! xD
I'm not a moon landing denier, but this post got me looking around >>78060145
What is the explanation for the flag moving after the astronaut walked by at 2:30???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
>>78061461
It's not though. The flag is still, but starts moving when he walks by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
>>78061464
Look at the speed of the lunar. How much time would it take to go back to earth at this speed?
>>78061461
Only turtles and tardigrades will ever escape LEO and survive. Sorry lunatard. We count on people like you though so....aye that'll do fine.
>>78061464
>who filmed that?
>"Mission control, we're leaving in 30 seconds so send the 'pan camera up' control code to the camera right nnnNOOOWW"
>timed perfectly but still lags a bit
i guess
>>78057269
the only fake in this thread is this picture. the sky is actually uniformly black, no outline, no fakery.
>>78060849
anon... everyone knows fog is hard to see through. air is no diffrent with more of it. what are you doing?
>>78060927
Right! We did it several times in a few years no problem almost 50 years ago, but it's way too expensive to try it today. Why, it would be ridiculous!
We have outer space all figured out and never have to go there again. The end.
Makes perfect sense when you think about it. Space exploration and discovering new worlds is just too expensive these days.
Hey man, c'mon. Let's be practical.
Discovering new worlds is no longer practical. We did outer space in the late 60s to early 70s, so that's all done.
Zimbabwe!
>>78058298
nope
>>78060703
That gif says it all really. If you think that is real you are huffing paint.
>>78062168
You're an utter moron.
>>78062168
What do you think they're trying to do with Mars you fucking halfwit?
>>78061719
Looks like he brushed it a little.
Even still i don't see how it would swing that long in an earth atmosphere.
>>78062168
robotic missions are safer and more cost effective, and have much longer endurance than manned
also, back in the 60's and 70's we didn't have really good rover tech, since they require actual computers to run properly
>>78061464
>I keep hearing the original tapes were lost. If true, it raises a huge red flag.
Magnetic tapes used in the computers of the day decay easily and are generally shit, I don't know the science completely but I do know that the tapes use a microscopic layer of Iron Oxide that is manipulated magnetically by the tape head. They are of the same quality used in Music recording. For example when the companies that made games like Rock band and Guitar hero went to go and find the multitrack tapes of the original recordings of many of the songs, they found that they had completely decayed and become unusable.
>And again, the video of the lunar take off begs the question: who filmed that?
The Lunar Rover had a camera mounted on it. This is common knowledge.
Why are you so eager to believe that it didn't happen?
We used air knifes and electrostatically manipulated faux regolith to get it close on set then tweaked it all in post using bucket brigades of disk recorders. It worked brilliantly because 99% of people are gullible fools.
>>78060506
No, you're just wrong,
>>78061946
>air density is the same as fog
Lmao stop posting
>>78062468
and YOU are a low-effort tripcoding faggot
>>78062168
>We did it several times in a few years no problem almost 50 years ago, but it's way too expensive to try it today. Why, it would be ridiculous!
Why would it be any cheaper today?
>>78049285
Yes goy, I mean friend, we did go the moon. Oy vey what an accomplishment, no?
>>78061946
>air is hard to see through
sigh....burger education
>>78062168
>but it's way too expensive to try it today
yes, you seem to understand.
It would be cheaper to do today than in the 60's, but there's no demand for it. They only did it in the 60's because of the cold war.
This is why NASA's budget is a minute fraction of what it was in the Apollo days.
>>78048847
>Whenever I see it brought up, inevitably I see someone greentext something like
>believes in moon landing hoax
I fucking knew this would happen, you /x/ cunts. You shitpost about this long enough and eventually someone starts to believe your nonsense just because you don't stop.
>>78062647
> originals lost because of shite quality
And yet we now have digitally converted footage of the first video ever taken in 1888.
>why so eager to believe?
I don't have a firm conviction either way, I'm just interested in hearing any arguments against it.
>>78062647
They didn't say the original records were unusable. They said they lost them
>>78048847
You know if you have a relatively powerful telescope you can literally seen the fucking landers
>>78063098
When did I say I believed? I just want to hear what landing-hoax people have to say.
>>78063244
Even if true, it doesn't mean people went to the moon.
>>78062730
>is disputing a claim
>is given an example of how hes wrong
>n..no y...y..you
I dont have to defend the methods aviators have used for decades, if you dont want to learn how it works, so be it
The set was based up on a 381mm thick concrete foundation which was circular with a diameter of approx. 238 meters.
I bet this has been mentioned in this thread already, but would it be possible to use a high powered telescope to see the landing site with the flag and everything?
Must not be possible if it hasn't been done yet...
>>78063470
last i heard there is no telescope that can resolve enough detail to see an apollo descent stage on the moon. Any recent pics we have are from probes.
>>78062468
Tell you what, let's debate!
You argue why we landed on the moon, played golf, and everything else the Apollo missions accomplished, and I will take the counterpoint.
Let's see who wins on facts.
May the odds ever be in your favor!
https://youtu.be/XxKj_M6q4N8
>>78063004
>>78062754
miles of air, YES, will act the same as dense fog.
>>78063463
but you're wrong.
>>78061464
The tapes with the original footage were re-used and recorded over. If that doesn't tell you it was a real government operation then I don't know what will, no fakery would ever make a mistake that enormous.
>>78063739
Even still, the only pictures of it we can really get are the elongated shadows the lander casts
>>78049944
Because it was all really about "BEATING THOSE GODLESS COMMIES" and dick-waving. The Moon Landing was just another battle in the Cold War.
Are there any precious metals beneath the moon surface?
>>78064015
You keep using that word.
Prove it, i'll wait. Prove my flights from SEA to ANC dont account for the curvature of earth
You fags will be saying the same thing when we get live footage from the colony in mars. The moon landing happened and even if if didn't why does it matter? What does it prove? That the guvmint's been lying to us? Tell me something I don't know. I bet that even if they took you to the moon landing site in person you all would still deny it.
>>78064362
probably
>>78064019
I'm not sure if I understand you. Are you saying
>original tapes were recorded over
>only a legitimate operation would make such a huge mistake
>therefore, the moon landing was real
?
>>78064487
If such footage existed within our lifetimes, I would jump for joy. Even if fake, at least they cared enough to humor us.
>>78063446
You can even see the footprints.
You think they sent up some fucking robot with shoes to fake that too?
>>78064810
Here is a footprint on mars. Easy enough to contrive.
All in travel earthshots were actually staged in LEO using a porthole as the part is indicative of the whole visually.
>>78062469
Only 7 dollars an American! Cheaper than a movie! That's how cheap is was to land a rover on Mars!
That was their selling point when they successfully landed the first Mars rover. The Pathfinder?
Landing the Pathfinder on Mars for all those wonderful discoveries cost less than 7 dollars an American.
What a great deal!
NASA, you so crazy. 50 years ago you could make a half a million mile round trip no sweat.
Nowadays, you need to hitch a ride to the space station, 400 kilometers away. Nasa can't get to the Space Station on their own. It's 2016!
Isn't that fantastic?
>>78064362
Water is by far the most precious mineral resource in space. Luckily, the Moon has an amount in shadowed craters at the poles.
>>78064990
You're a mouth drooling retard.
>>78065015
lol, what?
>>78065219
You sure showed me.
>>78065175
*Citation needed*
So how much water does the moon have? Gallons I bet.
>>78065453
You posted a photoshopped pic. Go buy a telescope and look at the landers and footprints for yourself you fucking moron.
>>78054536
The chances of a Brazilian landing in the moon and coming back are 0,000001%.
FTFY
>>78064990
confirmed troll.
Stop being baiting by this guy he's just laughing at you all.
>>78065826
We've sent monkeys to space before and they've been just fine
Dark side of the moon.
What's up with that?
>>78065491
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_water
>>78066005
great album
Moon landing deniers should be gassed along with all the other degenerates
>>78065175
Interesting, I always assumed the moon was just rock and stone never really thinking about what more could actually be there.
>>78066083
The Wall was better...Much Better....
Pink Floyd for life.
https://youtu.be/y7EpSirtf_E
Once fools have been made they fight violently against being unmade.Here the interior worklight and an astronot obstructing the earthshot staging are apparent.
>>78065787
>Sydney Observatory’s computer-controlled telescope with its 40-cm wide mirror can theoretically resolve objects 0.3 seconds of arc apart. In practice the view is blurred by the Earth’s atmosphere and the smallest angle that can be resolved is about one arc second. At the distance of the Moon this means that the smallest objects that we can see are 2 km across.
They must be very large footprints.
>>78066418
Directed by Stanley Kubrick.
>>78066360
welcome to the machine is best
>>78066423
not an argument
>>78066769
He's right. Earth telescopes can't resolve the landers. They are too small.
>>78061719
or maybe someone paused the video, then edited some bullshit shadow, then had the video actually play.
>>78051751
>Russian Allies helped keep it secret
as apposed to during the cold war you illiterate nigger
>>78052018
You cheeky bastard 2+ Internet's for you.
>>78050778
Because the Soviets were fakers too. The first man in space (Gregarin) was faked. They knew it. We knew it. So we don't talk about their fakery and they don't talk about ours.
>>78066769
How it isn't an argument? You said you can see the footprints with a telescope and he refuted it.
>>78050809
Nope. They didn't want to be exposed themselves. Besides, they were dependent on our generous wheat shipments to shut them up.
>>78066769
>moly-meming
I just provided proof that even a very powerful telescope can't see footprints on the moon. What more do you want?
>>78066769
Can't argue with that.
Cool thread!
And the moon landing was bullshit! I'd love to know where all that sweet NASA money is going and what is going to happen with funding when Trump becomes POTUS.
Interesting times ahead!
Here the LEO has just ended blackout condtions for the earthshot staging and Collins obstructs the porthole used as a forced perspective matte while the interior worklight above his right shoulder has been ramped to full power.
>>78048847
The reason the Soviets never called it out for being fake is because all the worlds governments know we can't leave this world
The Cold War was staged to prop up the upcoming NWO.
WW2 set up the groundwork for everything really
>>78051751
But it's not secrets anymore
>>78049896
Apollo used an inclined trajectory to go around most of the Van Allen belts.
The portions it did pass through were the weaker outer belts and they passed through them fast enough that they weren't a significant problem.
Also you have to remember that the astronauts had balls of steel and knew they were taking huge risks. It's not like it was ever safe enough to send commercial passengers.
>>78067652
So what exactly happens in Area 51?
60+ years, thousands and thousands of employees, and no loose lips.
Area 51? Never heard of it.
>>78068015
Skunkworks aircraft testing.
>>78067652
You don't think USA currently has secrets?
>>78057269
ha ha ha nice job leaf queering up a photograph that's been in existence for over 40 years
>>78049158
We all know they didn't McCarthy. How would they infiltrate the gov with thick Russian accents?
>>78068015
Its a paperpushing facility nowadays. The security detail and spoopy las vegas flights are done to keep you attention on the now defunct groom lake, and off of the 3 other facilities that are now used
>>78067642
The USSR was always antipode to any unimpeded exposure for every manned lunar staging. This was done as a precaution against any rogue scientific elements at a university and research centre level. Once deep space radar became a possibility all Apollo stagings were ceased and the regolith truck away and all front projection sets & optics were destroyed.
>>78050506
sure bud
>>78068015
Nothing ever happened there. It was used for testing and reverse engineering Soviet tech which originally the Israelis were useful for procuring. It would be shipped to NJ Staat Earle and then transported via train and truck to A51 for dissection.
>>78058298
leaf you don't have to be this hurt that we did it, I'm sure a chinaman will land on the moon someday and you can feel proud again
CRTs and the mind numbing garbage they would emit were the ultimate pacifiers.
>>78069126
Do you mean cathode ray tv's? What do you mean? There's certainly been some interesting opinions from Hong Kong and Taiwan today.
>>78068811
>>78069126
You probably won't say there is aliens there because you are Chinese and the aliens look normal to you. You might mistake them for family members LOL
>>78068811
Checked, and nothing ever happened there. Got it.
Area 51? What's that? Never heard of it.
>>78048847
It was probably real, why would they fake something as retarded as a moon landing?
>>78069562
yeah sure
>>78049158
>we all know they had infiltrated the gov't
More on this please, anon.
>had
And how are you sure it's not have?
>>78067093
This guy actually. Most of space program is fake. Some guys even say that any of space stuff is fake.
>>78051991
sure
>>78052018
everyone knows you are trolling.
>>78052124
sure
>>78048847
It would have been impossible to fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
>>78069808
Lol sure. The clean room at JPL is spending millions of dollars building vehicles that just get tricked to the scrap heap?
The the life support systems my uncle helped design for ISS, which you can see with the naked eye and talk to via ham radio, must have been for nothing.
>>78070370
thank you I was thinking of that
>>78070136
It's called a meme you dip.
Look at the autist that doesnt know about jokes
>>78070515
What frequency?
The then non-cabinet level DOE is where all the magique was concocted. Private security. NDAs. Black budgets. Pallets of fresh 100 US$ bills. The "door" in >>78058498
is actually one of the set lighting gangs.
>>78049158
You say the us government is competent in what seems to be a sarcastic way, meaning you dont think they are competent enough to write checks, but you think they are competent enough to get a man on the moon????
>>78070746
I dont remember, but the callsign is NA1SS
>>78070515
Sure buddy, sure. LOL
>>78070926
Just looked at website. Fucking awesome!
>>78068015
>So what exactly happens in Area 51?
Drone test flight squadrons are all that is housed there. Janet still makes flights to the area however we all go to different facilities instead of "area 51"
>>78068333
>The security detail and spoopy las vegas flights are done to keep you attention on the now defunct groom lake, and off of the 3 other facilities that are now used
Groom lake is still used to test experimental drones using exotic technologies and janet still flies there. However after landing the folks are split up and transported to other locations.
>>78070370
That ugly person is very dimwitted. We used bucket brigades of disk recorders and fed them gen locked footage in scene bursts. It was easier than using an Oxberry.
We can our outlandish dreams into your mind and make you believe that they are yours.
>>78070515
That's just other guy's opinion. I can't say what exactly is fake or not. For example i think that navstar cannot be fake, as satellites work in general.
>>78049158
They don't have to keep it secret, people have been saying we didn't land on it from day one. It doesn't necessarily convince people.
I don't really understand why people protect the government and officials , how many times have they fucking lied about everything, at this point, making up your own theory is probably a safer bet than studying anything about the moon landing because of the massive disinformation. My theory is that they did go to the moon, but the shit they found there was to much for humanity, so they had to fake all the footage and edit the crazy shit out.
