>>78030456
If she doesnt like our laws, then she can go back to her family's gook country.
>>78030456
>People tend to conveniently forget the "SHALL NOT BE INFINGED" part of the 2nd Amendment.
What does militia consist of? Oh yeah, civilians.
>A fucking Slant eyed cunt talking about another nations laws as if they were her own
How did we let it get to this? Fucking hell.
>>78031030
/thread
>>78030456
>>78030456
>>78030456
>ONE POST FROM THIS ID
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>ONE POST FROM THIS ID
Jesus fuck people are getting trolled hard these last few days.
>>78030456
seriously, how much of a moron you have to be to not understand the 2nd amendment?? i know that reading the founding fathers' arguments for it would be difficult for like 95% of the retards in the states but there is literally no excuse to be this much of a retard.. you can at least read the amendment and understand it. it's like a single sentence..
sometime i really wish a 50 mile asteroid hit the planet soon..
>>78030960
YOU LOOK RARE
>>78030456
I'm the heller Decision the court said that the right to bear arms is an individual right regardless of militia membership, aka get fucked
>>78030456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx23c84obwQ
>>78030960
hey cool running's,
how's that bobsleigh team going?
>>78031359
Is Jamaica rare? Are there not enough bobsledding threads?
"No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms within his own lands or tenements." Thomas Jefferson
While the Constitution of the United States was not signed by Jefferson, Jefferson is the one who certified the Bill of Rights which would, of course, include the 2nd Amendment.
>>78030456
Let's have the whole thing shall we?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
In context this meant the people who wrote it allowed anything the military could own was available to all citizens.
Obviously tech has changed, citizens should not have access to bombs and such. But, where do we draw the line? Killing potential per minute sounds logical.
So, no automatics. K then. Done, we banned everything that needs banning.
People? Like the US Supreme Court time and time again?
>>78030456
Fuck off retard.
Worst part about these dumb threads, no better than the kind forbidden by the sticky, don't get deleted and in fact you get warned for reporting them. Utter cancer. Just remember to sage and hide.
I thought Asians were smart.
Also, maybe yellow rats who were culled by Maoism shouldn't be talking shit about an amendment that defends them against government tyranny.
>>78032099
>Obviously tech has changed, citizens should not have access to bombs and such
yes we should.
The national government can regulate local/state militias?
>>78032099
To me it seems they crammed 2 amendments into 1.
First part tells that a free state must have a militia.
Second part tells that citizen's right to have weapons is their birthright.
>>78030456
Well regulated meant well maintained at the time
>>78032481
There's well over a billion of them, so not all of them will be smart.
libs think they can solve all their problems with smugness
uncock your brow, gook
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
>the right of the people
NOT "THE RIGHT OF THE MILITIA"
>>78032481
Fucking savage bruh
>>78032481
great pic
The second amendment is worded the worst out of all original 10. Go read the other first 9 and then look at #2.
>>78032587
Yes. State needs militia, so PEOPLES right to bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>78030456
>"Regulate" always means "restrict," and always has, without exception. Even in this document that is explicitly denying the government the ability to legislatively restrict something.
The right to bears arms and a well regulated militia are exclusive if one another, the 2nd ammendment gives a right to both.
>>78033106
It's worded just right. It's not authors fault, that today's reader is borderline imbecile when it comes to comprehension.
>>78030456
Sage goes in options everyone.
Stop replying to these gook threads
People conveniently forgot that, "right of the people to keep and bear arms"
And
>"shall not be infringed." Fucking chink cunt thinking she is an american and should have a say.
>>78030456
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I don't take advice on Constitutional law from laypeople. Ms. Lu is not a judge, an attorney, or a scholar. She writes fiction for young adults. Her opinion on Constitutional law is invalid, and it's quite arrogant of her to believe that she has any business commenting on such matters.
"A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of the day, the right of the People to keep and eat bacon shall not be infringed."
Does that mean that bacon must be banned or laws made to restrict it due to it not being "balanced" enough? No.
>>78030456
Westernized Chinks are almost worst than Jews. Ungrateful pieces of trash.
>>78031311
>ONE POST FROM THIS ID
>>78033598
But who really needs more than two strips of bacon in a meal?
All we're asking is that you not have access to those unhealthy high-capacity BLTs.
And you should be fine with strips of turkey bacon.
Low sodium turkey bacon.
Soy based bacon imitation.
Tofu.
>>78033630
How can you expect them to be grateful when, "thank you" isnt even an expression in ching chong land.
Im sure her immigrant chinese forebears who probably escaped Mao would be proud of her tweet here.
>>78031330
They are either doing mental gymnastics to not understand it because they hate guns or they damn well know what it means but don't care.
>>78033653
>ONE POST BY THIS ID
>>78034282
>ONE POST BY THIS ID
>Leftists in charge of knowing how the English language works
>>78032099
Atomics aren't covered by the 2nd anyway, nukes aren't really bombs so much as they are reactors which cannot stabilize or cool themselves and uranium isn't covered under the arms subsection.
It can be banned for the same reason napalm, dynamite and heroin can be.
The more you know.jpg
>tfw you will never travel back in time and punch michael moore in his gut cunt for making that crappy documentary.
I for one enjoy bait threads like this because it keeps /pol/ from being an echochamber. It also forces debate and discussion with a faux representation of the "average joe" according to media even if it's just other /pol/lacks pretending to be a smarmy liberal.
>>78030456
Heavily regulated automatic weapons, and destructive devices is well regulated enough.
>>78030960
Rare nigga. Witnessed. (Also based)
>>78031196
She's American...
>>78030456
>>78030456
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>>78034905
If the printing press wasn't invented when the first amendment came out, would technology take away our freedom of speech?
>>78030456
>no insight or content provided by OP
bait threads like this are clearly against the rules in the sticky, stop replying and report
>>78032481
BITCH BE
WESTERNIZED
>Absolutely degenerate
>>78034403
>T...TWO POSTS BY THIS ID
>>78030456
Same thread same response all day every day
>>78030456
This thread is almost as good the second time.
Thanks OP.
>>78035281
>Born: July 11, 1984 (age 31), Wuxi, China
>1 Post by this ID
STOP FALLING FOR THE BAIT
>>78035788
I'm sure you also saw that she is an american citizen and lives in america, right?
>>78030456
She has no clue what "well regulated" means
>>78035963
>Born: July 11, 1984 (age 31), Wuxi, China
>Wuxi, China
>China
Is China in America? I don't think so.
True citizenship is by birthright. Get off /pol/ if you don't agree.
>>78030960
I loved Cool Runnings.
>>78036255
U.S. Citizenship is not strictly by birthright, sorry. Never has been and never will be.
>>78036651
If a dog is born and lives in a stable, does that make it a horse?
>>78037001
I have no idea why you think this is clever or relevant.
>>78030456
Why do /pol/ tell me gooks aren't SJW's when they clearly are?
>>78033579
Yet Americans have business commenting on other nations matters
>>78030456
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>The right of the PEOPLE
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Why do people with such a poor grasp of the english language feel qualified to dictate the meaning of laws written in it?
>>78030960
Fuck rare flag!
>>78033225
>spot an uncommon
>try to save it
>already have it
Worst of feels
>>78030960
weed bro?
>>78030960
Wagwan rudebwoi
>>78038010
You need to be more precise. It's not simply commenting on "matters" of another nation. She's making a legal argument. As a layperson, she doesn't have the requisite skill or training to do so.
Law is complex - Constitutional law, doubly so. Why do you think lawyers are paid so much? It take a lot of time and training and ability to fully understand all of the contours of the Constitution, particularly in the context of our case law, jurisprudence, and academic analysis. This is no small feat.
Thus, some with no legal training - who writes teen fiction for a living - simply cannot make any meaningful contribution to the discussion of our Constitution.
>>78031030
Which is still conditional on the "well regulated" part, retard
>>78037403
Because that's one dumb bitch from California, not a whole people
>>78030456
Roof Korean is right. Call your superior officer militant now. If you don't have one - elect it. Only together you can stand up to commies and mudslimes.
>>78033630
Yee is the biggest piece of trash human on the planet besides that shriveled cunt Feinstein.
>>78034481
Actually it has been ruled that nukes are considered arms and are technically allowed under the second amendment (much like tanks,jets,etc) but it is a moot point since the possibility of a civilian getting hold of a nuke is impossible without stealing one which would be a crime and excuse to stop them.
>>78030960
Ayy
Jamaica Jamaica
Just ask what militia the founding fathers are talking about and if they say the National Guard mention that it came to existence in 1903
>>78030456
OP is a faggot trying to get author in trouble. Dont be this guys personal army.
She rarely gets political, its not like she posts "Kill All White Men" type stuff.
>>78030456
>Be a young man
>still am smart enough to realize that they meant "since a well equipped militia is necessary to ensure freedom, the people have a right to arm themselves and this right shall not be infringed"
>>78038971
They also seem to forget the WE THE PEOPLE
I can't see why you niggers cant understand that militia is a fucking army and police that they are talking about.
>>78030456
>The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. >Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>he right of the people to keep and bear Arms
>the people to keep and bear Arms
I will never understand why this is hard to wrap your minds around
>>78040912
this
The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:
1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."
>>78030456
KEK
/pol/ and /k/ BTFO
will they recover?
>>78038971
No, dummy. The Second Amendment does not say or mean that only a "well regulated militia" can have guns, it says that a "well regulated militia" is necessary, therefore people's right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Thus, "the people" have the right to own firearms. I know you liberal retard Canadians are scared of things like guns, but that doesn't mean you're correct or have any basis upon which to try to interpret our laws and values. Fuck off.
>>78030456
>2nd amendment clearly only meant muskets
>well regulated militia is clearly literal and doesn't refer to the people
>>78039144
But they will vote for Shillary to bring more of their people to the USA. Wake up you yellow fever cuck.
>>78030960
FPBP
>>78040638
>white knighting some gook skank
>>78030456
In this "1 post by this ID" copy pasta Jews conveniently ommit the fact that this bit is a reason justifying protection of this right as not infingable, not the sole purpose of owning arms and what they try to imply here is a fabricated argument with no basis in reality.
Therefore JIDF PLZ and SAGE
>>78030456
they must think that the 1st amendment only pertains to printing presses and Christianity
>>78031650
lel
JAMAICA WE HAV A BOBSLED TEEM
Ignoring all the other errors she's likely to have made, she should familiarize herself with U.S. Code 311.
Ok I honestly have no idea what the second amendment was actually writen and google gave me this.
>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Do people not understand how commas and grammar works? No wonder the US is 35 in education.
>>78030456
A well read electorate, being necessary for the literacy of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.
>a well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,-
>THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS,
>SHALL
>NOT
>BE
>INFRINGED
Gooks confirmed for illiterate, in addition to libshits
Disgusting plastic doll
>>78042077
Now who in their right mind would assume the second potion limits the first? Only the electorate is allowed books?
>>78040703
>militia is a fucking army and police
Militia is neither the army nor the police.
t. former commie country.
So here is a question: What does "well regulated" me?
shit like >>78037337 and other liberals keep making it seem like being well armed and having powerful weapons is not well regulated.
IS the context of well regulated more on to regulated as in having generals or someone in power controlling the militia or something completely different.
Sorry if I sound stupid, specially for questioning liberal logic but I'm completely missing the point of this line anti gunners keep memeing about.
>>78042616
>What does "well regulated" me
It means that at least one person in your neighbourhood block must have some sort of training, be it paramedic, rifleman, or civil security.
>>78040912
>It referred to the property of something being in proper working order.
>Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
That's it... time for people to have English lessons and grammar again.
>>78042616
>>78042703
Basically the second amendment is a safeguard of the country, for example in case a foreign entity usurps the government and takes over control of the military, so that the people can form their own government and defend themselves.
No "revolutionary" takeovers for the USA.
>>78030456
>1 post by this id
People tend to conveniently forget that the 2nd amendment says the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The proof is in the pudding - US citizens had the same gun of the military at the country's beginnings. By anti-gunner logic, America should have never survived longer than 5 years because of this. Guns are so dangerous, you can't give everyone a gun! But yet here we are.
The entire concept of the second amendment is that the police and military need guns in order to protect us, but what if they start to abuse their power and a rebellion is necessary? The goal was to give the common citizens a means of self-defense against a tyrannical government, so they may be overthrown. This is non-negotiable. This is what the second amendment is. There are no "other interpretations". You can have a different idea of how the laws regarding guns should work, but what the second amendment means is not open to debate.
The level of doublethink people do to try to get around this is just hilariously pathetic. It would be like if I said "2 + 2 = 4" and you were like "WELL YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT 2 + 2 'DIDN'T EQUAL' 5!" You guys aren't "witty". You're not really "deep" and "wise" in some sort of ironic way, like you think you are. Stating the opposite of the truth makes you a liar and an idiot, not some sort of wise guru that we should all listen to. You people all have incredibly low IQs. Those rednecks and hillbillies that you think are so stupid probably have 20-30 more IQ points than you do.
>>78030456
2nd Gen asian immigrants are no different from white libcucks
>>78042616
At the time well regulated meant in working order
>>78030456
I'm confused, this is clearly pro 2nd. She's replying to someone who states that no one needs a private arsenal by saying that a private arsenal is conducive to a well regulated militia.
>>78030456
>People tend to conveniently forget the "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" part of the 2nd amendment
I'm mostly disappointed OP is actually searching young adult book author twitters for b8
>>78030960
Rare
>>78040638
faggot lol chinks are the worst. they have zero respect for my race why should I give a shit about theirs
Need need for a "well regulated militia" was the reason for the "right to bear arms" rule. The rule has not changed, even if the reason has.
>>78030456
>Well Regulated
Meant "competent" in the 1700s and 1800s when this was written, retard. It did not mean government controlled.
>>78040703
>the people
>army and police only
Fuck off.
>>78040703
I think it's scary that people unironically believe that the second amendment is meant to protect the right of the government to bear arms, and not the people.
>>78035360
>Jefferson
>Co-authored the Constitution
What did liberals mean by this?
>>78030960
all you people calling Jamaica rare must realize it's probably a white dude from Pasadena on vacation.
>>78032099
The militia depends on individual ownership of arms, not the other way around.
>>78035411
Take it a step further and ask them if the 1st amendment should be changed since the internet wasn't even invented before the constitution. Such "toxic" ideas shouldn't be allowed to spread so freely without government oversight.
>>78030456
Dink hooker has an opinion…
>>78035281
>Lu
>American
Yeah okay
>>78030456
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
So a well-regulated firearm means it works, and is accurate.
>>78048656
Fucking Greg, he's always on vacation.
>>78031030
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>felons can't own guns
>universal open carry not allowed
>"gun free" areas
Something's mighty unconstitutional here.
People forget that EVERY CITIZEN is the militia and well regulated DOES NOT mean controlled by or even known to the government.
>one post by this ID
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>>78035360
>Statists and tyrants believe that modern technology should be denied to the peasant class.
FTFY
>>78048763
Unfortunately this is where we're really going. It's their excuse for surveillance today.
It's why I believe the Bill of Rights wasn't nearly emphatic enough. It should have guaranteed all its liberties absolutely and proactively into the future regardless of technological developments.
>>78030456
And she's forgetting the part where it says "the right of the people" and "shall not be infringed".
Well regulated doesn't mean it MUST be well regulated, it just means that if we want a well regulated militia (with regulated meaning trained, ordained, maintained, etc), then the people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed, because well regulated militias are necessary for a free state
>>78030960
RARE SINNI-MON NIGGER SPEAKS THE TRUTH
>>78030456
OK guys you heard her.
Time to get "well regulated"
>>78038971
Well regulated or otherwise. The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
This guarantees a personal right, not the right of a militia.
>>78030456
>ching chong ding dong, fuck off back to china
>>78049761
Correct on both counts.
Federal law establishes two categories of militias: the "organized" militias (the national guard and so forth), and the "unorganized" militia, which is composed of every civilian within a certain age range (something like 21 to 44 I think?). There is established case law that the 2nd amendment applies to both the organized militias and the unorganized militia.
The phrase "well regulated" was an idiom back in the 1700s that we don't use anymore. It meant "in good working order". For example, if a machine was is good working condition, it would have been called a "well regulated machine". It did not mean "fully controlled by government regulation", as many people today believe it does.
>>78050298
>not sure if proxy or Raul Castro
>>78032256
Actually the Supreme Court unanimously agreed that the clause was important, they just disagreed on what it meant. Anyway liberal court now (don't try to deny it; it's inevitable). Hope you enjoyed your individual gun rights while they lasted.
