The usual argument for god goes like this
> Everything which exists has a cause
> The universe exists, therefore it has a cause
> Therefore there must be a god.
Assuming for a moment that this pedantic argument is true, why does does there only have to be one god? How about two? Or ten? Why does there have to be only one?
>>77957740
because it is shirk
la ila il allah - there is no god but god
Popularity contest and because power is never truly divided equally
The greek Pantheon had Zeus at the helm, the Hindu one had Brahman, though Vishnu and Shiva were supposedly just as important
Eventually, all power has to coalesce into one ruling form
>>77957740
Then it becomes a question of who created the gods. There has to be a singular god who started it all
t. Atheist-agnostic
>>77958682
>There has to be a singular god who started it all
Simply begs the question
>>77958682
Why would a singular God be immune but a team of Gods are not?
What part is difficult to understand?
>>77958778
>>77958840
It's a consequence of applying cause and effect. If you keep going back further and further you'll reach a single point in space-time from which everything started.
I'd think cause and effect as we know it would break down well before that point so I don't think applying cause and effect is correct.
>>77958682
Why can't it be one God who manifests differently to different cultures?
>>77959058
>What part is difficult to understand?
The part about 1 = 2 or 1 = 3 for starters
>>77959152
Still begging the question.
If one god can be uncaused then so can another. So can the universe for that matter.
>>77959614
the universe isnt anything
how many rocks existed forever in space?
none because your own science says that it had a beginning at the big bang
get fked sir
religions are an extension of tribalism my friend.
back in the day of polytheism, people didn't worship all of the gods; worshipping a god back then was equivalent to following a unique religion today. They would worship one or two particular gods that had an impact or meaning in their lives and it would define how they lived their lives. The biggest major difference was that they believed (most) of the other gods existed, they just didn't do anything for them.
the most successful gods of the pantheons were individualistic tribal-specific gods like yahweh, who was the tribal god of the semites. Yehweh went from "our god", to "the best god", to "the only true god", to "the only god (period)" and systematically got rid of the rest of the gods in whatever regions they occupied.
take a look at india for a good idea of what classical roman/egyptian polytheistic religion was probably like.
>>77960190
I'm not questioning the belief. I'm questioning the syllogism.
>>77959325
Because that's not what the Bible says, you Tower of Babel-building bimbo.
>>77957740
Desert trilogy claims so, if you dont accept they will kill you.
>>77960051
>he universe isnt anything
OK. Enjoy your Solipsism.
>>77960190
and all that concoction you just made up is your theory and invention in your mind to try to wrap your head around something
you could just as easily state that god of the bible really is the only true god and the other pagans are idolaters cuz they dont like real god
>>77960635
no i mean like empty space isnt SOMETHING if you say that the universe always existed
ok how many rocks in space (planets) have eternally existed
thats your source of being thats your religion you believe you came from a rock
>>77959355
I know a trinity is difficult for you to understand. Do you know any basic programming? It's like having three objects in an array. This isn't hard.
var array = [{
God: {},
Jesus_Christ: {},
Holy_Spirit: [{}, {}, {}, etc]
}];
>>77960839
>It's like having three objects in an array
Actually, it's not because no one claims that each of the objects _is_ the array.
>>77958571
Vishnu and Shiva are as important as Brahma, but none of the three are the top of the pantheon, they only represent the life cycle of the universe.
the real top daddy is Brahman, which isn't even a god but an omnipotent, ever-present, sentient reality or something crazy like that, everything in the universe originates from it, is eternally a part of it, and returns to it upon death wherein they again are born into another being whether it be a fly, human, or even Vishnu.
>>77957740
Sadly, nowadays we think that God is some kind of old guy in the sky shitting orders. Actually, in the Traditional world God is the Absolute anteriority (not in the temporal sence), the fountain from which the water blossoms, so he IS.
Shitty nowadays pagans personalize the ancient gods and by doing that they absolutely kill the truth of ancient mitologies. They hate christianity (funny, the founders of Asatrú were Jews, curious huh?) and they want to be completely apart of the monotheistic theology by ignoring it. So they willingly fail to recognise that the ancient Pagans viewed the World as an Order of hierarchical principles. So there were orders of gods (much as the orders of Angels) and the Hierarchy ended in the supreme principle, the supreme God. By the way, ancient romans recognized that and named their supreme god "Jupiter" which means Zeus Piter (Father Zeus).
>>77961142
Let's call it an object with two objects and an array of objects (Holy Spirit).
>>77961379
Let's call it a contradiction in terms
>>77960839
Don't all objects need to be of the same class to be in an array? Or at the very least have a shared parent class?
Fuck, I've got to brush up on my OOP.
>>77961649
Not in JavaScript. JS is much more flexible. Javascript isn't "true OOP", but serves the similar purposes.
>>77957740
Why not?
>>77957740
because Kek is the one and only
>>77960839
are you saying jesus fucked his own mother?
>>77959058
That quote has numbers and a colon, so it must be legit.
>>77957740
There can be only one
>>77957740
I personally subscribe to the group of insanely hot goddesses, because fuck it I want tits in heaven.
>>77957740
God is "to be" or the world of being, God, in this sense, which is the traditional metaphysical view, must be monotheistic. Multiple gods correspond to natural occurrences (lightning, tsunami), not a metaphysical view.
>>77964078
>There can be only one
Why?
