How will the USA fall?
Who will take over as the world power?
>>77925683
The South.
>>77925683
If globalists continue to retain power and keep pushing certain agendas regarding mass amnesty for illegal immigrants, importing hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees and allowing them to install Sharia zones, disarming Americans, as well as allowing niggers to get poorer and poorer, the economic and political collapse of America will be caused by large-scale race riots. We're talking a violent depression that forces martial law in inner cities and scarcity of food.
Russia would gain much more influence in Europe and the Middle East.. If China could adapt to the American economy crashing, they would be a global superpower and control all of Asia.
India :^)
>>77926325
>our poo will blot out the sun!
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
Civil war. Canada and Mexico will also be dragged into it. North America will be completely Balkanized.
>Who will take over as the world power?
Probably Russia.
>>77925683
Democrats.
China.
>>77925812
>The South
So niggers?
>>77926908
Do you have any idea what America is like
>>77925683
we are a world power again?... when did that happen?
We're ready to take our rightful place as world leader.
All shall be filled with pastry and bacon and be happy, even the muslims.
The kikes still need to die.
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
Slowly and painfully.
>Who will take over as the world power?
The cockroaches, when we fall we're taking the world down with us.
>>77927199
You're a world power, but not a superpower anymore.
No ideological, apocalyptic threat to make others to rally behind you.
>>77926259
>Russia would gain much more influence in Europe and the Middle East..
Russia is in a pretty deep shit so I doubt they could do anything any time soon. Especially without an antagonizing USA providing some easy-to-consume narrative for your average Ivan.
>>77925683
Globalism, I'm calling India
Based-
Honorable-
Peacful-
Fast mating-
Pro-Hitler
I think no one, the whole world will just follow along.
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
Like the Roman empire did. You are Rome 2.0 and many people don't realize this
>uncontested superpower
>biggest and most technological army
>getting a shitload of immigrants
>tensions between ethnic and religious groups are flaring
You will end up balkanizing according to ethnic groups and becoming much less relevant. The power void will most likely be filled out by either Russia, China or an hypothetical United States of Europe
>>77927461
This could actually be an interesting scenario. While I agree Russia would not go into full Soviet Imperialism mode, I think they would definitely increase their control over the Middle East without America being able to arm rebel factions and control oil fields. How would the European Union and NATO handle themselves with the absence of America?
>>77925683
When the empire ( USA ) decline, as all empires do when they reach limit of expansion. There is either a smooth exchange like Pax Britannica to Pax Americana (culturally of course as we have WW2), or turmoil in the vacuum it leaves like after Pax Romana. I believe in turmoil. Too many players in the game.
>>77927107
>truth
>>77927660
This is the correct answer.
>>77927660
This. I think balkanisation will definitely happen in the United States in our lifetime. If you see all the tensions between groups right now, it seems inevitable.
Hillary getting elected.
>>77925683
USE
>>77925683
Islam
Convert or Die
Communist revolution is coming and I will be there helping my comrades
>>77929681
russian proxy or war rapebaby?
State will cease to have meaning in about.... twenty years ago.
>>77929797
>You haven't tried MY communism.
Im excited about the fall of the U.S. in favor of the USSA, and guess who else would be too...
>>77929780
>proxy
nah, Russian studying here and spreading the words of Lenin for everyone to hear
>>77929681
A traitor to the Khanate!
>>77930162
How are you not dead yet?
>>77930224
because university students agree with me :^)
Marx is really popular among university students here
>>77925683
US territory will remain an important country but I don't know which states exactly
The USA will fail because of the collapse of the public order caused by massive degeneracy, and because of multiculturalism. I don't know if there will be a civil war tho. And of course, there will be an attack on american currency, lead by China
The thing is that the USA is currently building a liberal Leviathan surveillance state. You already have religious liberty slowly but steadily eviscerated. You have no collective force outside of state that could oppose the government. That means the government will be able to control single people in the USA. And with the "internet of things", neuroscience progress and genetic manipulation - this will become easier
How much time there's left for liberals to create their superstate - idk. But already one russian analyst has written a book about the disintegration of the USA. We might witness actually a disintegration of 3 huge entites in our lifetime - USA, EU and Russia
>>77927863
The problem is that the Middle East does not need Russia for anything, especially if the US is not in the picture.
On the other hand, Russia needs the EU more than the EU fears Russia. If the EU goes down in the shitter, then Russia will follow suit quickly.
Then, of course, we have China eyeing with Russia's resource-rich ass. That could be a problem too, especially without the USA fucking around the chinks.
If America balkanises in the future, Canada might grow.
http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/why-canada-might-have-the-goods-to-become-a-superpower
>>77925683
No.
US elites still have gobbling up Canada (free resources) and Mexico (free labor) as a future plan.
The US empire will last a long while. Then it'll gobble the EU.
Granted the US at this point won't be the US, but it will still be remarkably similar - championing democracy, etc while being anything but and still bombing and invading around the globe. Not allowing any other competing powers emerge.
NOW, how will that future empire end? It won't really. It'll unite with other regions and countries and forms unions. The individual US in that might lose power, but the elites would just migrate into that bigger super structure.
>>77925683
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within." - Will Durant
>>77927924
Basically this, I wonder where the next great empire will arise though?
Honestly, just like with Rome I wouldn't be surprised if it were some areas to the North, like parts of the US/Canada that may not even have any sort of common allegiance yet.
>>77931189
So without American or Russian influence in the Middle East, do you think the Arab world would stabilize, or would massive wars break out? I could see Sunnis going to war with other Muslims, as well as major powers like Iran and Saudi Arabia fighting for control of oil reserves.
I think another good topic would be Korea. Does the North invade the South and Japan? Maybe China annexes the peninsula.
>>77925683
Most likely china
>>77925683
China. Can't stop them at this point.
>>77927660
Italy is correct. Not saying I am necessarily against an ethnically separated America, even if our influence and power is split into a fraction.
>>77927359
Kek
The US is the only remaining superpower fegget
Add my vote for China. They just built the world's largest supercomputer with all Chinese produced components.
>>77925683
United National Socialist States of America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8o1AFgX9Y
>>77932198
The U.S is not real, only thing that is the U.S is the state not any people.
We are in very dangerous times. Just seeing how well Bernie did this election makes me question our future. At this rate we may begin falling apart within a decade.
>>77932198
There is nothing unique about the U.S, it is a state which could just as easily be administered by a different state and nothing changes.
>>77935158
This is what the Jew has been working towards, the degradation and subversion of the nation into an arbitrary state in order to unite all the world under them.
Old Superpowers never die.
They just fade away.
Blame Crooked Hillary if you see the Soviet flag outside of the White House
>>77935560
What changes?
What gives this state the right to govern over another state?
>>77925683
The USA will fall when Trump starts abandoning US military bases abroad when they refuse to pay protection money. We will no longer have the force projection or influence to be a Global Hegemon, We'll just decay from there and shrink in on ourselves We'll just stop being a superpower due to isolationism, the goal will be to distance us from world events, but that won't happen, we'll still be effected by world events we'll just have less of an effect ourselves.
>>77936501
>we
What is we?
The jews
The only real state is a racially pure one, fake states are multiracial.
>>77937380
Fake states are arbitrary and have no reason for existence.
The USA past 1865 had no reason for existence, it stopped being a nation and started being a state.
>>77926325
>by 2030!
>>77927660
Right on the money tony.
EESTI :DDDDD
Better prepare for them mandatory tootbrushing laws
>>77926471
then we will fight in the shit
>>77936664
the United States, us, as a nation.
You can't be the world's #1 economy and be isolationist. The world WILL pull you into wars whether you want it or not
So either we'll stop being the #1 economy, or we'll get btfo in a world war, or we'll have to stop trying to be isolationist and be the world leader again.
>>77937950
>we
>fight
For what?
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
You will see soon
>Who will take over as the world power?
United Earth except Russia and its allies.
>>77938021
the United States, us, as a nation.
US is not a nation, can you tell if this is a US nationite?
>>77938146
it's an immigrant nation that rose up in the 20th century and became the #1 economy in the world, and after world war 2, a global hegemon and superpower, not an ethnically pure state.
Fact is, the US is to blame for Europe's current immigration fixation. They look at us being powerful and wealthy and being filled with immigrants so they seek to imitate.
But what works for us doesn't necessarily work for them, and it's not our brown skinned immigrants that made the country successful, it was the european immigrants in the late 19th and 20th centuries.
>>77938146
There is no us or we in the republic government ruled territory of North America.
>>77938739
There is no us, the U.S doesn't exist.
Actually the country that will rise to become the next global super power is the country that will be unharmed by economic collapse (which will happen if the US tanks) and the country which has the least significant challenges to its growth.
You can already count out all the major countries in the world. If the US tanks, its bringing everyone down (economically) with it.
I'm putting my money on SEA countries. They have resources, fertile land and has historically been a trading nexus. Yes they are technologically backward and are shitty but they are the only countries that won't be affected (badly) by global economic collapse.
>>77938739
>Fact is, the US is to blame for Europe's current immigration fixation. They look at us being powerful and wealthy and being filled with immigrants so they seek to imitate.
Ya know, I think what it is is that they think its the fact that the US is one country with one major language etc., so they want to import durkas to completely homogenize their culture. That's my theory.
>>77938739
What the man is trying to make you realize, anon, is that that nation is dead. The government we have today is much more overarching than the monarchy the founding fathers rebelled against. It does not serve Abby prior, preferring to import them and give them welfare for more power.
A nation is made for the enrichment of a certain people. There is no American people anymore. We are trapped under a federal government that is keeping all these competing groups together. America is more akin to an international shopping mall than a nation at this point. Thinking of yourself as an American at this point is foolish. Does anything this place does actually represent you?
>>77939355
>abby prior
American people
>>77938990
no they want to "diversify" it.
>>77939355
Some ideals we still have do. We don't get arrested for "hate speech" on twitter for one. I can still own firearms to defend myself, I don't have to self incriminate myself in a court of law, I have the right to due process and cops can't just come into my house without a warrant and start searching the place top to bottom, etc.
Our government is overarching because our nation has become too powerful to not have a powerful government. If our Government was as powerless as 19th century America, yet we were still as rich as late 20th century America the world would be picking us apart.
>>77925683
Sardinia, soon after they get their independence.
They'll show the world the power of the pure blood
>>77939713
>Antarctic is brown
India conquered that?
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
Nuclear war
>Who will take over as the world power?
The new world order
>>77925683
The Second American Civil War which would either break out on it's own or be an extension of WW3 when Russia and China attempt to bring the war to American shores by fomenting a rebellion i.e. Germany sending Lenin to Russia in 1917.
Since the EU and NATO would likely fall apart without American support, Russia and China would be left to compete for control of the remnants of the American Empire.
>>77925812
Ironically correct
>>77927173
He's a cannuck so yes
>>77940069
American doesn't exist.
>>77936501
>not knowing the first 130 years of our nation
Okay, whatever you say senpai. We were isolationist for a very long time, and we were extremely powerful then.
>>77940298
America prior to WW1 was the largest economy, interventionism and imperialism in the last century or so has only spilled European American blood.
>>77940167
The identity of American will cease to exist once North, South, East, and West draw swords against one another for the second time. It will be a war so barbaric it will shatter our national identity forever.
>>77939706
Those things are all under attack by a huge bloc of your government. They're held in place by white men, a demographic that the government works to make irrelevant around the clock. While we don't have (((hate speech))) laws yet you will be mass targeted and ostracized for speaking the truth and the left is working to codify it In law and importing millions of people to back it up. Wake up to what your country is.
>>77939355
>implying it can't all be turned around
This is the problem with this country.
>>77940526
There is no American identity.
>>77927723
is that fucking supreme ruler ultimate
>>77940526
This is the true poison that the cultural vandals inflicted upon us. American culture sheared off in different directions that are no longer compatible, and they're ultimately incapable of long-term co-existence because of the morality element.
>>77925683
Mexico
>>77940651
Yeah there is.
It is still latent and in the background but it is there.
There is a reason rock and roll is still so popular. There is a reason American fashion companies and movies are so popular. There is a reason our TV shows and our own culture quirks go across the oceans.
There is a reason non Americans can spot an American almost immediately.
Stop being a negative whiner and start making changes anon. If you're this upset to have 17 posts in this thread, then you sure as hell can get off your ass and do something about it.
>>77940626
It cannot be turned around using the current institutions. It can be by radical changes, establishing a nation for American whites, we're the only bloc that actually votes for liberty justice and all that crap. There would need to be stripping of citizenship and multiple new amendments, along with a purging of entrenched elites, to reverse course at this point. A revolution is more likely than that, honestly.
>>77940526
lol yeah right or we shut off all your tech and then drone strike the redneck south into behaving properly
>>77927333
Turks?
>>77941128
>>77941036
That isn't an identity, that isn't a people, it is arbitrary and non existent.
>>77941339
>I'm going to just keep saying it isn't existent
Try shitposting a little better. You're making us look bad.
>>77925683
The best that our enemies can hope to accomplish is to lock us out of the old world. Like all great powers, we'll fail due to internal problems but will remain the top dog of the new world as long as the union stays intact. If Texas ever became independent, they would quickly be absorbed by mexico. The next theater of war is going to be in South America. Enemies of the US would have an interest in destabilizing our neighbors
>>77941144
It won't just be the south. We are a part of the largest migration in human history. The Germans and Rome, the angles/Saxons and the Celts, the Arabs and multiple white tribes throughout the middle east and Levant. Only a fool would look at the absolutely ludicrous migration that has happened in the US in such a short time and pretend we're getting out unscathed and whole.
>>77941418
An American people don't exist.
>>77941036
It is latent because it is dying. What happens in another generation when Africa is 50 percent white? Is what you're taking about still what"America" is our is it different?
>>77941418
American people exist just as much as a NATO people, an UN people etc..
>>77941315
Nice. I'm enlightened by your intelligent argument.
>>77925683
The USA will never fall to a foreign power, the USA will rip itself apart from within.
There is no difference between "American" and United Nationsite.
>>77942185
USA doesn't exist.
>>77941144
>Be Northerner
>Gloat like the parasitic vermin you are as expected
>Use a military tactic that has only further enraged Muslims into taking up arms against the United States
>Not realizing that you would get the same result here, with 10 men joining the Confederate Army for every Southerner killed by an MQ-1 Predator.
You won't be gloating so much when the Northern cities begin starving after the rednecks cut off them off from the outside world.
>>77941144
This is why you Northern fucks are considered shitbags and kike lovers.
>>77940117
The US will not fragment long term, neither side will accept partial sovereignty of the country.
It will be The Year of the Long Knives and then there will be no more lefty asshats left. The Left cannot fight, and a vast majority of the military will just stand down or defect when the Globalist leaders say "Go suppress the US population"
>>77941144
Boy I look forward to the day we carry out our own March to the Sea from Chicago to Boston and burn every last one of you Yankee parasites along with your wretched.
That is if the rural folk in your own states you love to trample over don't rise up and kill you first.
>>77942382
Northerners truly are pieces of absolute shit.
And that is why we should kill every last one of them.
cloward piven strategy is the most plausible cause of our fall:
Overload welfare system, cause economic collapse, like in Venezuela.
that's why the democrats are importing so much 3rd world welfare demanding basket-cases into this country.
>>77942643
>>77942382
>>77942236
We are not going to secede this time, we are taking the whole thing back.
>>77942236
>Implying rednecks know how to farm
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
Over run by filthy spics who beg for food housing and 'just want a better life for their children' without having to do any work at all to earn it all while they plot to take our land from us (even though you can't pay them to live on land they already fucking own, these dumbasses are just certain if they had a handful of our states given to them they somehow wouldn't just turn into the same shit as mexico but that it was happens when you get invaded by a people with barely above retard IQ)
>Who will take over as the world power?
No one. Europe will be full of mudslimes who will likely make paris or london the new 'center of the world' but it will just be savages camping in the burnt out ruins of what was once a beautiful place because that is what savages do when they get their hands on shiny shit they never could have made themselves - they covet, they hoard, they lie about how it came to be- soon the landmarks of europe will be invented and made by the muslims as they scribble new history books.
White people, not being parasites, will go back to the fields and the settlements that they can upkeep while the cities turn into zombie style warlands and elevator shafts fill with subhuman feces.
Eventually even the ruins will die and the ghouls will face massive die offs. Those that manage to survive will flee into the surrounding villages searching for people to steal food from because they know of no other way of getting food. They will be dealt with by the villagers easily, since they will be hungry, desperate and outnumbered. This is how the subhumans will die out in the white countries.
Then, and only then will we find ourselves to have the means to expand and grow. When we support parasites we never grow, only die slowly. Maybe this time we will learn.
>>77942428
>The Left cannot fight
Go tell that to the Soviet Union
>Also implying American society is strictly split in left vs right
Not that simple anon. Americans are divided over everything from race to religion, to region. Also, there's the question of what's gonna happen after the US soldiers refuse to follow the orders of the globalists/defect?
Who's Army are they gonna join then?
The Answer: Whichever side they're personal political views incline them towards, which is more than one.
Hence beginning the process of Balkanization.
>>77942191
I guess Western Sahara must be redpilled as fuck
>>77942236
Shit that would never happen, the post
>>77943075
We need to be more Explicit next time around.
The Founders thought that education level would stay at their level, when we see that a 3rd grader now would be treated like a mentally damage being of trash placed in their education system with similarly aged children.
>The New Constitution of the United States of America.
>MOST PEOPLE ARE FUCKING STUPID, IF YOU ALLOW STUPID PEOPLE TO RUN THINGS THEN SHIT WILL FAIL
>>77925683
New Caldonea
>>77942941
No point to trying that.
I live in a blue state (West Coast) and I can tell you that you would have to fight the entire populace before they'd submit to you.
>>77942968
>>Implying rednecks know how to farm
>implying they don't
>>77943421
*Eternal Yankee shits his pants and enters a state of self-denial*
>>77925683
Nuclear war will destroy all civilized countries
Mongolia will survive
Golden Horde 2.0 will rise and conquer the Irradiated Masses
Mongolia rules all as was destined by the great Khan
>>77943321
US lefties and Soviet Lefties are not the same people, so comparing the two is not an argument.
I think it more likely that 15-20% actively defects, 10% stay loyal to federal power, and the rest just sits on the sideline.
As for the Army fragmenting into different parts the military demographics are skewed in our favor massively.
>>77943747
We will not give up one inch of American Soil to the Enemy, be that foreign gangs, or Domestic Cultural Marxists. If that means we have to cleanse California then we will cleanse California.
>>77944069
If that means we have to cleanse California then we will cleanse California.
nice resolve, ancestors would be proud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW8o1AFgX9Y
>>77936501
>faggot dont know dick nigguh
all wrong. we already lack the military might to genuinely be able to wipe out anyone on the planet, but neither can anyone else. china can only defend itself and can't project power, russia is little different. we can project power, but any fight would be a fucking bloodbath and extremely expensive for us
trump pulling back would change nothing, we still have the capacity to project power across the globe to a greater extent than any other nation on the planet
>b-2 spirits
>carrier groups
>marine corps
also if you believe some anons
>sb-3 ghouls
>>77938145
this is the most likely scenario
>>77943479
It is no surprise to me that we did just fine as a country when our educated people were a minority yet we struggle now even though education is abundant.
Even a very dumb man, if he is honest and cares for the well being of others, can be a valuable member of a community.
Whereas these foreigners who come to our lands seeking to be handed a decent life have no loyalty in their souls and will always be quick to put their hand out for more. These are the people who destroy a nation. Those who prefer their own people but come to our lands seeking to be given what they have no intention of, or ability to create.
We can support any number of dumb, honest people who are willing to work toward the greater good. What we cannot support are the endless hands that come begging with no intention of ever contributing for anyone but themselves. Parasites, both in their hearts and their actions. Subversives in their every living action. They will cheer as the civilization that feeds, clothes, houses them is destroyed because loyalty is considered a weakness to these subhumans. They will only mourn once they realize that there is no one left to feed them or to care for them. And then they will mourn only their own loss. These are the people that come rushing across the border for 'a better life'.
>>77941144
everyone else has said it, but in the event that we do "shut off all your tech" it would be the effete north that suffers, and i say this as a northerner.
we're the ones who will have to deal with marauding niggers, you should be so lucky as to have the south on your side.
>>77945354
yeah. this is something else
proliferation of college education has given everyone this notion that if you do go to college you're somehow more qualified and if you don't, you're a dogshit retard.
the truth is most people don't need to go to college and going to college does not mean you're smart
it DOES give you the sense that you actually know your shit because omg muh diversity muh degree
>>77945358
>you should be so lucky as to have the south on your side.
>>77944973
>china can only defend itself and can't project power, russia is little different.
ICBMs and nukes are the ultimate form of power projection.
All of those fancy planes, carriers, and marines are toys compared to the power of Atom.
Never forget that.
>>77925683
ROSHIA-NIPPON!
>>77945935
You cannot truly defeat a country until you occupy it in some form.
Boots on the Ground will always be the Final step in war. The use of Nukes is to admit that you cannot complete at any other level of warfare, much like a SJW screaming RACIST at people who try to debate them.
Nordics
>>77946374
we already fight enough brown sand people, romania
>>77946374
romanis is nordic?
>>77946260
Calm down, Hirohito.
>>77927660
This is correct.
>>77938739
>They look at us being powerful and wealthy and being filled with immigrants so they seek to imitate.
Except they forgot the key element of what makes America so successful at integrating immigrants.
How much we fucking hate immigrants.
I mean think about it. Literally every major groups in this country is subjected to the most vicious of hazing rituals as soon as they reach our shores. We spit on them, despise them, accuse them of ruining our way of life, say they'll never assimilate, lynch them from time to time. We break down their identity and subject them to a great baptism by fire. For the Irish, it was the Civil War, for the Germans, it was the World Wars, for the Japanese, it was World War II. After a few generations, whatever loyalty they once had for their old homeland has been all but erased and they're allowed to join the club.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-qtoxnAS8
>>77946374
Nice try Bogdan...
>>77946682
kek
You how to deal with uppity Japs right Russia bro?
>>77946979
Like not giving what they desperatly want?
>>77946374
finland is uralic! vlach is roman-justinian!
>>77946682
i am tojo! showa was figurehead
>>77947341
karafuto-hokkaido-chishima should be in one country!
we not mad, just want NATO out. free eurasia of america.
>>77946979
YANKi GO HOMU! EAT NUKE TRUMAN!
I didn't know Hiro even visited /pol/ learn something new everyday
my country, russia or china
>>77947756
>>77947847
Looks like we've got anon from Nihon Sekigun.
Just like in that 80s animes
>>77947756
Daily Reminder that you go BTFO'd by a good ole' boy from Missouri
>>77925683
It has already fallen, it's just an empty shell that has outsourced all knowledge already.
2017 - Dwindling Race Relations, SJWS had left a schism in society. After the fallout of the new annointed POTUS there is a civil war amongst the left and the right. By this year most Millenials will be fully grown adults scarred and numb. With Generation Z reaching there 20s brainwashed and fully discordant from the rest of society. Things are going to escalate worse amongst SJWS. The Zika Virus will have started to take effect. More smaller ISIS proxy cells commiting terror attacks in the states. Wide spread panic and fear and mass pandemonium. Especially with the baby boomers starting to drop like flies either by natural causes or suicide. Automation takes off and chaos ensues.
By 2018- The Red Pill will have become mainstream when a majority of dumb bitches realize that they are to blame for the chaos in our society. But the damage is already to late. MGTOW will have become mainstream too and in retaliation, more woman will act even more promiscuous then ever before. By this point full frontal sex in holiday wood movies will become mainstream. And the degeneracy only grows from there. Automation continues and the unemployment rate steadily doubles to 8%. More ISIS terror attacks since it became easier for them to conduct since racial profiling Muslims is looked down upon now.
2019- Hook up culture has lead to 45% of adults between the ages of 18-40 to be a carrier for STDs. Zika virus still plagues society. Automation continues to happen, dwindling birth rates, unemployment, the spirit of society is fully broken.
By this year the corruption of the politicians that run our government will have caused Generation Z to start a violent revolution in retaliation. Martial Law is enacted upon. Hundreds of thousands of young adults decide to become martyrs since they cant stand the way society is heading too
2020- People will finally realize that Ww3 has been ongoing through economics and cyber proxy wars for the last 10 years
>>77926908
>Who will take over as the world power?
It depends. If EU ban islam and remove kebab, EU would be a world power. I can see Russia supporting that.
>>77943075
>>77945935
>nukes
i should have clarified that i was talking about a conventional conflict, not a doomsday scenario (a conventional conflict wherein nobody would use nukes under any circumstance)
>>77938739
>They look at us being powerful and wealthy and being filled with immigrants so they seek to imitate.
Literally the political awareness of a child
>>77942756
This seems like a pretty realistic fall, considering Clinton's desire to implant welfare voters.
>>77925683
30 years from now whites will be a minority in America. That's how it'll fall.
>>77948598
The fall is not coming in 30 years, it is coming in 10.
Be Ready Leaf, if we fall to civil war you are coming with us.
I pray America falls, the dollar becomes worthless.
Then the only states that will survive are farming states and the south. Without the liberal pressure from Washington we will purge the nigs from south. Northern cities will starve. Whites and Mexicans form new super America and ban jews.
This is my fantasy
>>77943747
>Implying rednecks know how to farm
>implying they don't
Can confirm this, the confederate imigrants we got after the civil war brought all their advanced farming technology with them, it literally was the foundation of modern agriculture in Brazil.
>>77948465
Well then that would have to be a very limited conflict (in which case, neither side would utilize their full military potential) where the consequences of either side losing wouldn't be catastrophic.
If a nuclear armed power seriously thought it's survival as a government was at serious risk, the likelyhood that nuclear weapons will be a used is almost certain.
>>77948700
I agree that I was being a way too generous, I didn't want to alienate Americans though.
>>77948188
now you chose shilary and get enriched! too bad, here bomb fk u!
youre filth negry nation, hitler said in zweites buch! you must be nuked rather!
>>77947847
towelface from ironmarch posted on new, he introduced me to japanese strasserism and national left!
there is other one too >>77927933
>>77929681
unite finland-karelia-ingria! uralic people one!
>>77948289
2020 cont-
Poverty, famine, global weather fluctuations increasingly becoming more and more violent with natural disasters killing millions of people every year. Tsunamis, Stage 7 earthquakes, Stage V hurricanes, Terror attacks. Widespread poverty. Famine, Mass shootings. Rapefugees destroying Europe, automation. 1 in 5 children born with shrunken heads. 1 in 2 children being born with autism. 1 in 6 children being born with either HIV or Aids. 1 in 2 adults is a carrier for STD. Crops start to fail, Farming complex suffers because of the weather. Food becomes expensive. The poor class will die off from either suicide, famine or STDs.
People start to become disillusioned believing that it's God punishing them. They start to pray for a Messiah to come save them
And no one comes.
The global elite decides that its best to enact ww3 to kill off the populatiion because the planet can't sustain humanity anymore.
And only 60% of humanity remains by the end of 2030.
>>77949107
saved from krautchan, very true
you us-yanki people are stupid subrace shit, i want you all suffer like hiroshima and nagasaki christians, and others!
killed culture and civilisation you always lack!
nigger-redskin-spic shits
>>77948854
>I pray America falls,
We know Paco, you're dragging us down just as fast as you can.
> Whites and Mexicans form new super America and ban jews.
Go away, beaner. You and your people are nothing but a burden. Don't pull that 'hard worker' meme on me, we both know that if that were actually true mexico wouldn't be a trash heap you lazy fucks keep trying to flee.
>>77949078
I was just clarifying, even if the US was 25% white we would still win an open Race war, being a minority won't matter in that respect.
But the Trigger was never hitting minority status; it was running out of Federal Reserve Monopoly money to throw around. The Collapse is coming, The fed has created a Bubble unseen in human history; when this baby pops the world is going back to the dark ages for a few years.
>>77925683
>How will the USA fall?
From internal traitors AKA leftist
>>77948289
>call yourself the anti Christ
>expect to be taken seriously
>>77949454
How do you know for sure that I'm not?
>>77925683
Last I looked, we already fell. The USA's corpse just keeps rolling further and further down the hill. Gutted and hollowed out by world Jewry like a pumpkin, we're just a walking golem for them to seize more and more power from other countries.
Problem is, they let in too many people from South America and Mexico who are immune to Jewry guilt trips. They are struggling to stay number one on the victim pyramid these days.
Fresh propaganda to attempt to get Miguel and Carlos up to speed, but too little too late. By the time the USA's corpse has fully decomposed, we'll be The United Sates of BR? Huehue, annexed into Mexico, or something similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYcx43AmAyY
The U.S. will fail because of multi-culturalism and mainstream retardation.
Just look at the media mechanics (and I´m not only talking about the U.S., but Europe as well). Claiming submissive tolerance to foreign cultural and religious values which do not even FIT into the country or its population.
Society as a whole is a shit pile of decadence, ever less decency left.
There is NO problem is youth admiring and adapting patterns from so called "VIPs", that has always been the case. Even in the Roman Republic, elders complained about the youth adopting certain behaviors from artists and actors.
And religion...do not get me started. Can be a source of cultural advancement, yes. Certainly WAS to in history. But it it primarily used as a reflexive shield of the uneducated to protect their own limited space of interpreting what is right or not, what should be or not, what one does or not. One can´t even deny a positive intention completely, however the way religion infests parts of U.S. public life and civil society is...simply mind-boggling.
The U.S. will not simply disintegrate with a single wink of an eye. But the civilisatory crust (is that even a word?) is VERY thin.
Basically, human are animals. See the events transpiring at Catharina. It does NOT take much to revert civil society into a state where might alone gives power.
It can be strengthened, if more people are thoroughly bound by identical believes, values and a moral system.
Growing elements of Muslim immigrants do not accept European values. AND the younger generations even less so. They become even LESS integrated than their parents, who escaped more dire economical situations. So what does this tell us? The feeling of being different is deeply routed and fed by a religious self-understanding of "god given laws" which are supreme to political laws.
So...instant "failing" is not on the table. But slow deconstruction. Unfortunately, because the original "U.S. idea" is mostly good.
>>77949666
kek fucking heretics
>>77949107
>now you chose shilary and get enriched! too bad, here bomb fk u!
>implying we aren't going to chose Trump
Those are fighting words Jap.
You remember the last time you fought us?
>>77925683
Who will take over will not be so easy, neither will the fall of the U.S
In the event of an all out happening..
Every where will be mini war zones and civil war erupts at every level of govt, society. military, police, etc.
People forget that most of the world relies on the U.S. They go down too, if we do. And who's to say we don't nuke the shit out of everyone around us out of desperation?
Or everyone starts nuking each other out of panic?
I don't think anyone comes out on top, except...Samoa
>>77950093
you did pearl harbour false flag and force to war! too bad soren not ally, moskva
trump rather not like china, but aint going to win, democracy is false. total nuclear war is between us! nippon people hate you, fuck off you nigger rapists! we will side with russia and china likely
south korea and japan is colony but will be civil war!
kim jong called your president monkey and wife tranny, worst filth
existence of washington is abomination and beast of christianity!
>>77949942
They fucked us all into damnation
>>77950441
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B0_%28%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%29
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%80%C2%BB
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D1%83%D0%B3%D0%B0_%28%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F%29
great satan! gott strafe amerikkka!
you killed america natives and want to kill slavs, our altaic race and others! you're mad monster, eurasia must be free of nato occupation
>>77925683
predicting the future is a problem. China would be problematic. They have the economic power but lack the creative culture that usa have (like arts and tecnology). Places like New York and the silicon Valley were all the brains of the world of any nationality can merge to create stuff for the world. So china cant be the new ultimate power. I would guess japan, if they man up and start producing weapons again.
>>77945935
ICBMs and nukes are nothing but deterrence anon. We can't USE them. We can actually use our bases and Navy to project force in a useful way.
Nuclear weapons were only useful as tools of war when we were the only country that had them. The moment our enemy also had them, they served no use other than to deter our enemy from using theirs. They likewise, use their warheads to deter us from using ours. Their only other use is in deterring direct armed conflict between countries that have them.we can fuck with anyone we want as long as they don't have nukes. The moment they do have nukes, our options become much more limited. See how we deal with Russia and North Korea when we have differences that might warrant a military response had our dispute been with another country.
Aside from their deterrent nature, nukes are useless.
Navies and armies and air forces are useful.
>>77950542
>>77949942
>>77949666
>>77949454
If anyone can be a saint and screen cap these posts for me that would be great.
>>77951769
Putin can take his entire cabinet and wealth to another country, pay the people off to supress his where abouts, and have someone remotely detonate several Nukes aimed all over the major cities in the world just for shits and kicks like the autistic madman that he is before anyone can flinch a muscle.
The only thing that can deter a nuke is material that can contain its energy. The first country to develop a nuke container becomes the sole controlling superpower of the world.
>>77925683
Bulgaria
>>77943964
And yet they can't get over the wall of China
>>77940725
Supreme ruler 2020. This nigga old school.
>>77946717
Oh, definitely assimilation of immigrants is absolutely vital to make an immigrant nation work. We keep some new ideas like ethnic food that they bring cause let's be honest, who doesn't like having all sorts of different culture's food in one place?
We let them bring their food, sometimes their music and art, we let them keep their religion, but they have to learn English, that have to adhere to our laws and values, and regardless of what religion they follow we expect them to adhere to our holiday schedule
Europe is fucking up by adjusting to their immigrants rather than forcing their immigrants to adjust to them.
There are those few aspects though that I'm glad we do have a lot of immigrants for, like I said, food, music, art.it all blends in and we put our own american spin on things and then spread it around the world.
>>77935158
The geography of America will make it a food superpower.
Who else has a Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, etc.
Soil and Rainfall.
>>77950785
>>77950441
This seems like really weak b8 but I'm biting anyways.
We hate niggers; you hate niggers.
We hate our leadership not stopping you nips from hitting pearl harbor; you hate our leadership letting you hit pearl harbor.
You're disappointed by democracy; we're often disappointed by democracy.
We call our first family various pejoratives; you reference the same kind of things.
China doesn't like you; they remember Nanking. The American natives were savages and honestly in many ways before we nuked you, so were you. You were able to adapt to the modern world though; the natives still live shitty lives despite government assistance out the ass, or maybe because of it. We were against the slavs when they were commies. Only our leadership and the old folk hate them now. Many of us would like to be able to cooperate with them.
If you want your independence from china, you'll have to stick with us for now. Also, enjoy hell, I guess.
>NATO
>anything other than a system by which other nations get to benefit from American military might
We get the short end of the stick with NATO, but it has a purpose.
>>77925683
Globalism
China
>>77925683
Asia. That`s the natural order of things, the huge advantage thanks to tech the west had for the last 500 or so years was the exception, not the norm.
Or first europe (with Russia) for a short period of time, should it manage to organize itself enough to form a stable alliance soon enough.
>How will the USA fall?
It'll quietly slip into irrelevance, like the UK did.
>Who will take over as the world power?
China.
>>77950093
Personally, the way things are going, you aren't going to find much support from me or others. Especially if Hillary gets elected. There comes a time when it becomes pointless to "fight" anymore.
More retarded foreigners are flooding through the gates. And none of them want to be American. They will end up taking a large chunk of our southern parts if corrective measures are not taken. Measure that would have been taken years ago, but no one has the stomach.
We are losing our rights, we our losing our country. If Hillary wins, then we have lost. She will use her time in office to solidify her position. There would be no point.
It will take an act of sheer horror to reverse this.
>>77951769
true words from an anon here
>>77955187
Food and water have always been a basis for power.
