Trump is willing to ban an entire religion over one of these, but won't even support universal background checks for the other. THIS IS WHY THE WORLD LAUGHS AT YOU, BURGERS!
>>77892475
Radical terrorists are trying to kill me and you want to take my guns away?
Are you retarded?
>>77892475
You're right
Ought to ban Australians too
>>77892475
>but won't even support universal background checks
we cant do universal background checks on illegals or refugees. obama did a executive order you faggot. the government is incapable of following it on illegals and refugees.
the orlando guy was investigated and deemed not a threat by the government. they let the california shooter bring that other california shooter into the country despite all her jihad shit on facebook .blame the democrats. they pretend we cant focus on muslims or beaners so there are blind spots.
also you have no statistics on how many of those deaths are from illegally purchased guns because democrats dont want you to know
>>77892475
I agree
Let's ban niggers too
Less than 100, bullshit. Try harder faggot
>>77892810
<100 vs 80,000
Our country was founded on guns, not Islamic terror.
>>77893115
Same thing
>>77893214
Relativistic clap-trap
>>77892810
>>77892865
Regulation does not equal confiscation. Checking if someone is a crim or mental case is common sense when allowing them to purchase guns. Every other country does it except the US, m9.
And you are FAR more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a terrorist: http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/fatalities.shtml. This paranoia around it is some of the most retarded, illogical shit I've ever seen. It's why no one takes Americans seriously, it's just pandering to spastic rednecks, nothing more.
>>77893002
I like how EVERY time "gun violence" is disgusted they never go over the fact that an overwhelming majority of "gun violence" is done by a certain segment of society.
>>77893002
Going by those numbers, we need to ban white Americans too; their gun homicide rate is literally 10 times (1000%) higher than Australia's (0.13/100,000)!! It only adds to the case your guns are all too often falling into the wrong hands, even white ones.
>>77893503
>disgusted
Uhh
>>77892475
Aussie genocide now.
>>77893503
See>>77893600
It's not just Black Americans that murder people with guns at a far higher rate. Tbh based on those numbers there's a strong case for profiling Americans when they come to Australia. A group that have a gun homicide rate 1000% higher than us must be pretty dangerous. Malcolm needs to announce an immediate ban on American immigration until we figure out what's going on.
>>77893496
Background checks are already required in every state.
Fuck off
Why do you hate rights so much?
>>77893884
Only for licensed gun dealers, not private sales or at guns shows, Hans. Also, the complete lack of storage requirements leads to an incredible amount of gun thefts in America, 200,000 per year to be exact. That's why there's so many ""illegal guns"". Glock don't just allocate a shipment for the black market, retarded burgers virtually give them away to crims. Fyi after Australia's 1996 gun reforms (which included storage requirements), our gun thefts dropped 5 fold and consequently our gun crime is at record lows.
wtf i hate guns now
AAAAAAAAAH YOUR CHANCES OF DYING BECUASE OF XY ARE MUCH HIGHER THEN DYING BECUASE OF ZY SO WHATS YOUR PROBLEM ME TRYING TO INCREASE CHANCE OF YOU DYING BECUASE OF ZY. also there is literally less then 1% muslims in US and still commit this much of attacks. thats something.
>>77892475
Omg! Omg! Omg! According to the Assoc for Safe International Road Travel Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year worldwide, on average 3,287 deaths a day. An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.
We must also ban cars! If you don't agree that cars are a problem then you're just a cold hearted faggot.
>>77892475
>majority made by nignogs
Ban all muslims and nignogs
>>77892475
>>77893496
>>77894134
>he thinks burgers are asleep now
Na you can fuck off, faggot. Islam is an ideology that condones killing while guns are inanimate objects.
Also: read our Constitution before chiming in faggot.
>>77893784
Go for it.
>>77894134
How will your smart ass monitor private sales without violating several constitutional rights?
Fuck off with your bullshit stats, they are meaningless and nobody gives a fuck.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Dealers at gun shows must perform background checks too btw.
Storage requirements make self defense impossible so fuck off with that. Irresponsible idiots don't abide anyway.
Also must guns that are stolen are not stolen from private owners but from dealers. Niggers run into a gun store with a pick up truck and steal 200 guns in 5 minutes. That's how so many get stolen.
>>77892475
That's like saying more people are killed by cars so terrorism isn't a problem.
How many bodies is enough for you to realize that islam is not a religion of peace?
>>77892475
Hehe love seeing fellow flags
>>77894276
There's over 3 million Muslims in the US and there's been a grand total of 2 major attacks. WOW, REALLY MAKES YOU THINK! 2 out of 3 million people could be murderous. Meanwhile the US' murder rate is 4.5/100,000 people.
>>77894309
That's why we have car regulations, retard. And the tighter they are, the less deaths. In Australia, it's way harder to get a drivers license than the US, takes about 3-4 years to get your full one. We also have less than half your road deaths per capita LOL. THANKS FOR MAKING MY POINT!
>>77894478
Enough so it makes up more than 0.0000000001% of total US murders lel. You're better off trying to ban horses than Muslims, they kill far more people per year.
>>77894616
I said ban, not regulate. If you don't support banning cars then just admit you have no soul
>>77892475
>only us deaths
>cutoff is last ten years
nice try shitposter.
>>77892475
Did you know that approximately 18 people were murdered with bowling balls last year in the US. Can you live with those numbers? Are you going to sit by idle and do nothing to stop this madness?
>>77894529
if i want to cut myself i will, if someone other wants to cut me i kill him.
>>77894416
Goddamn Hans. Why don't you move over here already?
I already like you more than most people in my town.
>>77892475
no link
no source
what is this faggotry
50 were killed last week, so that's half
>>77892475
Nobody buys this shit government shill, you talk about regulations and whatnot but most americans know deep down you plan to take the right to bear arms away entirely, that's why they refuse to even give you an inch of that right.
Does it need to be regulated ? Absolutely.
Should be regulated by the current clowns in power ? Fuck no.
Only a true American would grab his assault rifle and shootup a crowd of innocent people. Omar was as American as applie pie and assimilated as expected.
>>77894416
The US Government already monitors virtually all online communications in supposed violation of the constitution lel, the constitution isn't an issue.
And, you're wrong on your second point too: "Known as the "gun show loophole," most states do not require background checks for firearms purchased at gun shows from private individuals -- federal law only requires licensed dealers to conduct checks."
http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html.
And you quite literally made up the part about gun shops making up the majority of gun thefts, provide a source or STOP LYING.
And well, seeing as there's only 250 justified gun homicides per year, 1000x less than the 200,000 thefts it appears that "self-defence" is immaterial, with current regulations people don't appear to be defending their guns at all, just letting them fall into the hands of crims so they can murder and rob with them.
YOU'RE WRONG AND SHOULD FEEL BAD!!!
>>77894894
I applied for the greencard lottery but no luck so far.
Now my plan is to go to uni and find a job somewhere in the south.
If I wasn't so happy with my gf and dog I'd just drop everything and move now. If only I could convince my family and gf to come with me..
I want to be american so bad. You think if I write a really nice letter to Trump he will hire me?
>>77894134
> we took guns away from people so now we have less gun violence
But your burglary, assault and crime has risen ever since.
Fuck off with your selective reasoning
>>77892475
100% of unsourced numbers are bait.
fucking aussies.
>>77894735
I don't support banning guns, and I never mentioned that. What's happened is the car analogy is all you have, and has been completely BTFO by me, so you're grasping at straws now, pathetic really.
>>77892475
honestly the main reason I don't support draconian gun control is because fewer guns on the streets means fewer dindus busy shooting each other
>>77892475
>What is 9/11
>>77893496
>Regulation does not equal confiscation
Liberals want more than Regulation
>>77895162
Can't you just teach English here on a work visa? My brother in law does it all over Europe and said it was happening in the states too
Also Washington State climate is similar to Germany's.
>>77895207
>tfw the NRA lied to you
>tfw when Australian violent crime is at literal record lows
>tfw guns are still readily accessible here, just properly regulated
>>77895304
something that happened more than 10 years ago? Can leftie cucks into math? Or maybe you didn't understand the OP because you can't fucking read.
>>77895304
>implying muslims did 9/11
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
>>77895218
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/05/viral-image/fact-checking-comparison-gun-deaths-and-terrorism-/
Tfw it was actually 280,000 gun deaths in the last decade. I WAS TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT, BURGERS!
>>77895382
Nice, can we have a chart about ARMED robbery now please ?
>>77895114
>the constitution is already being violated so it doesn't matter
Then I guess gun crime doesn't matter either because niggers allready shoot each other?
You didn't provide a source for your claim either.
I never said that private sales require a background check. Your reading comprehension is as bad as your shilling.
>justified gun homicide
That's because the vast majority of defensive gun uses end without shots fired and even when shots are fired most offenders survive.
Your argument is like saying police isn't effective because they don't kill every criminal. Retarded.
>>77895545
Is this it?
>>77895599
Why is it going up and down ?
>>77895373
I suppose I could try that. Never looked into it desu.
I can deal with any climate. I was thinking Texas because supposedly the economy is good and I have a bsc in engineering (architecture).
>>77893496
Maybe because we've made our country such an awful target for terrorists?
Literally every household has a gun. Gun laws are now shifting so that conceal carry is a "shall-issue" in most states.
At the same time as all this is happening, Islamic states such as Iran, and leaders of groups such as Al-Nusra, ISIS, Al-Queda and the Taliban are calling for attacks on western countries during Ramadan.
We're isolated, have lots of guns, very xenophobic, and we don't feel bad about killing people in self defense here.
Only reason you hear about terrorists actually getting kills, is because they do it in liberal-cucked places like Orlando and SF Bay. A terrorist tried to shoot up Garland, Texas. They didn't get very far from what I heard.
>>77895545
That's an overall violent crime chart, spastic, so the robbery rate includes armed robbery too. Unarmed robbery isn't even considered violent crime afaik.
>>77893784
Didn't you guys outlaw guns completely there?
>>77895382
That chart literally shoes violent crime going up after '96
You just BTFO yourself lmao
>>77892475
SHALL
>>77895221
I don't give a crap about this discussion and felt like shitposting once I saw your flag. I admit I didn't even read your posts so I apologize for that.
Here's the problem you gun banners face. Simply research the procedure for amending the US Constitution and then realize it will not happen any time soon. But I agree the powers at be will simply attempt to chip away at gun ownership, so I dont mind the stubborn approach our politicoans take. Also, just accept the fact that the US chose to permit its citizens to own firearms. Why do you care?
For the record, I'm not even a gun enthusiast. I served my brief time in the army and own one shotgun. But in light of recent events I plan to make a firearm purchase simply to show my support.
>>77895720
Yeah but if you're trying to make a point about gun control being effective then post a chart about armed crimes only,
>>77895559
The point is that the government could very easily institute universal background checks, and the constitution would be no impediment. Get over it m8 and stop sooking.
And a source for what? Direct any queries here: http://lmgtfy.com/
And OBVIOUSLY they're still doing a shit job, as they're still getting 200,000 guns stolen per year. If there's so many "defensive gun uses", why are there still literally hundreds of thousands of gun thefts from gun owners? It's almost as if having a gun makes them a target, seeing as you're 1000x more likely to come away with a free gun than be shot lel WOW, SUCH DETERRENCE. Just face it, your gun culture is an utter faliure.
What drives the foreign barbarian to react so negatively to the freedoms they lack? Is it jealousy or is it pride?
>>77892475
I call bull shit. In just 2015 there were 2865 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27626 people were killed and 26149 injured.
Source: https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2015
>>77895685
>A terrorist tried to shoot up Garland, Texas. They didn't get very far from what I heard.
Cos a trained SWAT team shot them. Not a hillbilly yokel with an AR-15.
>>77892475
Islamic Terror could easily take out entire cities of millions if it goes unchecked.
>>77896076
BE
>>77893784
Go ahead.
>>77896076
Be
>this shitpostig emu kuck thinks gun control works
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html
>>77893496
>Every other country does it except the US, m9.
maybe try knowing what youre talking about before you post next time, champ.
>>77895980
Here you go, Pedro: http://www.aic.gov.au/dataTools/facts/weaponUseTrend.html. And these charts doesn't even do it per capita, which would make the decline EVEN MORE dramatic, seeing as our population has grown from 17 million to 24 million in the time covered.
>>77892475
i'd rather have 80,000 none muslim gun related deaths than let my people die by some sandnigger
>>77894134
>it's another Nanny state slave doesn't realize that giving up your rights to go from "low gun crime" to "low gun crime but you also can't own guns" isn't a good thing episode
This is getting boring, at this point Hiroshima should just replace the captcha with a bold image that just says "AMERICA DOES NOT NOR WILL IT EVER CARE ABOUT FOREIGN OPINIONS ON GUN CONTROL, GO BACK TO SHITPOSTING ABOUT HOW YOU STILL MATTER ON THE WORLD STAGE AND TOTALLY ARE'T JUST GLORIFIED AMERICAN PUPPET STATES" maybe that would get through to you """""people"""""
>>77892475
i died from gun violence and i dont approve of using me to push ur agenda delete this thread you C U CK
>>77895994
Source that these thefts are from gun owners now.
Telling me to Google isn't a source.
Also theft implies that the victim is not present or aware, otherwise it would be robbery.
Also according to the FBI, around 700k Motor vehicles are stolen a year. Almost 4 times as much as guns, despite there being over 350 million guns and just 260 million cars. Also cars are way larger and thus harder to steal.
Looks like we need tougher storage requirements for cars.
I'm not an american so it's not 'my' gun culture.
But why do you care?
>Regulation does not equal confiscatio
No, it leads to it.
https://youtu.be/FMiNHt13WRw
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
>Citing four separate studies between 1988-2004, the assessment from the Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council says crime victims who use guns in self-defense have consistently lower injury rates than victims who use other strategies to protect themselves (other strategies include stalling, calling the police or using weapons such as knives or baseball bats).
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense
>Hemenway finds more reliable an annual federal government research project, called the National Crime Victimization Survey, which yields estimates in the neighborhood of 100,000 defensive gun uses per year. Making various reasonable-sounding adjustments, other social scientists have suggested that perhaps a figure somewhere between 250,000 and 370,000 might be more accurate.
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2012a/commsumm.nsf/b4a3962433b52fa787256e5f00670a71/5de089825c00843e872579b80079912d/$FILE/SenState0305AttachB.pdf
>Upon interviewing convicted felons, these researchers found that
>74% indicated that burglars avoided occupied dwellings, due to fears of being shot
>57% said that most criminals feared armed citizens more than the police
>40% of the felons had been deterred from committing a particular crime, because they believed that the potential victim was armed
What kind of actual fucking retard do you have to be to vote to have your rights taken away
>>77896076
The gun buyback happened in mid-95 lel? No it didn't, it didn't finish until 97, and then the other laws regarding storage and licensing didn't fully impact until a few years after that. Now they're fully implemented, we're at RECORD LOWS. Even in total amounts, not even using per capita stats.
>>77896046
They were shot by a retired traffic officer helping out in the parking lot.
You fucking liar.
>>77896328
>The decline in Australian gun violence proves that gun control works!
>The decline in American gun violence proves nothing, though!
>>77892475
Suicide and accidents aren't violence.
>>77896267
Every other DEVELOPED country, champ. Reminder, these are average Americans, remember this when dealing with them, fellow 4chan users: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
>>77896441
EVERYONE is at record low, especially the US even tho they now have 350 MILLION GUNS!
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
http://ivn.us/2012/07/23/doj-study-fails-show-1994-assault-weapons-ban-worked/
http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/WP-Tough-Targets.pdf
>>77896328
Looking at this I can't really say gun control reduced crimes as much as it reduced crimes with firearms, it seems like people simply switched to other means.
Plus there's a general decline in every crime wich is probably due more efficient police forces than the gun regulations themselves.
>>77896436
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/fshbopc0510pr.cfm
It appears that 1.4 million crims weren't deterred in this article though lel. In just 6 years, your lax laws allow 1.6 million guns onto the black market. WHAT THE FUCK, m9.
>>77896528
>implying we dont already have background checks
>implying theyre not less than useless
i literally greentexted your words you stupid nigger. feel free to stay mad as fuck about laws that you will literally never have a say in, though.
>>77896636
Fuck off
>>77896636
It's a big country you dumb shit
>>77896528
Reminder you can go to jail for using a knife to kill someone armed with a gun who broke into your families home in our countries. Reminder you can go to jail for posting certain opinions on twitter in our countries.
15,000+ Police surveyed on Gun Control. Turns out they dont like gun control much and feel safer when citizens are armed.
Article
http://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-Policies/
PDF with all the questions asked to officers and results:
https://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf
Link to picture with some of the results if you dont want to see the whole PDF
http://i.imgur.com/XhnFy6C.jpg
>>77896779
86 percent feel the currently proposed legislation would have no effect or a negative effect on improving officer safety
Similarly, 92 percent feel that banning semi-automatic firearms, or “assault weapons,” would have no effect or a negative effect on reducing violent crime
Demonstrating the opinion that the best way to combat gun crime is through harsher punishment, 91 percent said the use of a firearm while perpetrating a crime should lead to a stiff, mandatory sentence with no plea bargains. Likewise, 59 percent believe increasing punishment severity for unlicensed dealers would reduce crime
Respondents were more split on background checks, with 31 percent agreeing that mental health background checks in all gun sales would help reduce mass shootings, while 45 percent disagreed
71 percent support law enforcement leaders who have publicly refused to enforce more restrictive gun laws within their jurisdictions
82 percent believe gun buyback or turn-in programs are ineffective in reducing the level of gun violence
91 percent support the concealed carry of firearms by civilians who have not been convicted of a felony and/or have not been deemed psychologically incapable
Likewise, 80 percent feel that legally-armed citizens would likely have reduced the number of casualties in recent mass shooting incidents
38 percent believe the biggest cause of gun violence in the United States is the “decline in parenting and family values”. This was trailed by “overly lax parole and short sentencing standards” at 15 percent and “pop culture influence” (eg. violent movies and video games) at 14 percent
>>77896581
Funnily enough US gun ownership is at record lows: http://www.ibtimes.com/american-gun-ownership-falls-record-low-survey-1841600.
Guess when it was highest? The 1980s, also coincidentally when the homcide rate was South Africa-tier lol.
>>77896636
didnt an aussie biker gang just get busted selling a shitload of high quality home made firearms less than a year ago?
>>77892475
most of those are minorities so its okay. you need to do more research
>>77896802
>he actually thinks american gun owners admit to owning guns on surveys
>laughingwhores.jpg
>>77894134
Try to buy a gun at a show without FFL/background check and the whole convention floor will be laughing at you.
>>77896802
>implying someone calling you on the phone and asking if you have a gun is an accurate representation of firearm ownership
You're pretty fucking stupid if you think that.
>>77896802
Feinstein to Introduce Assault Weapons Ban Bill
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/16/feinstein-to-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-bill/
Gun Control Plotted By Jews
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=174
Jewish Groups and Lawmakers Seeking Gun Control Get Major Boost from Obama
http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-backs-california-senators-assault-weapons-ban-as-jewish-groups-work-toward-gun-control/
Jewish Groups Urge Senate to Pass Gun Control Legislation
http://www.jta.org/2013/04/11/news-opinion/united-states/jewish-groups-urge-senate-to-pass-gun-control-legislation
Jewish Gun Control Backers Plan New Push
http://forward.com/articles/175270/jewish-gun-control-backers-plan-new-push/?p=all
Jewish Politicians Lead Chorus Calling for Tighter Gun Laws
http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-politicians-join-chorus-calling-for-tighter-gun-laws/
Jews and Jewish Organizations Lead the Gun Control Campaign
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/01/jews-and-jewish-organizations-lead-the-gun-control-campaign/
Jews Lead Gun Control Charge
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=783
Major Hollywood Producer Vows to Make the NRA 'Wish They Weren't Alive' With Upcoming 'Big Movie'
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/15/major-hollywood-producer-vows-to-make-the-nra-wish-they-werent-alive-with-upcoming-big-movie/
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg Demands a Plan for Gun Control
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/17/new-york-mayor-michael-bloomberg-gun-control
Rabbi Michael Lerner: Banning Guns is Necessary But Not Sufficient
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-michael-lerner/banning-guns-is-necessary_b_2308272.html
Rahm Emanuel Calls for Nationwide Assault-Weapons Ban
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/rahm-emanuel-calls-for-nationwide-assault-weapons-ban/
Senator Schumer Wants Your Guns!
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=631
Who is Behind Gun Control?
http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/
Reminder this kuck is probably a hooked nosed kike
>>77892475
> 95% of gun deaths in US are Niggers killing eachother
> Implying we give a fuck about Niggers
Suck cock in hell Chucklefuck
>>77896779
>http://www.policeone.com/corporate-profile/press-releases/6188461-PoliceOne-com-Releases-Survey-of-15-000-Law-Enforcement-Professionals-about-U-S-Gun-Control-Policies/
>>77896795
Imagine if we lived in a world where these kind of things actually mattered to liberals. Where they could read this, consider it, and be willing to change their opinion. Unfortunately we do not live in this world and people like OP are everywhere.
>>77896611
There are reductions in total numbers amongst all areas and weapons. Adjust this for the population increase and the falls are massive. For example, our homicide rate was 2/100,000 in the 90s. It's now halved to 1/100,000. Obviously people aren't switching to new weapons. And if anything, new reporting requirements and police accountability initiatives would have increased the amount of crimes reported, but because so few now happen, it hasn't. If anyone tried to loosen our gun laws now, it'd be political suicide. Even otherwise spastic right-wingers realise how good they've been, we've essentially eliminated gun violence from our country. The 30 or so gun homicides per year (amongst a population of 24 million) are almost exclusively committed amongst random bikie gang members and are literally of no concern to the general public.
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html
No reply to this because he has no argument
While OP is Jewing around I'd just like to remind everyone with sense that there is no correlation between firearm ownership and homicide.
>>77896669
They're useless cos they don't cover private sellers or even certain sellers at gun shows lel. You keep making my points, and also confirming what that video I posted already tells us.
>>77897053
because "gun violence" is worse than other forms of violent crime how exactly?
>>77897085
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
>>77897119
Feelings
>>77897111
kek. how do you actually intend to stop two people from exchanging private property again? the details got a little shakey when you claimed to be able to control 300m+ firearms.
>>77897195
Magic government powers
>>77896803
>Home made firearms
>high quality
Pick one m9. If they're resorting to making them themselves, that's proof the laws work. Home made ones are more likely to blow off the users hand than actually fire properly: http://ssaa.org.au/news-resources/firearms-industry/victoria-police-warns-of-homemade-pipe-guns/.
The cops in this article are warning about the dangers of the guns injuring the users, not anyone else lel. Imagine if all the Orlando shooter could have got was a pipe gun that blew his his hand off instead of firing..
TOLD YOU THE "LIBERALS" WERE ANTI-SEMITIC!
Deaths by Islam: less than 100
Death by NIGGERS: over 80,000
fixed you
>>77892475
guns are necessary for a free society. what are muslims necessary for?
>>77897320
>you cant make high quality firearms at home
jesus christ, how can a person even be this uninformed?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
>>77897320
Welcome to 2016 kike
https://youtu.be/bjasSGZd40s
>>77897053
Interesting, thanks for the explanation.
Here in italy we have a pretty fair gun control, it's not overly hard to get one but you must prove you can use it, nobody near you can get hurt with it and you and people who could access said gun aren't crazy/addicts.
For example having served in the army I can easily get a licence and ask for a permit to own a gun, but I would probably be denied in the end because I have no safe place to store it in and my sister occasionaly comes with my niece for a visit.
>>77895660
There are more violent crimes in summer than winter.
Also this chart shows raw data, not per-capita. If the data isn't represented per capita, it's rubbish.
Australia's violent crime rate per capita is currently the lowest it has ever been.
Still no reply
http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html
>>77895660
Summerfags
Huh, really makes you think...
>>77893496
The fuck we don't.
Ifin the koala's dick falls out of your mouth again, feels free to shut the fuck up about something you know nothing about.
>>77897550
>expecting gun grabbers to reply to statistics
You'll die of old age before he acknowledges your data.
>>77897085
Nice inclusion of 3rd world countries on your chart m9, the only way the US' murder rate looks in any way reasonable. Fyi Burundi has a lower murder rate than the US.
But I digress, you are straw-manning to the extreme, as you do not comprehend what I am actually saying in my post. My post is about gun REGULATION, not ownership. And there is a definite correlation between that and homicide rates. Every 1st world country has far tighter restrictions on guns than the US, and has resultingly 4-5x lower homicide rates without fail. Even Switzerland, the NRA's favourite country, has far tighter restrictions. It's illegal to carry a loaded gun in public there, and, as part of their mandatory military service, all citizens undergo criminal and mental health checks when they turn 18, and undergo extensive training on safe gun use and storage.
Amerilard BTFO.
>>77897678
I know
>>77897462
what am I watching
>>77892475
whats wrong with banning muslims?
show me what they contribute to our society go on ill wait...
>"""more diversity""" is NOT a valid answer
>>77896859
I mean, you can literally do that without any problems. Some writer for the NYT went to a gunshow a couple years back with nothing but cash and ended up walking out with tons of weapons, ammunition, and a handful of fucking grenades.
>>77897719
>implying niggers aren't 3rd world tier
>>77893071
>>77897770
muh humanist moral highground
>>77897787
>grenades
I don't believe be you
>>77892475
Fuckin hell lads
>>77897195
To sell a gun, you have to advertise it you absolute spastic aka the cops can see you selling it too. And you don't have to control all 300 million, just make sure that mental cases and edgelords who want to shoot up schools and gay clubs can't get them. Which Australia has done, and the US has embarrassingly failed at.
>>77897767
Freedom
>>77897937
>To sell a gun, you have to advertise it
No you don't
When I bought my 1911 from my cousin he never advertised it
>>77897937
>To sell a gun, you have to advertise it you absolute spastic aka the cops can see you selling it too
>you don't have to control all 300 million
oh, so youre literally delusional?
>>77897937
>To sell something, you have to advertise it!
Holy shit you are dumb. Do criminals put out television ads for crack?
>>77897550
>http://www.gunsandcrime.org/auresult.html
I prefer actual statistics, not a random blog that looks like it's from 1995: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-31329220.
You don't see me citing the Socialist Worker and expecting people to take me seriously, do you?
>>77897937
>just make sure that mental cases and edgelords who want to shoot up schools and gay clubs can't get them.
Ok. So how do you control thos 300 million guns to make sure they can't? Holy fuck stop embarrassing yourself
>>77898068
You can't sell crack, that's illegal.
>>77898068
Nah, but cops still seem to bust a lot of them anyway, that's why you have the highest prison population in the world. Also, didn't you manage to control the late 80s/early 90s crack epidemic with better laws and enforcement? Same can happen with guns. Keep making my points for me, Amerilards.
>>77898089
>I prefer actual statistics
>Like these ones that show knife crime rise faster than gun crime falls
>>77898089
>attacks sourced data
>posts an unsourced image
>>77898176
>moving the goal posts this hard
What's it like to have to constantly move from argument to argument like a refugee? Does it feel bad? I wouldn't know.
Do you want me to keep proving that there's no correlation between firearm ownership and homicide? Ah, who am I kidding? I'm doing this to spite you. Filthy Australian cattle.
>>77898176
>Nah, but cops still seem to bust a lot of them anyway
this is just getting more embarrassing for aussies with every post
>>77898098
How would have the Columbine shooters got guns if it weren't for the US' lax laws? And the Virginia Tech shooter? And the Batman shooter? They were all middle class white/asian boiis with no criminal connections at all, their only access to guns was through legal means. Just like all our old mass shooters, when we had 14 public mass shootings in the 18 years before the 1996 law reforms. Now we've had none in 20 years HMMM I WONDER WHY? Fuck you're all retarded.
>>77898176
>that's why you have the highest prison population in the world
Like everything else that's niggers
OP is full of shit, and probably a jew.
100 people have been killed by Islam JUST SINCE ORLANDO and over 10,000 so far this year.
And his "gun violence" stats are bullshit, btw...
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2016
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
But mostly, I was just terrified.
Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News
>>77898315
>How would have the Columbine shooters got guns if it weren't for the US' lax laws? And the Virginia Tech shooter? And the Batman shooter?
In credibly fucking easily. There would have already been in their house from their families. Everyone they knew probably has one in their house. Every single house on the street has one.
They don't fucking vanish into thin air when you make it illegal.
>>77898189
Holy fuck, learn to read. That's just overall weapon use. Our actual murder rate is now 1/100,000 as opposed to 2/100,000 before the 1996 laws. Guns are now used in murders far and a 3x lower rate, and now we have 2x less murders overall. WOW, IT'S ALMOST AS IF GUNS ARE EASIER TO KILL PEOPLE WITH THAN KNIVES!
>>77898315
>mass shootings
>anything other than a practically meaningless statistical anomaly
its time to stop posting
>>77898315
>we've had no mass shootings in 20 years
The cognitive dissonance is real.
>>77898315
>Columbine shooters got guns legally
Holy shit the stupid hurts
Why must you lie?
>>77898277
See>>77897719
I've already BTFO this pathetic """"argument""". BURUNDI HAS A LOWER MURDER RATE THAN YOU, LET THAT SINK IN!
>>77898398
>crime is falling at literally the exact same rate it has been since before the ban
>this mean it worked, i swear
i cant even
>>77898387
Holy fuck, no they didn't. Actually look at any documentary around the Columbine massacre. They literally wrote in their diaries they wouldn't have been able to do the massacre if it wasn't for the US' gun laws, fyi they got them legally at a gun show from a dealer who wasn't required to do any background checks. Literally could never happen in Australia. And the others all lived out of home, thus family having guns would be irrelevant even if they had them. YOU'RE RETARDED.
>>77898399
Terrorism is even more of a meaningless statistical anomaly, which is the exact point of this thread :^). Time to kill yourself.
>>77898467
Those are states, friend. Why are you calling states countries? You did actually look at the graph, right?
Oh dear, I'm embarrassed for you.
>>77898467
4.2 isn't lower than 3.9
>>77898631
There are more guns in America than there are people. It is virtually impossible to be alive in America and not know someone with a gun. They do not disappear when you make it illegal, and you haven't addressed that. You keep shifting the topic here. HOW DO YOU CONTROL THE 300 MILLION GUNS ALREADY INSIDE AMERICA RIGHT NOW IN THE HOMES OF ALMOST EVERYONE
They don't just fucking disappear. Address this issue and don't change it to some irrelevant Australia statistic
>>77898631
they couldnt have leaglly bought the handgun and also cut the shotgun down to an illegal length, on top of those dozens of illegal pipe bombs. im sure more laws wouldve solved the problem though :^)
>>77898693
have you considered that we just dont like shitskins in our country :^)
>>77892475
Port Arthur was a bullshit excuse to disarm your country.
>>77897719
Would you prefer literally all countries?
>3000 dead in 9/11
>50 dead in orlando
>san berdino
Etc
It's not 'under 100'
>>77898631
They actually had somene else buy them for them you lying nigger
By the way they broke the fucking law doing so
>more laws will fix it!
>>77892475
>gun bans worked for france
>this is what aussies believe
guns don't kill people, mudshits kill people with guns
or bombs
or knives
or whatever
>>77898494
>>77898494
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=1502
"Not only were Australia's post-Port Arthur gun laws followed by a decade in which the crime they were designed to reduce hasn't happened again, but we also saw a life-saving bonus: the decline in overall gun deaths accelerated to twice the rate seen before the new gun laws," says study lead author, Professor Simon Chapman."
Also
>assuming trends last for extended periods
The US's homicide rate was declining at a fast rate until 2000; in the 16 years since it's barely moved and is still 3rd world.
BTFO
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DATING A KYKE GIRL..
bro told me about the lip thing, she's quiet about her status.. asked her and she came out, shes adopted. p00r jew status..
BUT SHES CUTE..
will she kill me for my.. non existent slovak money bros? can i harnus her jew power to save god emperor trump?
in before i already hate moosiez spics kykes and niggers fucking lost
>>77899022
>the decline in overall gun deaths
>overall gun deaths
>not overall violent crime
>not even overall murders
>laughingevenharder.jpg
see
>>77897119
>>77898712
HOLY FUCK, LEARN TO READ. Why are you talking about gun ownership? I never mentioned it, I'm talking about regulation. And state laws are literally irrelevant (e.g most of Chicago's guns actually come from Missouri), I'm talking about national regulation that can't be bypassed by driving 20km over state lines. Actually come back with an argument next time :^).
>>77893071
just shows the US has done a good job at preventing terrorism. doesnt mean they should now make themselves more susceptible to terrorist attacks
>>77895382
>homicide wasn't a problem and remained not a problem with no change
>>77899172
>gun ownership doesn't matter it's the laws that matter
Retard alert
>>77899172
>e.g most of Chicago's guns actually come from Missouri
the official unsourced claim was indiana, actually, you dumb cuck. time to read up on your propaganda
>>77899022
>The US's homicide rate was declining at a fast rate until 2000; in the 16 years since it's barely moved and is still 3rd world.
Which laws caused that?
>>77899172
oh, and its already a federal crime to sell a handgun to someone who lives in a different state. not that i actually expect you to know what youre talking about at this point
>>77896802
This survey explained
>hello do you own guns
>fuck off
Gun ownership is up among all demographics with record gun sales in 2014 iirc.
>>77899172
You aren't entitled to accept that there is no correlation between firearm ownership and homicide while concluding at the same time that a lack of background checks causes homicide.
All you bed wetting libs are moving to Canada anyway? Don't like guns? Leave, it's part of this country's identity, and that should have been very obvious to you by now. Move to your containment country and do whatever you will, it's for the best for both sides, everyone wins.
>>77898734
I know a lot of Americans, as heaps of them come to my Uni on exchange. If I asked them to get me an illegal gun from a gangster, they couldn't, they'd have no idea even where to start. If they wanted to get one from a shop, they could with incredible ease. You don't have to control all the crims, they mostly shoot each other. But you CAN control the mass shootings done by random suburban white boiis, which literally dominate debate around guns in America, and are a far bigger threat than terrorism. The Virginia Tech shooter couldn't have got a gun in Australia. Make it the same in America, it's simple.
In terms of long-term control, introducing better storage requirements would help massively. Most illegal guns are stolen from """responsible gun owners"" (1.6 million from 2000-06 alone). Reforming Australian storage laws led to 5-fold decline in gun thefts, thus stemming the flow of black market guns. Do the same in the US and you'll see the same effect, making it far easier for cops to actually reduce the amount of illegal weapons in circulation. Overall the US is pretty fucked, and will never see Australian-level crime levels, but you can at least MAKE AN EFFORT!
>>77899162
Oh yeah, our homicide rate dropping from 2/100,000 to 1.0/100,000 is no decline? And our violent crime being at record lows is no decline? Fuck you guntards are pathetic, you're at least 5th person I've had to set right on this matter in this thread alone. Just because I don't mention every single category of crime in a particular post doesn't mean any category I didn't mention has gone up HOLY FUCK.
>You didn't mention the US homicide rate in your post, thus I must assume it's gone up 2000%!!!
Literally the retarded logic I'm having to deal with here.
>>77899623
Nice anecdotal evidence. Too bad the real stuff contradicts it.
If you asked an American to get a gun, they could. You are having a fucking laugh if you say other wise. Gun control is completely fucking pointless because it won't stop a single person from being able to get a gun..
>>77897320
>Home made firearms
>high quality
pic related
>>77899623
THEY don't know how because THEY don't belong to criminal gangs nor do they have to put the time into learning where to get guns illegally since they can purchase guns the responsible way.
The question YOU should be asking them is if they know how to get drugs that are illegal.
Most Americans know how to do that. Because to get drugs we can't just walk into a fucking store. We have hook ups and connections which are linked to gangs the further back you track the source.
>>77899623
Why is it that you tell me that you were never arguing about firearm ownership, then turn around and start preaching about the availability of firearms the instant you think I'm not paying attention anymore?
>last 10 years
How conveniant
>>77899263
Not one argument, SAD!
>>77899247
Wasn't a problem compared to US 3rd-world rates lel, 2/100,000 is massively high by 1st world standards now, luckily we reduced it to 1.0/100,000, aka amongst the lowest in the entire world; bar Japan it's the lowest for a country with a population over 20mil I believe.
>>77899777
>being intentionally dense
GUN CRIME DROPPING DOESNT MATTER IF OVERALL CRIME ISNT DROPPING AT AN ACCELERATED RATE YOU STUPID NIGGER.
>>77899623
>storage requirements
How do you do this without violations to our right to privacy?
>>77899272
Nothing has to cause it, it's just that trends are not infinite; sometime rates just hit a wall, especially the lower they get. The US shows that. Thus assuming that Australia's current rate is a result of an early 90s trend is entirely specious.
>>77899801
>accuses me of having anecdotal evidence
>responds with anecdotal evidence
At least I can back my claim up, not a single mass shooting in the US has been committed with black market guns purchased from crims. That's a fact. And as I've said, the Columbine shooters and even Chris Dorner the Cop Killer specifically stated it was the US' lax laws that allowed them to carry out their crimes. Try harder, eyy.
>>77899887
Not one argument against
>>77896436
>>77896590
>>77896969
>>77896795
>>77896779
Sad
I'm a simple man...
I see an Australian flag.
I avoid and SAGE
>>77899974
Do you actually believe that crime rates are random? Is that how you reconcile your beliefs with the facts that contradict them? You tell yourself that the rate of homicide just does whatever it wants?
>>77900095
>believing a fake manifesto
gun control can't work in the 21th century
/thread
>>77900273
btw, it has never worked. What I'm saying is if it didn't work before, much less now.
>>77899842
Why are burgers unable to appreciate rhetorical nuance? You can be for regulation, but not against ownership. For example, Switzerland literally gives away guns to it's citizens, and I have no problem with that. That's because before they do (as part of their mandatory military service) they conduct mental health and criminal checks. If they pass this (20% of the population don't) they also get extensive training on the safe use and handling of weapons. Do you appreciate my point? I don't care people have guns, I just don't want homicidal retards to have them, and I want them to be stored in a manner so you don't end up with 200,000 being stolen every year. It's really quite simple.
>>77900317
What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?
>>77899915
Oh the irony. You do realise that I'm quoting overall homicide rates? I know the numbers are unbelievably low compared to burgers, but they're the truth. FYI our gun homicide rate is 0.13/100,000. You should feel quite stupid right now.
>>77900382
yes, its dropped at the exact same rate it has been since before the gun confiscation. weve already been over this. try to keep up.
>>77900317
>still hasn't said how storeage laws would be enforced without violating a right to privacy
Cuck
>>77900317
>You can be for regulation, but not against ownership
Just like how you can tell people you aren't arguing against ownership while arguing against ownership? Have some dignity and at least avoid contradicting yourself in one single thread. You claim to be tolerant towards gun ownership but once that claim shunts the heat off of you, you go right back to saying things like "This mass shooting wouldn't have happened if this guy had been unable to obtain his gun!"
Somewhere in the world, an unbiased citizen is reading your hypocrisy and disapproving. Remember that.
>>77900317
Even faggots are less retarded than you
>>77900153
Way to not understand my argument. I was merely stating that sometimes trends end. There was a global trend of lower crimes in the 90s, due to a multitude of factors (more abortions, video games distracting otherwise criminal youth etc.). These factors can only have so much impact before the trends plateau, as they did in the US. Australia had even more factors reducing crime, most notably restricting criminals access to firearms (they are now stolen at a 5x lower rate than before the 1996 laws), and thus our trend continued.
>>77900095
But the Columbine shooters got their guns illegally through straw purchase...
>>77892475
> the 3000 deaths of 9/11 never happened
OY VEY
I don't care about the muslim mass murders now, that's not why I want them banned, I want them banned because they as muslims believe in homosexual murder, athiest murder, apostate murder, slavery, sex with children etc.. And those are what they would try to change the laws into. See Britain, what does the first muslim mayor do? He bans pictures of uncovered women because he is a muslim. I don't want to live in a muslim controlled world, and so all muslims need to be deported from the countries with power, aka western countries. Also eventually, it won't just be some few change of laws, it will be full out genocide of non-muslims as we saw in Turkey, Nigeria, Sudan and everywhere else.
>>77900677
>abortions and video games
I'm very tired. Please do not sit there and tell me that abortions and video games caused the rates of firearm homicide and homicide in total to plummet. Are you actually trying to tell me that people used to commit murder because they were bored, or because they existed? What caused the increase in crime rates to begin with? Too many lemonade stands? Not enough ladders?
>>77899887
>our vast expansive nothingness produces vast amounts of nothingness
It was around 300, and stayed around 300
10/10 straya, ill turn my country into a barren wasteland and im sure itll all turn out grand.
>>77900876
I'm done with this retard, time for bed it's 4am
You can keep arguing with his dumb ass but he will never reply to the links I posted because he can't.
his hook nosed kike overlords won't let him
G'night
>>77900448
I feel like I'm going in circles. The 90s declining trend was global and is not related to the Australian 2000s trend. The US also had massive declines in the 90s. They stopped about 16 years ago. Australia's have continued to decline to this day, as the full effect of the licensing and storage laws have been felt. Try harder.
At the very least, you have to admit that the NRA's claims that tighter gun laws lead to "only the outlaws having guns" is entirely false, don't you? Your entire argument has been "yeah your crime rates in all areas have dropped massively, and you're way safer than us, b-b-but there's a tiny chance it could have happened anyway, if you ignore the fact the US's formerly concurrent declining trend stopped almost 20 years ago"
>>77900455
RETARD ALERT, RETARD ALERT!
You're exactly the person who I imagine votes for Trump. You have such a massively unsophisticated view of the world you can only see the world in binary "hurr durr you don't support completely unfettered access to whatever guns anyone wants? THAT MEAN'S YOU DON'T WANT ANYONE AT ALL TO OWN GUNS!"
It's painful reading you imbecilic responses.
>>77901086
>At the very least, you have to admit that the NRA's claims that tighter gun laws lead to "only the outlaws having guns" is entirely false, don't you?
saged
>>77901241
You don't understand the 2nd amendment m8. The point of it is that people can overthrow a tyrannical government. Therefore, the government has no right to restrict the right of the people to bear arms. It would be self defeating.
>>77892475
When was the last time a gun raped a 5 year old American girl and urinated on her? If you think terrorism is the only, and main, problem with Islamic "culture" you are subhuman yourself. The world is not laughing at America, the world is wondering where its fucking balls went.
>>77900750
They got an 18yo friend to buy it at a gun show. They even picked the guns out in front of the seller. Could not happen in Australia or the UK, and is entirely down to retarded US laws. They literally admitted it in their diaries, the Brady Laws almost stopped them from getting them. If it wasn't for the gun-show loophole, they wouldn't have got them.
>>77901086
oh, so you are actually capable of not moving the goalpost for one single response?
>implying our crime rates are in any way related
>implying your crime rates wouldnt have continued dropping regardless of changes in gun laws
>implying our violent crime rate doesnt become comparable to western europe when niggers alone are removed
my argument is that your gun laws have no bearing on your overall violent crime rate, and never have. there is no difference in the rate of change in your crime rates between now and before the ban. saying it was your gun laws that made them continue to fall is the opposite of a logical conclusion. if you change a variable and get the same result you can rule OUT that variable as the cause of change. comparing two countries with vastly different cultures, laws, and demographics is nothing less than grasping at straws,
>>77901241
When threatened, the Australian reverts to "Banter Mode", desperate to fend off its attackers. It abandons its pretensions of civility and resorts to its most base instincts.
In case you're wondering why your response is invalid: You say one thing then do another. When I face you with this fact, you indignantly declare that you've been saying one thing this entire time. Do you get what I'm telling you? Look at the part of my post where I accuse you of doing something that you say you do not. Maybe then you will understand me more.
>>77892475
>No link to source
>Australia
opinion discarded
>>77901575
>They got an 18yo friend to buy it at a gun show.
an 18 year old straw purchased a handgun in colorado. thats two felonies. please explain how more laws wouldve stopped this from happening.
>>77901598
Taking out every Black person and your homcide rate is still 2.5/100,000 (at the most generous estimate, some sources say 3.4) aka way higher than every other developed country.
And I have some nice evidence for you. Canada still has similar laws to us pre-1996. They also saw an ALMOST IDENTICAL decline from 2/100,000 in the early 90s to around 1.7-8 by 2000. However, their rate has only dropped to 1.5/100,000 since then, 50% less than Australia's. They have similar population, demographics and culture. The only difference is their gun laws. Their gun homicide rate is 5x higher than ours. Their overall homicide rate is 50% higher, when we were almost identical in overall rates and trends downwards in the 90s. Literally the only remaining factor is our gun laws.
Amerilards comprehensively BTFO
>>77901733
Easy, the gun seller wouldn't have sold it to the 18yo in the first place, are you retarded? The 18yo buying it was legal, it was only when they gave it away it became a crime. Try going to a gun show in Australia or the UK as a random 18yo and trying to buy some semi-autos on the spot, NOT GONNA HAPPEN, BUDDY!
>>77902273
You're suggesting that the Columbine Massacre wouldn't have happened if the shooters had obtained their weapons a little bit later?
You aren't contesting the fact that the 18-year-old was eligible to purchase firearms. You think that he would write down on some official form "I intend to give these to insane minors"? Background checks wouldn't predict his future actions, moron. Your current measures would do nothing.
>>77902120
>Taking out every Black person and your homcide rate is still 2.5/100,000 (at the most generous estimate, some sources say 3.4) aka way higher than every other developed country.
sty 1.55, retard.>>77897848
canadians have comparable gun laws to your own, actually. again, you should actually read up on other countries gun laws before you make claims about them.
>>77902273
> The 18yo buying it was legal
no it wasnt, actually. again demonstrating your wealth of knowledge on gun laws, i see.
>it was only when they gave it away it became a crime.
giving away a gun isnt a crime. see above
>Try going to a gun show in Australia or the UK as a random 18yo and trying to buy some semi-autos on the spot, NOT GONNA HAPPEN, BUDDY!
ill just buy them off the bikers.
fuck these countries with 0 guns and 0 rights
join the NRA if you really care about the 2nd amendment
or just go check out the videos and get smart about the issues.
>https://home.nra.org/
>>77902120
oh, and while were here, id like to point out that, once again, youre spouting bullshit and violent crime rates in the u.s. have been falling steadily for many years as well. which, of course, goes to show that violent crime rates have been falling in countries whos gun laws range from freedom tier to cucked aussie tier.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/1tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_1_crime_in_the_united_states_by_volume_and_rate_per_100000_inhabitants_1993-2012.xls
I really don't understand how some changed gun laws in America is going to change Islam. What does any of this have to do with banning a bunch of maniacs with stone age views so they don't try to change our country.
>>77902466
No, they just wouldn't be able to get them at all. My friends can get guns cos they live on farms and use them for hunting. You need to have a valid reason in the UK and Aus. Being a suburban white boii living in a middle class suburb with no crime is not a reason. Hence, no guns sold to mass-murdering autists, and no school/theatre/community college shootings here.
>>77902470
I comprehensively BTFO that wiki page in another thread. The 1.55 rate is arrived at by assuming that none of the 40% of unsolved murders (6000 of them per year) are committed by white people LOL. Completely retarded, hence why that meme picture is the only place you'll find that stat.
And you're saying that an adult cannot buy guns from a gun show? Cos they can. Was totally legal.
And nah, even bikers can't get real guns. They have to make shitty pipe ones that are more dangerous for the user than anyone else. And what do you think would happen if an autistic high schooler rocked up to a bikie clubhouse asking to buy guns? You're delusional. It doesn't happen, hence our lack of mass shootings.
>>77902864
what about countries with 0 guns and 1 rights
>>77902944
Your murder rate (most important violent crime by far) dropped from over 10/100,000 to 5/100,000 in the 90s. In the 16 years since, it's dropped only to 4.5/100,000. If you'd continued your 90s trend (as Australia has) you'd literally have a rate of 0 lel ( we are almost below 1/100,000 atm fyi). But no, you just can't stop shooting each other at 3rd-world levels.
>>77903310
what rights do you have that cant be easily stripped from you with no way to defend yourself against people who do have guns? (monopoly on violence)
>>77903214
You know that people in the suburbs can hunt, right? You don't have to live on a farm to do it.
>>77903214
>>77903684
the 2nd amendment of the US constitution has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.
Were free, Australia is a death camp.
>>77903214
>I comprehensively BTFO that wiki page in another thread.
yeah, and im sure you think youve comprehensively btfo everyone in this thread too you idiot.
>And you're saying that an adult cannot buy guns from a gun show? Cos they can. Was totally legal.
cant buy a handgun if youre under 21 in colorado. good to see youre going strong on your knowledge of gun law though.
>And nah, even bikers can't get real guns. They have to make shitty pipe ones that are more dangerous for the user than anyone else.
even an idiot like you could figure out how to safely build an open bolt pistol... well, maybe not you, but most idiots.
>what do you think would happen if an autistic high schooler rocked up to a bikie clubhouse asking to buy guns?
i bought guns off of gang members when i was an autistic highschooler
>>77903406
easily explained by niggers. congratulations, youre caught up to todays crime rates and how they have nothing to do with firearm ownership rates.
>>77903823
Yeah, yeah. Giving the government the power to decide what you may or may not own based on arbitrary distinctions that it determines is already loss. But can you ever expect this Australian to realize how sorry the state of his government is? He's beyond such high ideals.
>>77899623
lol, and here's the part where you reveal you're just a racist
"white boiis" are exactly are their proportion of mass shooters -- about 60%, look it up
plus some of the "white boiis" were obvious false flags, like Sandy Hook
>>77903684
The police assess each claim and gun license. None of the autists who commit your mass shootings would pass. Now, we used to let autists have guns. Martin Bryant, the Port Arthur gunman was a confirmed retard/autist, as was Julian Knight, the dude who did the Hoddle St massacre a few years earlier. In the 20 years since Port Arthur, no autists have gone on rampages. Do you think the autists have disappeared? No, if anything there's more of them. It's just they can't get semi-automatic rifles anymore, it's as simple as that.
>all these retards falling for bruce's bait
nice one fella
>>77904023
you dont know what you are talking about. its as simple as that.
>>77904176
we dont do it to convince the person we argue with. we do it for the newfags and the undecided. and for FUN
>>77904023
I don't think you quite understand. We're talking about the friend of the Columbine shooters buying the guns. Not the Columbine shooters. If the friend were a hunter, what would have happened?
And this is all moot anyway because you can't prove anything regarding the foundations of your beliefs, but you seem to have gotten bored of defending yourself a long time ago.
>>77892475
100 completely unnessecery deaths compared to 80k nessecery sacrifices for the maintainence of a healyily armed civil society.
Completely uncomparable cathegories. You're retarded
>>77903829
>yeah, and im sure you think youve commprehensively btfo everyone in this thread too you idiot.
It's not hard when the crux of your argument is an annotated wikipedia screenshot, LOL. Go on, try to find any other sources that corroborate it. The warning sign should have been when you read the part on it that said the 1.55 rate "included non-white Latinos" too.
And luckily the 18yo bought them a carbine and 2 shotguns instead, hence she never faced charges.
Nope, literally the police here are more concerned about the users of the home made guns. They've never been used in a crime here: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/homemade-shotguns-in-melbourne-drug-world-sparking-police-fears/news-story/4c6b0aceb62e3cf7a9b43a32c93f31f0?nk=7f44b639f3ce369a8752d04f8cf0b9b7-1466418980
“They are very dangerous.”
They posed the biggest hazard to those who used them, typically low-end type criminals.
“They are very much likely to blow up in someone’s face,” Supt Bateson said.
Bit hard to do a massacre with that sort of equipment. But in any case, there's literally never been a single case of bikies selling guns to kids. In fact, kids are the ones who sell them the shitty exploding pipe guns.
>Easily explained by niggers
Except it's not. Blacks only commit 45% of murders. Your homicide rate is 450% higher than Australia's. Gonna need more than a 45% reduction to catch up with the rest of the world, m8.
>>77893071
your meme arrow is pointing the wrong way
>>77904274
NICE ARGUMENT! Oh wait, you got comprehensively BTFO, my mistake.
