Just how dumb are the people that love guns?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/19/ohio-gun-shop-owner-killed-during-concealed-carry-class.html
I'll make leftists a deal.
When 1% of the population is killed by guns yearly, we can talk about banning them.
Just 1%. Should be an easy hurdle to clear considering how convinced people are that guns are killing millions of people a year.
>>77876447
2 airplanes and now we all get hand raped by tsa.
How about you stop trying to hide big numbers inside of small proportions, faggot.
>>77876770
>implying the TSA wasn't created as a huge job creation program
>>77876447
>something has to kill millions before its deemed unnecessary
You sir should be proud. This is the dumbest thing i have read all fucking summer so far.
>>77876770
>10,000 a year
>most are black gang related
I don't see the problem senpai
>>77877111
Middle ground defensive gun uses are at 1 million annually
Not including the initial deterrence of an armed population
>>77877278
how many in 711? 3k? In one year.
Insta TSA rape.
>>77876770
It's like 30K total deaths a year, with most of them being suicides.
Most math would round it down to zero.
>>77877111
Just asking for a tiny percentage.
You are legitimately more likely to be struck by lightning than shot.
>>77876770
>We made changes to this thing that's not a protected part of the Bill of Rights
What a surprise
>>77877111
t. Freedom Hating Cuckold Faggot
Inhale my bratwurst
>>77876208
Fact: Firearm misuse causes only a small number of accidental deaths in the U.S. 1 For example, compared to being accidentally killed by a firearm, you are:
Five times more likely to burn to death
Five times more likely to drown
17 times more likely to be poisoned
17 times more likely to fall to your death
And 68 times more likely to die in an automobile accident
Fact: In 2007, there were only 54 accidental gun deaths for children under age 13. About 12 times as many children died from drowning during the same period. 2
Fact: In 2007, there were 999 drowning victims and 137 firearm-related accidental deaths in age groups 1 through 19. This despite the fact that firearms outnumber pools by a factor of more than 30:1. Thus, the risk of drowning in a pool is nearly 100 times higher than dying from a firearm-related accident for everyone, and nearly 500 times for children ages 0-5. 3
ACCIDENTAL GUN DEATHS - U.S. Accidental Firearm Death Rate 1981 through 2013Fact: Medical mistakes kill 400,000 people per year – the equivalent of almost three fully loaded Boeing 747 jet crashes per day – or about 286 times the rate of all accidental firearm deaths. 4 This translates into 1 in 6 doctors causing an accidental death, and 1 in 56,666 gun owners doing the same.
>>77876770
Show me the right to ride on planes amendment in the bill of rights and get the fuck out of my country you communist faggot nigger kike.
>>77876959
Hey I was working airport security prior to 9/11 (and on, and shorty after) those jobs existed before TSA.
>>77876208
This wouldn't have happened if legislation didn't make it mandatory to take classes and buy a permit in order to fully exercise the human right to bear arms.
>>77878747
What communist shithole do you live in?
/k/ here
Someone stupid enough to ND straight into another person was guaranteed to kill someone one way or another, like by accidentally running into someone with a kitchen knife.
He should receive a stiff sentence for negligent homicide or something like that.
>>77878361
>constitution can't be amended
>amendments to constitution
>amendments
>to
>constitution
How do you not know the constitution is set up so we can change that shit whenever we want instead of having to listen to what some dumb dead guys are telling us to do?
>>77878631
Show me where the constitution can't be amended, you illiterate nigger.
>>77879156
Amendments can not change other Amendments
especially ones that say can not be infringed
>>77879156
How many of the anti gun faggots are calling for a constitutional convention in changing the RTKABA?
>>77879298
>Amendments can not change other Amendments
Actually yes they can
See prohibition
>>77879298
Wrong. Try again, faggot.
>>77879365
ah I see
>>77879431
Still cannot fully remove all guns
>>77879365
>>77879431
There is actually a yet to have been had constitutional debate over the second amendment, and if it can be changed or removed...
"Shall not be infringed" is VERY specific language.
>>77876208
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
But mostly, I was just terrified.
Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Gersh Kuntzman
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News
>>77879532
see prohibition
>>77879312
You mean, a right to amend an irrelevant piece of literature reading "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
it's not true that we need a well regulated militia. We have a professional military. Second, nothing about you fuck heads is regulated. You don't know shit about guns, how to use them, how to keep them- anything at a fucking all. 3rd, since the antecedent is false- the consequent does not follow. Therefore we should fucking infringe the right to keep and bear arms because we don't need a fucking militia you twat.
>>77879652
>"This is me after firing a Barrett .50" -Gersh Kuntzman
>According to the gun shop’s website, the class taught basic pistol safety, gave students range time and reviewed Ohio’s gun laws.
They teach basic pistol safety using loaded guns?
K.
>>77877111
>Banning precautions.
This isn't Minority Report.
>>77879708
0/10
The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:
1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."
1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."
1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."
1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."
1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."
1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
>be American
>need a class on how to hide a gun on his person
>the guy teaching the class somehow dies
>be American
>be against people who want to tear up the Second Amendment because they fear some violent gun owners
>but supports tearing up the First Amendment (freedom of religion) because he fears some violent religious nuts
>>77879926
>be a strawman argument
>be a fucking leaf
>>77879652
>kuntzman
>kunt
literally a pussy who can't fire a gun specifically designed to be easy for civilians
>>77879694
See
"Shall not be infringed"
Where are those words except for the second amendment
Do people not realize that most gun related killings are from illegally obtained weapons? Even if you ban guns, they'll still find a way to illegally obtain them.
>>77880048
You don't understand how amendments work
You can overwrite them with new ones.
>>77879926
>Be american
>Nigger runs up and points gun
>I cant do shit no gun! here take my walle.... BAMG BANG BANG
>police show up
>no police guns
>BANG BANG BANG
>Oh shit
3 dead Americans and one guilty nigger.
Thank god we banned guns.
>>77879532
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State
The antecedent is false. there is nothing about a well regulated militia that is necessary for our country- or freedom. We have a standing military. And the trailor trash gun owners aren't well regulated- are they? Every part of the 2nd amendment needs to go- it's fucking cave man drawings by people long dead.
>>77880137
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
>>77880146
see>>77879916
Your reading comprehension and understanding of the English language is shit.
>>77879708
The milita consists of all able bodied citizens.
Well regulated means we'll equipped.
And you're goddamn right were going to follow some "old stupid piece of paper" because that is what we have for a basis of government, you sniviling anarcho-communist shithead.
>>77879708
Constitutional convention + 3/4 states ratify or GTFO
If you hate the 2nd amendment so much, and have that 90% support you claim, this should be easy.
>>77880242
Pretty much this^
until then SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77880125
We haven't had a court case that discussed the very powerful, specific, and possibly immutable words of
"Shall not be infringed"
I do know how amendments work, if I didn't I wouldn't have passed freshman year of college. We take a course specific to the constitution all undergrad years.
>>77879813
Lol can you imagine what that dipshit would post after squeezing off a .50?
We need to goad him into doing it.
>>77880216
ALL black lives matter
>>77880146
This is just poor b7.
>>77880216
>>77880421
[citation needed]
>>77876208
Why doesn't the NRA file themselves or gather the willing members to join the NRM, national rifle militia(or something more appropriate)?
Ramifications too great?
Impossible obligations to fill?
Unable to do so under current law?
>>77876447
Their emotions won't allow them to understand stripping away rights on such a small number is a dumb thing to do
>>77880614
>to join the NRM, national rifle militia
The what? Why? Militia's are pretty fringe tier and the NRA is, believe it or not, very mainstream. They have no reason to associate or join with a militia.
>>77880495
all the proof i need nigga
>>77879813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFfqNCblmxo
>>77876208
Guess the Founding Fathers were dumb.
Guess gun lovers that helped build the country that allows you to act like an idiot were dumb.
You should really remember your roots, anon. Like guns or not, they help keep you safe from invaders and enemies.
>>77880614
Militias stay off the radar for a reason.
Why the fuck was there a live fucking round being loaded for a fucking malfunction drill? Who the fuck was the dildo-brained instructor? Who was the chucklefuck gun owner and murderer? This is just blatant stupidity.
Why the fuck was someone in a safety class with a loaded gun when they weren't at the actual range. Utterly stupid and I hope the idiot gets thrown in jail, there is no excuse for a ND in that situation.
>>77876208
>one accident happened
>in a country of 350 million people
>and half a billion guns
Stop the presses!
>>77879916
>It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected.
And that shows that militia are necessary- how? We currently don't rely on a militia as a basis for wars or armed conflicts we engage in- nor use them to supplement our standing professional military. Unlike the revolutionary war and civil war where untrained men who owned firearms were a huge beneficial part of military forces- not only do we not need untrained men since they would be a huge operational risk, but we generally don't allow combatants to bring their own weapons.
>>77880125
>overwriting the bill of rights
Might as well write a new constitution at that point.
>>77876770
>>77878045
It's like 60-65 percent of gun deaths are suicide. So that's like 20000 deaths. Which leaves 10k people in gun murders.
>>77880225
You mean like you don't understand the meaning of the word antecedent? You fucking nitwit.
>>77881690
Well under 10k at this point.
>>77880239
>>77880239
>The milita consists of all able bodied citizens.
Not relevant to current military practices. You aren't going to war untrained, and you aren't going to bring your own fucking gun. Are you fucking that stupid? Did you not fucking serve your country, you fat fuck?
>>77880242
Ez there monkey fucking aidsbus.
>>77876208
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama.html
Remember when Obama said he was signing an executive order on gun control not too long ago and there was a big hoopla about it? Where the fuck did the order go? Did he just drop it or what?
>>77876208
I think the real issue in our world is if we should ban cars for drunk driving accidents.
>>77881690
Its like 8k in 2013 (last year we have stats for) and its declining.
>>77882369
Not even drunk drivers. Cars are dangerous for sober people. But they aren't designed and intended to be instruments of destruction- like guns are. So we need them a little while longer. Soon as they can self drive- ban human drivers, fuck you reckless pigs.
Matter of fact, walk your ass to where you need to go. Give those fat hams some exercise.
>>77876208
If America ever hands of their guns that will signal the end of whatever freedoms you guys have left, literally inviting the elite to do whatever they wish with zero threat of a proper civil war or revolt.
>>77882599
I would have to walk five miles just to get to class
>>77882763
Na, people are starting to wake up to the bull shit of the political elite, even on the left (The Bernie People).
I think people realize that we're heading for some dark times and the last thing they want to do is give up their only defense against a roving gang of raping niggers.
>>77883014
Literally me in grad school. In the fucking snow. stop being a sissy.
>>77879267
Then amend it, stupid nigger. Beyond that, shut the fuck up.
>>77882763
the elites over here have more than boomerangs, knoives, and diggeridoos.
Rifles and handguns will literally do nothing vs our police or military.
>>77883211
I'd rather take a bike
>>77876208
It's a gun accident, just like a car accident
>>77881649
"The militia" is not a formal organization.
It is the entire able bodied citizenry of the United States and it's territories.
Just because you haven't experienced total war, doesn't mean we won't have one in the future. Having a strongly armed population is a massive deterrent to enemy threats.
>>77881867
Completely relevant.
Dealing with partisans is a massive factor in invasion scenarios.
>>77881808
Oh no, this is, like, horrible, you know, dude?
I mean, man, dude, really makes you go huh.
Like, let's ban guns, dude, I don't like them you know what I'm sayin?
Like dude.
>>77881649
Declaration of independence:
>"...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government..."
>>77883592
>Just because you haven't experienced total war, doesn't mean we won't have one in the future
These communists love to say "nobody will attack america" while they're trying to destroy it from the inside. And they'll lose so fucking bad no matter what.
I love America and their guns. It makes me extremely white supremacist comfy to know that there will never be fewer guns at the hands of Americans, only more.
>>77876208
It was a fucking accident.
No need to turn it into a god damn political fiasco.
>>77876208
You can take someone's weapons away, but you can never stop him from making them
>>77881808
>8-10 thousand murders by firearm per year in a population of 300,000,000
>epidemic
Liberals are lucky this issue has so many heart strings attached to it because the facts are extremely lacking.
>>77883847
>>77884392
An intelligent person yeah, someone with innovative potential yeah, but, the average idiot would be hard fuckin pressed to make a weapon like a gun or anything as close to as effective as a gun.
>>77885695
2 pipes, a nail and an endcap.
Fucking done.
Sneak up on a policeman, back of the head slam, now I have a policeman gun.
>>77883847
u spoz ta b cookin sumbdy brkfst in the mrnin...
w00t
>>77885944
yeah no fucking god damn shit, but, the average fucking moron on the street thinks eggs come from mcdonalds
>>77879365
>A class participant discharged a handgun while practicing weapon malfunction drills, the paper reported.
>The bullet passed through a wall and struck Baker.
thats why you practice your drills with fucking snap caps not live ammunition.
>>77886315
>>77876208
This happens after every high profile shooting as jumpy housewives and morons flock to buy guns and get cc licences.
>>77884605
"epidemic" implies growth in numbers, not just recurring annual murder rates.
>>77876770
>NOT ALL GUN OWNERS!
The irony of this double standard isn't lost on me.
