What's the best way to be a parent and raise a family?
What boundaries would you set such as premarital sex, who they hang out with and how overbearing you may be in regards to their social life?
>>77864126
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The best parenting method is to give your child mostly free reign while teaching them right from wrong. A lot of parents don't realize that children need to be able to make mistakes and learn from them. Coddling your child, not allowing them to control their lives and hitting them without clear explanation makes them useless fucks that browse 4chan.
>>77864485
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>>77864834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
>>77866598
I was clearly referring to myself and my own experiences there. Think first you dummy.
>and how overbearing you may be in regards to their social life?
What do you mean by this?
>>77864834
not the greatest idea, i knew right from wrong but was never punished and was using hard drugs at a young age, i freely chose to stop and now regret all the money lost and time wasted. A valuable life lesson but perhaps it could of been drilled into me without me having to learn for myself
>>77869204
I said that you should teach children that they've done something wrong right in my post.
>>77869204
A casual glance into psychological warfare will demonstrate that pretty much the whole world is using brainwashing metholodogies against you.
Shitsux but better that parents get some skin in that game. Glad you got out of it, friend.
>>77864485
>>77864126
>best way to raise a family
Use the bible
>what boundaries would you set
Whatever the bible tells me to do
>>77864126
>such as premarital sex
Only with her daddy. If it's just eith her daddy it doesn't count, she's still a pure maiden suitable for marriage.
>who they hang out with
No niggers
please post more cute christ-chans
>>77872927
This is disgusting
>>77873591
Why? Father/daughter is the purest form of love. And don't say "Bible says don't fuck your daughter", it says not to fuck your half-sister too but Abram married his half-sister. And I'm just talking about doing her when she's little.
>>77874268
Sex outside marriage is a sin, also you're disgusting hope you get thrown in prison
>>77874522
Ray "superjew" "hired by Google" "I want to become God" Kurzweil did write down in one of his wannabie Talmuds that one of the ways to get rid of the goyim who dindn't want to worship him would be to subvert them through their sexual desires.
Seduce them with computer women and perversion. It's true. He made a big point of that. You can't make this shit up.
>>77875015
This is why I believe pornography should be illegal, not only is it a sin to have lust for a woman but pornography encourages degenerate behaviour.
>>77875160
I don't know about making it outright illegal, but plastering it everywhere is clearly disgusting and not something any decent person would think of as a decent environment for children.
Maintaining some level of decency is kind of one of the cornerstones of any successful civilization.
>>77874522
>Sex outside marriage is a sin
"Sin" is a nebulous concept that relies on imaginary creatures giving us rules. Yes, sex outside marriage is bad, unless it's with her father. A girl belongs to her father until he gives her to her husband so it is fine if her dad messes around with her when she's little. It's not likw he's just some guy; he's her father, hr made her.
>>77875581
It should be illegal, it's a slippery slope this is why there's so many disgusting fetishes now, it's being normalised by porn.
>>77875688
Is something wrong with you or are you trolling?
>>77875797
Hardline prohibition doesn't have a very good track record. Horny kids are going to find a way around it. I don't know if you've been to any porn sites recently, but it really reflects how bad things have gotten when you notice the kind of advertising, what's popular, all the categories and things you'd never think of. Let alone what gets a pass for being seemingly legal or even just goes without being questioned. It's a frightening look into modern psychology.
Definitely a slippery slope, but we need smart solutions, not stupid solutions. When I grew up at least the sexually suggestive things were basically pointing you in the right direction.
>>77875797
Because I haven't been brainwashed into hating true love you think there must be something wrong with me? You're the one there is something wrong with.
>>77876416
It doesn't matter if it's smart or not it should be banned, yes people will find a way around it but is this a reason not to ban it? Should we use that excuse to make rape or murder legal? No of course not, pornography has no place in modern society. We are destroying future generations who are growing up believing the disgusting acts you see in pornographic videos are normal and suffering from porn and masturbation addiction
>>77876754
It's just that bans are counterproductive. See guns for instance. Muslims ban a lot of things pretty harshly, and then they're known for violating those bans under the table like mad.
Maybe we just have a difference of opinion about it. No need to say you're working for the devil if you listen to music and dance with girls. I say it's better to make a joyful noise and hope your son finds a nice girl to settle down with, and your daughter is having a good time in a safe environment.
>>77872927
>>77877132
It should be banned because it completely goes against everything in the bible
Having children is morally wrong.
>>77877223
>it completely goes against everything in the bible
That's no basis for law.
>>77877409
Kill yourself, anti-natalist scum.
>>77877223
Does it really? Or does it explain how and why lust is wrong, that we're all sinners, and how to forgive?
Why didn't God just ban evil entirely so we wouldn't have to worry about it?
>>77877618
Yes it is
>>77877684
He gave us freedom to choose, we can choose to ignore him and be degenerate sinners maybe we will have fun on earth but then we have to love with the consequences of our actions. It says lust is wrong because you're committing adultery, there's no difference between sleeping with a dozen women and imaging yourself to sleep with that many women. Those kinds of thoughts should be reserved for your wife only
>>77876754
I've suffered from pornography addiction for a long time, and interestingly enough I turned to the Bible after reaching rock bottom because of it. It's pretty bad, and its effect on society is bad, but I kind of see it like gun control. The problem isn't pornography itself, which honestly cant be contained (like the failed drug war), the problem is the self control and awareness of the people in the world today. The tide is already turning. Boys who grew up hooked on porn are seeing how bad it was for them, and are looking to conservative marriage and procreation instead.
That being said, open acceptance of it being "just fine" is not helping, and should be frowned upon more strongly, same with being gay/transgender but that shit is a pandoras box that might not ever be closed.
>>77878099
Making it against the law will enforce this idea that it's not good for you, there is no good reason to argue for the legality of porn absolutely none whatsoever. It should be illegal it's disgusting, immoral, negatively effects the mental health of those who watch it, it's a slippery slope to other perverted fetishes.
>>77877906
I agree. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife. And there's no reason to encourage otherwise.
But you need a cultural and spiritual shift, not just unenforcible laws. Consider 4chan for instance. It's overflowing with revenge porn and all sorts of stuff. It didn't used to be that way. How many more containment boards? The kiss of death for any productive board has been when the community allows it to turn into relationships and sex. The moderators can't do a damn thing about it other than ruining the board harder.
It's literally how terrorism works.
>>77877906
>there's no difference between sleeping with a dozen women and imaging yourself to sleep with that many women. Those kinds of thoughts should be reserved for your wife only
I have a really hard time with the "eye fucking" is the same as adultery thing. Our brains produce thoughts almost constantly without our conscious approval. Not feeling lust around beautiful and provocatively clad women seems frankly impossible to me. Why did God make women beautiful if not to attract a man to marry her? Is it ok for single men to leer at women and when you're married it's suddenly not ok to be aroused by anyone other than your wife. Words and actions have power and consequences, but thoughts cannot be controlled. They can, however, be chosen to be obeyed or ignored.
>>77878477
Simple, don't allow the production of porn. Shut down porn companies, charge people who film porn or distribute it. It shouldn't be tolerated by our society, no decent person can defend porn there's nothing to defend about it.
>>77878586
You're mixing up lust and attraction, looking at a woman or a man if you're a woman and having your first thoughts of him or her be sexual is what's wrong, but looking at someone and saying they have nice eyes or nice hair or whatever isn't a bad thing.
Feeling attraction for someone is fine we should feel some attraction to the person we will marry one day, but lustful thoughts should be avoided, it can be hard believe me I had this problem a lot but I quit masturbating, I quit porn I tried to avoid having sexual thoughts take over my mind, it's hard but it's possible to view someone as a human and not just a sex object.
>>77878673
I wouldn't mind if the (((people who produce porn))) got some more shut down. They're obviously practicing legal arbitrage to spread filth.
But it reminds me of a story about a school one time. The feds had to come in and start confiscating phones en masse because all the underaged kids were exchanging nekkid pics with each other and it just wasn't viable to turn them all into felons and prisoners. So they just said you have to give your phone to the friendly man in the black suit so he can make sure your CP gets the delete button and we'll call it even.
If that's not a clear sign of a fallen society than I don't know what is. So then you have to ask yourself, "who is at fault for this?" Was it really just porn? We've had porn for a long time before things got that bad. Seems like we need a more clever solution.
>>77879059
Porn is more accessible than ever, before the internet you had to go to the sex shop and buy a porn tape, today Timmy can just go on the dozens of free web sites that offer millions of hours of videos for free.
Same thing with mobile phones, before that if you wanted to see each other naked you had to ask face to face which is harder to do then over a text message.
In this case the parents should be punished with a serious fine
>>77878673
Better yet, shut down internet as a home service
everything good about it is better used in the school/work/library environment only
home internet as a whole only encourages laziness, porn and degeneracy.
Plus there's no realistic way to stop porn (including amateurs with phones) without extreme surveillance state, without instead just cutting off the whole Net.
I seriously believe the internet must be banned from the home. It's simple too, just shut down ISPs from offering any HTTP traffic to normal users.
>>77879371
The Internet itself should be banned, or at least completely regulated and illegal for children to use AT ALL.
Much easier and more effective than filtering through hundreds of files
>>77879371
One of my favorite trends over the past number of years is talking to parents and finding out they agree all these phones and devices are a serious vector for societal cancer that needs to be more carefully reconsidered.
Luddites never win, but creative people do.
>>77879434
This is a bit extreme, it seems ridiculous to me that the idea of porn being banned is such a weird concept to accept. It's not hard to regulate they already do regulate it.
>>77879487
I agree with that, children should have internet access only at school, in libraries or under parental supervision.
I seriously believe this too, the Internet itself is the public threat, porn is the worst symptom but really it's the Internet as a whole that is corroding society in many ways. Keep the best parts of it (informational) but completely shut down the recreational/social parts as well as sexual.
Internet does NOT need to be accessed from home at all, and it's not a fundamental freedom.
>>77879701
It's not hard to ban porn sites.
But places like this?
What happens to sites like this where any anon can post porn?
No way to stop without either tracking every user (which has implications for speech censorship since it can be used to punish/shut down any sort of post) or just shutting down all anonymous communication sites, period.
The latter is better. Real Internet ID is the only way. and anon needs to go.
>>77879696
I don't understand the point of cell phones existing when pay phones are everywhere to be honest. Children certainly don't have any reason to own a phone I got my first cell phone at 18, payed off my contract and cancelled it because I didn't see a point in owning one.
>>77879839
Is it so hard to ban someone who posted a picture of someone having sex when they already do that if the person is underage?
It's not a ridiculous concept, it's being done everyday
>>77879717
>Keep the best parts of it (informational)
lol when the internet first came out it was so easy to get an A in five minutes because you could paste together some paragraphs you found in what at the time counted as a search engine.
It took so many years before the mass public understood this. But at least if you had a good upbringing you could decide for yourself that it wasn't right to abuse the ability.
>>77880043
What about words though?
Some of the worst filth I encountered at a young age was written.
And this is where a site like 4chan really poses a problem, as it's full of foul language and sexual talk. The issue is that there's a fine line between banning sexual writing and infringing on speech.
Which is why I think it would be best to just completely shut down the internet as we know it.
>>77879886
I've never had one myself. They're all negatives with almost no positives in my opinion. But it's hell nowadays trying to find a public phone when you need one these days.
>tfw oh good here's a gas station
>holy crap an actual telephone booth I'm so totally going in there
>oh all my feely feels it's even got a phone book
...
>how did I not notice there weren't even any wires
>dude working the counter in the gas station is surely laughing his ass off at me for standing in this glass house retard chamber
>>77880311
Maybe in America it's like that but in Canada pay phones are still widespread, go into any library, mall, community centre, grocery store they all have pay phones
>>77880492
Hang on to them. Purging the pay phones is a vector for forcing more people into the wireless SmartJew, no bans needed.
I take it as a comforting sign that /pol/ went nuts about sucking dog dick in Canada the other day. Humanity has been through rough times before. I have faith that we'll find our way through the darkness again.
>>77881033
It's happened a lot through history, the regency era was disgusting compared to the Victorians.
>>77881084
honestly, I think a lot of feminists are useful allies of traditionalists. They want the same things as Christians but for completely wrong reasons.
But really, with a left-controlled political sphere the only way to pass something like a porn ban is to frame it as a feminist/womens rights issue.
For this reason /pol/ and the main 4chan attitude is actually worse than Tumblr feminism.
Think about it, things like all those insane "consent" laws on campuses, it's almost like the left is undoing its own sexual revolution in some ways. Maybe we'll see a time when "consent contracts" are more binding than legal marriages
>>77881199
There's nothing wrong with being a feminist in the traditional sense, the bible does advocate for some feminist ideas, like the fact that it was preaching against lust and objectifying women. It also claimed rapists should be executed. It's amazing that modern feminists have convinced themselves Christians are their enemy but Islamists aren't.
>>77881450
The problem is that they oppose objectification of women but also oppose marriage, and don't see marriage as a GOOD thing for their cause.
They want to hold men to Christian standards but not themselves.
>>77881544
They want others to live to a certain standard they refuse to live by themselves, unfortunately many Christians are the same way.
