The Tesla 3 will be fully autonomous and self-driving. This new era of self-driving cars is simply one aspect of the new Artificial intelligence age.
Are you hyped to never drive again and let a computer do it? By 2025, human control of driving will be banned. All cars will be owned by corporations and act as Taxis, individual car ownership will be outlawed.
Article: http://electrek.co/2016/06/02/tesla-model-3-fully-autonomous-elon-musk/
Fully autonomous driving is expected to be the main new feature to be announced at the event and now Musk did everything but confirm it during a conference yesterday.
He then added that it will be “really big news” when he starts talking about it and that Tesla will do the “obvious thing”.
The obvious thing is fully autonomous driving. It’s what everyone has been talking about since Tesla unveiled the Model 3 prototype without any instrument cluster, and it’s also what they were talking about when Musk referred to it.
>>77854319
So it'll drive itself straight to the garbage heap?
In the future these things won't exist.
- Parking Spaces, garages, driveways
- Humans Driving or any driving related job like trucking
- Car Accidents and traffic jams of any kind
- Individual Car ownership and car insurance
- Car Maintenance, seriously reduced (by 99%)
In addition the total number of cars will be reduced by 80% or more and most will be fully electric.
>>77854319
Tesla = Scam.
Musk = Scammer.
SpaceX = Loss.
Musk = Loser.
>>77854618
>- Car Maintenance, seriously reduced (by 99%)
Uh no
>>77854595
This is the rolls royce autonomous vehicle
This is the future of cars
We are all passengers.
Also this isn't the biggest or most important change, just the one average people can grok the most.
Cease the means of production, do it now!
>>77854618
Lard ass overdrive he has shifted into.
>>77854319
too bad tesla is a fucking garbage company and any reason why you would idolize this retard is completely beyond me
>>77854319
How do self drivers handle dangerous situations?
Like that guy who has a car that he can take manual control of at any time pushing yours out of the way because he is in a hurry.
What about a psycho who wants to shoot drivers who move at a very predictable rate of speed?
If he is really mean and into trajectory calculations he can sit on the other side of a hill with a camera feed that watches the road he wants to attack.
>>77854873
He doesn't do it for free.
>>77854794
How does this shit heap work? It's doesn't even have a steering wheel for manual control in case if something goes wrong?
>yfw wife gonna takes his half of money so we wont conquer universe
>>77854785
EV + huge reduction in total cars
>>77854794
How is it going to go over speedbumps without denting the box around the wheels?
>>77854895
By that logic, we should ban trains.
>>77854785
uh yes
there's no engine or transmission, there's not much maintenance on electrics bro
>>77854794
>gets stuck on residential speed bumps
>>77854618
No one is going to give up driving
Its never going to happen, driving is fun.
Self Driving cars are today's version of the flying car
This is how you will travel within 5 years in major cities.
>>77855094
speed bumps? we don't need speed bumps where were going.
>>77854319
Assault car ban in my life time?
>>77854873
Too bad Tesla isn't the only one
there are huge budgets going towards autonomous
billions upon billions upon billions all over the world
>>77854794
interesting you said grok, when i saw the image i thought of Heinlein's Job
>>77855230
having fun will be forbidden in our life time
>>77854895
silly situations
Musk please gib car
And then expect a watch dog to hack your car to drive it in 300 mph in every direction
>>77854794
That looks like it was designed by an autistic 7 year old with access to only lego blocks and a half sharpened crayon
>>77855267
Who gives a shit
Even if they cut car crashes in half every year, you are talking about 20k scandals a year..
>>77854785
Are you stupid?
>>77855267
>Naming your vehicle the IED
>>77854812
We should let the mean of production develop a few more before ceasing it.
>Son of Maye nee (((Haldeman)))
good goyim... worship the best White™ businessman on the planet
>>77854319
Used car market set to collapse in under 10 years.
>mfw everyone said leasing was for idiots
Enjoy trading your car in for scrap metal auto cucks.
>>77854319
fuck that driving is fun
>>77855094
It's a concept car
>>77854794
>square tires
Nothing is more fun to me than driving. Emission laws and self driving cars make me cringe so hard.
>>77855123
Most car maintenance does not involve the engine or transmission, but everything else.
>>77855065
Might aswell go for Electric buses then, 99% sounds ridiculous.
USEFUL REMINDER THAT
ELON MUSK
IS A CRYPTOKIKE ELEVATED BY CIA WITH POPULACE MONEY TAXES
ALSO
HIS ENTERPRENEURSHIP WITH NASA IS REALLY REALLY SHADY
Who else is going to make sure to have a classic, non-cucked vehicle when this shit becomes commonplace, and what will you have?
praise lucifer
0-60 in less than 6 seconds.
Thats at the base price.
>>77855144
Except everyone will and there are many, many ways it can be forced.
First of all, giving up driving means never paying car insurance again, you also don' have to pay for a car itself.
>>77855593
He more than likely diddles child actors on the DL, then.
>Are you hyped
I'm rather terrified to be completely desu with you my kin
>Are you hyped to never drive again?
YES I'M FUCKING HYPE AS FUCK.
>maintenance is the fleet's problem, not my problem
>shitposting on the way to work
>can enjoy the scenery on long drives
>won't end up quadriplegic if I drive drunk like happened to a guy I know
>won't end up killing someone else and being really sad about it like in that A Simple Plan song
>no more speeding tickets ever
We are entering a golden age, you fucks. This is some Jetsons-tier shit and you can do is whine about it.
>>77855585
have you ever seen a car? what do you think an oil change is?
jesus fucking christ
Looking forward to this, people that don't like driving should not be driving. This car should replace every box with automatic transmission.
>>77855316
you can have fun
in a safe bubble
>>77854319
They'd need to stagger start times for work days so that there aren't thousands of unused cars sitting around in the middle of the day if they really wanted things to be efficient. We all know that won't happen though. At least you can jerk off in rush hour traffic now.
>>77855610
guess you can look at it and maybe drive it on your own property, pretty sure humans will be kicked off the road once automation takes hold. drivers licenses are going to be something only few people have, much like pilots of today.
Cab drivers on suicide wash
>>77855733
Im guessing you've only driven a Toyota Camry.
>>77855392
The gains are much, much, much, much higher than 50% of crashes.
Just think of the savings for capital investors in areas like Uber or Trucking. You cut costs significantly and can keep near the same prices for consumers.
>>77855524
those 7 year leases are going to fuck retards over so much
>All of these luddites that irrationally hat Musk
Please give me your reasons, this thread is mind boggling
>>77855610
>240z
Fuck yes.
Either a 240z, or a Saab 99 EMS. I wish it was easier to find the early 80s Audi Quattros, I've got a Group B itch to scratch.
>>77855123
>a fucking leaf
Faggot, an engine can run for 300k miles with nothing but routine filter and oil changes.
Tires, brakes, struts, bearings, and the lubrication of rotating parts will always be the most maintenance intensive items on a road vehicle.
The only thing a Tesla replaces that eats shit and dies on a regular basis is a transmission. That is it. Oh, and bending a rear panel on a Tesla totals the motherfucker.
>>77855065
Jesus. Read above.
>>77855877
This. Humans will not be trusted to operate their vehicles on public roads.
>>77856092
It's even worse for people who actually bought their cars, like idiots.
>>77855832
>stagger start times
these are computer controlled
it could tailgate like a mofo because it would have instant reaction times
also could get rid of traffic lights if human drivers are removed from the equasion
>>77855585
what else on an EV?
Keep in mind car ownership will swap from individuals to ride sharing companies. So it will be all similar EV models, all repaired by the company.
A computer will likely do 90% of the maintenance.
>>77855123
How often are the sensors going to need to be checked?
>>77854319
>are you hyped
>human control of driving will be banned
You must be a leftist if you celebrate being stripped of your freedoms.
>>77855901
You're right, I've never driven a muscle car, classic car, sports car or supercar. Maybe I'd be less willing to trade the pleasure of driving for the 30,000 American lives taken in car crashes every year if I had, but we're unlikely to find out.
And yeah, I'm pretty sure truckers will be very happy. I'm looking forward to that as well.
>>77855832
Nothing stopping me from jerking off in traffic now friend
>>77855733
>>no more speeding tickets ever
I just wish we had a competent government that understood the required infrastructure changes
you also have to factor in the huge savings in healthcare, emergency response, police, and transport costs.
Truckers/transport makes up a significant portion of workforce in america
Great, the first step towards a nanny state where it's illegal to drive your own car.
>>77856195
>Lancia Delta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8nOHNu2FG4
I just can't imagine the infrastructure overhaul needed to get this to work as op believes.
>>77856471
Stay in denial auto cuck, now might be a good time to sell your Ford Taurus while it's still worth more than $100 though.
>>77855832
Not really. Rush hour transit times would be reduced significantly. Also even in the middle of the day there are plenty of cars in driveways/home garages.
Whatever the peak number of cars are ever on the road, is more than is required post automation.
>>77855756
Have you ever seen a car? what do you think a tire change, suspension, ball joints, any of the 100 electronic sensors on the car, wheel,brakes and pads, cooling filter, Rust is? Part of maintenance.
Most engine troubles and transmission troubles occur less often then everything else
People change their oil every 5 to 7000 miles normally, ive worked on cars since young age, "jesus fucking christ"
You should know this moose, you also got shitty roads.
>>77855832
There are thousands of unused cars sitting around in the middle of the day right now. In a fleet system, the same car that got a nine-to-fiver to work will be taking retirees to the grocery store instead of collecting bird shit in the company parking lot for eight hours.
>>77854319
I seriously don't understand why people want this shit... I love driving, and if I don't want to drive, I can just Uber... It just seems like there's so many things that could go wrong...
I drive for a living and I don't want to be on the road with these fucking things
>>77855888
Don't you want some minority driving you around?
Why would you rather have an autonomous car that costs less and drives safely?
Cagers are cucks
News at 11
>>77856612
>I drive for a living and I don't want to be on the road with these fucking things
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
better start collecting that unemployment money
>>77856612
>I seriously don't understand why people want this shit...
???
>I drive for a living
lol oh
>>77856690
Not all of us live in fucking Arizona, shitbird.
>>77854319
Just a reminder that this will be implemented into trucks soon and there will be NO jobs
Uber self driving vehicle.
Plans to have 100,000+ self driving Uber vehicles in service by 2020.
>>77855144
>Uber becomes automated
>Offers a membership program where you get 3 hours of rides a week for $100 a month
>No insurance payments, no car maintenance, no gas
>implying a program like this wouldn't be insanely popular
>>77856690
>Used to have 250cc trials bike, miss it badly
>Don't trust anyone around here not to run me the fuck over if I get a street legal one
>>77854319
Self-Driving cars and Trucks is the worst idea. It basically gives control of more of your life to greedy oligarchs.
Truck driver is the top profession for working men in America. I'm against the self-driving movement.
>>77856471
None, really. A decade ago, people thought self-driving would require specially-made roads. But it turns out not to be necessary at all; the cars can read the roads themselves. They don't need the road to tell them what to do.
and i got my licence which i paid 2k for and a shitty honda for 1k 2 weeks ago
JUST
>>77854319
Why is there such a push for robot cars? I hate the idea. There are few things more relaxing than driving around later in the night.
>>77856214
That wasn't really at all related to what I was saying. I meant you're going to have massive numbers of idle cars not generating revenue if you plan around the commuter hours peak where there are many times the number of cars on the road as you have during the middle of the day. A solution would be having staggered start times for work so you have say 30% of people leaving at 7:00 another 30% at 7:30 and the final 30% at 8 but I find a coordinated effort to make that happen unlikely.
>>77856538
>>77856570
Those are idle cars owned by people who didn't buy them as a revenue source. It's a different story when that idle car represents a significant investment for a business. Something is going to have to be tweaked as far as peak commuter times go to get to 100% automated roads and no one is talking about it.
>not autonomous flying cars
all that money wasted on a vision of a freedom hating cuck
>>77856840
Yep, this.
Can. Not. Wait.
>>77856840
But that's more than I spend on gas and insurance every month.
>>77856258
It's an increase in freedom
Cheap access to transport for everyone, at any time, anywhere, and not beholden to maintenance, insurance, or other high costs compared to AI ride share
There is a lot of freedom in not needing to own something and also having more free capital to spend on other shit
>>77856901
>Why is there such a push for robot cars?
You can't be serious.
>>77854319
I like and dislike the idea.
Its a good idea to have auto-driving for those that do long distances, or might be disrupted at the wheel. Having auto-driving trucks and delivery vans will be great, as will auto-drive taxi's.
But I would hate to be forced. I love driving, its my 'have fun' hobby. If I feel shitty, had a bad day, I can get in my car, decide on a random destination and just drive. I can listen to tunes, and just enjoy the freedom of being in control of a portion of my life.
Hell, other times driving feels like a chore. But I wouldn't give up driving for anything.
I've drove a 300 mile round trip, just to have a cup of tea and a sandwich at my mums house..and to say hello to her of course. I just needed an excuse to drive somewhere, and that was it.
>>77856612
>I drive for a living
I recommend changing jobs before it's too late.
>>77856281
These problems can easily be solved. You can install a breathalyzer to turn on you car to avoid drunk driving. Drivers licences can be revoked more easily. Phones cant be turned on when inside a car. So many things can be done to avoid accidents, and I do suggest you get a sports car, you can get some used sports cars for under 4000 dollars
>>77856983
You honestly think insurance will magically disappear for road-bound vehicles? Or are you just shitposting for the lulz?
>>77856410
Or America saves 1+ trillion dollars a year and can build a bunch of race tracks all over for people to race around in, which are more fun than sitting at stop lights and being stuck in a traffic jam
>>77854994
It's a concept car. It doesn't have to actually work.
>>77856923
I think you're inventing problems to complain about. Fleets aren't going to need to manipulate the workday in order to be profitable.
>>77856758
>>77856795
Ok, I see where you guys are coming from... But still, driving is fucking awesome... Isn't there some way that these things can be hacked and just have you drive off the side of a cliff?
And don't be faggots, the kind of driving I do cannot be replaced by robots
Musk is basically the "Enron" of the tech world. I just don't believe he isn't a jew. Everything about him reeks scam artist.
the "Hyperloop" is the biggest joke I've ever heard, and will never happen. People never stop to ask pracital questions-- in theory it sounds nice, in reality will never work.
>rob a bank
>getaway car drives you to the police station
>need a shit
>miss your chance to tell the car to turn off at the next service station
>hot babes parked at the lights
>you flirt with them and they invite you to a party before they tell you where it is your car speeds off
>your wife uses your car and it uses your last programmed journey
>takes her to that tranny hooker spot
The future is bright
>>77854319
>By 2025, human control of driving will be banned
Never going to happen.
>>77856961
Do you like driving? Let me put it this way, did you ever go for a ride just because, aimlessly? Does your car have automatic gearbox? Would you like to be able to shitpost while you commute?
>>77857084
No, the type of driving I do will not be replaced by robots... What are the pros to the automated cars?
>>77854319
Why the fuck would you want that? What the fuck are you shilling? Yay lose your jobs and livlihoods and freedoms. Who asked for this? These cars will butcher everybody. Said a bad post on here? Off a cliff with you. And your ban estimations I hope will be wrong
>>77857179
>I think it's a scam even though there's no evidence of anything being scammy
>>77854319
>There are people who unironically think driving is fun
wew
>>77857152
>And don't be faggots, the kind of driving I do cannot be replaced by robots
>>77857255
>What are the pros to the automated cars?
The biggest point is probably no more accidents, vehicular death or dui
>>77857128
Nope. Look at Laguna Seca. World famous race course. Libtards moved in to houses being built near the track, and then they petition to close the track. Now, track days are limited to 90 decibels. Any car louder than that will be asked to leave.
So no. Tracks are being closed. The money is being hoarded by corrupt government agencies, and fun is being equated with being bad.
>>77857255
It will be.
Automated cars can drive 24 hours a day instead of 8 hours a day. Automated cars require no wage and no benefits. Truckers and taxis will be replaced first. Then, all other cars.
>>77857152
>the kind of driving I do cannot be replaced by robots
Seeing as how doctors are set to be replaced by AI in the next 10-15 years, I'm pretty sure we'll be able to handle whatever it is you do. Sorry to red pill you on this.
>>77857255
even if your driving job isn't replaced, your wages are about to be driven down to $12/hr from all of the unemployed drivers who will suddenly be very willing to do your job
if you're in transportation as a long term career right now you're making a bad career decision
just wait until we have self-driving Trailer-trucks with 10 tons starts running amok in a whole city
and no one could stop it
then we won't hear from this self-driving shit for the next 100 years
>>77857311
You're a fucking moron and an Asian Woman
>>77857152
>Isn't there some way that these things can be hacked and just have you drive off the side of a cliff?
Yes, quite easily.
https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/
All newer cars have internet built in.
No manufacturers seem to understand security.
Everything is run off of CANBUS, a well documented communications protocol.
And remember: Modern cars have electric power steering pumps.
Waited in line on March 31st.
Reserved two.
U jelly?
>>77857354
>no more accidents, vehicular death
Do you know what happens when a tire blows out? Or when a piece of the suspension breaks? Or something actually goes wrong in an automated system?
>>77857179
>the "Hyperloop" is the biggest joke I've ever heard, and will never happen.
Yeah exactly, it's just like all those other things he said he would do but never came to fruition, like
>Paypal
>SpaceX
>Tesla
Top kek.
>>77857116
>These problems can easily be solved
they really can't. there is a reason even trains need conductors when it theory it could be computerized a lot more easily than driving.
AI can't compensate for a billion different scenarios you need a human to respond to and read the situation and react.
Think about every permutation of what can happen on a road-- from ice to down trees to sloppy contruction to a woman who turns after light has changed.
this is a fantasy. a scam.
>>77856612
>drive for a living
count your days
>>77857143
I'm raising a real problem that gets lost in the hype of people jerking off to the idea of being able to sleep on their way to work.
>Fleets aren't going to need to manipulate the workday in order to be profitable.
No but we also won't have 100% automation if they don't which is pretty much a requirement to get the largest claimed benefits. If you have human drivers on the road you're going to have accidents and congestion.
>>77854319
Dream on, faggot. No one is preventing me from driving my E46 M3. Ever.
>>77856168
he's a Jewish scam artist who is probably a secret pedophile.
he only wants to build a mars colony so he can fuck kids on mars without any interference.
>>77857411
>Seeing as how doctors are set to be replaced by AI in the next 10-15 years,
topkek this is what happens when people watch too many of these "youtube-scientists"
m8 get a job
>>77854319
reminder to arrogant jews
Musk is white. Gates is white. Jobs and Wozniak were white. Buffet is white.
Jews btfo.
Is anyone else extremely terrified by this?
1. We already know that governments like to arrange "car accidents" for their political opponents.
2. We also know that the US government has made apple/Google/Microsoft etc. their bitches.
What do you think could happen when these two ideas merge?
>>77857320
Robots don't know shit. They don't learn or understand subtlety or fuck all. Only what we can remember to program. Oops a frog jumped in the road. It thought it was a child's ball and slammed on the brakes. U ded
>>77857116
I'm sorry you're going to lose a source of pleasure in your life. If it's any consolation, other people will be getting an increase in free time to enjoy their pleasures thanks to autonomous driving.
>>77857123
Insurance will be a fleet's problem. Privately-owned autonomous cars (which I don't believe will be banned, as some people have suggested) will have their liability tacked to the manufacturer. Volvo, for example, has already declared responsibility for any accidents caused by their self-driving cars.
>>77857375
The good part is that there will be almost no initial investment that would prevent a massive shift. Self driving car or truck will cost barely 2 or 3 times as much as simply a new car or truck. They depreciate and have to be replaced anyway, so while at it, they will be replaced by self driving ones.
>>77857593
Musk actually isn't jewish.
>>77856901
Because there are entirely too many people who are lazy faggots that want someone else to do everything for them.
>>77857354
Do you really believe that there will be no more accidents? I find that hard to believe...
As for DUI, you can just grab an Uber or taxi... It's not that hard
I can't imagine that the upkeep on these things is cheap and/or inexpensive either
>>77857529
>AI can't compensate for a billion different scenarios
mfw this is literally exactly what AI does and why it was created in the first place.
Hey go-- I mean employee, why aren't you using your morning and evening commutes to get a little bit of extra work done? After all, the self-driving car has liberated more time that can be used to increase productivity! Gotta keep up with your hard-working H1B co-workers in this globalized economy...
>>77857320
>driving on snow
>no lanes
>computers
>chip one of your 92 cameras with a stone
>error; error
>huge traffic jams
>>77857614
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/19/star-trek-actor-anton-yelchin-dies-in-car-crash-at/
>Yelchin's friends became alarmed because he was supposed to meet them hours earlier for a rehearsal. They went to his San Fernando Valley home at around 1 AM and found him pinned between his car and a brick mailbox, which was attached to a security gate.
>Law enforcement tells us the engine was running when his body was discovered, and the car was in neutral. The driveway was on a fairly steep incline. It's unclear why he got out of the car.
>>77857242
I love driving, yes, and I have a manual box.
I realize I'm the minority, that idea just doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather keep my 80s tarbo funcar and continue modifying it.
>>77854319
is he trying to pander to the alcoholic segment?
>>77857525
>>Paypal
how the fuck is that in any way comparable to self-driving cars? And what does Peter Thielen have to do with Musk?
>>77856471
we'll have Trump as president.
He's gotta put Americans back to work somehow
They need to build a diesel one. Lithium is a rare element
>>77856881
still saves lives and resources
yes it fucks over average people, but what hasn't? What's new about average people being fucked over by people in charge of capital?
We can't stop advancing because human nature is shit. Things still get better this way too.
>>77857614
>FUCK
>>77855331
What even is this flag, the fuck
>>77857607
Med student cuck detected.
>>77857525
he didn't do paypal himself. Space-x is a failure. Tesla is overhyped for wealthy yuppie cucks who can't spot a scam.
I'd say to "screencap this" for in 5 years when musk is in jail, but people never admit they were wrong.
Just like with gaffai and assad, people are too authortarian to ask practical questions, thn magically forget they were wrong when it all blows up.
>>77857593
Do you just search for shit to get mad about or is there really nothing more interesting out there than shitposting?
>>77857625
>Volvo, for example, has already declared responsibility for any accidents caused by their self-driving cars.
they take out a corporate liability policy, consider it overhead, and roll it back into the cost to the consumer. Granted it will be cheaper than insurance for a 16 year old boy driving a fucking v8 mustang.
>be happy tesla owner
>go for a long ride
>engage auto pilot
>get comfy behind the seat
>slowly drift off as you travel 120 mph down the highway
>never wake up again
>>77857588
But it's not a real problem. Fleets do not need to have their cars active literally 100% of the time.
>we also won't have 100% automation if they don't
Yes, we will. What makes you think otherwise?
>>77857705
Amen, brother... There's nothing quite like the feeling of a manual box... I fucking love it
>>77854319
I cant wait for the hacker to lock my car in a crash course towards a river unless I send $$$ over paypal
>>77857179
he is a Jew
his mom's name is Haldeman
>>77857123
Do you pay insurance costs on a taxi cab?
With big companies owning the fleets, they have huge leverage to get cheap rates too.
car insurance is going kaput
>>77857495
>And remember: Modern cars have electric power steering pumps
Because that's how they work?
Next you'll complain that your ECM or Abs is electrical by default and it's somehow bad
>>77855144
Give up? Some. Me for instance, want to nap while getting driven to the office. Want to be driven home when drunk off my ass.
Be priced out? Yep, everyone. People who want to drive themselves and insures willing to cover them will see an adverse pricing death spiral.
If theres a crash and people die, who gets sued?
>>77857669
We don't have AI.
>>77857617
that's not how it works you stupid leaf.
Computers can learn anything through trial and error and reward signals.
We only need strong computers to train them, which we now have, and they'll get a lot stronger in the coming years.
>>77857819
I fucking hate this american thing of treating people like Steve Jobs or similar as some sort of "higher beings", its such a cancer.
one time some german guy was on tv telling how he "loves Tesla", or some stupid german guy that i had at work one time telling me how sad he is that "steve Jobs" died
>>77857899
Yep, this. Not to mention it will make insurance for human drivers cost prohibitive. It will literally cost too much for real people to drive, so they won't, that's assuming it's even still legal for humans to drive, which is highly unlikely.
>>77857683
Can you drive on wet like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krJmTZ-TcMc&t=60
>2025
>all automated cars in north america will be intercepted mid-mandatory mcdonalds trip and sent to FEMA camps
>>77857994
I know, but in America we do. ;^)
>>77857913
Abs is fucking garbage
So lemme get this straight, Americans are supposed to accept that some computer will operate a car for them and that all private ownership will be illegal?
>>77855430
Are you?
Everything that moves on a car sees wear and tear.
>>77857913
I'm more complaining about everything being networked, internet connectivity and no airgaps between entertainment and critical systems.
Aside from electric power steering feeling like shit, it opens up the opportunity to be remotely controlled.
>>77854740
Wat?
190 Merlin 1D engines flown.
100% success rate.
Up-spec'ed to 845kn later this year.
>>77858036
Yes
>>77857852
>Fleets do not need to have their cars active literally 100% of the time.
We're talking about a large number of cars being idle during the day. Even 20% of their fleet sitting doing nothing while accruing maintenance costs and using storage space is a big problem.
>Yes, we will. What makes you think otherwise?
I just told you.
>>77854319
>letting software "engineers" make a car
>let alone one that drives itself
>ever
look up the software bugs that Tesla has had with cars out there, shit like doors can't open while you're inside...
>>77858135
Abs is a necessary component of cars you fucking g ludite
>>77857499
Under an assumed name Nole K'sum?
>>77858140
Yes, you got that straight. Congratulations.
>>77858007
I don't care. Death traps for fat lazy slobs with politically sensitive opinions
>>77857899
>car insurance is going kaput
And tickets! Why doesn't anyone want to talk about how traffic cops will all have to find real jobs?
>>77857525
He wasn't PayPal he was absorbed by PayPal.
>>77858204
Not you, the leaf. Sure some /o/-er maybe can maintain lane while drifting, but not the average dude.
>>77857212
Just think about all the zany situations to exploit on 2030's rom-coms
>>77857617
That's not at all true. Machine learning allows software to teach and 'reprogram' itself. We've got neural networks and weak artificial intelligence already
90% of the posters in this thread have somehow completely missed the revolution in computer science that's been ongoing for fifty years and let me tell you - you guys are going to get fucked into poverty so hard by our software engineer that your genes will not make it to the next century
>>77858235
Yeah ok. I can pump my brakes way better than that slide fest. Rumbling 1000 times a second does SHIT ALL. In order to turn on snow you cannot be applying gas or brake so pumping overrides your Spergy Gombooter
It will be terrible. Driving is one of the few simple pleasures in life. If everyone acted properly there would be no accidents, it's only ruined by a couple of jerks who repeatedly take small risks.
What are you going to do inside in your car, play a fucking racing videogame? You'll all miss driving when the novelty wears off, by then it'll be too fucking late. Not driving is the same as taking fucking public transport, if your friend is driving you it's different because you are with someone you like.
Also the reason you think you like the idea is because it's fucking framed in that way by the guys trying to sell it. So pathetic how easily manipulated the public is.
>>77857734
Are you trolling?
Li is the third most common element in all of creation.
>>77857123
tfw no caterham track car gf
why live
>>77858235
Not really, even on some newer cars ABS and (mainly) traction control is absolute shit tier, to the point of needing to turn it off or pull the fuse to be able to drive in the snow.
There are companies that do it well, but I would rather not have it.
>>77858235
No it isn't. There were cars still being sold in the early 90s without Abs.
It'll never happen. It will be like the movie I, Robot if anything. Human driving will never be banned, it will just open you up to huge liability and increased insurance premiums
>>77858254
>sitting in the passenger seat makes you a fat lazy slob
kill yourself retard
>>77857669
>mfw this is literally exactly what AI does and why it was created in the first place
AI cannot replace a human behind the wheel. As already stated, please explain why trains need conductors when thst would be a fuck of a lot easier to automate than cars.
There are too many variables a human has to account for. A dog out in thr street vs. leaves blowing across the road.
The weekly freeway chases in LA where people have to make unusual movements for a nigger on a joy ride.
Explain to me why trains haven't been automated completely yet. Fuck, for thst matter commerical airplanes.
It's a giant scam that looks good in theory but will never work.
>the future
>all cars are automatic
>car manufacturers install override button
>lets government in on this
>political enemies of the state wind up in car accidents
>>77858085
A fool and his money...
>>77858235
Is this a troll?
my first car had no abs or airbags and it was fine to drive.
>>77858355
I have a 9 star rating which is perfect. Of course i could and have. Do you even drive at all, you robit faggot?
>>77858363
Abs actively measures traction VS braking power. You pumping your brakes doesn't even compare
>>77858427
trains don't need conductors you brain damaged luddite
>>77857839
So far 100 million miles driven on auto-pilot.
Happened zero times thus far.
>>77858427
Yeah i've always wanted to see how google's cars would handle an icy seattle or michigan commute.
>>77857899
The main cost for insurance will always be for medical costs and punitive damages. Major corporations will not eat that liability with any gusto, and I would be very surprised if they would continue some gimmick like volvo is doing.
Now the owner of this Tesla fleet will need to pick up this insurance cost, which will be no less than what they pay now for human drivers of taxi cabs. And if these autonomous cars are so safe and great, manual fags driving real cars will never crash, meaning their insurance will cost literally nothing, like your faggot Tesla fleet insurance.
>>77858390
I only live to spite libtards.
>>77858427
because we don't have the computing power yet, and we don't have the money invested into doing so.
If we had a forward-thinking president for the next 8 years (Trump), most of these things WILL become automated.
>>77858359
>Machine learning allows software to teach and 'reprogram' itself.
No, this is the exact thing to need to do that it doesn't do.
>>77858359
My job is robit-proof and there will be many who will destroy them in riots. Devil worshipping autists. I am better and smarter and God created than your hunk of chemicals and lies. Muh calculations
>>77858472
Sure it's fine to drive but abs is always superior no one said that cars without it were undriveable
>>77858609
speak english
I used to be all for this but now it really seems like some 1984 orwellian type stuff. scares the fuck out of me
>>77857899
Why even bother getting insurance? If an AI car caused a crash, then it's faulty programming and the manufacturer gets sued for millions.
Insurance is done.
>>77854319
it's time to go back to plebbit
>>77858629
what job is that?
Musk is insane though, he thinks we live in a computer.
He's just good at telling people what they want to hear, especially kids who think the singularity is real because they're atheist and still want to believe in god and heaven.
>>77858486
I ride a motorcycle and I've seen shit you wouldn't believe. Some people would just be better off having a computer decide for them. CDI is enough of a computer for me.
>>77857747
Technology to a certain degree is an efficiency trap in which workers get trapped and slaughtered. Oligarchs scheme ways to put people out of work and replace them with automation which they own in full. The best way for workers to keep their ability to earn a living is to organize and obtain political power through solidarity. Technology workers in general have no organization and live by the false belief they will always maintain the "Right" skills for the market.
>>77858655
Computers cannot reprogram themselves.
>>77858656
I'm with you, brother... I don't fucking like this one bit
>Would you drive a car without a steering wheel?
>>77858661
Sounds more like car companies will be forced to make them all semi-automated.
What car company would willingly take on that kind of liability? Nobody, that's who.
>>77858415
Drive, asshole. Just fucking drive you fat Wall*E retard
>>77858497
Nope. I don't flutter the brakes like a helmet protected faggoty retard
>>77854618
>cars will also NEVER BREAK DOWN AT ALL AND DRIVE AND WORK PERFECTLY **!!!FOREVER!!!***
You're fucking thicker than pig shit son!
I bet you consider yourself a "smarter than most" futurist as well!
Strap on your cybernetic dunce-cap and drive your fucking hover-board into the corner.
>>77858452
>>77858211
They have to pay for storage costs either way. Time spent off the road is time that the cars AREN'T enduring wear-and-tear. And you are underestimating the number of people who will need cars outside of the morning and evening rush. In my city, the roads are constantly crammed with vehicles. Trust me - the fleets will not be struggling to find uses for their cars.
>>77857659
insignificant number of accidents compared to human driving
driving is not that hard, if you imagine they are all AI controlled, there will be basically 1% or less of current accident levels. Most accidents are because of utter retardation.
>>77858514
Bullshit. There are gifs and numerous news stories about tesla and google cars fucking around and smashing into shit. Do you have a source you fucking dangerous zionist shill liar?
>buy self driving car
>turn it on uber mode when I don't need it
>?????
>PROFIT
Yeah, people who drive for a living are gonna get fucked hard, but that's what they ultimately get for making a poor career choice. Also owning a car will never be made illegal. If anything happens, we'll issue a "manual" license for people who still want to be part of the commute. There is nothing wrong with this at all and I welcome it with open arms. Fuck you fags holding back progress.
>>77858372
I find driving incredibly stressful.
Loads of insurance scammers everywhere trying to make be wreak on them so their lawyer/bodyshop/tow driver can get them kickbacks.
>>77858761
The deeper down the rabbit hole you go, the more bullshit this image becomes.
> order car to home to go buy tendies
> car arrives, some nigger covered the seats with cum and shit
> call and complain
> hour later replacement car arrives, smells like piss and A/C is broken
> fuck it, I'm hungry
> sit in piss
> get tendies and go home to eat
> finally home, dog pisses in my leg because of other persons piss
> company fucks up and double charged my card because of their mistake
> spend an hour on phone to get them to fix problem
> food goes cold
Can't wait...
>The Singularity
>Prerequisite: Knowing fuck-all about history.
>>77858774
>Nope. I don't flutter the brakes like a helmet protected faggoty retard
Abs will always have superior traction than you.
>>77855573
>Iktf
>>77854618
>Car Accidents
Just pray you're not a political enemy of the corporation or party.
>>77858687
Too bad
>>77858694
I go kinda fast but i give everybody room. You guys especially
>>77858773
They are already semi-automated. The Mercedes S-class drives from A to B completely autonomously, but doesn't guarantee anything.
Now this Musk retard is implying COMPLETE automation.
>>77857734
I read a magazine saying lithium deposits aren't very large and expensive to mine
>>77857242
>Do you like driving?
Yes.
>Let me put it this way, did you ever go for a ride just because, aimlessly?
Yes.
>Does your car have automatic gearbox?
No, I'm not a cripple.
>Would you like to be able to shitpost while you commute?
I find focusing on any sort of screen while moving extremely uncomfortable on my vision, so no.
I won't get any of this self driving nonsense unless I'm forced.
And when I am, it'll probably be about time to fuck off to some less developed continent because Europe will either be an islamic caliphate or a police state.
>>77858746
not quite yet, but they can learn from data.
that's what machine learning is. It does some things, calculates whether or not those were good things to do, and then updates it's decision-making model.
Hypothetically, this could solve any problem, including human-level intelligence.
>>77858541
ice and snow isn't as hard as people think - the car has more than just optics to guide it, so it can assess a whiteout whereas a human would be blind. Ford's self driving cars can already handle ice and snow, btw
https://www.wired.com/2016/01/the-clever-way-fords-self-driving-cars-navigate-in-snow/
>>77858966
Not always. The 'not always' part especially often happens in sand and snow.
>any year
>not having a Ford Falcon
>>77854618
So, basically USSR?
>>77858508
>trains don't need conductors
really? call amtrak and the NYC subway pajeet, I"m sure they'd love to save the money.
Always a dothead in a community college computer science program who has no concept of real world.
you are a dothead, correct? these fantasies always come from dotheads. Or 95% of time.
>>77858862
Calling bullshit right back. The Telsa AP videos show the AP avoiding shit human drivers doing dumb ass shit on the freeway.
>>77855675
What an excellent post anonbro
>>77858995
Musk is going to be bankrupt within a decade. Nothing he does matters. All he's done is buy himself a tombstone that says "Not just the paypal guy"
>>77858774
>expending 2 joules of energy a day slightly pressing on a gas pedal and turning a wheel makes you fit
>working in the passenger seat while the car drives itself make you obese
I swear all canadians on this site are brain damaged
>>77858894
>Loads of insurance scammers everywhere trying to make be wreak on them so their lawyer/bodyshop/tow driver can get them kickbacks.
Are you schizophrenic or something? The fuck dude
>>77859064
Got anything showing it navigating icy hills? or just flat roads?
>>77854618
Honestly though, how do you figure that maintenance will be cut by 99%? As I see it, maintenance will rise at least 50%
capcha: you're a huge faggot
>>77855144
driving on a race track is fun. Driving on road is boring.
>>77858966
I slid for 600 feet numerous times when i would stop in 15-20 without it. Disabled it in the fusebox. Why are you so shit? Nobody follows the lines like me
>>77855498
IED is the school that designed it
