how does one become a homosexual? by birth or by choice?
>>77851845
Both
>>77851845
>how does one become a homosexual? by birth or by choice?
Both. You start on one part of the spectrum and can move one or two squares to the left or right.
You get sucked into it.
>>77851845
I don't think it's a choice but more something that you discover
>>77851845
Generally born. Faggots and dykes have brains structured similarly to straight women and men, respectively.
People are born gay. If you were a faggot and could choose not to be you would.
>>77851845
It's interesting.
I have a little cousin that's been acting like a faggot for as long as I can remember. Ever since he was a toddler he's been doing gay shit. Like talking and acting very flamboyant, not unlike a faggot. If he actually turns out to be a faggot, I'm convinced homosexuals are born that way.
He also grew up in a very liberal household in Maryland, so there's that in play too. Basically, his behavior was likely never discouraged.
By spending too much time brainwashed by the internet and technology, sedentary and consuming instead of creating.
4chan literally makes you gay if you consume too much
Some are probably by birth because of hormone imbalances. But considering that 50% of homos were molested as children, which is like 8x the amount of straight males who were molested, a huge portion of it is behavioral.
>>77851845
Usually something happens to them in their childhood that causes them to become more interested in boys than girls.
Also this croatian is a Milo shill pushing subversive propaganada, just look at his last thread about his wife with a faggot cowboy brokeback mountain OP picture
so he can fuck off.
Traps got me. Bisexual I guess. Fuck, lol. I've always been attracted to taboo shit... milfs mostly, but now I'm 30 and milfs are just like, my age. Lol.
>>77851845
If it isn't discouraged then people can experiment at a young age and stick with it.
So both.
>>77851845
>a bunch of stuff from bags
>lol look at me guize, I'm cooking
>>77852524
The Serbs killed em for a reason
>>77852546
You're not actually bisexual you're just addicted to the chemical surges from the cummies. You need bigger and bigger fixes, just like a heroin addict where percocets not good enough so you go to oxycontin, then heroin.
Quit porn and you will be straight again.
>>77852687
This
>>77852307
I would agree. But I know i'm a degenerate and i would have sex with either sides. But I cannot feel the emotion of "passion" or "love" for another man. Just a woman.
The fuck dose that mean anyways?
>>77851845
Through a combination of genetic, social, and environmental factors.
>pol will try to argue against this
>>77851845
>By Birth
You are born and will grow as a normal human.
If you have brothers or sisters, they'll have a lit of children.
>By Choice
>Choice
Gayness is not Homosexuality. When you observe someone turning into a Homo, That someone is actually turning into a Gay.
Gays are infected, you must kill them.
Gayness infects Both hetero and homo beings.
Trust me, I'm a Doctor after all.
>>77852130
>>77851845
Only 1% of of the population are born homosexual with the brain more closely resembling the opposite gender. However, about 8% of the population engage in a homosexuality.
>>77852778
I think this is probably the most true factor.
>>77852687
Yea you're probably right. Shits addictive
.
>>77851845
too much anime
>>77851845
Twin studies conclusively prove that faggotry is a choice.
>>77852755
Bisexuality is often just a phase. I was 'Bisexual' between 14-18. After that I found other boys and men repulsive and just stuck with girls.
>>77852755
That means you're a degenerate, Greek-tier sex fiend.
Nature v Nurture?
Let's see.
Nature
>people are born gay, meaning there is some genetic component. With legalized gay marriage and social acceptance to being gay, gay people will cease to exist considering gay people can't naturally reproduce. Back in the day gay people were closeted and still procreated with the opposite sex.
Nurture
>Through personal experience with the world, a person's sexuality is formed. With that logic it can be reformed.
>>77852755
you have little to no self control, you care more for earthly pleasure than other more important matters, you're disgusting, you should be shot
>>77852822
>However, about 8% of the population engage in a homosexuality.
Uh, is there a source for that? While I'm sure there's a decent chunk of bicurious or bisexuals out there, 8% seems quite high
>>77852982
Faggot
>>77852996
Thing is, most "straight" people don't get this.
They're ok with premarital sex which makes them no better than faggots, even if they hate faggots.
This is what so many idiots never get: Fags are a symptom, straight white fornicators are THE most widespread problem , and the only reason gays ever got rights in the first place.
>>77853014
You think 8% sounds high? About 1 in 15 isn't it? My math sucks that's just a guess. I'd think right around 1 in 20 is about right.
>>77853034
hey life can get boring or lonely
>>77851845
Homosexuals don't breed, so they have to increase their numbers by recruiting.
>>77852996
Coming from the person who probably spends 10 hours a day on a weeb image board. Telling me about self control.
>>77852748
I always thought it was a mental illness
>>77853207
You're both right.
in fact 4chan is a direct cause of a massive increase in faggots and sexual deviants in our generation. It's part of the problem, as is the whole internet.
Technology is making the world into controlled hermaphrodite golems. It's witchcraft.
4chan turned me gay
>>77853207
i have 2 jobs, i'm not promiscuous, and don't do drugs
so ya. i'm the one without sin casting the first stone, faggot
>>77853111
You the buddy claiming premarital sex makes you homo in the other thread?
>>77853355
Pretty sure that saying is supposed to be ironic, ie none of us are without sin.
Dumbass.
>>77853440
YES IT DOES, keep ignoring the truth faggot.
>>77853171
That still seems kind of high though. How many people really sit around thinking whether sucking a dick is a good idea? haha
I'd think around 1% is gay, 1% is bicurious would be a more realistic statistic. Maybe higher among women of course.
Maybe it's really swept under the rug, but I don't think bicruiosity is as common as people say. Straight up cheating among bisexuals is quite common though, just look at the number of married men cheating on craigslist. But even then, we know bisexuals are still only roughly the same percentage as gays at around 1%.
>>77852130
>>77851845
By sucking lots of cocks.
>>77851845
Mostly birth is my guess.
Could see how someone could choose to fuck teen age boys, all smooth and soft skin with tight asses.
Put some makeup and a wig on some of those boys and I would go to town.
But a hairy, full grown grown man? No way. How would you even get your dick up? And why, as a young handsome man would you want to choose that?
>>77853448
pretty sure my post was supposed to be sarcastic, but you're a fucking retard who doesn't understand that
>>77853491
Tell that to PUAs who are 99.9% straight
>>77853563
so what if I only let them suck my cock, that will keep me from getting the gay right?
>>77853614
you just proved why most faggots are pedos
>>77853529
I figure there's at least 1 gay kid in every class (sure seemed that way). And probably a lesbian in about the same. High school classes I'm talking, so about 25 people. Then you add in all the experimental shit (especially for females) and 8% doesn't seem off to me at all. But who fuckin knows. Lotta closet fags tho.
>>77851845
Pretty sure I was born gay, my oldest memory is of 4 years old me liking a little kid my age.
>>77853687
real heterosexuality implies reproducing.
They're just masturbators who use women to get themselves off. Not gay or even straight, just autosexual
>>77851845
You have to be born into it. I supposed you could try to choose, but your heart really wouldn't be into it.
>>77853614
>But a hairy, full grown grown man? No way. How would you even get your dick up? And why, as a young handsome man would you want to choose that?
Mostly bottoms are the ones who prefer hairy men dominating, and tops are the ones who prefer twinks - my guess.
>>77851845
More of girl in pic plz
>>77852996
Are you a Muslim or do you just misinterpret christianity?
>>77853802
So you just changed the definition of heterosexual to your liking.
>>77853614
There are some older men that are really good looking though and I'm not even gay.
>>77853618
Your sarcasm is shit.
>>77852321
this desu. Even in kindergarten and primary school you could always tell. Boys who always hanged around girls, playing girly games and whatnot or butch girls playing football with boys and getting into fights.
I know these two brothers and one of them was a flamboyant queer since I met him in primary school. The other one is a bald headed slavnigger, pseudo-thug and straight af. Same family, same upbringing, same school, everything.
>>77853802
I through Amish cant use computers
>>77851845
having deep seeded emotional issues
having desperate need to feel different
generally being a pervert
>>77852054
>>77852307
can you point to a peer reviewed scientific journal entry that shows there is a "gay gene"?
>>77852130
OK, that was funny :)
>>77852130
straight man here.
Let a gay dude suck my dick in college.
Didn't turn me gay, no desires for men or even traps, but holy fuck did that guy suck the skin off my dick.
I could see being homosexual for the pragmatic reason that the sex will probably be much better.
Honestly wish i was gay desu
>>77851845
drain bamage.
>>77851845
the bigger question is....how do we cure it
>>77853111
Straights are better than faggots. Even if they fornicate, at least they're not gay.
>>77854889
Kill all gay men
>>77854889
Reverse the sexual revolution and make celibacy and monastic life an acceptable vocation with societal support again
Those who lack attraction to women instead are encouraged to reject sexuality entirely and serve a higher cause.
>>77855026
t. virgin ?
>>77851845
>vegeta
wat
>>77854985
Without straight degenerates separating sex from reproduction, nobody would ever have seen homosex as remotely acceptable.
You lose the ground to soundly fight faggotry when you are ok with promiscuity and contraception.
![105729i_ts[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YwB3YYg.jpg "105729i_ts[1].jpg")
>>77854889
Take two of these and call me in the morning.
>>77855098
Virgin shaming. Perfect example of the total depravity of modern society.
Chastity is suddenly something to be ashamed of. Bet if I was a woman you'd be singing a different tune.
If society wasn't so sexualized in the first place, those who would end up being faggots, might instead become celibates and accomplish great things.
>>77853878
That makes sense. Also learned a new word. Twink. Will remember if i ever need to go gay.
>>77854055
Yeah I guess. But still, cant see myself choosing that over a ugly woman.
>>77851845
Both. I know I wasn't born gay
>>77855117
No you don't. That's a false equivalence. Faggots are still wrong whether or not straights are also wrong.
"Being born gay" is a meme.
People get gay through their life, their environment and outer influence. Most gay people were raised not manly enough and became gay.
I've had gay thoughts since I was about 11, when I got a crush on my friend. I wish I could fix it but I just can't stop wanting dicks. I've never acted on this though but when I see pictures of them I think they just look so nice.
By choice I know because I choose
Sams thing with the voice, I know fags that let it come and go
I'm a big fan of epigenetics. I believe that homosexuality is a mix of nurture and nature.
I also believe that people who sexually identify as dolphins need to be locked up, just like we do with those who think they're Napoleon Bonaparte.
Smartest thing the transgenders did was associate themselves with LGB.
>>77855284
I never said faggots aren't wrong.
I said that they'd never have gotten promoted to the extend they do without Straights normalizing fornication first. The whole "free love" in the 60's and so on.
You talk about slippery slope but fail to realize what was up on that slope BEFORE faggotry... which was premarital sex.
>>77855554
I never said anything about a slipper slope. But your argument is a logical non sequitur. Heterosexual promiscuity has literally nothing to do with homosexual anything.
>>77855975
When you look at it from a Christian standpoint, or even biological one they are very related.
both are about material pleasure without union with a life partner or reproduction.
>>77851845
Where are the prove that you can be born gay?
>>77851845
I am a bisexual male. Did not choose it. Believe me.
>>77857450
You can choose to be celibate or marry a woman, just like a straight man can choose to not cheat on his wife for another woman just for chasing novelty
>>77857728
I might choose to fuck a guy if he's into me and wants to, not sure yet though.
>>77851845
by being mentally ill which is ok. Everyone can get sick, the problem is that when someone does not acknowledge that they are ill and don't seek treatment.
i hear the sandniggers are developing further tests to detect faggotry and possibly find a cure.
so far here is a link for a gay screening test in arab airports.
http://archive.is/tYhDX
>>77851845
Scientists are said to be reaching the Bottom of the problem.
they just have to Stick with the research Straight away
>>77851845
brainwashing
>>77854473
That's pretty fucking gay.
>>77852130
>>77851845
For genuine homosexuals its either a genetic defect or somethings messes them up during childhood. Most of the people who claim to be gay in the modern western world are either trendy libtards looking for snowflake status or degenerate hypersexual fetish-driven maniacs looking for new ways to thrill themselves. You only need to look on the "B" section of this website to see this madness.
>>77852408
Pretty much this. /b has become riddled with faggotry.
>>77851845
Both. By choice, especially nowadays because it's "trendy" and "progressive", the new normal. The rest - mental illness. There is no debate about it. Furthermore, some months ago, I'd dare say at least 1 year ago, an anon from USA linked to some excerpts from a paper that debated the fact that around the 60-70, all the scientists that proved it is a mental illness, were forced, even under threats, to bury all research. Exactly when the gay culture formed. I don't have the study on me right now, but whoever read it, knows how sick and disgusting this culture is. Heretics.
>>77851845
As a fag myself it's mostly choice.
>>77851845
Neither, it's a developed mental illness
>>77854473
>straight man
>let a gay dude suck my dick
I don't think so, Jim
>>77851845
>>77852321
Same story for cousin here, except he wasn't in a liberal family, as he grew in a country that didn't have "progressive ideas" back then.
His two brothers are perfectly straight, one older, one younger, so it's not education.
---------------
If it's not by birth, how did you choose to be straight?
>>77860343
How did you manage to turn yourself gay?
>>77861231
Generally spending a lot of time around guys, lots of gay shit in general. Growing upwith a liberal mother and with access to porn helped
>>77851845
Gay guy here, being gay is fine and dandy but if I got to chose, I'd rather be straight. I want a real relationship and love, generally men are too promiscuous for my taste. I want to emotionally connect with someone before I have sex with them.
>>77851845
I was CONDITIONED to be a faggot by pol threads! >:(
>>77851845
well someone who is homosexual is a person who in some instances has a predisposed nervous system just like a specific weed can only grow on specific soil.
but the simple fact of the matter is that homosexuality requires an action of at least some kind in order to become in the material plane, that thing.
so a homosexual is typically someone who starts off masturbating a lot and has no interest in anything higher than their own pleasures and so if starts having sex with assholes.
obivously if this same person were brought up not to masturbate, or at least respect sex and respect the seed, transmuting the sexual energy, then this very same person who in one life is a ranging homosexual, in another life is an upright citizen who is totally above all sexual perversion.
>>77852130
Kekkity kek
>>77851845
Its well documented that certain factors give someone a much higher likelyhood of being gay. Like the more older brothers you have, the more likely you will be gay. This is thought to stem from an immune response that may occur in the womb.
Also, how many gay dudes have tried to 'pray the gay away' or get a treatment to change them so they are no lobger attracted to other dudes. None of these 'treatments' have ever been shown to be effective. You can't change your sexual preference by willing it...theres no accounting for desire.
>>77863410
Homosexuals "born" that way are born Eunuchs
they have no attraction to women
they have the GIFT of celibacy and faggotry is a trap to lead them away from it
this is why you see all those stats about so many smart people being gay. It's because they're born with no desire to pursue women, but the greatest of them just drop all desire entirely .
It's not that being a faggot makes you smarter, it's that being smarter makes you more likely to be celibate / shun women and this group may get tempted by faggotry
>>77863410
your message will never get across to all the "straight" people in this thread who think they're better than faggots but fuck outside of marriage.
>>77853173
yes it can, but u will stay a faggot
>>77852748
gay lead double lives, always have
>>77852321
I grew up with a very gay acting cousin also. I think hes a closet gay though because he's a pretty strict christian and grew up being told it as wrong. But at the same time his mom used to put dresses on him and treat him like a girl because her first child was a girl and died. And she really wanted a girl so he was one for the first 5 years of his life before she freaked out and tried to change it.
>>77854473
...did you at least say no homo after?
>>77854473
BROJOB! BROJOB!
>>77851845
They choose it and are attracted to degeneracy. Just like the new fad of gays getting their arms and legs cut off to become fashionable.
>>77864684
>new fad of gays getting their arms and legs cut off to become fashionable.
This is part of the ultimate goal of transhumanism and turning the body/mind into a machine with replaceable parts. (really anti-humanism)
/pol/ is pro eugenics and pro transhumanism and is part of the same agenda just for different reasons. They don't realize that the trans/fag agenda and the technology agenda are one and the same.
>>77854473
Did you cum?
Did he swallow?
>>77865146
/pol/ is not pro transhuman, that's pure NWO degeneracy.
>just put your soul in this box goy, we'll look after it for you
>>77866018
You'd be surprised how many people here are because they think they can genetically enhance the "Aryan ubermensch race"
But even then, few realize the internet itself IS proto-transhumanism. You already have 4chan and Jewgle implanted into your brain mentally.
Question for /pol/. Would you rather have your daughter marry a dude whobis secretly gay and fucking dudes behind her back? Or would you rather have gays be accepted in our culture/society?
>>77851845
>1 post by this id
>all these fucking newfags and other shills replying
kek smite them all
>>77851845
im gay.
i wish I was straight, it would have been waaaaay less hassle and drama.
but really, I have no feelings for tits and vagina.
>>77852130
Nicely done.
>People choose to be gay
Would love to know who would choose this. How actually retarded do you have to be to think people would purposely choose this for fun? Why would anyone sign up for a life of ridicule? Being told they are crazy or ill over and over. Having their parents cut them out of their lives. I mean this is just modern places. People choose to get tossed off buildings. People choose to be burned to death. Feel free to explain that one.
Most gays had a poor relationship with their father, or were brought up by a single mother
This includes lesbians
>>77851845
Thats legit the most abominable meal Ive seen. Why are women allowed to cook again ? This new gen of women will poison you for six lifetimes before you even finish your plate
>>77852431
> 50% of homos were molested as children
source?
>>77866850
>Most gays had a poor relationship with their father
causation or coincidence?
thinking about it my father is always absent working. Even now we struggle to find something to talk about. Growing up I was always envious of other boys who had their "father and son" time. Especially when one consumes western media where its common to portray such things....I think I wanted that.
lots of gay men have internal daddy issues T B H. Go to any gay forum and you'll find twinks looking to date older men, some even exclusively--even though the twinks can easily get someone else way hotter their age.
>>77851845
If they're 'born that way' they accept that there is a 'gay gene' and that means we can manipulate said gene to eradicate homosexuality.
In all honesty though, it's both. They're born with a mutation in their genes to find something they shouldn't be attracted to and made it attractive to their sexual desires. It's the same principle with fetishes and why being gay should be considered a fetish. The choice part comes when they make the decision to have intercourse with the same sex. It's the same principle as being a pedophile.
>inb4 hurr durr muh fallacy gays aren't pedos
They're not pedophiles but they have the same sort of mutation that makes them find the same sex attractive just the same that pedophiles have a mutation that makes them find children attractive. The choice can be made to not have sex with a member of the same sex just as the choice can be made to not have sex with the child you find attractive. When you act on these urges though, that's when shit rolls downhill. There are consequences to your actions, get over it.
>>77852321
>He also grew up in a very liberal household in Maryland, so there's that in play too. Basically, his behavior was likely never discouraged.
Most likely his behavior was not only never discouraged but actively encouraged instead, one way or another puberty is going to hit him like a dump truck.
>>77867030
I'm only here to post about this disgusting food too. Absolutely horrible
>>77851845
jew magic.
>>77851845
Pre-disposed at Birth, but you can still have heterosexual relationships.
>>77855154
Under rated post
>>77854473
you are def gay
>>77871320
sauce?
>>77855404
Then just..you know....be gay faggot.
>>77852784
>gayness infects
>I'm a Doctor
heh
>>77852822
I'd have more time for homos if it wasn't for all the fakes. Those that would have been gay no matter what can live.
>>77859744
wew
>>77851845
The grabblers dun it
>>77851845
Its caused by bio-chemical manipulation or psycho-social manipulation, or both.
>>77851845
>by birth or by choice?
By jews
>>77864456
based Novac
Ego formation disturbance during Lacanian mirror phase for gay males and some females. Hormone disturbance for hairy bulldykes. Childhood sexual abuse. Maybe a choice for some women. Never physiological in people with normal physical sexual development. Nobody is born with the 'wrong brain' and is otherwise normal.
>>77851845
Environmental influences and choice.
/thread
>>77851845
by starting a thread
>>77851845
Hey I just saw you on the front page of 4chan and I know a lot of guys are going to pounce on me for this but you really shouldn't come to this site and if you do especially not /pol/. I only read some of the comments and it looks like you are taking it well but sometimes people post really bad stuff on here and I don't think you are ready for it. Japan is a country I have a lot of interest in and that's one of the reasons I come to 4chan, I know a little bit about your culture from school and the books I have read and I don't think your honor based upbringing is really going to understand what the kids on this forum do. They are probably going to try to make you show your breasts (write stuff like Tits or GTFO) or something like that or post violent pics. Some people on here even joke about incest. I don't want to come off as lecturing you but I just don't know why you came here. Did some white guy you are dating tell you to come to this site? He probably thought it would be funny to see your reaction when people start posting things that you can't handle. I hope you take my advice, I don't really know what else to say except you might want to try /int/ that is usually where people go to talk to people from other countries. I'm not just doing this because you are so pretty or something like that, I realize you are thousands of miles away and there isn't much of a chance that we could ever meet each other. I just want you to know that you deserve better than this site and whatever creepy white guy sent you here, you should be with someone that respects you and doesn't put you in an awkward position like this. I like 4chan and I like /pol/ but I just don't want to see you get hurt here.
You are born a homossexual as much as you are born a murderer. Everyone has the potential in them, life pushes them towards it. In the end it is pure degeneracy.
The real problem is liberalism having gay people believe that being gay is as much a part of their identity as their race and gender. Fucking idiots.
