Should Texas have a referendum to get the fuck out of the sinking ship that is the USA?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/texas-secession-movement-brexit-eu-referendum
It would be nice, BUT, the govt. isn't about to relocate Ft. Hood, etc.
SC is in the same boat, and we've got 7-8 military installations, that would make it impossible.
>>77805387
If we don't get Trump in office they should consider it.
texas gonna be shookass if they even try
Texas just murdered Mexico forever, the nation's capital should move to Texas
>>77805827
>Implying Dixie and every border state but California won't come with us
>>77805387
Yes, keep the mexicos pls
Are all Texans like Ghost and Alex Jones? I've never been there.
>>77806150
dixie is fucking imasculated, they're all riddled with insecurities to and various tensions to band together to ever fight
>>77806281
Not all, you'd be surprised how similar some of us are to your own people, really.
>>77805387
Ha, go for it fags. Texas economic growth is primarily due to its tech sector. You think all those big tech companies would stay if Texas succeeded? Get real.
>>77806341
When push comes to shove, the direction will be decided by white people. Dixie is a lot better off than statistics indicate if you remove nigger/spic.
>>77806546
white dixie people? are you serious
>>77806475
>You think all those big tech companies would stay if Texas succeeded?
what are the chances after Texit:
>lower taxes
>higher taxes
Tax is the only reason why tech moved to texas in the first place
>>77806773
that's why denver is gaining more tech than texas, because low taxes. and a better educated workforce
>>77806773
NO STATE TAX MOTHER FUCKERS!!!!
>>77806475
exactly.
step 1. secede.
step 2. usa imposes sanctions
step 3. white people move to usa
step 4. texas votes to join up with mexico
step 5. use your imagination on this one.
>>77806946
Austin needs to legalize weed to attract all the techy and actually update their public transport infrastructure. Moving there in a month and holy fuck does traffic suck.
>>77806946
No, all the stoners are moving to CO for le weed bro, it just so happens a lot of stoners work in tech
>>77805387
I'm from new york city and sick of all the POZ here (I'm part of the 23% non-Jewish non-Hispanic community, and I don't live on Staten Island), can I immigrate to your new political paradise?
>>77807089
so stoners are more educated
>>77807074
If anything white people would move to Texas. Its the America of America
>>77805685
The US has bases in several different countries. leaving the US doesn't mean we would become enemies; just means we wouldn't have to deal with US laws.
>>77805387
Fuck no
Texas uses more federal money for border patrol than every other state combined
They wouldn't be able to keep the mexicans at bay, much less BUILD WALL, without the help of the rest of the union
>>77807196
Sure lets go with that.
You guys literally cant leave, once you're a state you cannot leave, its in one of your fancy papers with all your laws etc
I like most of the rest of the USA, and we're stronger together, leaving is a dumb idea.
t. Texan
>>77807267
>it's another "you need the union" episode
>>77805387
yes and we are taking steps to ensure that we will break away once everything is in motion
>reinforcing our solitary power grid (yes the one that is ONLY for Texans)
>creating our own gold backed currency (and asking the feds for our gold is "supposedly" in knox)
>
>>77807267
Because were one of the last few states, and the biggest one on the southern boarder actually trying to stem immigration. But its to the point now where if they catch you crossing they get told to just "take a name and let them go." Its pretty shit right now. Buddies in the BC
>>77807365
>Germany
>saying no border protection is needed
Why am I not surprised?
>>77805387
no. stop being such a spoiled bitch, texas
>>77807365
nobody asked for your opinion yuh nigger spoiled kraut.
life must be easy when youre a billion years old.
>Britain leaving the EU is okay
>Texas leaving the US is not okay
k
>>77807515
I'm saying no union is needed.
>>77807771
I don't care.
>>77807958
guess youre right. i forgot how well the confederate states did economically when they seceded.
>>77808165
Things have change now. Guess where all the factories are now? Not in the north, they all moved south or west.
>>77808350
factories are independent from the economy?
a seccession wouldnt reform the economy, rendering those factories useless?
the only thing thatd save texas is its tech economy, and even that is starting to falter.
>>77805387
No texas gets a lot of free funding and grants from the fed
>>77808510
Texas has the most diversified economy in the Country. It has large oil reserves, huge tech industry, massive agricultural industry, massive military complex along with its own state run AIRFORCE. It even has its own electrical grid.
>>77808628
We have the only state side facility for disassembly and assembly of nuclear weapons. That explains that, and they still havent given us our gold from the reseves
Unless the union fails they aren't going anywhere. We're all on this boat together :^)
>>77807267
We still pay more in federal taxes than we receive in federal money. We're one of the few fiscally solvent states in the south.
I wish Texas the best
A little tip to my Texano brothers: if you ever get your independence, do not make the same mistake that we did
>>77805387
Ideally, yes.
>>77805387
#TEXIT
>>77809119
The issue of secession was decided already.
Once a state, Always a state.
>>77807256
No more gib me dats in Texas would mean spic, nigger and muslim flight to 'murica, and we have a huge amount of the greaser invaders, if they left Texas would easily be majority White again.
>>77805387
>>77805387
Aren't they threatening that like every two years?
>>77807267
Dumbass, jewed fed government has repeatedly stopped Texas from enforcing our border and as already pointed out we lose to fed money grabbing, that would stop and have more than needed.
>>77809292
Laughably false.
>>77809552
Alright south carolina you ready to get your ass wooped again.
>>77809007
messihole is one long string of mistakes so god knows which one you're referring to.
If Texas is so great, why do so many of you pickup driving faggots move to Colorado? Stay in your shithole state.
>>77809666
We invited the Anglo to help us colonize the place, they became huge in numbers and subsequently took over the state.
Miss you bobo.
>>77805387
The rest of us should vote on kicking their asses out. Fuck state and its ppl are worthless
Texan here, if we leave I don't want to take any other state with us. The southeast is full of niggers and they should get Texan citizenship. It's bad enough we are full of katrina trash in houston.
>>77807313
LMAO a fucking bong is trying to tell me about my country
Texas was never legally admitted into the union fuckboy
>>77809742
Dude weed. Give it..... maybe a year and a half and well have our own Marijuana boom.
>>77809848
should not*
>>77807885
Seems so.
>>77806992
You mean no state income tax. But don't worry, they make up for it with vehicle registration/inspection fees, property taxes, state sales tax, etc.
>>77809852
That feel when the foreigner knows more about American history than the American.
1869 case on Texas secession
When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State.
>>77809848
I feel so sorry for my dad.
>we move and he finds us a really nice apt complex
>katrina
The whole place was a fucking sty in a month. Duck ponds littered to the point the ducks left, fucking break ins and vandilism. And that place is still fucked with thos transplants
>>77809809
t. Yankee scum who has literally never met a Texan
Texans are more intelligent and friendly than people from your shit hole state.
Enjoy being a tiny nothing state in comparison to our #12 in the world economy (ranked as a country)
>>77810074
Like what, 25 15 dollars for an inspection? 50 for a registration. Property tax boo hoo, and sales tax boo hoo.
Texas is the reason why I think conservatism is objectively superior to liberalism.
Take New England too, we are white man's late hope in America.
texans are pussies that accept millions of illegals and doesn't mind fucking over natives to help the illegals
Mfw all of these shills saying we can't leave.
Who cares?
Go suck a cock about it if you're that butthurt.
>>77810596
> texas
> white
Duuude!
>>77810646
State Policy has nothing to do with that, border control and accepting illegals comes from the top.
>>77810658
Try to leave. Watching Austin and Houston burn in a march to the sea would be much more exciting than Atlanta. Just remember you lost the first time too.
>>77809629
> implying most of the Military isn't made of southerners
> implying the South doesn't own more guns than then north
>>77810866
>Implying all of the south would leave with you
>Implying Texas is anything more than a cog in the US machine.
We are able to be great because we do it together. United we stand.
>>77810866
>>77810658
Do you guys understand that they have a very good plan for this right? A Texas secession would result in a full on invasion of Texas. It simply would not work.
>>77810177
LMAO that feel when you try to be smug but construct a strawman instead
You're linking a case talking about Texas secession during the Civil War, not admission to the union, you brain dead moron rofl
i feel like texas votes to secede every year
>>77810950
Isnt 75% or the military from Texas? Or at least 75% of the actuall combat branches
>>77811069
That is what happened when they tried to succeed from the union the first time how they got in is irrelevant. Try to leave you will get invaded.
>>77811118
no but the military at large is majority southern.
>>77811118
They aren't allowed to carry weapons on base, it's not like they'd be able to fight back. All you guys with your revolution and secession fantasies have no fucking idea how ready they are for these scenarios. You will not win.
>>77805387
Can Utah come? I don't want commiefornia coming into my state.
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>>77811118
>>77806475
>Ha, go for it fags. Ireland economic growth is primarily due to Google's offshore corporation. You think all those big tech nigger-faggots would stay if Ireland was more prosperous than before and taxed them even less? Get real.
>>77805387
We rant and rave about democracy but historically most of the citizens of the South and the Confederacy (including Texas) wanted to break off. They weren't allowed to, and were attacked by force. Even in the last century and a half since, Texas for example if ever polled would have mostly answered they would like to be sovereign, independent. But it never happened. Yet everyone still believes 'muh democracy'. In a truly democratic world, if most of the citizens of an area wanted something, it would be happened or there would at least be a vote.
Off course they'll wait until the next few years when it's filled with liberal migrant and mexican descendants, and the vote will go 51% stay in US or something like that. This is how 'democracy' works. Wait until you have enough citizens in an area to vote for a desired outcome before you give them a choice of a vote.
>>77807224
we already are, so we can make secession happen.
the only reason there is anyone talking shit back to us in this thread is because we're winning. and GOPe is literally too lazy to sit down at the bargaining table and rewrite the electoral map so that US elections stay fair after it happens.
>>77811659
I'm talking shit because you're delusional and think secession would end in anything but slaughter and domination for Texas. You have no idea what's coming if you faggots try it. You. will. lose.
Good luck shipping anything through the gulf after your gone.
>>77807267
>this fucking meme again
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_tax_revenue_by_state
Rank State Gross collections[2] Revenue per capita (est.) Ratio to GSP[3]
2 Texas $219,459,878,000 $8,421.59 15.7%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state
State Retirement benefits Nonretirement benefits Grants Contracts Salaries and wages Total
Texas $72,354 $64,922 $35,184 $39,051 $22,947 $234,459
do you see these numbers? texan individuals send $219 billion to the US, while the US sends back $234 billion. well! that must mean we "need" the US, right?
fuckin' nope, time to go to school faggot
after seceding every single dollar that used to go to the US does not. that's over $200 billion in private hands, every year, which texans can use to build their own social safety net if they so desire -- but since it won't exist already, there will be several years of unfettered market capitalism solving those problems before government has any chance to. and what liberal faggot wants to be a politician in texas anymore once they're no longer a US state? you're outnumbered 100:1 once the EBT cards don't work at our stores anymore and the nigs all move out via NM, CO and LA. haha.
second. benefits are paid out No Matter What. every US citizen is entitled to receive those, right? that's your social security and medicare and so on. except if you are on this shit, you are _already_ a cancer on the economy, no matter how good of a person you are. so you either keep your US citizenship and give us free money the US gave you, or you stay texan because lo and behold, you apparently still have the capacity to work for a living!
third. grants, contracts salaries and wages go out the door. but, they are all a form of subsidy. the US govt is the buyer, that means they are inherently market dislocations. these are paid largely to the defense industry, of which texas already has its own, ready to kick into high gear and create jobs.
>>77808350
lol uh yeah they moved way west
to china. da fuck, nigga
>>77811300
Actually in Texas military can cary on base now. After the navy marine depo got shot up, good ol Greg Abbott passes a ill that lets service men cary on base and in recruiting stations
>>77811418
Im not daying youre wrong, but that charts from 03 bro.
>>77812502
Enjoy your Texas economy under a blockade you dipshit lmao
Why are all "muh revolution" faggots completely unaware of how things would go down?
>>77812575
I doubt the new stats are crazy different.
>>77809778
>became huge in numbers
I guess they don't teach you history in messihole? There were only 35 thousand people in Texas at the time of the revolution.
More fun trivia, spain only had 2500 people in Texas for 131 years, up until messihole revolted, and only those few were there after Spain saw French settlements so stuck those soldiers in outposts and catholics in some churches to give lip service to them claiming the place, it was uninhabited no man's land. After messihole revolted and claimed it for themselves they pushed for more settlements to use as a buffer against indian raids(they loved raiding messicans,) and better presence than the nothing 2500. Doing so brought it up to the meager 35000. messihole "possessed" Texas for 17 years, only settlers being the new arrivals, and when Texas split, the messcans there said adios to messihole and became Texans, willingly(not surprising if you ever read soldier biographies of the Texas civil war, messihole didn't do shit to protect messcans from indian raids, hung them out to dry, no law and order, no stable supplies, so pretty much the only thing messihole has ever been consistent on, being a mess.)
>>77811787
>>77811983
>the US military will actually occupy texas, let alone firing any shots
absolute kek. you don't even have the political capital to make US territories pay income taxes, but that's literally the only argument you have, that we need your handouts more than you need our tax revenue. prepare for a rude awakening the day texas simply walks out of congress after your own representatives get cucked into signing a peace treaty.
>>77807885
not the same boat and you know it
>>77812630
>i'll hit you if you leave!!!!!
lol bye felicia
>>77805387
Kek. Texit campaign, I can see it now.
>>77812551
This may come as a shock to you, but there is still manufacturing in the US. It's just you don't see it because you live up north where every single company is looking to get out of that area.
>>77805387
Can I apply for Texas citizenship?
I can skin a buck and run a trout line.
>>77812915
It's entirely the same boat. Hell Texas was a country that decided to join the US, and Britain was a country that decided to join the EU. BTW the EU can make and pass laws that affect ALL the countries in it, just like the US can with states.
>>77812882
Have fun living in your hypothetical wasteland.
>>77812657
13 years bro. Funny thing though, im trying to find a heat map for 2015 like the one you posted. Havnt found one buy i did find that 72% of the entire military is white.....
>>77812882
The fact that you don't even know what force you would be up against is enough to tell me that you will lose within weeks. It wouldn't be the military.
>>77812953
No they will blockade you and starve you out while chipping away. You will not win. I'm telling you this in the hopes that some of you come to your senses and drop this childish fantasy. This isn't 1776. You're fucked if you try anything.
>be texan
>threaten secession
this is all you queers talk about yet here you remain
either do it or stfu about it
>>77805387
God i hope they do and get their shit pushed up inside them so hard their eyes pop out. Why would you tear apart the greatest union on earth? To prove some asinine lone star bullshit that doesnt even matter
>>77813142
We have enough hank fans
>>77813355
Actually Abott is doing something, he is calling for a constitutional convention.
Doesn't Texas have the right to vote to leave the union if they choose? I thought that was a condition Texas put forth when they joined.
>>77813382
And who knows more about pushing shit than a poo-in-loo?
>>77805387
Friendly reminder you are nothing without New York and California.
>>77813437
GOD DAMN ABOTT IS THE BEST GOV
>>77813503
Technically it doesn't, what it does have though is the power to split the state into 5 separate states and take over the senate and house
>>77813524
Jew york can fuck off. California gets a little pass. Theyre basicly our cousin. That star on the Cali flag is a lone star for a reason
>>77813667
Is this really how Texans think? You understand this is a pure masturbatory fantasy right?
>>77813515
Not an argument.
Im an american and southern at that and the delusions of texans are unbelievable. Hey guys, it was decided that leaving the union is in fact illegal and it was the greatest loss of white american life the country ever experienced.
>>77812502
>secedes
>still uses USD as its currency
topcuck
>>77805685
Texas would be like Okinawa.
I can see Texas splitting into 2 states which it can legally do. Not even King obongo can say no to it. The blue south state and the red north state. The blue one would probably have to start a state income tax for its socialist programs and immigration relaxation. The only reason Texas doesn't have a state tax is because the sales tax is more fair. It doesn't matter if you're on welfare or illegal you still pay state taxes.
>>77805387
>Britain
>divide and conquer shill thread
Either become state number 51 or shut the fuck up.
>>77809778
Yeah you fucked up. Your country didn't and still doesn't trust its native population, the same group that sends back remittances from the US that makes up 1/3 of its economy. That land should have gone to mestizos
>>77815078
>That land should have gone to mestizos
Top kek no. >>77812726 In fact it would have been best for messcans if the US had taken over messihole completely.
>>77805387
Texas is 40%mexican lmao
>>77815384
Yep, a huge amount of the spic invasion has gone to Texas. If Texas were to split, no more US gib me dats, they'd and nogs would make a mad dash to 'murica to stay on the gib me dats train, Texas would become White majority overnight.
>>77805387
All the southern border states are infested with mexican nationalist spic scum. Succession basically means mexican annexation. I hope we do another Sherman's march if those faggots start spouting their tejano Texan hero bullshit.
>>77813837
No its fact. http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/california/state-flag/flag-california the bear of strenght and the star of texas. Both fought mexicans
>>77815378
History is never the 4th qtr with a 2 min warning. It's always the 1qtr
>>77816000
1st qtr there were no metzos in Texas, nor 2nd, or 3rd.
>>77805387
Honestly, Texas elects insane people to the state level that are only kept in check by the federal levl.
It's hard to say whether this is just reaction to national politics or if Texas actually is theocratic, but we've been governed by insane coorporate blowing super-christan oligarchs for 20 year.
Our last governor held a prayer meeting in a football stadium to pray for the end of the drought (and also collect campaign donations from the faithful) organized with taxpayer money.
>>77814457
It taxes the oil industry to make up for not having an income tax.
>>77816238
4th qtr argument. Also, who was Juan seguin....
>>77805387
Yes, but they wouldn't call it a "referendum." They'd call it a Bug-Out.
texas needs to stop being fucking pussies and do it!
Would probably be in the worlds top 15 countries on GDP if it did and its one of the few places on earth thats able to benefit from nuclear power, oil and all types of renewable energy
>>77805387
Nooo Texas don't leave, we can still make it Great Again. If Trump isn't elected Texas should do it, Texas would be so much better off without the Federal government as it is now, and how it would be under Clinton. If any State has the military and economic power to do it, it's Texas.
>>77817229
You = speaking from ignorance, and there's no reason to be, history is online, look it up.
>>77805387
No, USA still number one!!!
>>77810646
The Federal government forces them to do so and the DoJ sues them when they try to enforce the law. Otherwise known as tyranny.
>>77817341
I think our economy is equall to Australia or Canada. One or the other
>>77817555
Boarder patrol is at the poont now if the catch an illegal they simply take a name and let them pass. Higher ups are interfering alot
>>77817614
Exactly, If i were a betting man, I'd say texas will flourish better than any country currently in the EU bar Germany and Britain
Why be tied down by Obama/Hillary and their god awful federal policies
>>77817555
>The Federal government forces them to do so and the DoJ sues them when they try to enforce the law. Otherwise known as tyranny.
>Otherwise known as tyranny
>Tyranny
Do you expect any less from Obama and the democrats? Europe is liberal as fuck and even we fucking hate Obama, it amazes me that democrats argue hes done a good job when hes managed to undo the relations between the USA and Russia which took bush, Clinton and bush decades to build!
>>77818695
He also single handedly set the us back 50 years in terms of race relations
>my son would look like trayvon
>the mizzou protesters are brave for fighting this racism
>>77813277
There is literally no winning scenario for the federal government if another civil war occurs. Media kills it.
>>77805387
If Trump loses, absolutely.
I would demand it.
>>77805387
I will move my ass to Texas and fight with you if you guys get some traction behind this
Bong here, I love Texas.
>>77818695
He has literally set the country back in every single department. Healthcare, education, foreign affairs, the military, the border, state's rights, race relations, government spending and bureacracy, the economy, ITS ALL A FUCKING MESS. He really is like a machurian candidate, he hasn't done a single positive thing for the country. Even when he's representing us abroad he shames the country and embarrasses us at every opportunity.
Fortunately the country is so resilient that we can still get it back, its not too late yet.
>>77817614
Texas has a bigger GDP than Canada, much bigger than Australia, closing in on Brazil. Texas would knock Canada out of the top ten list, taking 10th place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
>>77805387
Not a big fan of the fed or the never ending march towards the centralization of power.
I would be fine with Texas seceding.
Knowing how the world works though I don't think there is a chance in hell of it actually happening.
I still don't believe Britain can even leave the EU regardless if Brexit is victorious or not.
The people with power hold so many of the cards. Why would they allow it? I don't think they really fear resistance by the people and know that temporary mediocrity is enough to keep most at home watching their TV's.
>>77805387
Commiefornia wrote in the option to leave when we joined the union. Let's unite and purge the lefties. Make the West Frontier great again
