>capitashits will defend this
>>77769708
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>>77769708
A venezuelan would sell his 2 kidneys for 50 dollars free to spend in this place.
>>77769708
>look at all this surplus food waiting for you to purchase
>somehow this is worse than waiting in line for food in a communist country
I once met a highly educated Swede that was dumbfounded that there were 900 brands of shampoo. "Its all so wasteful." If only we had a scientist to run our lives with 100% efficiency like a farm animal...
>>77769708
>socialists will defend this
What, do you get all your commodities from a government fountain up in communism land?
>>77769708
just a store
is your country so poor you don't have supermarkets?
>>77769708
>variety is bad
>you should all have 5 choices grey groop,brown groop,mystery meat,green goop,and yellow goop
>>77769708
>communists triggered by plentiful food
>>77769708
All that colourful packaging. Those damned capilalist pigs.
what's wrong with it? Tons of people are gainfully employed producing and providing these products and people are obviously want these sorts of products otherwise these companies will go out of business or be replaced by a better product.
/pol/ btfo
you guys are literally defending that just like OP said you would
>>77770026
Mademoiselle, I suggest the number eight.
>>77769708
Would you rather be socialist and have a shortage of basic consumer goods like toilet paper?
I remember reading a story of a high ranking party leader from the USSR visiting America and being shown around a Supermarket. He exclaimed that not even the head of state had access to this kind of food back in the motherland. It made him question everything.
Capitalism for the fucking win
>>77770137
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>77769708
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>>77769708
Finland when i see you make posts like that I'm almost glad your continent is getting invaded so you'll see how fragile the system your fathers set for you and you take for granted is.
>>77769912
Oh, I see. So socialists want every store to be Wallmarts that only sell Wallmart-brand products.
>>77769708
>Jew aisle in the bottom left
>>77770278
Supermarkets here throw away so much food daily it's insane. Most managers will hook you up with food if you ask them but dumpster diving is illegal some places. Plus who wants to eat it once it's been thrown in a trash can when they will just give it to you anyways.
A well stocked super market with shelves of food?
Well to be honest none of thats real food. Its food products. I'd rather go to a farmers market or just get it out of the garden. Store bought food is so bland now. My tomatoes are orgasmic.
>>77770592
The jew aisle is the one that's 50% off.
And here is the result of your wonderful system.
Have your fun while it lasts.
>>77769708
Who wouldn't? More in the back btw famicom.
>>77770707
Found any good thrift shops lately? Also, how is your vinyl collection going?
>>77770779
And here's that same landfill after it's full and covered with dirt:
>>77770779
>a finnish defending communism
What?
>>77770707
I go to the flea market and get fresh produce sold by the amish, it's great.
I worked at a supermarket when I was younger and we would throw away literally Tons of food when it was close to expiration but was still good to eat.
>>77770779
You're implying this doesn't happen in every country?
>>77769708
Never have I seen such an amazing selection of pickles.
>>77770779
And here's a people's socialist landfill for comparison:
>>77770957
There was a short but bloody civil war a long time ago before Finland got it's independence, safe to say a few commies slipped through the cracks.
>>77769912
That's hilarious considering capitalism is way more efficient at allocating resources. I mean you can say something about manufactured obsolescence but for things like clothes or shampoo you are not going to have a better way to reduce waste.
For food it's a little tricky, since when food prices collapse they destroy excess to prevent further price decreases instead of giving it out, even when people are starving. Regulations against destroying reserves could work well though.
>>77770591
That is assuming they offer products you actually want. The socialist would only stock products the central planning committee thinks you need or should use.
>>77771154
Maybe he's a soviet rape baby
>>77770779
So where do you put all the discarded packaging in a socialist system? A landfill that's slightly less colorful?
>>77771258
At least with capitalist food production you're not going to get a Holodomor.
People responding to this and saying "WOW I BET SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM IS BETTER HUH?? ONE GOVT STORE WITH ONE BRAND"
I didn't think that was the point of this post... Why do you HAVE to embrace any modern system? I thought the point of this post is that buying everything you want in little plastic bags in a store in which you give money to Jew companies is a bad thing. I think there should be no "brands" or "stores". Most people think that is pure lunacy though.
inb4 "MUH TREES MUH NATURE"- yes I've realized that a discussion on 4chan is basically just throwing meaningless phrases and memes back and forth.
>>77771372
Unlikely, I've met my fair share of retarded Jonnes in my time.
>>77771516
Except with communism you get one govt store and no brands because the shelves are all empty.
>Do receiving/ordering for a large grocery store
>The packed shit almost ever goes bad
>almost all food waste is from customers leaving cold/frozen food out, vegtables/fruit rotting, and bakery stuff going bad.
All those things stay good forever and unless they are new products they sell enough to warrant the shelf space.
Why is selection a bad thing?
>>77769912
Well he's right. Capitalism is wasteful. It produces shit because people can sell it for profit, not because it fulfils any need.
With modern technology (supercomputers etc.) a planned, scientific economy will work far better. We'd be on Mars by now.
>>77769708
desu it does seem excessive and decadent but it's better than the alternative
>>77771408
>discarded packaging
they call it dessert
>>77771488
True, those able to pay will be able to receive food as long as it's profitable for the seller.
>>77770592
The cat litter?
>>77771683
Leftists are totalitarian control freaks by definition. They don't like choice unless they are doing the choosing for everyone else.
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>>77769708
that cereal aisle sucks ass
>>77771688
How do you define a need? Also no, I don't believe technology can solve the scarcity distribution problem.
>>77771688
A businessman who makes products people do not want will not stay in business.
>>77769912
is he retarded?
Did you explained it to him with a 100 dollar bill?
There is no economic system more efficient than the market. Anyone who claims otherwise failed economics.
>>77769912
Well maybe he should realize that people are not one size fits all. Different people like different scents and require different formulas for their hair and scalp and are willing to pay more for that.
>>77771688
top kek autist, soviet rockets were notoriously shit and blew up all the time. You see, when the people making the rockets are not paid very well, these things tend to happen. Wasteful capitalism was the only one able to get to the moon as well.
>>77771688
>Well he's right. Capitalism is wasteful. It produces shit because people can sell it for profit, not because it fulfils any need.
Need is a pretty powerful motive to buy something.
>>77772132
The free market did not get America to the moon. The state did that.
>>77771688
And that's why modern communist societies like North Korea and China are so great today, right?
Wow, America can provide its masses of people with cheap, readily available food. Disgusting
>>77771683
>>The packed shit almost ever goes bad
>>almost all food waste is from customers leaving cold/frozen food out, vegtables/fruit rotting, and bakery stuff going bad.
This is all true, I worked for a local supermarket here but the amount of food we threw away was still TONS.
Not only the bakery and the fruits/veggies but we had a deli/hot food area and alot of it was made and sat in the display case never to be bought or eaten.
We did give away some of the bakery items to a local homeless origination so at least it wasn't a total waste but mostly we threw it out.
>>77769944
>fake socialists and capitalists will not defend pic related
>>77772041
>is he retarded?
No probably just autistic. He is a doctor.
>>77772267
The state
funded by tax dollars from rich people
who were rich because capitalism is prosperous
Not to mention the tens of thousands of private companies and contractors they employed.
>>77772347
>>77769708
that's literally just a Wal-mart/HEB on opening day before teen workers stop caring about tidying the store
what the fuck is this pic supposed to mean? that only the US lives in luxury?
>>77769708
Defend what? A fully-stocked grocery store? You're god damn right I'll defend it.
This is some weak bait.
>>77769771
FPBP
>>77772324
My store discounts deli stuff at the end of the day so we never throw it away.
With the exception of fruits/veggies which are sometimes unpredictable, If you guys were throwing out that much food then your managers were over ordering/cooking in the deli.
>>77772182
We get it, you've spent your entire life reading Das Kapital and have yet to be introduced to the real world.
>>77771058
>ergergerger
i remember seeing a gianna michaels porn with this name, does it mean something?
>>77770779
Looks like those two guys are taking a tour through the next world superpower in 20 years.
"liberators" will defend this
I got into an argument with a friend about socialism vs capitalism and he completely btfo me by saying shit like how capitalism causes corruption, greediness, and also about how if it was pure capitalism that prisons would be made for profit and I lost the argument at that point. help me pol
>>77769708
you realize that picture was the soviet union's last nail in the coffin, right?
http://blog.chron.com/thetexican/2014/04/when-boris-yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-clear-lake/
>>77771688
>It produces shit because people can sell it for profit, not because it fulfils any need.
ur a pretty dumb bong
capitalism has never been about 100% efficiency btw, it's about freedom
>>77769708
notice how there is actually food on the shelves though with capilatism?
When Boris Yeltsin toured an American supermarket:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4f6_1424898886
>>77769708
Choice choice choice
SHALL
capitalists will defend supermarkets!
yeah?.....
>>77772636
They did Constantly
So much would be made just to sit in the display and even when it was discounted it wouldn't sell. The manager Joe was retarded and they only reason he wasn't fired that I can think of is we did do great business so nobody cared about the waste.
>>77773106
you aren't a capitalist, you are a prole.
>>77773106
Yeah this thread is stupid. In fact seeing a supermarket changed a leader of the USSRs mind about socialism
https://christopherfountain.com/2016/01/05/when-yeltsin-saw-his-first-american-supermarket-he-knew-the-soviet-union-was-doomed/
>>77773113
So its not the market thats wasteful, it was just your manager.
>>77773430
Yeah I wasn't condemning supermarkets, just speaking about the one I worked at.
>>77770779
Have fun at the bread line
>>77769708
What's OP's point? That there aren't any jars of cum for him to guzzle?
>>77773599
http://imgur.com/gallery/tgafm
>>77773599
Black dick is expensive
>>77773560
Sorry I thought you were the red menace.
In general grocery stores bottom line is too thin to be super wasteful so I will never understand threads like these.
>>77773364
Imagine seeing a Sam's Club, Costco or BJ's Wholesale market....
20 gallon barrels of ketchup and shit, sometimes it boggles the mind what quantity you can buy there. I need one bottle of A-1 sauce but the only thing they sell it a giant 5 pack of 2 liter bottles.
>>77773876
Germany had more food.
>>77773876
Why the fuck would you go to sams to buy a single bottle of BBQ sauce?
>>77773841
Yeah my brother in law works at a supermarket up his way and he puts in alot of time to make sure they don;t over order because bottom line is king obviously. But the non food items will literally sit on the shelf until they are dusty since they are non perishable.
>>77773876
Yeah and if you read the article he says that not even gorbachev or the country's elite had access to what the common citizen in america had. Really blows your mind.
Of course there were still poor people in america that couldn't afford that kind of food.
>>77774155
I didn't but then you have to stop at another store for the other stuff. Can't just make a one stop shop since a 4 person family doesn't need a gallon of mayo.
>>77772807
Those problems exist because of the weakness of the state.
What corruption can truly exist in business? If you don't like how a company is acting you can vote with your wallet. You can't not opt out of taxes levied by a government to pay for corruption and bad programs. You're forced to pay the government for all of its bullshit.
As far as greed, once again, the problem is the state. The more regulations a state imposes, the harder it is for entrepreneurs to establish businesses that compete with the ones you hate. Big business loves big government because they can pay off politicians to regulate competition out of the market directly with red tape and bureaucracy and indirectly with tax breaks that give big business the advantage.
As far a prisons, once again, the problem is the state. Private business has no legal authority to detain people and throw them in prisons, only the state has that authority or the means to give business that authority.
Your friend has misconceptions about what capitalism is. Capitalism is simply the voluntary exchange of goods or trade with both parties expecting to come out ahead.
What your friend really hates is crony capitalism where a massive state is susceptible coercion and corruption. This is why its always better to have a smaller government because the smaller and more limited the government is, the less it is corrupted by big business and lobbyists.
>>77772324
Meat Clerk here, We just rotate our stock and have regular markdown when an Item is three days old in our display case. It starts at 50% off, but if at the end of the day, nobody want it, we can mark it down even to free.
And I have had people turn down free, perfectly good meats, which proves that the excess of capitalism leaves no want for the majority.
>>77769708
yes we will
just with those aisles shown you can make a decent guess at how large the store is
Just in grocery alone you would need to hire six full time employees for your dry goods as well as five to seven part time employees
those employees will be supervised by a selection of around three team leads, and assistant manager, and department manager.
That doesn't include the full time employee for frozen, dairy, health and beauty products, and low 'velocity' products. Each needing at least one full time employee.
That's at least 20 employees for grocery alone.
Then you have the meat department, bakery, pharmacy, deli, and customer service.
For one supermarket all together you need at least 100 people to maintain the store. All working at different shits throughout the day from 4 AM to midnight .
And we aren't even including the vendors who stock their vendor items (Coke, Pepsi, Nabisco, Nestle, Hallmark, etc) and the drivers for the trucks witch make at least five deliveries a day.
Capitalists will defend this because it works.
Source: I work in grocery
>>77774558
Thats like complaining you cant pick up a jar of mayo while you eat out at a restaurant.
>>77771258
Capitalism is not always efficient at allocating resources. Look at personal cars. Everybody drives to work in their 5 seater car all by themselves. That's a massive waste of resources.
>>77775015
No it's not
Have you ever been to Costco, they sell individual items that aren't in bulk. Some things you can buy in a reasonable amount and others your only option is a Giant jar.
>>77774597
>This is why its always better to have a smaller government because the smaller and more limited the government is, the less it is corrupted by big business and lobbyists.
So, you're saying it's ok for big business to make direct, unregulated business with the consumer?
Wouldn't big business be corrupt? Why are they always considered demigods or some holy figure by the "smll guvamant" folks? Are you being naive?
>>77774802
Yeah we would give stuff to a organization for free but Only if they picked it up, so if they didn't come get it we would eat some ourselves but alot of thrown away.
>>77775130
Yes I agree, the state was very pathetic and got their public transit plans wrecked by car manufacturers. Less people would need cars if there was viable transit.
I am NOT for pure capitalism, regulation is needed. The problem is preventing corruption to ensure effective regulation and not crony capitalism laws.
Socialism has the issue of corruption AND more inefficient resource allocation
I see a lot of options. Apparently this is a bad thing.
>>77775541
Huh. Our shrink is 99% Spoiled, expired, or over damaged items, not good but wasted food. We run a pretty tight ship and have the best scores in our district however
>>77769708
If get socialism will die permanently in this decade
Fudge Popsicle.
>>77776187
nvm socialism will reign for a thousand years
>>77771688
At least Captalism works. Well for now anyway.
>>77774597
Barter is not Capitalism. Using money as a medium of exchange is the beginning of capitalism.
>>77776024
Sounds like you have good managers, unlike the yahoos I was working for throwing money away.
Come check em
>>77776340
Our Manager is fucking great, and the upper management in our store okay, but corporate is a bag of dicks who ruin everything with their "ideas" on how to fix problems they themselves cause, Goddamn
>>77769708
More like fucking choices you retarded shit
>>77776875
Instead of eating the prepared food on our breaks, we were encouraged to take things off the shelves and damage the packaging. Why?
>>77777513
What the actual fuck?
What store is this?
>>77775130
>Fuel efficiency and vehicle safety getting better by the year
Yet your flagship argument is that people don't use the full capabilities of what they own
>extra seating room
at all times.
Get a life and a job.
>>77777513
Sounds illegal. Like insurance fraud against shippers. Report him.
>>77778888
checked.
>>77778888
Checked
>>77778888
great
just think how much resources are constantly wasted for minimal changes and marketing?
>>77770870
>paying less and getting fresher non hot house vegetables is a bad thing.
>getting free even fresher food makes you a hipster
You should make some corn syrup laced hamburger helper or some shit tonight anon and suck a dick.
>>77769708
>all that food
>everything there will kill you
Bravo. With foods like these, who needs guns.
>That sagging shelf.
Kek. Even your products are obese.
>>77769708
well..yeah. Thats literally what capitalism defends.
>>77779476
If it didn't people would be bitching about monopolies.
> Shame about all the other shit that goes with it.
>>77780209
Marketing isn't just about competition, in fact I'd say it's a minor part in marketing. Some products would never be sought out if you didn't know they existed, even though you have 0 need for them. Just think about all the stupid products you saw as a kid (toys,etc)
>>77769708
>socialists will defend this
>>77775482
Who is to say such large business would exist without the state to encourage their growth without stifling their competition?
Look at the banking industry in the United States.
In 1984 the Continental Illinois bank made some really shitty investments in bad oil and gas loans, mostly because of a fraudulent executive. The bank would have been the largest failed bank in US history but "luckily" the FDIC stepped in to save the bank instead of just it's depositors. This created the term, "too big to fail".
What did this mean for other banks, well if you want to invest poorly in things that might or might not pan out or make really shitty investment choices, you don't have to worry about it, the government will show up with its pocket book of money it doesn't have to bail you out. So after 1984, the bigger the bank you are the better because you'll be too big to fail.
In 2008 the financial crisis was caused in part by this. When the Lehman bros were doomed to go under, everyone expected big government to bail them out, but they didn't and so all the rest of the huge banks froze capital (aka not lending or investing shit), which means that job creators and business was put on standstill.
The government also fucked us by artificially lowering home mortgage rates with freddy mac and fannie mae (because owning a home is a "right and part of the american dream", by buying up mortgage debt from banks and reselling it as mortgage backed securities which ultimately became worthless when the housing bubble finally popped causing many people to lose their homes and become financially ruined.
So yes anon, keep believing the government is out for your and your interests.
>>77770779
>nature after communism
Yes, I absolutely would OP.
You do realize that the products and amounts of said products are not stocked at random, right? They couldn't keep stores like this stocked without properly predicting the demand for a particular product, otherwise the store would fail.
>>77780818
lol chernobyl and the aral sea are complete fuck ups
>Furries will defend this
>>77771688
Get over here, technocrat bro.
>>77769944
that aint venny
that's new Orleans or somewhere a big hurricane hit, right before the storm
>>77779763
I can't believe you replied to such low quality bait, anon.
![Venezuela-Market[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JTu1WCE.jpg "Venezuela-Market[1].jpg")
>>77769708
>>77780663
>socialists will defend this
>>77769708
Bread lines wait on you.
>>77771688
Super computers aren't magical entities that will mystically super-optimize everything for all real parameters. They still require human inputs and calculations and as such their calculations are still prone to huge levels of error and probably always will be.
All systems have waste, Communism actually has much more, they just hide it away in warehouses and ghost cities.
>>77771058
This is not Venezuela
>>77772666
checcced
Wow look at all that food for people.
I dont know what you are getting at.
>>77769708
really makes you think
Only a sodcialist could look at a vast amount of varied food and think it's bad
>>77772274
>modern day China
>communist
really nigger?
>>77774964
In Soviet Russia you would need 0 full time employees because there is no supermarket because there are no products.
>>77769708
Dumbfuck OP doesn't realise that capitalism uses the best method against wastefulness - it's called the Price Mechanism.
Free markets by their very nature , are inherently anti-wasteful.
>>77769708
>the illusion of choice and the reality of profit
>>77786642
>mfw I buy chink shit sunglasses for a tiny fraction of what any luxottica brand charges
free trade saves the day again
>>77786853
The monopolies will kill these little companies as soon as they get big enough
>>77769708
DELETE THIS
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>>77788244
You were cucked by American capitalist pigs.
>>77770278
It was boris yeltsin, he gave up communism later that year
