I'm a libertarian. Convert me.
Convert you in to what exactly? Liking traps?
>>77637120
hitler did nothing wrong
>>77637680
How so?
>>77637120
Free market favors non-americans on a global scale, which is how most libertarian political organizations interpret it.
Allow hard working Americans to break their backs for the price of a gameboy game a week if they so chose, but don't let the chinks compete for the price of an icecream cone instead.
Libertarianism = Globalism
>>77638110
can national libertarianism ever function? Freedom, but for your own countrymen only.
>>77638457
You know, that's what I have been leaning towards.
Serious question: What do I call myself if I have libertarian and conservative values? Except open borders, fuck that.
>>77638637
"Conservatarian", which sounds gay as fuck. But that's basically where I feel like I'm leaning.
>>77638637
A conservative.
>>77637120
one word:
Roads
>>77638748
Well I mean I have the views where I'd protect and fight for my fellow Americans, but not for government. I like guns and freedom.
>>77639040
Tea Party
>>77638637
people will naturally assimilate amongst members of their own culture.
The concept of borders does more to trap people in than it does to keep people out.
If you have conservative values, you can voluntarily associate with like minded people in a libertarian society, just don't impose your worldview forcibly onto others.
>>77639201
How do you keep out muslims then?
>>77638457
>>77638637
>>77638748
>>77639040
Sounds like Nationalist Liberalism (Jeffersonian, not the modern bastardization of the term)
>>77639201
I don't impose my worldviews on anybody, I just like to discuss them with like minded people, and even debate the occasional liberal every now and then.
>>77639407
Muslims wouldn't ever go to a libertarian country. A libertarian government wouldn't give them any gibmedats or care about their feelings.
>>77639508
Of course they would. They'd kill or convert the non-muslims. You think they'll stay out of of respect?
>>77639013
>implying a free society needs roads
>>77637120
Who repairs potholes?
>>77637271
I don't care if this makes me gay but I'm on day 23 of nofap and I want to fuck the everliving shit out of this qt and cum a giant load in her ass while sucking her tiny femcock dry
>>77639013
Private roads would work. Google and apple and many other companies would pay to build roads to have them named after themselves.
Imagine instead of saying you need to take the 5 to the 15 to the 405. You'd say you need to take the Google road to the Apple road to the Walmart road.
>>77637120
show him that presidential debate of the libertarian party, it'll convert anyone who still has half a brain cell left
>>77639638
your picture has roads tho burger freind
>>77639872
> source
> argument
libertarians dont give a fuck who their politicians are because they have no power ideally anyways
>>77637120
does libertarian imply zero taxes?
>>77639599
They would only be able to convert or kill the weak minded sects of people who still adhere to communism or other statist fairy tales.
If muzzies tried that shit in libertopia their would be heavily armed private armies ready to stop them.
>>77639833
I hope you're kidding. Google would pay for a few multi-billion dollar highways to be built and maintained for decades for a small amount of advertising? States have no problem selling the naming rights of some projects to save money, but motorways are named with numbers for a reason.
>>77640117
>private armies
owned by who? Large companies?
>>77640106
yes taxation is theft/extortion
![no-step-on-snek[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dj1FQ5Z.jpg "no-step-on-snek[1].jpg")
>>77637120
>Convert me.
Government regulates commerce so you don't get ripped off by unscrupulous people and corporations. If you do get ripped off, government gives you legal and civil remedies.
>>77640356
No government regulations restricting a person's right to bear arms.
implying people wouldn't voluntarily assemble to protect themselves and their property.
>>77640740
At least the original European idea of a nation state is all about security
>>77640748
so an army of individuals owning guns.
>>77640980
Militias.
>>77640117
>private armies
And into the trash it goes.
>>77637120
Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
>>77637120
Libertarian principles only work in a setting where consumers and employees have absolute knowledge of the market and can access competitive businesses without geographical constraints, otherwise businesses have way more leverage.
how do you stop one community from curb stomping everyone and creating a force powerful enough to put an end to your to silly charade
>>77641167
>penn jillette moderated a LP debate
Ironic meme fellow
>>77640980
that's how I envision it.
If it's worth doing it will get done. Government just interferes and hinders progress.
>>77637120
Libertarianism ultimately leads back to what we have now.
>>77640740
How do they regulate commerce?
by colluding with the largest companies to make future competition impossible
of myth and meat -
https://fee.org/articles/of-meat-and-myth/
>>77640980
whats wrong with that? who is being forced in this situation?
>>77638110
The Chinese are able to deliver better products at lower prices. The American worker benefits from it. Economists, left and right, are united on the issue of free trade.
>>77639872
Yeah, like Donald Trump's rambling "speeches" are accurate or intellectually stimulating to any degree.
>>77640376
>>77640106
Complete bullshit. I'm amazed at how people are able to remain willfully ignorant, when a quick Google search would dispel half these lies.
>>77640740
Excuse me? Are you implying that Libertarians don't support liability or anti-fraud laws?
>>77641518
the libertarians. By any other country with a competent military. What's to stop suicide bombers fucking your shit up every day of the week?
>>77641845
>>77641525
forgot image
>>77637120
Raping and screwing over people and tyrannizing them is fun.
Trust me.
>>77641525
>Are you implying that Libertarians don't support liability or anti-fraud laws?
in my experience they do.
>>77637120
Nope you are perfect the way you are.
>>77641167
Penn Jillette is an anarcho-capitalist ya dingus.
>>77638637
Paleo-libertarian
Or conservative if you like
Conservashits today are the less-government party
>>77640117
>Implying a private army could take on a national one
You know many battles have been fought by armies that were outnumbered more than four to one, and the won simply because they were more organized
>>77641764
That raises questions:
1. Who would attack a country that does no harm or has any intentions to do so in the first place, ie for what reason? They literally pose no threat to anyone
2
Who would invade said country, knowing that every able man would be heavily armed and probably well trained and willing to defend to his death, considering its his own piece of land?
>>77641764
Anarcho-capitalist global society is the target, most libertarians agree that progressive work towards liberty is required to achieve it and yes, we agree that limited state with lower taxation is better than big state with social benefits, and then minarchist state is better than limited state. This can't be done in one step though, cause people were taught that the state will take care of them.
You burgers were on a such good road before 1910. Your founding fathers understood liberty and really wanted to preserve it for all generations to come, yet you squandered it all. I expect to see the rise of United Socialist States of America in my lifetime.
>>77642756
>>Implying a private army could take on a national one
Thats pretty much guerilla warfare
As shown in recent wars, it works fairly well
>>77637120
Niggers vote.
>>77637120
Libertarianism sounds like a good idea until you realise that people coming from shit countries bring their shit culture with them.
I don't want a pile of Muslims congregating and planning whatever the fuck they want with whatever weapons they want.
Muslims, Africans, and other shit people groups ruin countries 10/10 times and WILL tread on you.
>>77637120
Tl;dr it is a noble ideal (probably the only truly noble political ideology, since it complies with mans nature) but very unlikely to be reached and then probably very hard to maintain
>>77642981
how do you create a state like that without a government forming someplace that fucks it up?
What's to stop a government forming in a city in libertarianland, and they coordinate to take over a nearby city. Then they tax loads of people and use the money to invest in effective military hardware and fuck up the next city who have nothing but random uncoordinated people with guns.
>>77637120
Low IQ will destroy the free society.
It already does.
![1026039[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/yWTKOtJ.png "1026039[1].png")
>>77641525
>Excuse me? Are you implying that Libertarians don't support liability or anti-fraud laws?
Yes I am. The Koch/CATO/AEI/Heritage cabal that rejects any corporate regulation whatsoever tightly controls the libertarian narrative.
We get corporations permanently out of politics, it will work much better for the people and then it can be "right-sized" to promote max economic growth.
>>77641415
>Government just interferes and hinders progress.
Government prevent upstream landowners from taking all the water and downstream landowners from being deprived of all water.
>>77643463
>What's to stop a government forming in a city in libertarianland, and they coordinate to take over a nearby city. Then they tax loads of people and use the money to invest in effective military hardware and fuck up the next city who have nothing but random uncoordinated people with guns
I took that course in college: Warlords 101
>>77644384
No
Government seizes control of all water then poisons it with fluoride.
>>77637120
Giving people individual rights guarantees that they may choose to oppose the values you support. Libertarian government is small and democratic, if the masses are manipulated by some kind of influential person then libertarianism is defeated.
Only Dogmatic Authoritarianism can stop other dogmatic authoritarians, give people liberty and emotionalism will control the masses.
>>77643463
Ask burgers how they avoided going from constitutional republic to absolute dictatorship for so long.
>>77644991
by taxing people to pay for a federal army.
>>77637120
>convert me
to what?
>>77639822
thats...definitely kinda gay. but the face and boobies look nice.
>>77642876
1. Muslims
2. Muslims
>>77637120
Humans are a fundamentally violent species. It is futile to fight against nature.
>>77644795
>Government seizes control of all water then poisons it with fluoride.
Of course it's a poison. It's technically called an "economic poison". It's like putting chlorine in your swimming pool. Fluoride kills bacteria. It makes your water safe to drink.
If you believe Alex Jones when he tells you it is some mind control chemical, then you're waaaaay too retarded to be spoiling the adults' intelligent discussion.
Fuck off back to FunnyJunk!
Brown people exist.
>>77637120
90% of Libertarians' "free market solutions" can be defeated with the phrase,
>Yeah, that could work. But would it?
