In light of recent events, it has become increasingly clear that the Left consistently sides with people, causes, and agendas that are harmful to the West and its interests. The environmentalists openly embrace ideas that are antithetical to industrial civilization. The multiculturalists have opened the floodgates in Europe to Muslim invaders who make their desire to destroy the West explicit and undeniable. And Social Justice Warriors seek to undermine productive individuals for the purpose of “equality.” What is the Left’s motivation? Many speculate that they are simply anti-Western, or at best anti-civilization, but this is only part of the truth.
There are two major classifications of Leftists: the power-seekers and the useful idiots. The latter are far more numerous than the former, and comprise the endless hordes of SJWs, Occupy hipsters, feminists, BLM supporters, and “Carlcucks” that currently do most of the vocalizing. The power-seekers are those who take control after the useful idiots serve their purpose of destabilizing a subverted society. These two classes have very different modes of thinking, and as such have different motivations.
The Useful Idiot:
The useful idiots are nihilists. That is, they are psychologically and philosophically incapable of building a coherent system of any kind. Quite the opposite: their very method of thinking—their epistemology—is geared specifically toward disintegrating systems and destroying unified concepts. They deal only in terms of negatives, and when confronted with explaining what kind of system they would build in positive terms, they can only stammer and stutter and regurgitate bromides they've heard since they were young children in Progressive kindergartens. Recall, for example, how the representatives of Occupy Wall Street could forward no coherent system of governance to replace what they would see destroyed.
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These individuals are trained in destruction—philosophic destruction, spiritual destruction, and cultural destruction. For example, feminists do not seek to uplift women—they seek to destroy men; the "Black Lives Matter" movement does not seek to uplift blacks—it seeks to destroy whites; Occupy hipsters do not seek to help the poor—they seek to destroy the wealthy; environmentalists do not seek a better world for improving human life—they seek the destruction of industrial civilization; multiculturalists are not interested in spreading civilization to uncivilized cultures—they seek to terrorize civilized people with the barbaric practices of primitive savages.
The useful idiots themselves are usually not even aware of their own nihilistic motivations, as they tend to be incapable of making meaningful mental integrations of any kind. In fact, the most surefire way to create a nihilist out of a healthy human is to cripple his ability to think properly. The rational capacity is the primary means by which humans survive and deal with world. When this mechanism is broken, humans are left with no reliable method of achieving their values and ambitions, and the resulting frustration quickly becomes a stark hatred for reality itself.
The modern process of crippling a human mind begins in kindergarten under the banner of Progressive education, and continues well through college. The essential function of the rational mind is conceptualization: that is, building a unified, systematic whole out of a series of disparate observations and characteristics. Rational conceptualization brings integration to chaos. And while it is impossible to completely obliterate this faculty from the human mind altogether—a human could not even survive without this faculty—the ability to reason can certainly be crippled. It is a learned skill, after all, and people can even be taught to perform the opposite function in its place.
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A primary tool of Progressive educators is an anti-conceptual approach to education. That is, curricula are designed to be senseless and haphazard, and these curricula either evade or outright attack any unified and principled approaches to learning. For example: Students learn a bizarre method of doing a math problem one week—without any demonstrated connection to reality or reason why the problem should be done in the first place—and then the class moves on to a totally unrelated topic in the following week. Students learn about history in terms of a sequence of disintegrated events and, if any unifying themes are discussed at all, they are extremely superficial and facts are repurposed to promote a Leftist agenda. Students learn about political systems in terms of a scattershot collection of haphazard implementations—social democracies, representative democracies, direct democracies, parliamentary republics, constitutional monarchies, ad nauseum—but the underlying political principles that motivate these different political implementations are never discussed. The very method of formulating and applying unified principles—an essential characteristic of human reason—is either absent or deliberately discouraged in the Progressive school system.
By the time this process is completed, a graduate of the Progressive school system is little more than a babbling, shrill, and vitriolic shadow of what should have been a healthy human being. They instinctively lash out at all examples of virtue, and automatically attack any semblance of a coherent system of thought. Such a broken individual is ready to be unleashed upon civilization to join the marching hordes of their unthinking brethren.
(Note that this process has been gradually perfected in the West over the past 150 years, and the current fruits of their labor are far more horrifying and disfigured than anything ever seen in human history.)
Who are you quoting.
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The Power Seeker:
Power-seekers are those that wish to subjugate men to the will of another. All such individuals are mystical idealogues. That is, they believe—very firmly and seriously—in a set of principles that were not rationally formulated. For example: A core tenet of Marxism is that wealth is a fixed and static quantity—resulting in the belief that wealthy people must have necessarily obtained their wealth by robbing others. But the reality is that value is produced by thinking men, and in a free society, wealth comes from providing things that others find valuable enough to purchase of their own free will. Marxists cling to their erroneous notions of economics despite the evidence that their beliefs are false.
Another example: Collectivists believe that the state, society, or the tribe should be given the power over the individual, but embracing a principle that destroys the fundamental unit of a society—the individual—will ultimately lead to the destruction of that society. Even though such societies have repeatedly failed to produce modern living standards, and ultimately stagnate and collapse, collectivists persist in their mystical belief that some supernatural entity known as "society" can benefit from an endless stream of human sacrifices.
Another: Theocrats believe in an imaginary, omnipotent being who rules on earth through one or more divinely-appointed intermediaries. Even though there is no evidence of any such being, or that such a being is in any way communicating with its self-appointed rulers on earth, theocrats still remain steadfast in their invincible ignorance and blind superstition.
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Unlike useful idiots, the power-seekers actually do build systems, but they are irrational systems based on raw emotion, blind faith, and "gut feel." Rather than formulating their ideas from a series of observations made in reality, they instead formulate concepts based on whim—in *defiance* of reality. The bromide of all such men throughout history has been: "It is true because I say so—and the evidence be damned." When men ignore reality in favor of whims, there is no objective standard to resolve disagreements; there is merely a collision of wills—with brute force as the only method of resolution. Without fail, when this mentality is prevalent in a culture, dictatorship always manifests.
The Dynamic Between Nihilists and Power-seekers:
When a pre-existing system stands in the way of aspiring power-seekers, that system must first be disintegrated before they can gain control of it. Nihilists are specialized disintegrators, and the savviest power-seekers use them purposefully to sow chaos and bring a target system to the brink of crisis. The people, desperate for a solution and disillusioned with the horror and degeneracy wrought by the nihilists, turn to the power-seekers for salvation. They take control easily, and to “normalize” the society under their rule, they systematically eliminate the useful idiots in a single, sweeping gesture of brutality. The Khmer Rouge, the Maoists, and the Soviets all used this method with astonishing speed and effectiveness.
I'm a right wing environmentalist desu. I don't want beauty of God's nature to be destroyed by fucks that want more degenerate malls
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Not all power-seekers make deliberate use of nihilists, however. For example, the Weimar Republic was ruled by nihilist academics and political leaders, whose reckless policies ensured the nation’s collapse. In parallel, Marxist groups were attempting to gain popularity and rally citizens under their banner, and their intention was to seize control after the inevitable downfall of the system. But things did not go according to plan, and an altogether different group of competing power-seekers gained control of the nation instead. And in very short order, the entire nihilist enterprise was wiped out—virtually overnight. Even though the intended victors were driven out of the nation, the practical result was the same, because all power-seekers operate according to the same basic set of principles.
The State of the West and its Future:
The situation in the West is ominously parallel to that of the Weimar Republic. Europe and the Five Eye nations are poised on the knife’s edge of devastating economic collapse; nihilist degeneracy runs rampant with political leaders pushing fringe agendas for gays and transexuals; multiculturalism threatens to overrun Europe with Jihadist invaders, and it is questionable as to whether Europe will survive the onslaught; racial tensions are at a fever pitch in the U.S. The West is less than a decade away from systemic failure, and if things continue on the present course, the question is not whether a dictatorship will rise in the vacuum—it is which group of power-seekers will gain control.
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It is difficult to prognosticate with any certainty, but one important fact should be kept in mind: the people pulling these strings have learned a lot from past experience, and rather than let a competing group seize their prize, they will have made sure to control as many major contenders as possible. To them, it makes no difference what specific form a dictatorship takes, or what it calls itself—they are only interested in power. This should make discerning individuals very wary of any group rising in popularity that professes dictatorial principles. And if you are curious as to what movements such groups consider legitimately threatening, pay attention to the non-nihilistic movements that they smear.
We also know from history that when tyrants take control of civilization in a meaningful way, that civilization plunges into stagnation and darkness. It happened after the collapse of the Roman Empire, and it will happen again—albeit on a much grander and far more brutal scale than the world has ever seen. The very survival of Western civilization is at stake, but whether we continue down the current path is entirely up to us.
bumping while reading. we don't get effortposts often here anymore.
>>77633695
What about beautiful and tireless SEX ROBOTS?
Won't that drive feminists crazy? How will they try to shut it down?
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bruh bumped for sheer effort
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shilled so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn't even matter
i'm a leftist because i think it's my moral obligation to put the safety and comfort of my fellow humans over the feefees of people who think modern society is dependent on arbitrary stratification
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You know thiests have been shown to have lower IQ than athiests?
Your political ideology, however, has shown basically zero correlation.
Western Civilization is built on the basis of the triumph of the individual over the group and at the moment we have a whole movement of people dedicated to destroying individual liberties and attempting to institute group rights. Group rights are the definition of tyranny and indeed it is the useful idiots who are their voice.
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I actually read all of that. There is a lot of /pol/ in there and it reminds me of Yuri Bezmenov. But it sounds like OP is grouping nationalists in with the lefties. What other alternative is there?
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The left is a death cult. Abortion and faggotry. Two things that lead to extinction, and the only two things the American left fights for.
>Understanding the Modern Left
>ctrl+f Herbert Marcuse
>no response
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wat
Also this is probably worth posting
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sauce
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I don't think the OP was grouping lefties and nationalists as two sides of the same coin, but as two groups who use similar tactics to different political ends (both look to seize control).
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No clue. I found it in a thread here.
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The Jewish Question is an important one, and it actually further reinforces the classifications I outlined in the original post. Jewish academics, business leaders, and NGOs have been instrumental in propagating nihilism in the West. And the overwhelming majority of them are the same kind of True Believer, useful idiots that pave the way for the downfall of civilization. And it is very likely that behind these nihilists are power-seeking Jews who fully intend to obtain even more power over the West. One could make the argument, for example, that the Red Shield accomplished a great deal to this end with World War II.
But the Jews are not the originators of these philosophic principles, nor are they the only ones to have practiced them. Focusing primarily on Jews is a distraction from the essence of the issue, which is the philosophic principles that motivate these groups. Making the assumption that Jews are the only--or even the primary--villains in this scenario leaves you vulnerable to those competing power-seekers who would use this distraction to gain the same kind of power over you.
The roots of these basic ideas go back as far as the pre-Socratic Greeks. Heraclitus, for example, was one of the earliest examples of nihilistic thought in the West. This tradition was carried on by the Sophists, and in modern times, the most systematic example of nihilistic philosophy resides in the works of Immanuel Kant. His philosophy paved the way for the modern Left.
The champion philosopher of the power-seekers is Plato. No one since has approached his genius in laying the systematic groundwork for dictatorship. Every modern example of a Western tyranny follows his writings.
Educate yourself in Western philosophy and always keep the principles in mind. You will be much more capable of analyzing, attacking, and rectifying these problems in a rational way--and much less prone to being deceived.
9/10 actually read it to the end
so you be sayin power seekers thrownrocks through windows, only to come by the next day with a work truck advertising " Bob's window repair"?
>to put it in simple nigger terms
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I think he's saying that anyone that pushes dictatorship is basically the same regardless of the political group they belong to.
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....while using others to throw their rocks and killing them on spot when they sell you their repairs
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>Recall, for example, how the representatives of Occupy Wall Street could forward no coherent system of governance to replace what they would see destroyed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street#Goals
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that doesn't really sound very coherent.
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christ, youre right
>socrates, philosopher without a cause, basically a sophist in his own right
>Plato writes his republic on how he would control society
1-2 generations later, Alexander (basically a dictator like his father phillip) rises to power.
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Their goals are, but their plans or how they would like it done isn't mentioned in the article. Perhaps somebody out there has an answer idk.
Good post OP, sums up Bolshevikism.
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It's important to translate those "goals" into practical action, which would manifest in the same manner as every other nihilist-SJW policy we have ever seen come into fruition. They are not constructing a principled, systematic form of governance; they are regurgitating piecemeal bromides they've heard since the early days of their Progressive education.
And that is as far as they are willing or even capable of carrying the discussion; their primary motivation is not building a better system, but tearing down the status quo.
OP if you remake thread.
Please make this the theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOr_1xSvglI
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>geopolitics can be simply boiled down to "the West" and then everything else
>pathological fear of feminism as a core tenet in your belief structure
>made up understanding of Marxism
>all schooling is exactly the same as orchestrated by spooky scary leftists, and not a wildly varying, regionalized and often totally disorganized attempt to allocate tiny budgets to teach kids who don't want to learn
>sexual and gender deviance constitute "degeneracy" which somehow threatens "the west"
thanks for the laugh
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Glorify the barbarians.
Guys I found the limp dick leftist, JDIF shill.
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good post, I almost didn't see it. Can someone cap it before it slides off? I'm on mobile
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I feel like its pasta from somewhere might try google searching it
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Doesn't look like it. Bumping
hi tonuser
You underestimate a human beings ability to see through bullshit.
All systems of control are predicated on satiating base human desires. Nobody believes in what they say, and the more vitriolic and adamant they are in expressing their beliefs the more worried and scared they are that it's a house of cards.
Example: SJW marxist wants social revolution. Yet dependent on a pharmacopoeia or drugs and pills to get up out of bed in the morning. Relies on a system of welfare and assistance programs to buy food, hormones, therapies. Is addicted to several substances, caffeine, alcohol, opiates. Is self-professed to have mental health problems, needs systemic assistance and structure in place to exist in this world, where getting a job is completely impossible for them.
So what does the SJW marxist _actually_ want? Big government, big system, big business. It is desperately afraid of limited government, personal liability.
Im 29 so a bit older than most of you, growing up in the 90s and early 00s we always heard this concept of 'time to grow up'. It's where you put your philosophical ideas in the garbage: atheism, nihilism, secularism, objectivism, marxism, capitalism; and you start contributing to the real world, find a good partner, start a family, work steady jobs, develop a career. As the west falls economically, there are fewer and fewer jobs for the college educated who lack the skills to fix an transmission, do body work on a car, retile a roof, fix a hot water pump, these people are pulled back into university and academia (or politics) and are incredibly jilted and upset that their philosophical ideas had no real world application sow the seeds of despair into the next generation of idiots who study useless things.
The world needs about 80% workers 10% controllers and 10% thinkers, the split in the west is 33% 33% 33%, and all wealth funneling up to the remaining 1% who maintains conflict between the three artificial groups.
Bump.
Quit posting/lurking in bait threads, and instead bump this masterpiece.
Cool read, fingol colony
Can some one make a screencap for me? I am on my phone now.
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>having face and neck tattoos
>not being scary
tough break for that meatbag.
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>Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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>9 posts
madman
>pic related
This book contains some good thoughs on a lot of stuff that you said.
Also this article
http://www.eutimes.net/2009/10/former-soviet-dissident-warns-for-eu-dictatorship/
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My favourite quote, but the 2nd half is just as good.
>“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
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Yeah it was good, I saved it.
It sounds like stuff I have written my friends in emails.
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>The useful idiots are nihilists. That is, they are psychologically and philosophically incapable of building a coherent system of any kind.
Perfect start to a completely correct and reasonable thread
The left in the guise of the USSR set in place a long term plan to demoralize and delegitimize the west.
Critical theory and the various grievance studies (womens/negro etc) were a core part of this.
This has been aided by the incredible egos of the "educated" classes, mostly in the guise of university administrators. They believe in their heart of hearts they should be receiving the riches and power they see "lesser" people getting.
Theres a reason so many of the great genociders were ex teachers/uni people.
The plan to cripple the west has worked perfectly, what the USSR couldn't see was their own system was inherently rotten and would collapse before the west.
May I point out that there is a very real strand of neo-paganist freemasons who believe that man was enslaved in the Garden of Eden until Satan set them free, which is why they worship Lucifer.
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This.
"climate change" bullshit is poisoning the well of what used to be a conservative, traditional cause. Blood and soil
