>WE MUST RESPECT OUR 229 YEAR OLD CONSTITUTION!!!
>Crusades? That shit was hundreds of years ago, bro.
mfw muricans
really makes you think, huh?
>mfw proxyshill
>>77596203
this is not an argument
>LE 229 YEARS OLD PAPER XDD, CHANGE IT TO GET WITH TIMES XDDD
the constitution is not a living breathing thing
>>77596418
/thread
>>77596418
But you are you dumb fucking sheep.
The 2nd amendment was written so people could fight against britain.
Literally nobody needs an assault rifle at home. Heck, i don't even know a songle person who owns a gun and complains about it like a little bitch.
>>77596203
>implying the crusades were bad
>>77596604
>needs
there's that word again
who decides what people need?
>>77596203
Let's see if I can attract all the bots the shills have set on /pol/
Key-phrases seem to attract them. Let's collect!
1. Trump will win in a landslide. Trump will be one of the greatest presidents ever.
2. Brexit will happen. It will be glorious. Leave will win and Nigel Farage is based.
3. Niggers are the ugliest and most destructive race on this planet. And by niggers, I mean all black people.
4. Hillary is a corporate Shill.
5. Gun control won't work and it's an attempt to disarm Americans so that they cannot resist tyranny.
6. The Holocaust didn't happen.
7. Islam is the most horrific religion ever to exist. Bring back the Crusades. Nuke the Middle East.
8. Socialism never works.
9. 9/11 was an inside job.
10. The Rothchilds and other kikes control world currency.
Let's see how many responses I get!
>>77596203
... Yes, we do have to obey the law? We could change it any time we want, you know
>>77596614
>implying the 4th Crusade wasn't the worst thing that happened in history
>>77596203
>>Crusades? That shit was hundreds of years ago, bro.
The crusades? a defensive battle? yeah it was, what's your point?
>>77596604
No we need them to fight against our new, oppressive government that's Britain 2.0, you fucking scheissekopf.
Crusaded were defensive battles to halt further muslim attacks.
>>77596763
h-how?
>>77596604
The second amendment was written so that if the government ever became tyrannical the people could rise against it
>>77596764
>if we want
Sure bro, just like every stoner or heroin addict tells you the exact same thing. "I could just stop if i wanted to bro."
Obviously you all enjoy having a mass shooting one a day.
>>77596604
>written so people could fight against britian
Source? You'd think that they would have said something about that, or implemented it in a more temporary way, rather than as an amendment in the Bill of Rights.
>>77596604
>calling someone a sheep
wew
>>77597039
kind of embarassing i know more about american history than you do
>>77596604
>implying we don't still need to fight britain
>>77596723
How many people in your close social circle do you know that have ever needed one for self defense? Literally noone.
BUT WHAT IF BUT WHAT IF BUT WHAT IF BUT WHAT IF BUT WHAT IF
Why are you replying? This is the same thread with the same image as yesterday.
>>77596418
Jefferson said something about the younger generations shouldn't be tied down to the laws of the previous generation. With that said, it SHOULD be very difficult to change the constitution for good reason.
>>77596604
No one can own guns in your country to begin with you dumb turk
>>77597104
You're the fuckwhits that tell islam to reform itself but at the same time youre too fucking incompetent to make the most logical change in your own constitution. Retards.
>>77597190
Without guns, Trayvon Martin would still be alive.
If that isn't reason enough to stop this gun control argument, idk what is.
>>77597318
>/pol/ is one person
Come on, yo.
>>77597318
If only there was a law against murder... that would have averted the disaster for sure...
HOLY FUCK WHAT IS WITH ALL OF THESE SLIDE THREADS TODAY, I CAN'T EVEN DISCUSS SHIT WHEN ALMOST HALF THE CATALOG IS OFF TOPIC, /int/ THREADS OR SHILL GARBAGE
HOWTHE FUCK IS ANYONE OKAY WITH THIS?
>>77596203
tell that to 3000 year old islam
>>77596604
When the Second Amendment was written, the war with Britain was over.
It was placed there to enable the people to oppose future tyrants, both foreign and domestic.
Now just go back to doing whatever it is you do, you damned cuck.
>>77597580
Islam is ~800 yrs younger than christianity you dumbshit
The only good thing about the constitution is the explicit protection of freedom of speech, desu. That's what I envy the 'murricans for. Intensely.
>>77597190
The more muslims you let in the more quickly you will realize how important it is when your neighbours suddenly become the third world.
People don't magically civilize when they cross the imaginary border, brother... Stop destroying yourself, you are better than this.
>>77597045
>Because i obviously enjoy a rape every day in the fatherland and call it a sexual emergency
the crusades were just
>>77597810
There's nothing i can disagree with here, sushi.
>>77596604
The constitution was written to prevent what had become systemic overreaches of executive power, such as ones then historically common to Great Britain.
Jefferson owned a Girandoni air rifle which has a comparable rate of fire and penetrating power to a modern semi-automatic, and no one cared.
Germans are truly the stupidest people in European history. That must be why they're incapable of actually generating their own culture, and have to steal other people's ideas. After all, if German culture was so strong, why did German immigrants assimilate to the point of cultural extinction in under a century?
>>77596203
>implying I'm apologetic about the Crusades
>implying the Crusades have anything to do with the US
>Euros don't want Americans to be able to associate with our ancestral roots, unless it's to share blame
How much blood must be shed before I will support repealing the 2nd? Every fucking drop.
>>77597993
>why did German immigrants assimilate
Because we're not Turks.
>>77597872
id rather get raped by a kebab and live the rest of my life walking around leaking sand from my asshole than getting killionaire'd by some bullied white kid
>>77596203
Constitution > Quran
>mfw german cucks are actually brainwashed into thinking the crusades were something to feel guilty about and not a defensive war against muslim invaders
wow you all are more cucked than i expected. dont project the brainwash they put on you onto us my kraut friend.
>>77598225
Common sense > dog shit > muh 2nd amamandemnt > quran
>>77596203
Why are you against freedom of speech?
>>77598220
>freedom means literally nothing to me
See, this is why we're in this pickle.
>>77598352
Stupidity =\= freedom of speech
>>77596203
>mfw a European talks to me about the United States Constitution
>>77598330
1st Amendment > Anything you think of
>>77598435
Depp
>>77598330
Common sense=/=importing by the millions of third world immigrants that have an almost polar opposite culture with zero assimilation and be shocked when its not working
>>77598352
It's rare to come across a German who fully supports unconditional freedom of speech. Most of us are of the "Sure, freedom of speech is kinda important, but..." variety.
>>77598220
>id rather be raped....
Jesus what happened to you germany. You sound like a domestic violence victim
>>77596203
>go to Germany
>mention nazis
>question holahoax
>go to prison
>>77598541
Yeah, I'm the fucking Depp here, right?
>id rather get raped by a kebab and live the rest of my life walking around leaking sand from my asshole
>>77596604
>The 2nd amendment was written so people could fight against britain.
Nope. It was written so people could defend themselves against any government that would oppress them, INCLUDING THEIR OWN IF NECESSARY.
>>77596604
Better to have a gun and not need it. Than need one and not have it Abu
>>77598658
When will you dumbshits realize that gun controll doesn't mean ban guns.
It means that you have to get a license to own, buy and operate one. We need licenses for cars, so why not for killing machines? You're literally the mudslimes of the western world
>>77596203
CONTINUATION
>>77598865
Does you definition of "need" include when you feel the need to shoot up 50 fags or a school?
Id rather have 10 people dead every year from break ins than literally 1000s from batshits shooting up the public
>>77598872
>You're literally the mudslimes of the western world
What the fuck does that even mean? They're more free than we've ever been in the entire history of our nation. How does that even come close to being comparable to oppressive, totalitarian mudslime culture? Your irrational fear of guns has eaten your reason.
>>77596604
>i don't even know a songle person who owns a gun
I'm certain you wouldn't.
>>77597190
I know someone whose younger daughter still wets her bed thanks to a home invasion (she's 14 ffs). A gun would have stopped that invasion in less than a minute.
>>77597318
>not an argument
>personal attack
>insults
>>77598220
>id rather get raped by a kebab and live the rest of my life walking around leaking sand from my asshole
Of course you would.
>>77598330
>Common sense
Something you have shown none of ITT.
>>77598444
>Stupidity =\= freedom of speech
>Stasi veteran to manage censorship on Facebook
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1926/stasi-veteran-to-manage-censorship-on-facebook.html
>>77596203
>crusades
Are you a turkroach, living in germoney, that is still upset over the crusades?
>>77598584
Truly beyond saving
>>77598444
Who defines "stupidity" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hdCmT2z4-8
>GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, THEYD JUST USE SOMTHING ELSE
Yeah, youre tellig me that if cars were banned in your country, and you wanted to get to the next city 100km away, you'd just take your skateboard... Dumb as a fucking brickk
It is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
That said, the right to bear arms is a right that American citizens have decided to keep. And as such, it will stay. So fuck you. Guns are cool.
And the size of America is fucking huge so of course we have more autistic retards per capita. Can't be helped. This is why we need to add euthanasia as an amendment
>>77596203
But we are pro-crusade you retard, that's why our armies are in the middle east.
>>77597286
>t. Mr. "I get my facts on facebook"
>>77596203
Crusades were a direct response to the Ottoman Empire Muzzies tryibg to unite the world under a global caliphate via jihad or conversion.
Talking about the Crusades, it was a reaction, it was Mudslimes fault
>>77598872
>When will you dumbshits realize that gun controll doesn't mean ban guns.
>It means that you have to get a license to own, buy and operate one.
...and then they ban them and fuck you over like you did to the jews.
Nein danke.
>>77599072
The numbers are actually the opposite way around, and youre stupid for not realising.
The US has .72 mass shooting fatalities per 1,000,000 people.
>>77599381
Fertilizer trucks, mustard gas, arson, pipe bombs, car bombs, pressure cooker bombs, etc.
>>77599553
Bro if you're gunna try to report the truth, have the facts. It was in response to the Seljuk turks blocking christian pilgrims from going to the Holy land.
>>77597109
Kinda embarrassing how that you're shilling so hard
>>77599633
Cool bro, find me some people in germany or europe who used those recently. How come yoi people shoot each other up every single day and people over her uproar when theres a fistfight at a train staiton?
>>77596203
200 years isn't that long.
Shit, even philosophy from thousands of years ago holds up today.
>>77600029
out of all the things that could support your delusions you chose philosophy
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHA
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-guns-idUSKCN0Z21HX
LETS GO MURPHY !
>>77596203
>the crusades were created by americans
>the crusades serve as the central governing document of the United States today
sage
>>77599874
>Cool bro, find me some people in germany or europe who used those recently.
It's not really that hard to find arsonists and bombers in Europe.
>>77597109
Embarrassing when you say that, and don't.
"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." - Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788
“To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” - George Mason 1788
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
>>77600125
out of all the things that could support your delusions you chose popularity
>>77599799
It started in response to the Turk's migrating westward and the Byzantine Empire needed help to fight them off. The reason they were expanding their influence is to 1. Claim the holy land 2. Single unified world religion.
Guess when you are being taught by Muhammad you dont learn much eh Britcuck?
>tf2
If you want anyone to take your opinion seriously.
Don't use TF2
Or Video Games outside of their boards.
Know what would've sufficed? A picture of the founding fathers or the crusades. A templar knight.
Not a fucking unfunny meme video game that only got popular because of autists on /v/
>>77598330
Common sense > muh 2nd amamandemnt > quran > German ""progressive"" politics
>>77599874
The Paris attacks and the attacks in Belgium, for starters....
Oh, and also the Rote Armee Faktion and other similar communist terrorists from the 1960's through to the 1990's.
>>77599874
I am willing to trade a handful of lives that hardly dent the population for the universal right to own a firearm
>>77596203
How about you worry about your own country, dhimmi?
>>77596203
>WE MUST RESPECT OUR 229 YEAR OLD CONSTITUTION!!!
It's not respected because it's old - it's respected cos it's the fucking law. Also cos it's done a pretty decent job as one of the foundations of the greatest nation in human history.
>Crusades? That shit was hundreds of years ago, bro.
Uhuh - so not exactly some that's in any way relevant when Islamophile apologists for MODERN Muslim violence inevitably bring it up.
1/10 effort - poorly thought out shitpost.
>>77596604
it was written for the people to fight tyrannical governments, especially if that government was the US
>>77599072
>Does you definition of "need" include when you feel the need to shoot up 50 fags or a school?
Sounds like those fags should have had guns.
>>77600310
>resorts to using britcuck
Lmao okay mr 63% white
I'm actually on your side you dumb fucking negro, but if you realised I was only correcting a fellow /pol/tard so when you eventually go rambling on some youtube comment page or another forum, you don't make a complete retard of yourself. Don't regard everything in absolutes, that's what teenagers and libcucks do.
>>77598872
>immigration does not mean a full scale invasion of Europe. You need absolute power and money to have a right to criticize the EU. We need tighter control of hate speech, so why not arrest and imprison those that are against it.
>>77601154
That would have been fine had you been remotely right. You were not though.
>>77600125
>moving goalpost so fast they come full circle
>>77596203
I'm sorry, how many millions of Muslims was your country importing? I hope you gave up your home to house those poor refugees. If not then you're a racist!
>>77596604
No law against being a cuck I guess...
>>77601454
it is a refugee
>>77601160
>implying that me owning a gun changes anything about immigration policies.
Stsly wtf m8, youre comparing sticks with windows.
>you must respect the ideas I pulled out my ass a few years ago to undermine you
>mfw leftists
The left is built on a 250 year old belief in equality. That belief is just as fanciful as now as it was then. Like good leftist tradition the Whigs, Jacobins, hippies and now SJWs are of the same ilk.
>>77596821
>implying it wasn't Hersey that did it
I forget which crusade america fought in
>>77596723
Nobody needs a trolling little cuck bitch either, but behold...OP.
What are the numbers regarding mass shootings when you take away the gang violence and the ones where someone snaps murders his family and then himself? Like the random public shootings that occur. Is there a website with these compiled, who the perpetrator was, their alleged motives, their race and what type of weapon was used?
>America
>Relevant to crusades
What the fuck? When did Germans become completely nonsensical to the point of -
oh, hi Ahmed!
>>77596203
>ugh, you expect me to DRIVE 100 KM?!
As I said last night. The crusades were a series of religious military campaigns held long before the US existed.
The constitution is a legal document enumerating the structure, power, snd limitations of a still existing government. I don't understand how you can compare these two things. You are very stupid.
>>77596604
>Fight Britain
>Document that was written for a goverment to rule after the British were removed
>Assualt rifle
Political buzzword
>Need
You don't need to be a whiny little bitch over the internet, yet here you are
B8
We are born with unalienable. Rights you krout pice of shit. Maby if you would have won a world war or didint put a humorless hag in office you would be halve the country we are krout.
>>77601804
When I was a kid I thought there were castles in America
>>77596203
Hey Hans.
Guess what?
We're still on our first constitutional charter, unlike you.
And unlike you, we have the sense to preserve it rather than throwing it under the bus to suit the needs of the zeitgeist and submit to authority like a servile animal which Germans are quite prone to doing.
>>77597045
That is without a doubt the worst comparison I've ever seen.
We literally can change the law at any time. We clearly don't want to. Blow me, globalist.
>>77597190
2
Father and Sister.
What the fuck do the crusades have to do with guns or the united states?
Not that there was anything wrong with at least the first crusade
>>77597318
Islam calls for the death of nonbelievers
The second amendment calls for the freedom of the American people
Also islam doesn't need reformation
It needs destruction, all men who follow that backwards murder cult should be thrown into a pit and lit on fire and all their woman should raped
>>77596723
>>77596934
>>77597039
>>77597070
>>77597104
>>77597168
>>77597286
>>77597735
>>77597993
>>77598857
>>77598865
>>77599226
>>77600976
>>77601511
>>77601876
Hahahahahahahaha fucking baited by GERMANY of countries. Amraninskis confirmed for the most buttblasted nation on 4chan
>Hey dudes maybe just check that criminals aren't legally buying your guns
FUK OFF KEKS USA USA, BURGER, BURGER. Literally embarrassing.
>>77601595
>owning a weapon does not change anything
Just reread what you just posted
>>77601595
And you're continuously getting BTFO, and not responding to replies.
>>77602133
>we
What have you ever done other than crawling out of your moms woumb/womb/wumb however the fuck its written on an imaginary piece of land
>>77602286
>1 post by this user
>>77602232
a machine gun?
>>77596604
You can't even own an assault rifle you fucking kraut cuck.
Fuck off.
>>77602363
I just bought a gun from 7/11, this makes merkel rethink her immigration policy.
Literally what you think, how can someone be this fucking retarded
>>77602286
>Being this much of a cuck.
>Being from Melbourne.
>Being a summerfag.
>Being this triggered that the majority disagrees with you.
>>77602571
Sure i can. I have to join a club, get a license, apply for ownership, get a yearly check if im storing the rifles right, need to get shooting practice and proof it every year. Just like it should be.
>>77602582
>i lie on the Internet to prove a point
Also
>jerry gunshops at 7/11
>>77596604
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
>>77602675
Have you noticed the irony of your post?
>>77602712
Nice non-comeback
>>77596723 why do you want our country to be as shity as yours?
>>77602582
There are no 7/11 in Germany, you fucking proxyfag.
>>77602959
Nice non arguement
>>77602534
No, but for one of the times(3 total for my Pops) it would have been very helpful.
Used to live in nignog central and four of them broke into our house at night and Dad was only able to kill one and maim two.
There are people on this board replying to this?
Kill yourselves.
You are worse than the shitskinned paki nigger in Germany.
>>77602582
>says the slave.
>>77602814
>People not from America posting this shit
Actually embarrassing
>>77602472
Well, I was born free.
You were born german, kek
The only Crusades that were unjustified were the ones against Europeans.
>>77597190
The other poster criticizes you for talking about needs instead of rights, and you go on talking about fucking needs again.
The Crusades were defensive in nature and completely justified.
Also, citing the current year is Not An Argument.
>>77604040
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Piss off you Green-voting faggot. People like you got the Jews killed in WW2.
Thank fuck the yankees got that shit right in 1776.
Hopefully, we can unfuck ourselves too, and stop taking Canberra's dick up the ass.
>>77596604
You europeans
>>77596203
>fuck our country, our people and everything we stood for!
mfw germans
>>77596203
Crusaders Did Nothing Wrong
>>77596203
Krauts, you have your own problems to deal with.
>>77604544
>Shall not be infringed
>Posted by a fellow Australian
Fuck me cunt, when will you stop the Americanization of this great country? Cunts like you are so insufferable. Just trying to fit in with the big boi Americans so mean words aren't said at you, just accept that American gun laws are fucked and are directly leading to their ridiculous amount of spree shootings.
Stop being a dumb fucking East Coast bogan. I bet you're voting for One Nation.
>>77596604
>you are you dumb fucking sheep.
Ironic that comes from Europe of all places.
No, the brave people left your continent for America. That left actual sheep, like yourself, behind. The sheep who are your ancestors. Go deal with your kebab bullshit before you come lecture us about how scary being responsible for your own safety is.
>>77605641
>triggered the Melburnian.
> the Americanization of this great country
Firstly, the "Americanization" is pushed onto us by our leaders in Canberra.
Secondly:
>great country
We aren't. Hate to break it to you, but as a nation we've achieved nothing more than any other country has done. In some cases, less.
>just accept that American gun laws are fucked and are directly leading to their ridiculous amount of spree shootings.
Except that if you ACTUALLY look at the numbers, not just the shit we get spoon-fed on TV and in the papers, that's not the case at all.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427985/media-mass-shootings-count-misleading
For just one example:
New Zealand's gun ownership rate is 22 per 100
Australia's gun ownership rate is 21 per 100
...funny how NZ has MUCH laxer gun laws than us (they can own AR-15s, for example) and don't have any problems with mass shooters.
And your odds of dying in a mass shooting in the USA is 0.72 per 1,000,000.
LESS THAN ONE IN A MILLION.
>>77596604
>>Crusades? That shit was hundreds of years ago, bro.
It was retaliation. I do not make the argument of age, lest I fall into the trend of stating current years.
>I am a U.S. Constitutional professional from Germany
mfw ahmeds
>>77605092
Kek didn't you see what happened in Orlando 'Murica? You got all the same problems
>>77607816
>didn't you see what happened in Orlando
Oh I know Biddie Boppie Boopie. I live here.
>>77596821
ok, true
>>77596604
Go prep your arab bull hans
>>77596604
>cucked beyond belief
>doesn't complain
So the average German right?
>>77596604
>songle
>>77596203
the crusades were a campaign of war fought by nations some of which don't even exist anymore, and the United States was never a part of them.
The constitution however is the foundation of this country's laws, it's meant to limit the power of the state so that it cannot become too tyrannical. That's part of why the founding fathers built gridlock into the system, so that change would come slow.
Rapid change can lead to tyranny very quickly with very little to oppose it. Slow change sees tyranny gradually taking hold and the balance of power can be shifted in the next election.
god i will never not enjoy european tears. everyday you obsessed retards cry about us and everyday i laugh about it
>>77596604
Yes, so that we could fight against a tyrant, but what if that tyrant is our own federal government? We need the tools to fight back against them.
>inb4 jets, drones, tanks etc
Too much collateral damage. Unless you have a compound out in a rural area where there's no other people living, the Government won't want to you know, kill all your fucking neighbors, or wipe out part of the electrical grid.
>>77601781
There are three sources (including fucking politifact) I've found for this and none of them have the US at the top. The funniest thing is that Brevik has permanently fucked up Norway's stats for at least a couple of decades.
https://archive.is/f4gbv
http://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/comparing-death-rates-from-mass-public-shootings-in-the-us-and-europe/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jun/22/barack-obama/barack-obama-correct-mass-killings-dont-happen-oth/
>>77596203
SHALL
hmmm, really makes you think.
>The constitution is two centuries old, we need to reform it
>Yea so what if the Quran is 1400 years old and is the book that Muslims live by
