>>77563533
Gun crime correlates with crime rate, not with gun laws.
Thats true. And police nowhere.
White Power!
>>77563738
Unless it's America. Here that is false. There are almost 3 guns for every adult in this country. So you arm yourself to protect yourself from possible threats, including threats from our all-powerful god damned government.
switzerland didn't give the women the vote until the 70s
how are they so redpilled
>>77563898
They're not called mountain jews without reason, my leaf friend.
>>77563845
Unfortunately in America every adult doesn't own 3 guns
The real problem is that 1% of gun owners own 99% of the guns. This gun gap has got to stop.
To many refugees here.
>>77563747
Isn't Switzerland popping out a birthrate thats only like 1/3 babies born is white?
So in 20 years there will be 2 non whites for ever white in fighting age.
>>77564072
This. Brit bro knows what's up
Except niggers, niggers don't need guns.
>>77563533
Swizerland has much tighter gun control than the US.
You can buy guns, but it's not as immediate
>>77563533
>Libcucks btfo , how will they recover?
Whats the racial composition of Switzerland in current year?
pic related
I'm introducing legislation in Vermont that will tax top owners - the NRA, the US military, private security organisations - and redistribute their guns to the poor. We are going to introduce a federal minimum supply of ammunition - trickle down military logistics just doesn't work!
>>77564157
>control
Literally every able bodied man is issued a fully automatic assault rifle and several magazines.
>>77564317
And they have to keep it in a safe without the bolt inserted.
As for buying new firearms it is a convoluted process
>>77564108
I'd buy that hat.
>>77564108
I would consider a purchase of that hat.
>>77564510
And the magazines are sealed and subject to inspection. However, what part of any of that stops a criminal from taking the gun out of their safe and using it to commit a violent crime?
>>77564112
That's sweden
>>77564072
Shut up gun communist!
>>77563533
fuck off britbong, and your disinfo meme thread. you're trying too hard.
next time show us hot swedes, at least.
>>77564723
Nothing. Just pointing out the fact that using Switzerland as an example to avoid more gun control is counter productive
>everyone conveniently leaves out the fact that its illegal to own ammo
not even anti gun but this thread is pathetic
>>77563533
it's just so obvious that gun ownership is not a link to death tolls but its minorities. Of course anyone who brings that up would basically be committing political suicide.
my grandfather is from switzerland and he said gun carrying isnt a thing anymore and laws became very strict in the last years
>>77564963
It's not illegal, just subjected to the same gun control measures to acquire new firearms
>>77563533
Here's how it works
>White and Asian countries with strict gun laws: low crime
>White and Asian countries with loose gun laws: low crime
>Black and Hispanic countries with strict gun laws: high crime
>Black and Hispanic countries with loose gun laws: high crime
>>77565051
How strict, is getting one harder or keeping it harder?
>>77563533
Swiss citizens aren't crazy ass people
they are polite, calm and rspectful people
these individuals who own guns also all have a military training, and train periodically, several days per year
swiss are the most gun educated people on earth
stop comparing apple and oranges
>>77563533
The reason Switzerland can have all those guns and have such a low crime rate is because it's a white European country. Educated white people rarely commit petty crime or are violent like niggers
>>77563533
That is a great Idea. We should do what Switzerland does.
If you want a gun you have to join the military and have one of the most strict gun laws system in the world.
>>77564108
Damn fine hat
>>77564963
It isn't illegal to own ammunition you retard.
You've just got to keep your state issued ammo at a state sanctioned locker. How that translates into "illegal to own ammo" in the head of an anti-gunner is beyond me.
Here are the Swiss firearms law
Ammo is not banned
Getting a gun is quite easy
>>77565673
>If you want a gun you have to join the military and have one of the most strict gun laws system in the world.
Only if you want a government issued gun.
>>77565621
you're clueless
>>77565498
The typical liberal answer. Only sane people can have guns. But meanwhile niggers are sane and equal to whites altough they have the highest gun crime rate.
>>77565796
t. Tyrone Jamal Niggerson
>>77565729
You're so wrong it hurts...
>>77564072
>>77564208
kek
well done
>>77565955
How accurate is the infographic a couple images up? I dont know much about Switzerland, I mostly just imagine it to be a dwarven nation, filled with gold and axes.
>>77564963
I own a couple of thousand rounds, conveniently stacked in my basement. No lock or safe.
>on vacation so croat flag
>>77566121
Couldn't spot a mistake on first read.
Also the jewdipedia article is accurate on this one...
pic related are me service funs
Easy to get a gun here. But you cant take it with you outside like Texas.
Price for example: Glock 19 4. Gen. 800.-$
WPWW
>>77566882
Nice too see I'm not the only one with a fucked up pist.
>>77566592
More guns equals more crimes involving guns.
But one dude getting shot in the face is better than a stabbing a day.
Those are rifles and they don't cary them around like your pic.
They are service weapons to people who have served in the army.
Handguns are the weapon of choice of most criminals due to it's easy to conceal nature.
The swiss have very few handguns.
>>77566823
So open carry is not even allowed? Why is your crime rate still so damn low though?
>>77564112
Probably thinking Sweden.
Swiss are mountain Jew Nazis.
>>77565814
f- level
>>77563898
Cause women voting obviously leads to destruction of society. Look at the us. They think emotionally. Not rationally. If Hillary is elected, were fucked like Germany tier
ITT: experts on a country's gun laws that they never visited or owned a firearm in.
6/10 for making me rage internally
Niggers are literally the only reason the US has a gun problem, prove me wrong
>>77563533
It must be staged. I mean if I was a criminal and I saw 2 bitches with THESE rifles, I would KO them and take it. It's incredibly dumb to openly carry big guns.
>>77567041
Neither open or concealed.
Sad story really...
>>77566812
>>77566823
I get the sense that our gun culture here is different than yours. My family is kind of strange, in that we have a strong gun tradition without being innawoods hicks, or politically radical, or uneducated, but that doesnt describe the norm. Most families that have guns dont really have a strong cultural tradition of marksmanship or duty.
Can you lend any insight into how this culture developed there for you as individuals, in the hope that I can learn something from that to potentially apply here?
>>77567041
They are rich as fuck, that's why. They got fuckin' BORDERS, that's why. And they serve satan.
>>77567151
Our gun culture is based on national defence.
Yours is based on self-defence i guess..
>>77563533
Swiss on holiday here.
I don't get were the gunfag obsession with our gun laws started, they all seem to think we are armed to teeth and everyone carries a gun. I have never seen any citizens carrying guns. Police carry p220's and mp5's I think. We don't need them because we have a really low crime rate.
>>77564723
Never got a fucking magazin inspected
>>77567127
how do we get people to realize this?
>>77567289
We focus on Switzerland because they have a gun culture like we do, but without crime and mass shootings, so we hope that there is something there we can learn.
>>77567289
Stfu shitposter. Your not fooling anyone with your cuck laws b4 I came here years ago, I always thought you aussies were based. Why must you perpetually ruin by presuppositions of yall
>>77563533
isn't ammunition much more regulated in Switzerland
>>77567480
You can buy all the ammo you want either at your local gun store or online
>>77567378
There are 3.5 million gun in civil ownership here and around 8 million civilians all up. You can make your own math really, but the few people I know who own guns either collect lots, or have them because they were in the army. Even then, they don't have ammunition for it in the house, they'll just take them unloaded to the gun range and use the ammo there.
>>77567473
I'm Swiss
>>77565740
>>77565740
>>77565740
>>77565740
>>77565740
THESE ARE SWISS GUN LAWS
NO LICENSE REQUIRED TO BUY BOLT ACTION RIFLES AND HUNTING GUNS
ALL OTHER GUNS REQUIRE A LICENSE THAT TAKES TWO WEEKS TO OBTAIN
AMMO CAN BE BOUGHT FOR PRIVATE USE AND KEPT AT HOME WITH NO RESTRICTIONS OTHER THAN REQUIRING A BACKGROUND CHECK
DONT FALL FOR THE LIBSHIT LIES ABOUT SWITZERLAND HAVING STRICT LAWS
>>77567663
No you aren't faggot.
>they don't own ammo
I love this meme. Ammo is easy to obtain on Switzerland. Only a background check is needed
>>77567663
Perhaps.
I just find it hard to believe. I apologize if that is the case, for I love you swiss. It just has the ingredients of an aussie shitstorm moment.
If your an aussie, well played.
Also, Xenas hot
>>77563845
we have fucking niggers here mang! you should no that fellow amerifat. niggers and spics do most of the gun crimes. kill the jews,niggers, and spics. everything else falls into place. we do not have to worry about mudslimes seeings how sire trump will be god king.
>>77567775
They don't have strict laws but they don't have open or concealed carry, so the guns pretty much just become items for hobby shooting or collecting. Like this anon >>77567663
here said, many keep their guns after being in the military.
>>77563533
>Implying No niggaz.
This just proves that the problem is Americans, not guns.
>>77567363
We can't. Just be bitter and alone like the rest of us.
>>77568012
Nogs to be spicksefic. That and mudslims
>>77568063
There will be a day of revelation and war. More death than ever before. Will be worth it
>>77567853
Ammo is relatively easy to obtain, thats not my point though. My point was that the people I know who own guns keep them moreso as mementos rather than actual weapons for self-defence.
>>77567932
Obviously I can't speak for every swiss gun owner, but the general point I'm trying to make is that sensible laws here haven't limited gun ownership. This is probably because of overall crime rate though, so I can't say whether anything similar would work in the US.
>>77568238
Ausfailia does not have sensible laws. Swotzerland does.
Banning the vast majority of gun types is not sensible
>>77568238
What works for us works, the problem is the criminals can get what they want regardless, its the welfare system thats created these low income areas that didnt exist before, with all these entitled blacks and mexicans turning to crime, too lazy to actually work, obtain guns illegally largly from cartels, and nog obama blames the avg hard worker
Y'all have no idea what you're talking about.
>>77568566
>Y'all
Are we niggers now?
>>77568566
Regardless of your opinions, I still find you very sexy with your freedom
>>77568692
Texan brah
Texans say yall,
>>77568743
>we wuz texans
>>77564112
No but 7% of Switzerland are Albanian Muzzies. and those are aside from the actual refugees/immigrants.
>>77568357
The idea in Australia is that less guns means importation and creation of guns is extremely expensive, and thus not viable for garden variety criminals to rob and assault citizens with. Instead, the few that exist are used by gangs to attack rival gangs. I've been here about a month now, and I've never heard of any civilians being directly affected by gun violence. Again, Australia's crime rate is lower than US though, so it's hard to compare.
>>77568919
Somebody has to clean all those toilets, trains and buildings.
>>77563533
>Population : 8.19 million
>>77568919
and fuck rapefugees. We usually find a way to get rid of them after a while. Deny naturalisation or even asylum at all. or deport when they inevitably commit a serious crime.
>>77568891
Kek.
Nigs may say yall, but thats a southern dialect, not negroid.
Don't take that away from them, nigs didn't make that
>>77569083
(1.3 holocausts)
>>77564510
>And they have to keep it in a safe without the bolt inserted.
>>77564723
>And the magazines are sealed and subject to inspection.
kek /pol/ is so much full of memes, hardly 10% of what is posted here is true
>>77568743
Difference?
https://youtu.be/EschrbihJFk?t=4m19s
>>77564317
I only received one mag
>>77564510
Well, you get a strafregisterauszug, then a waffenerwerbsschein and with it you can buy semi auto guns. It's not that complicated really.
Getting a concealed carry permit or one for fully auto guns is difficult.
>>77569425
Texans are well mannered and ethical people. Nogs are self centered, back stabbing animals. Most of south says yall desu. And thats where ebonics got that from when they were slaves
>>77569083
Not a big country, they have cities as dense population wise as anywhere else in europe
Guns and laws are not the problem. It's the Americans and their "culture".
>>77567105
>ITT: experts on a country's gun laws that they never visited or owned a firearm in.
Haha isch immer weder loschtig wenn en thread uf /pol/ über d'Schwiz isch und jede isch en "Expert".
>no niggers
>no spics
>no Muslims
It's awesome that they get to own guns in Europe, but they legit don't even them.
>>77563898
They also took kids away from poor families and made them work as thralls in rich families farms until the late 70s. It just mean that the Swiss aren't humans and deserve to be extirpated from this Earth.
>>77570079
You sound a bit salty mate
>>77569879
>Guns and laws are not the problem. It's the Niggers and their "culture".
ftfy
>>77569910
>isch
Ab ins Gas mit dir.
>>77563533
I thought they have to keep ammo at the range instead of at home
>>77570675
Good thing what yout think is irrelevant to the real world get your facts straight burger
>>77569910
Wie war.
>>77570675
True and you need a special ammo permit to buy ammo, it's heavily regulated. Usually only the police can get one.
>>77570492
You guys are up there with Belgians and Anglos, on top of the list of people who deserve extinction
>>77567018
>The swiss have very few handguns.
dumbass
>>77570846
whats wrong with belgians?
>>77567289
>they all seem to think we are armed to teeth
but we are
>>77563533
CH has no right to carry, making them as cucked as any other Euro nation
Free sig 556 is nice but a far cry from your pic's implication
>>77569552
>Getting a concealed carry permit or one for fully auto guns is difficult.
getting full auto guns is very easy actually.
>>77570971
You are right and the funny thing is you only get that SIG 556 after completing additional 5 years of military service.
>>77570937
Swiss army gun?
>>77570971
>Free sig 556
>sig 556
we have a right to carry but you need a legitimate reason. if there's no crime, there's no legitimate reason. if there's crime, the law will allow us to carry.
>>77563533
America: has gun freedom, and still has crime and shootings
Bongistan: doesn't have gun freedom, and still has crime and shootings
This is atrue bait thread by the worst shills in pol.Swiss gun laws are actually extremely strict.
OC and CC are 99.99% forbidden.
No use of guns, even in you own home can be ruled self defense but a warning shot.
Fucki g shills
>>77571181
no, 46 guns per 100 citizens (children included). these are official statistics, more realistic is 80 per 100 because most of the long guns bought before 1999 are not registered and most privately owned army guns are also not registered and don't show up in the statistics.
>>77571293
>No use of guns, even in you own home
that's not true you idiot.
>>77571186
Exactly like in my cunt, one has to be either a security professional or prove to the judge their life is in danger
Security permit holder is furthermore limited to FMJ ammo for carry
>>77563533
>Switzerland
>2nd highest gun murder rate in the West, directly after America
>nobody btfo'd.
I was in a sports shooting club for almost all my teenage years and had a lot of fun using the STGW 90. We were basicaly children but got a full education on how to use a SIG550 and how to hit stuff accurately.
We also hosted the obligatory shootings of the military people. Teaching people respect of firearms is the most important part about all of it.
There is still one day at the beginning of shooting season where everyone can come over to the shooting range and try it out for free
>>77571450
>survey via the guardian
>>77571450
>>77571450
Of course you gonna use a firearm to murder someone if you have one, actual murder rate is still extremly low
>>77571450
not sure where they get the data for this stats but in 2012 there were 12 homicides with guns in switzerland. calling bullshit.
liberalism is giving every citizen a gun so switzerland proves that liberals btfo conservatives
>>77571568
>estonia homicide rate
I thought Estonia was a white paradise
Pic unrelated
>>77565051
Mfw two guys in civilian rode bikes past me with their military issues openly carried just before. The lies on this board are getting out of hand
>>77571450
why restrict it to only homicides by gun? Oh because gun ownership correlates with lower intentional homicides on average world wide...
>>77565378
I think this guy is on to something i just can't for the life of me pin point what.
>>77565413
Not really of both. It's just a helpless try of leftists to make stricter gun-laws but the major right is remaining.
>>77571752
I for myself who served in Military am going to take open carry my rifle to the obligatorisches schiessen.
>>77563533
Vote Lambright and I'll give you a machine gun and free ammo.
Trump BTFO
Hillary BTFO
Time to support Lambright.
>>77572243
i open carry my rifle every time i go shooting, it's legal if mag not inserted and if you're on the way to the range or back.
>>77572243
>>77572384
Das esch aber ned open carry, das esch nur transportiere
>>77572364
>no "How to take a screenshot"
Newfag get out
>>77569083
Does population size really matter?
>>77572433
Ja mol, open carry isch wemers gseh chan. chunt ned drufah obs glade isch
>>77571354
That is. Justice actually says that if you got time to load a gun, you ca call for help or flee. Unless you are cornred in a bunker you can use the gun. If you shoot in a way that the bullet can go astray, you will be prosecuted, even in a self defense case.
Swss law is madness.
>>77565955
No you're the one that's wrong. Hell you can even buy those ammunition at the firing range without anybody's asking.
>>77573120
Was ist dieser Dialekt der Hölle?
>>77573291
you seem to be an expert...not.
you can have a loaded gun in your home, there's no law saying otherwise.
the rest of your post is just bullshit you made up in your head. read up on self defense laws you mongrel.
Because Swiss people mentality about guns is far distant from Murricans.
While Murricans arms possessing purpose is paranoid property and self-defense, Swiss possess arms mainly for the sole reason of hunting, sport and other recreational purposes
>>77563533
Zero in two have ammo, soooo
>>77573453
Thurgau, east of Switzerland
>>77573589
>i postet the no ammo meme
>again
go flip burgers for minimum wage
that's because it's not guns that matter but the people who carry them.
Niggers will always cause more crime with guns than whites.
>all these shitflinging Swiss army knives
lol
>>77573586
>Swiss not having guns for self defence
what are you even talking about? The only reason the Swiss have guns is to defend their country.
>>77573747
>tfw I had problems getting my carry permit for my Swiss knife
Our laws are so cucked man
>>77572787
the clue is, forbidden weapon registry for danger peoples... In switzerland you can only registre a weapon, if you have no criminal record, and are not from a "trouble land"...
>>77568919
It's not 7%. It's more like 4-5%.
>>77573556
You can, of course. If anything happens, it will be better off. But of it (gun or safe with gun) get stolen, you are in for a trip to our hellish burocracy.
>>77564108
Nice hat. I'll buy it.
Guys. The Schengen has decided a new gun law policy. Can I then buy a k31 still in the same conditions as now?
/POL/ BTFO
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/30/viral-image/viral-flawed-post-compares-honduras-switzerland-gu/
>Several countries — including Japan and Singapore, which have very strict gun laws, as well as Iceland and Luxembourg — posted lower rates than Switzerland in either one or both of the UN and WHO data sets.
>But, again, Switzerland does not require "citizens to own guns."
>The government issues a gun to men for their mandatory military service, but the gun is taken home under "carefully controlled conditions without ammunition," said Mikton, the WHO officer who is also Swiss.
>"As soon as they have finished their military service — typically around 30 years of age — they have to return the gun," he said.
>Swiss gun laws are more strict than the post implies, though less tough than some other European Union countries. Swiss law requires mandatory background checks on civilian handgun purchases and licenses for the concealed carry of weapons, and it bans automatic weapons.
http://www.salon.com/2015/09/14/the_rights_deeply_misleading_new_gun_control_meme_america_should_be_more_like_switzerland/
>The gun is not given to me to protect me or my family. I have been given this gun by my country to serve my country – and for me it is an honour to take care of it.
>You can see that the Swiss militia inculcates the idea of gun ownership as a responsibility to protect the nation while to the American gun proliferation advocates, the reason for the 2nd Amendment is to protect the citizens from the government. Those happy Swiss ladies on their bicycles aren’t likely to be rushing off to a right wing Militia rally against Swiss government tyranny.
>>77574374
Ich glaube das neue Gsetz betrifft nur Pistole und Sturmgwehr
>>77574446
Hoffentlich. Aber das Sturmgewehrgesetz wurde ja abgeschwächt extra für uns. :)
>>77573556
I have actually got a weapon licence for 3 classes of weapons as a security officer. And I have witnessed first hand what happen when shit hits the fan. It is not fun e en ad a witness.
>>77574430
>ammunition can not be kept in the home
Nice lie and meme
>>77574430
>"As soon as they have finished their military service — typically around 30 years of age — they have to return the gun," he said.
No you can buy it for 100 bucks and then it's all yours.
>>77563533
It would take one day for any neighbouring country to invade Switzerland.
Except for Italy, for which it would take three years.
>>77574652
Actually true. But the law is not enforced. So after shooting contests,it happens that civilians end up with ammo home. If they bring it back to the range to shoot it is ok.
>>77574686
You forgot Austria and Lichtenstein and Germany. Only you France is up to the par.
>>77564510
Wot?
Nobody cares how you storage your gun. I friend has his Sig550 with the bolt and full loaded mag inserted right above is bed. An other has his in the toilet next to the brush.
Mine is next to my bed between my nightstand and my library.
>>77570079
>>77570846
Giovanni is angry because we refuse to pay him more than 5CHF/hour for cleaning our toilets.
>>77573666
I thought it looked a little like the St Gallen dialect.
>>77574430
>We have success with a whole pack of things, and some being having money and an amost white only community.
>But I'm pretty sure that if you just do a part of that, it will just work as well in a totally different situation and place. You should try.
>>77564723
>>77564894
WTF /pol/... What a bunch of ignorant fuckers you are kek
>>77574529
Ja und? Es got doch ned dass d'EU eusi Gsetz bestimmt und mir ned e mol chönt mitrede?
>>77574652
I'll tell you how it works here honestly. 90% what you hear is memes.
- There is no law about ammo at home like some other idiot stated
- To buy ammo in a store you need to show the valid weapon buy permit (I think it's valid for 3 years). With this you can buy as much ammo as you want
- At the shooting range you can buy ammo easier and the ammo which you didn't shoot you can take home.
- Some years ago every citizen got ammo from the military for home but leftist were against this so now you don't get free ammo from the military for home anymore
>>77564963
>>77565729
You don't even need a state sanctioned locker.
You technically need to keep it in a locked container seperate from your gun. Nobody checks on this though, ever.
>>77565740
>>77567775
It doesn't mention one important point here though. We do have gun control in one important aspect.
If you're an african or balkan citizen, or from a prominent muslim country, you may not buy a gun. Period. No exceptions. None.
>>77574969
hm it's possible, I guess written it is very similar to SG
>>77575171
>Ja und? Es got doch ned dass d'EU eusi Gsetz bestimmt und mir ned e mol chönt mitrede?
Scheisse, scho weder du?
Mer chönt doch mitrede. D'EU änderet Gsetz för öis.
Wenn mer jetzt aber e de EU wäre, DENN CHÖNTE MER NED. Wöu mer z'chli send, zom es rechtigs mitrederecht zhah.
Hör doch mol uf e jedem fade do dini scheiss "wenn mer ned e d'EU gönd semmer cucks!!!" lüge zverbreite, du blöde huere schofsecku.
>>77570971
to be brutally honest why would you need to open carry in Switzerland?
I know it's an issue of freedom and I get that and agree, you SHOULD be able to.
But if there's one country in Europe where you don't need to open carry, it's Switzerland. It's crazy safe here.
>>77564142
amen
god bless america to be honest family
>>77570593
Eat dicks Fritzl you pedo-rapist.
>>77574811
That only applies to subsidized ammo you can buy private ammo from gun shops and keep it at home all you want.
>>77575615
Alter Schwede bisch du behinderet? D'EU zwingt eus es strengers Gsetz för Pistole und Sturmgwehr uf.
Sie hend en chlini Usnahm gmacht, dass mehr eusi Milizwaffe döffe deheime bhalte. Das hends nur us dem Grund gmacht, wöll sösch d'Schwizer wahrschinli völlig wörde öberegheie und es Referendum über d'Bilaterale mache wörde. Chasch go nochelese, d'Schwizer Botschafter hend extra bede EU interveniert.
D'Entscheidig vo dere Usnahm esch aber völlig bede EU gsi, MER chönd nüt mitbestimme. Mer hend lediglich die Empfehlig för d'Usnahm chönne geh.
Du bisch scho en rise Volltrottel.
>"haha mer düend euses wafferecht ischrenke, d'EU isch jo so lieb und het extra en usnahm för eusi militärwaffe gmacht, wow sie das netti sieche"
>>77575983
>D'EU zwingt eus es strengers Gsetz för Pistole und Sturmgwehr uf.
Abgschwächt extra för öis.
Wenn mer e dr EU wäre, wörds eifach heisse "schnorre zue, der heit do zuegschtemmt".
Ich weiss ned, warum das för dech so schwär zverschtoh esch. Mer hätte die Usnahm NED becho, wenn mer e dr EU wäre.
>>77570971
>>77571028
>sig 556
This faggot is not swiss. It's a fucking foreigner or cucked that hasn't done military service.
>>77575982
True.
>>77576143
I was talking of >>77571161 Not >>77571028
>>77576053
Nei es wördi kei Unterschied mache öb mer ide EU wäre.
D'Milizwaffe deheime ha esch eusi Tradition. Wenn d'EU es Gsetz wörd mache dege, denn wördi mir eus extrem abschirme gegenüber de EU.
Sprich es Referendum gege Bilaterale oder wenn mer ede EU wäre es Referendum füre Ustritt.
Die Usnahm hättis so oder so geh.
Aber ich kapiere ned, wieso du die strengere Waffegsetz eifach so hinimmsch?
Wenn mer höt und Zukunft vergliche, änderet för eus, dass de Chauf vo Pistole und Sturmgwehr erschwert wird, wege de EU. För dech esch das ganz ok wöll d'EU jo "extra" en usnahm för eusi Milizwaffe gmacht het (was jo höt sowieso scho so esch).
>>77576143
Ich verarsch die nome, weiss scho as SIG551 esch. Aber es esch sowieso praktisch alles Memes do, es bringt nüt wenn du die korrigiersch.
>>77576352
SIG550 meini natürli
>Current research from 2014 estimates gun ownership rate around 25%, which is lower than most surrounding countries.
Also I'm pretty sure they can't just walk into Walmart and buy assault rifles.
Isch irgendwie huere sureal do uf Schwiizerdütsch zschribe
>>77576352
>Nei es wördi kei Unterschied mache öb mer ide EU wäre.
seg mer denn wiso mer s'einzige Land en Europa send wo deför en Usnahm öbercho het?
Alli andere müesse das genau so öbernäh.
>Wenn d'EU es Gsetz wörd mache dege, denn wördi mir eus extrem abschirme gegenüber de EU.
>Wenn
Es isch passiert on mer hend öis abgschermt, so guet es got.
>Die Usnahm hättis so oder so geh.
Nei, ebe ned. Wenn mer e der EU wäre, wäre mer met Vertrag bonde, EU-Gsetz zbefolge.
Mer müent zwar jetzt au de facto so ziemlich EU-Gsetz befolge, aber mer chönd ebe Usnahme erzwenge, well mer eigentlich garnit müesste.
>Aber ich kapiere ned, wieso du die strengere Waffegsetz eifach so hinimmsch?
Machi jo ned. Meinsch ech fends guet?
Ich säge, wenn mer e dr EU wäre, wärs no schlemmer. Das esch ned dlösig. Ned mol annähernd. Das esch sgenaue Gägeteil vonere Lösig.
But can anyone in switzerland just go and buy a gun?
>>77576581
Yes absolutely.
>>77571568
>Belgium same as israel
Rip belgium, ruined by niggers and sandniggers
>>77571506
t. Murderer from fislisbach
>>77576425
Do some research about the "facts" you paste, that's embarassing.
The person who estimated that number is some random dude from the SP (social democrats, lefty party) who told our national shit tabloid that.
From what I understand, he bases it on how many people keep their rifle from the military. Which isn't everyone. Sharpshooting is an incredibly popular sport here aswell and he completely ignores that. People get guns for home defense, and he completely ignores that.
The number has zero credibility
>>77576581
Yes, unless you're a national from one of the blacklisted countries. I dont have the list handy and I can't be arsed to find it but it's mostly balkans, africa, russia, middle east and india.
>>77575848
I'm pro cc more than oc but would ban neither
Reason for this are subhumans in our midst and the fact that when seconds count police is only a minute away
God created men, Colt made them equal
>>77574374
Schengen ban gun will never apply to Switzerland. Except a referendum if the government kneel before the EU and that could simply put out of Schengen.
>>77572063
No way man, i think your right, that guy is totally on to something, i think i can juuuust pinpoint it but maybe someone should confirm it.
>>77576889
I don't speak Swiss.
Surely you have a better source then?
>>77577028
it's the toxic violent atmosphere and culture that white minorities create around blacks and hispanics
>>77575171
>Ja und? Es got doch ned dass d'EU eusi Gsetz bestimmt und mir ned e mol chönt mitrede?
Ja findi au.
>- At the shooting range you can buy ammo easier and the ammo which you didn't shoot you can take home.
Streng gno isch das verbote. Aber wer kontrolliert scho.
>- Some years ago every citizen got ammo from the military for home but leftist were against this so now you don't get free ammo from the military for home anymore
Findi eigentli no guet wil die taschemunition wird iglageret und wenn sich en chrieg wür abzeichne gäbtetses wieder use. Also calm-down.
>>77576844
That was such a shame for every sports shooter in CH, I hope that kid gets fucked up really bad
>>77576143
I never implied I was Swiss, 556 was meant to signify that it's a rifle, not the model
>>77577113
The same wikipedia list you linked that non-fact from also has an actual survey cited.
It's a decade old but none of our gun laws changed so it's still relevant. More relevant than what some retard politician spouted, anyways.
http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/publications/by-type/yearbook/small-arms-survey-2007.html
>be the only country that has a retarded gun fetish
>be the only first world country with ridicolously high gun deaths
really makes you think
>>77576643
>>77577011
So I could buy a gun there if I went there on vacation?
>>77577382
Try to use your own brain for a second and answer it yourself
>>77577382
According to this website, yes you can https://www.ch.ch/en/acquiring-firearm/
>If you live abroad or do not have a residence C permit, you will need a firearms acquisition permit or a special licence each time you acquire a firearm.
>It is against the law for foreign nationals from the following countries to acquire, own or carry weapons and to shoot firearms:
Albania, Algeria, Sri Lanka, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia and Turkey.
Do you swissfags have recent informations about the Schengen gun law?
What is the position of the federal council, the parliament? Will they accept it? And SVP, are they planning to launch a referendum?
>>77577312
Switzerland? High gun deaths?
Are you subscribing to one of those retarded statistics that include suicides as gun caused deaths?
>>77577568
i was very obviously talking about the US.
>>77577552
I think not accepting it would lead into a schengen leave.
>>77563533
Daily reminder: Swiss laws are incredibly strict regarding storage of guns and ammo, mental health checks and mandatory training. Also, it is illegal to carry a loaded gun in public unless you can demonstrate an actual threat to your safety and apply for a permit. By all means, follow Switzerland burgers. There's a reason their gun ownership rate is literally half of yours, even with their Government virtually giving them away. They actually REGUALTE them properly.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912
Nice quotes from the article: "The gun is not given to me to protect me or my family," he says. "I have been given this gun by my country to serve my country"
"I'm always amazed how the National Rifle Association points to Switzerland - they make it sound as if it was part of southern Texas!
Prof Martin Killias, Zurich University"
>>77577545
Yeah but what I read, and no I cannot source it, is that these special permits for foreigners are only given to people who can buy a gun in their country of origin. So a brit will need a C permit if he's ever gonna buy a gun here. An american not so much.
>>77577787
Full quote by the Prof of Criminology at Zurich Uni: "We don't have a gun culture!" he snaps, waving his hand dismissively.
"I'm always amazed how the National Rifle Association in America points to Switzerland - they make it sound as if it was part of southern Texas!" he says.
"We have guns at home, but they are kept for peaceful purposes. There is no point taking the gun out of your home in Switzerland because it is illegal to carry a gun in the street. To shoot someone who just looks at you in a funny way - this is not Swiss culture!"
>>77577787
No actually. Citizens can own as much privately purchased ammunition as they wish. They just aren't allowed to take military ammunition home with them.
>>77563533
>everyone in swtzerland has guns
True, militia meme is strong over here
>its le illegal to own ammo
Its not, and its fucking easy to get it. I snuck some Kleinkaliber out of my local range to shoot in my own basement. Shits easy
>safest country in the world
Not because everyone has guns. Its because people are wealthy and educated and theres not a lot of civil unrest. It doesnt matter how many guns a country has. It matters if you are a shithole 3rd world country like Brasil or USA
>>77577787
>Daily reminder: Swiss laws are incredibly strict regarding storage of guns and ammo,
lol, no. You're not allowed to put them in the same box but nobody comes to check.
>mental health checks
None such thing. Literally doesn't exist in relation to gun ownership.
> mandatory training.
Also a lie. We don't need mandatory training to own a gun or shoot one, or ammo.
> Also, it is illegal to carry a loaded gun in public unless you can demonstrate an actual threat to your safety and apply for a permit.
This one's true
>follow Switzerland burgers
Agreed, but follow our facts and not the lies you made up just now.
>>77577875
>Full quote by the Prof of Criminology at Zurich Uni: "We don't have a gun culture!" he snaps, waving his hand dismissively.
>leftist denies national traditions
wow... really makes you think
>"We have guns at home, but they are kept for peaceful purposes.
Yeah we keep them at home so we can peacefully practice home defense in secret.
>To shoot someone who just looks at you in a funny way - this is not Swiss culture!"
Leftist hyperboles really make you think
All in all, terrible post. Apply yourself
>>77577916
Agree with this fag.
>>77577804
I'm no expert here either, I can only state what the website says. but according to the quote
>If you live abroad or do not have a residence C permit, you will need a firearms acquisition permit or a special licence each time you acquire a firearm.
You should be able to get one IF you have the permit, which can presumably be from your home country. But there is probably going to be some bureaucratic clarification with the swiss gov too.
>>77570071
Mate. The non-Hispanic white homicide rate in the US is still 2.5/100,000 aka still the highest in the developed world, even with other countries minorities fully included. Stop pretending that minorities are your only problem. Your society is literally built on gun-worship and violence, it's no wonder your murder rate is so high.
>>77577787
I know that but what is the position of government and political parties?
That wouldn't be bad if we go out of Schengen.
>>77578060
>>77577784
I know that but what is the position of government and political parties?
That wouldn't be bad if we go out of Schengen.
>>77563533
In America you are also allowed to have Ammo.
>>77578039
>Personen mit Wohnsitz im Ausland und Personen ohne Niederlassungsbewilligung (Ausweis C) benötigen für den Erwerb aller Waffen einen Waffenerwerbsschein und zusätzlich eine amtliche Bestätigung ihres Wohnsitz oder Heimatstaates, wonach sie dort zum Erwerb der Waffe oder des wesentlichen Waffenbestandteils berechtigt sind.
https://www.fedpol.admin.ch/dam/data/fedpol/sicherheit/waffen/Brosch%C3%BCre/waffenbroschuere-d.pdf
Page 18 or 20 if you count the pdf pages and not the page number
Switzerland is a fucking meme, any major city is browned up, yet they parade alp villages in bumfuck nowhere around as being representative for Switzerland.
>>77574220
>In switzerland you can only registre a weapon, if you have no criminal record
which is not true
>>77578200
Austria pls. Just stop shitposting and get your shit together with hofer.
>>77577115
Bingo. This explains why blacks commit so many crimes in white countries: too many white people creates an atmosphere where violence and poverty are the only possible outcomes.
>>77574339
>you are in for a trip to our hellish burocracy.
no true
>>77563533
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>>77563533
I can speak only from experience, but I live in rural Maine and literally everyone around here owns guns. Hunting is a huge deal here. The crime rate is extremely low and violent crime/murder is practically nonexistent. We also have the loosest gun laws/least restrictions out of anywhere in the country.
All that being said, the argument of "everyone has a gun, that's why there's no crime" doesn't really apply here, probably for the same reason as Switzerland. It's about the community and culture. No one around here locks their doors. People keep to themselves and aren't assholes to each other for the most part. The presence of guns doesn't change things for the better or worse as far as crime is concerned.
>>77578005
"The law allows citizens or legal residents over the age of 18, who have obtained a permit from the government and who have no criminal record or history of mental illness, to buy up to three weapons from an authorized dealer, with the exception of automatic firearms and selective fire weapons, which are banned."
http://world.time.com/2012/12/20/the-swiss-difference-a-gun-culture-that-works/
Please actually learn your countries laws, there are mental health checks.
And militia service is virtually mandatory for all adults, thus in effect gun-training is mandatory. Please actually learn about the country in which you live.
-no concealed (or even open as far as I know) carry licenses here unless you're some sort of super badass
-no American exceptionalism to make us think we're the shit no matter what so we don't get too cocky with our guns
Basically we're not retarded on an American scale. You won't find a Swiss person who thinks they need to carry a gun to go grocery shopping.
>>77578005
I love you Switzerland. I've got the money, I should apply for citizenship via economic means.
>>77578399
They have niggers, and where they have them there are gang rapes, shootings and what not.
>>77578423
>selective fire weapons, which are banned.
kek
tell me more about the laws in my country friend
>>77578485
Austria you make a fine gun. Too bad you fell apart in 1918
>>77578423
You're funny, I didn't do the military. The psych evaluation saw me unfit.
Guess who has a closet full of guns?
>its me
On vacation in beautiful croatia right now so no pics.
>>77575171
>At the shooting range you can buy ammo easier and the ammo which you didn't shoot you can take home
nope, you're not allowed to take subsidized ammo home from the range. in theory anyways.
>>77578474
Please no
>>77575275
>You technically need to keep it in a locked container seperate from your gun
no you don't
>>77563533
This is disingenuous.
Switzerland have a militia that keeps guns in their homes, but not ammunition.
In the event on an invasion, the militia men will take their weapons to a depot and be given ammunition.
Can't really commit gun crime without bullets.
>>77574280
still way too high, fucking albanians. hated by the swiss, germans, syrians, french, italian, everyone in switzerland hates them.
quite an achievement desu
>>77578536
I was directly quoting from the article, m9. Automatic weapons are banned, thus weapons that can selectively change between auto and semi-auto firing modes would also be banned, it's really quite simple. I thought the Swiss education system was meant to be good?
>>77575465
>Period. No exceptions. None.
you can get an ausnahmebewilligung from your local waffenbüro, then you can buy whatever you want.
>>77578628
Read thread, Tommy.
>>77578660
Everybody hates them, but what Switzerland hates even more is making the valley goyim in the EU mad by strictly ausschaffing and to loose precious mountain shekels in the process.
>>77578674
Please tell me more about how my country works based on information you learn from Time.com
>>77578485
Austria you faggot i hate your country just an honourless bastard copy country whose government can't do a thing right.
>>77578563
There's always a few headcases who fall through the cracks, m8.
>>77578485
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z12D0zt-V4iI.kXGfjpzjOS1Q&hl=en_US
>>77578303
Hm honestly like many laws this is formulated a little loose. I think what this means is that you can buy a weapon in Switzerland, if you have a permit in your homeland plus you can proove your citicenship there.
Another interesting thing that I just read here about taking in weapons:
You can do that if you have a permit similar to the above, but if you are a sportive shooter or a hunter, you can do it without a permit. (If you have an invitation from a shooting/hunter club) from page 26
>>77577018
>Schengen ban gun will never apply to Switzerland
it already does, since 2003
>>77565796
It is actually a fact.
