"Social conservatism is dead." - (((Milo)))
What did he mean by this?
>>77532773
>"Im a gay faggot degenerate and edgy kids like me "
>>77532773
he means hes a dumb jew faggot but doesnt want to get killed by right wing death squads
>>77532773
He meant it's time to suck dick for Trump.
And shit, now he's going to steal that slogan.
fucking fag is first on the day of the rope
>>77532773
it means republicans are gonna have to get on board with queers if they ever want to be president again
Oh look its my hero.
>>77532773
It means that you can no longer object to being penetrated by big black dingus.
You might have to suck on it a bit too.
he means you should learn your morality in church and have the government worry about shit like having an army and borders
>>77532773
he's implying that Christianity has lost it's power in America.
homosexuality is a good way to destroy christianity. If we have a rebirth Christianity is gonna have to be left behind.
>>77532773
I bet this cunt spends 2 hours a day in the mirror looking at himself and fixing his hair. Is he actually a poof or is he just playing the roleplaying as one?
>>77532933
It is a temporary opportunity for them to win over the gay vote. Alternatively they can sit back and watch the left self destruct.
Better long term strategy is to not make any concessions in my opinion.
A gay jew is literally destroying the right-wing from the inside and /pol/ is doing NOTHING to stop him
>>77532773
it means the religious right is gone - nobody cares about the war on drugs, censorship, etc.
>>77533195
the gays aren't going anywhere, it's time to face facts
I hate to break it to you, but if you want to use the government to force people to follow your social beliefs, you are a massive faggot. A real man gains peace from his own actions, not from controlling the actions of others. It's pretty how funny how much you dipshits think about homos. Just climb out of the closet already.
t. someone who thinks gay behavior is gross, but doesn't give a shit about it
>>77533096
Yaaaay!!!
Who is down to worship the constitution and Amazing histories of our various ancestors!!! :3
No more sky Jews!!!
>>77532933
This.
Social conservatism as it was is over. Gay freedoms are here to stay.
Now before you get butthurt; there will always be socially conservative movements but the one led by fundamentalist Christianity is dead; there weren't any good arguments in its favour and being linked to neo cons killed it.
>>77532773
Social conservatism is dead in the West, but it is very much alive in the rest of the world.
You think Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia are socially liberal? Not by a long shot. Even East Asia is a lot less liberal than we are. And it just so happens that those are the areas (excluding Northeast Asia) having lots of children while white women have 1 or 2.
>>77532773
and /pol/ likes this subversive faggot for some reason
>>77532773
Literally only old people get wound up by things like gay marriage and trannies, young right wing people care about nationalist issues which is why they love Trump and hated Ted Cruz.
>social conservatism is dead
In government.
>>77532773
> I'm a full blown faggot that 10% of /pol/ worships and like to pretend I'm the king of /pol/ by making all these threads about me, but at the end of the day literally nobody gives a fuck about me because I'm a big flaming faggot. In fact, the only reason why people attend my speeches is because it's incredibly rare for a non liberal to speak at any college.
>>77532773
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
― Barry M. Goldwater
>>77533300
>the religious right is gone
Then why was Cruz Trump's biggest challenger? There's probably close to 150 million socially conservative Christians in the US.
>>77530918
>>77530918
>>77530918
>>77533555
You think Young Africans and Muslims support gay marriage? Think again. And there are a far lot more young Africans and Muslims because of their socially conservative viewpoints.
>>77533738
And Barry did well in his election, didn't he? Nope, he lost all but the South and Arizona to King Gibsmedat LBJ. Not to mention his ideological son Gary Johnson only got 1% of the vote in 2012.
>>77533555
>>77532773
It means the Alt-Right is rising. "We're Queer, We're Conservative, Get Used To it!"
>tfw you didn't give fags their ultimate "freedom" of fag marriage and so this bullshit hasn't infected your country
>>77533402
No they aren't going anywhere. However they will always be a small minority.
I used to think the slippery slope was a fallacy, the last 5 years have taught me otherwise.
I have no real issue with the LGB community, all the other letters that get tacked on after that now though are bad news.
>>77532773
>What did he mean by this?
"I'm trying to kill social conservatism by co-opting the alt-right."
>>77533738
>a kike from Arizona decided GOP policy in 1960
Social conservatism has been in both parties since forever.
>>77532773
He's not wrong. Social conservatism is incapable of winning an presidential election at this point.
>>77533509
The one led by Christianity is quite alive, just not where it used to be. The future of the Christian church is in Africa, the Latin countries, and the Pacific Islands. It just so happens those are the people who have children while whites chase careerism and cheap casual sex.
Because atheists have done quite the good job at defending Western values over the past 50 years am I right?
>>77532855
This
>worshiping a guy who worships nigger dick himself
>>77534121
This 100%
>>77532855
This.
Based burger.
>>77534287
We don't need one
>>77534054
I didn't say anything about trans or the weird denominations of today, i think those are the best things for social conservatives because they expose the lunacy of these kids
but gay people, and their right to marry, which is really the main thing they want, is not going away
>>77533896
He said young right wing people senpai
>>77532855
desperate times bring forth desperate alliances
>>77532773
Muh morality isn't an argument anymore. Do you remember when many people actually care about gays and abortions? Not anymore thanks to Obama.
>>77532773
Conservatism without a social mandates is just Libertarianism.
>>77534603
There are right-wing people outside the West. I doubt I would consider African and Muslim countries to be socially left...
Christianity is a dead end for the Alt Right
Christians are more interested in banning abortion, the only eugenic measure still allowed in society, that has prevented the birth of 50 million blacks, than actually protecting their nation state from invasion
>>77532855
It is the reddit posters who force meme fag.
I want them to leave.
>>77534646
>muh greatest ally
Stopping immigration is useless if the domestic population is degenerate
>>77534812
... or Nationalism
>>77534039
>I may be a degenerate cocksucking atheist but I am also a feminist hating racist who hates paying taxes so I am super right-wing
This is what the alt-right actually believes.
>>77533896
>You think Young Africans and Muslims support gay marriage? Think again. And there are a far lot more young Africans and Muslims because of their socially conservative viewpoints.
They vote left without exception
>>77534889
Blacks have enough children to overcome any differences made by abortion though.
Meanwhile, you look at Eastern Europe and the majority of Slavic kids are never born. In Russia, you have certain areas where 80% of potential lives are aborted.
>>77533150
He's weaponized faggotry
>>77532855
This
>He hates muslims too and SJW!
You might aswell like Bill Maher too
>>77532773
Take in the fags and the dykes, embrace them, hold them, show them how an AR works.
>>77535117
Here, they vote left for fiscal reasons. 70% of blacks voted to ban gay marriage in California.
In their own countries, they don't vote for socially liberal policies. As far as economics go, they are a mixed bag. The wealth disparity in Saudi Arabia for instance is greater than in America.
>>77532855
fpbp
>>77532773
Republicans have been ignoring their base for Baptist and Mormon nutters and for globalist greedheads. Trump is moving them back to the center, where they can benefit from white working class nominal conservatives who love their country but are okay with condoms, abortion and gays.
>>77535163
>Blacks have enough children to overcome any differences made by abortion though.
Not really. Thanks to abortion they are just right on replacement level
Otherwise you would have an Africa-tier explosion going on
> the majority of Slavic kids are never born
I think your data is outdated m8
> http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/12/health/abortion-incidence-rates/
> The biggest decline in abortion rates over the past 25 years was in Eastern Europe, where access to contraception was limited under the Soviet regime. Annual rates of abortions there dropped from 88 to 42 per 1,000 women from 1990-94 to 2010-14. In more stark terms, going back to 1990-94, 54% of pregnancies in Eastern Europe ended in abortion. Twenty-five years later, that percentage dropped to 38% -- which still ranks among the highest globally.
Also, abortion is helping western europe keep the invaders in check:
> In Europe, just one region saw an increase in abortion rates, and that was Western Europe. This can be attributed to the increased size of the foreign-born population, which may not yet know where or how to best access reproductive health and contraceptive services, Sedgh said.
THE INTERNET DESTROYED THE MORALS OF AN ENTIRE GENERATION.
If you support 4chan or think that "internet culture" is anything other than pure filth, YOU are part of this problem.
The biggest mistake the West ever made was allow the Internet unregulated influence over a whole generation of youth
you like to claim TV is bad, and it is, but the Internet is just Electric Jew 2.0
>>77535627
>unironically being happy with 50 million dead babies
>>77535030
Banning the Internet is more important to save the West than anything to do with race, borders of immigration.
>>77535791
Babies grow
>>77533550
because 4chan is a subversive faggot psyop and always was.
Everything starting with old /b/ in 2003 was to program a generation of porn addicted youth to subvert the right wing. Truth is stranger than fiction.
This alt right crap isn't just a new infiltration of /pol/, it was their plan from the very start of this shithole and we fell for it.
>>77535699
>not wanting to be filth
What are you afraid of?
>>77535627
Um, have you seen the birth rates in Africa? Sure, American blacks are only at replacement level, but Nigeria has a birthrate of +5 and is going to surpass the U.S. in population by 2050.
Those are the Africans you have to worry about because those people are the potential immigrants to Europe. American blacks aren't going to leave this country.
By the way, Eastern Europe may have slowed down on abortion, but 38% is still very high and their birth rates are still far below replacement level and have been for over 30 years.
>>77535699
/pol/ has become the last bastion of non-degenerate values in the west
>>77536021
exhibit A
proof that 4chan is, and always was degenerate
the alt right fags are wrong but so are those who defend 4chan or /pol/ as if it was ever a bastion of morality. this site, as well as most sites we visited as teenagers were all part of a new wave of psyops to demoralize our generation. It is to millenials what the Beatles were to our parents
>>77535819
UNDERRATED POST
Internet is where all these degen assholes came from. Before that people didn't have to deal with furries, sjws, millenial issues, hipsters etc
>>77536163
BULL
FUCKING
SHIT.
it's just the refuge for degenerates who pride themselves on being just slightly less degenerate than their peers (or in many cases, actually worse, but closeted). Nothing more.
>>77536247
No such thing as an Amish feminist
all the modern problems are technological in origin.
Social conservative as it is now is a regressive reactionary movement.
What it should be is a slow progress movement to moderate the radicals.
>>77533150
He plays it up so he can't be called out as being a white male oppressor.
>>77536100
>Sure, American blacks are only at replacement level, but Nigeria has a birthrate of +5 and is going to surpass the U.S. in population by 2050.
That is my point exactly
without abortion blacks would have a birthrate in that level
> Those are the Africans you have to worry about because those people are the potential immigrants to Europe
Those are africans rthat would not exist if there was a proper program of abortion and contraception in those countries
but the churches would rather cry about the evil of condoms and feed them endlessly
>>77533749
But they're powerless and too split and still fighting against Rock 'n Roll.
>>77533749
its why cruz got BTFO hard
it boggles my mind how so many "right wingers" can go this far into opposing globalism and the media and never realize that the INTERNET Is the main vector this crap is pushed.
There is nothing redeemable positive about the Internet. Not even learning, anyone who wanted to learn the truth before the Internet still could becuase they would be willing to read and talk to people.
The Internet is inherently entrenching the world in globalist degenerate culture. It must be destroyed
>>77535819
confirmed for not watching late american television in the 90s
the current direction was set by the mass media
>>77536441
So?
Just goes to show that democracy is degenerate and you shouldn't have faith in man at all.
>>77533210
This
>>77536572
Yes, for the mainstream. The SJW shit is partly programmed via 90's media.
4chan and Internet culture was programming the next generation for what's gonna be mainstream culture in 4-5 years from now.
>>77532773
>the Jews have won
>>77536595
I'm not disagreeing with you, in fact, I agree.
But "social conservatism" in the US is not taken seriously. They are fighting the last war, and if you're still protesting "video games" in the 2000s, you're not going to even engage anybody's interests.
>>77536458
No his social conservatism is the only reason he had any chance at all. He didn't win because people see him as a slimy scumbag and generally unlikable.
>>77534287
If that's what he meant, fine, but the principle of social conservatism isn't dead. The only thing that could kill it is technology completely replacing the principle of evolution by creating something more effective. We've interfered in reproduction a lot, but the results have all been poor. The Islamic threat IS the revenge of social conservatism.
>>77535254
>this swedish don't like Bill Maher
What is your fucking problem?
Also this fucking faggot, Milo, is based and redpilled as fuck.
>>77536545
> to the INTERNET Is the main vector this crap is pushed.
No it isn't
What evidence do you have of that?
The immigration act of 1965 was pushed in a time where the internet didn't exist, the civil rights act was pushed by the churches, everything that has happened ever since have been simply further extentions to those acts
>>77532773
Not celebrating him like the Reddit fags but he is on our side. He's a Trump supporter.
I don't think he deserves the kind of publicity that he gets though. I'm pretty much neutral to slightly in favor.
>>77536880
Yup. The stupid "Zodiac Killer" meme was an expression of this.
(It was still a stupid meme, he doesn't even share the same facial features with the drawing)
>>77536852
If only the US listened to those people in the 90s
they were 100% right, it's just that we as the kids from that era were brainwashed by those very things (video games, Internet)
>>77532773
Source?
If 90's social conservatives actually managed to get the Internet and video games under stricter regulation (at the very least like China) then most degeneracy /pol/ complains about wouldn't exist and most of you would be happier.
>>77537058
It was during his speech at the Orlando club.
>>77536686
The SJW shit was pushed through the jew-ridden colleges
Internet has been to a large extent a place where right-wing opinions can be expressed without fear of censorship ever since its beginning, while the Left has depended on strictly controlled outlets
Just read the comment sections of new articles, or the polling made online, it always favors the right
The ones pushing the degeneracy the hardest are old hippy professors and jew media bosses
>>77537138
This is leftish thinking, and unamerican.
>>77532773
It means go fuck yourself you neocon cuck
>>77537041
You're quite right, but it's not enough to be "right." You also have to be a fighter. And social conservatives REFUSE to fight out of principle.
A lot of them talk about "rising above it" and "being the better person." Granted, that might come from some kind of WASP/Germanic extreme introversion or some latter-day Christian morality, but it's not a winning strategy. Nobody likes someone who loses "out of principle." It's like when people claim "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game." Only losers say that.
To continue from my previous post: Have you noticed that social conservatives don't like heroic poetry? It's because they lack a certain . . . vigor.
>>77537304
If anything the alt-right are just an alternative version of neocons that came from the left.
>>77537253
I wonder who is behind this post dot jay peg.
>>77533210
never seen it this way before......
:o
>>77537138
how exactly do you imagine events would have developed?
Because this is what would have happened:
> internet gets under strict regulation
> people only get their info from jew-approved outlets
> amnesty is pushed faster, USA white minority in 2030
> the season finale of Dawson's Creek showing the first passionate gay kiss on TV appears the same in 2000
> more and more TV programs push for gay sainthood, shows that present gays as moral saints (i.e.Friends, Will & Grace) are pushed the same
> TV proceeds to push transexualism and pedophilia with little to no opposition
>>77537325
You're right, they fucked up by not just trying to get the whole Internet banned.
"rising above it" is exactly the altright/4chan attitude
really fighting would be acting just like the SJW's, shutting down the enemy's free speech instead of caring about it like 4channers do.
We should stop worshipping internet anonymity, if we had a place with strict right-wing moderation we'd get things done. But now, 4channers compromise with faggots instead because muh free speech
>>77532855
This. Once we have no more use of this half kike faggot. We will toss him to the side just like we did with Ben Shapiro.
>>77532773
It means exactly what he said. The percentage of people who are religious and obsess over stupid shit and vote for rick Santorum and Mike Huckabee are growing smaller and smaller. Most younger right wing people view them as nuts.
>>77537731
>if we had a place with strict right-wing moderation we'd get things done
>What is stormfront
>>77537431
It's because they weren't hard enough on technology and feminization through the service economy and corporate capitalism.
>>77536910
Yes, that's what he meant. He has elaborated and clarified it before.
>>77532773
Gays won.
That battle is over.
>>77537431
but you got me there, I'm literally autistic, I'll never be the type to fight. I'm a dysgenic piece of trash and maybe I should give up and become a left winger because at least I'd stop being a hypocrite
>>77537937
Apropos that thought . . .
What ever happened to outlets like ANUS and corrupt, which were right-wing without being as vulgar as stormfront?
>>77538038
Good point.
Is he lamenting or celebrating the death of social conservatism?
>>77532773
He means that the younger generation of right wingers detest shill creeps like Ted Cruz who wish to impose their own morality onto others and thus restricting the individual freedoms of the people
He doesn't mean that conservative values among individuals or communities is dead
Social conservatism is dead. I think it's pretty self-explanatory and pretty obvious. Time for Republicans to start moving towards a more libertarian (though not in the extreme) ideology. Hell, Democrats are making it easy for you by embracing social interventionism as opposed to the old Democratic ideology of social liberty. You can keep your opposite-corners split.
>>77538155
Awww, now I'm said senpai.
>>77538257
SAD, damn my proofreading
>>77538257
I think getting elements of the radical left on board with some sort of neo-Luddite uprising might be the only way for tradition to ever come back. And even then, getting people to give up technology is never an easy sell. Hell I'm an electrical engineer and I can't even fathom how I'd live that way I just know the truth about it.
>>77538251
> towards a more libertarian (though not in the extreme) ideology
Not really. The move needs to be done towards nationalism and protectionism (someone like Trump but without a bizarre past like donating to Hillarry and Trump University)
"Weed lmao" good goys already vote democrat
>>77532773
Lol, HAHaHa.
I've been saying forever that this fag is subverting us. And his work is almost done. Just look on /pol/ to see how cucked we are becoming.
>>77538442
contd.
you already have a large group of liberal youth abandoning cities to work on organic farms.
Now imagine if blood and soil conservative groups started to move into the same area, and attract disenfranchised male leftists who are disillusioned with feminism/SJW but still hold many of the same anti-corporate views.
really makes me stop scrolling and tl:dr lol
only one (You). Really makes you think..
>>77538565
it's not as simple as Milo subverting /pol/.
4chan and /pol/ were CREATED to subvert us in the first place and this is just the end of their plan.
>>77532773
It means that people are as sick of the government telling them how to live their lives because of "muh degeneracy" as they are of being told how to live their lives because of "muh political correctness".
Even those of you in favor of a full on theocracy need to realize how much people chafe at unquestionable authority. Normal authority is usually accepted, but uncompromising "because I said so" authority will just perpetuate the swinging of the pendulum. It's honestly in your best interests to cede relative non issues like gay marriage so that you can continue to champion more important things like putting our nation first and gun rights.
Or you can just call me a faggot, stage a violent uprising, enjoy roughly 20 years of your theocracy, then bitch and moan as everything swings back, wondering why your grandkids are advocating for legal bestiality and pedophilia as overseen by the communist government.
>>77538442
The radical left does not exist any longer. Stalin has been dead for 60 years now
What you have now appearing as "radical left" is a bunch of neo-puritans obsessed with sin and "bad thoughts", they can't be neo-luddite insofar they are (dimly) aware that they can't survive without a bureaucratic technocracy feeding them
>>77532773
Milo is right social conservatism is dead
you saw all those cuckservatives.
we are now National Socialists.
>>77538670
> large group
source?
>>77538494
Oh please. You're not going to escape the fossilization process by retreating even further into the past. The recent cry for nationalism is a sad last cry of a dying science. One that does not realize that Globalization is not a matter of policy, but a matter of course- caused not by political factors but by technological and social ones.
>>77538494
Trump going full weed lmao could grab the stoner vote. He's already for medical marijuana which is better than Clinton.
>>77538251
What exactly is a "Neo-Con"? A "Cuck-Servative"? A "Goldstein Republican"? Or a "Corporate Shill" in your book?
You know what you get when Rebuplicans stop being socially Conservative?
You get MY country. USA will be the next Canada in less then 20-30 years, if these power hungry, greedy, degenerates sell out for power.
>>77538858
Maybe not a large group, but I live in NYC and a massive number of the hyper-liberal people I grew up with in school are doing things like dropping out of college to farm and other "hippie" stuff like sustainable development.
I think if the right started taking more of an environmental angle (I'm not even talking climate change bs) it might be appealing to urban youth who are sick of the unnatural society we live in.
>>77538755
dude if you dont think degenerate lifestyles being promoted and incentivised through "freedom" doesnt bring in highly oppressive left wing totalitarianism you are out of your mind
people who live a life of decadence are out of touch with reality and are prime candidates for marxist indoctrination and other pathetic lies
>>77538670
There is a problem, as >>77538766 points out:
> they can't be neo-luddite insofar they are (dimly) aware that they can't survive without a bureaucratic technocracy feeding them
Everyone is functioning based on the assumption of a bureaucratic technology taking care of us. It's inherent, especially in the millennial generation.
>>77538755
>implying there is anything wrong with paedophilia
>>77539181
At least wait until it bleeds Straya.
>>77539006
All of those terms have noncontroversial, universal meanings.
>>77538251
>Time for Republicans to start moving towards a more libertarian ideology.
You're fucking retarded, anon. Libertarianism isn't preferable or ideal.
>>77538906
(((You)))
>>77539181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0NcaxmGHo
>>77538906
Your a Communist Marxist spouting the new bullshit about the march into the Future!
Only for your plans to go to shit and drag yourself and all thoughs around you, 600 years into the past.
>>77539049
Ironically though we have a lot of feminsts and radical SJW's championing very social conservative causes (such as banning porn) though for the completely wrong reasons.
that's true though and I can't see how I'm any better than the rest given I work in the tech industry lel
>>77538906
Globalization is dying, the World is becoming more nationalistic as resource stress grows
Do you think that China is re-asserting itself in the South China Sea because they wanna sing "kumayah"?
That Kurds are not fighting for their nation state, but for some bizarre dream of "world peace"?
That "black lives matter" is anything but a declaration of tribalistic nationalism, willing to ignore facts insofar it is only concerned with preventing the rule of what they consider a foreign power?
That globalization itself can survive the fragmentating nature of post-post-modernity nd 3-d printers?
Don't make me laugh
>>77539367
>globalization is dying
bullshit, it's just becoming virtualized and digitized.
People now care more about websites than real countries, just look at the 4chan vs reddit war
It wasn’t as if Thomas Jefferson didn’t have more pressing matters to attend to. He was governor of Virginia, then minister plenipotentiary to France. And, oh yes, there was the matter of writing the Declaration of Independence. Despite all these responsibilities, for more than a decade Jefferson was obsessed with a nasty theory of natural history coming out of the salons of Europe. He took it upon himself to correct the scientific record and fight a slander against his country—a slander that had political, philosophical, and economic consequences. Jefferson, the great polymath, didn’t fully realize what he was getting himself into; the ugly theory he was set on dismantling would engage many of the world’s finest minds long past his own death in 1826. The trouble started with Count George-Louis Leclerc Buffon, curator of the King’s Natural History Cabinet in France and arguably the most famous scientist on the planet in 1749, when he began publishing volumes of what would become a 6,000-page encyclopedia of natural history called Histoire Naturelle. In it, he proposed what became known as Buffon’s theory of New World degeneracy. Buffon argued that because North America was a cold and wet clime, all species found there were weak, shriveled, and diminished—they were degenerate. Buffon proclaimed that North America was a land of swamps, where life putrefied and rotted. Try to raise domesticated species—cattle, pigs, sheep, goats,whatever—in this place, Buffon proclaimed, and they, too, would degenerate, producing lines of puny, feeble offspring. Buffon claimed to see the effects of degeneracy on the indigenous people of the New World. Native Americans, Buffon wrote, were stupid, lazy savages who degenerated for the same reason that animals did—the cold and humidity. To add to the insult, the count argued that by failing to drain the swamps, Native Americans were responsible for promoting the wet climate that led to degeneration in the first place.
>>77532773
That we are cucked
>>77539341
>>77539367
Does anybody know why Stefan still haven't made a video discussion with Milo? I would expect then to like each other?
>>77539442
Don't you think a virtualization/digitalization of globalist forces will cause a final break from reality which will leave its citizens unable to function and send us into a dark age?
Honestly wanting your opinion.
Ok besides Gay marriage and abortion. Which are two fights that have been lost likely for good.
What are the major social conservative battllegrounds?
What exactly are Milo's qualifications? How did he garner interest? Why was he invited to debates apart from being gay? Why is a gay man so concerned about feminism if he isn't directly affected by it the way straight males are? Why was his rise to popularity so rapid? Why does he down play his Jewish ethnicity? Why is he so outwardly and vocally gay? Apart from his attacks on feminism what makes him "right wing"?
>>77539632
It's definitely possible
Maybe it's a good thing to let the SJW/feminist crowd pass draconian laws simply to regress the framework to the point where the same system can be used for social conservatism.
Very discomforting to view it this way, but this might be the ultimate redpill. Fighting the feminists might be the wrong way to look at it, better a feminist dictatorship than a decaying demcracy. The former can be replaced by a conservative empire.
>>77539040
The problem with your assumption that the urban youth is sick of the unnatural society we live in, is that you assume they are actually sick of it
To a large extent, they are simply morally signalling that they are
We are talking about people that fundamentally misunderstand nature, that believe nature is some sort of utopia, not the hell where the organism that does not eat is eaten
Do you think that someone that would really care about self-reliance in a dangerous natural world would be as anti-gun as they are?
>>77539798
I think he was funded by the Tavistock Institute. Look it up. British psyops agency that produced most counter-culture movements since the 60s
I somewhat agree with Milo here, though I suspect it's for the wrong reasons.
I don't care for a more "libertarian society." People making their own decisions, in the modern age, often results in them making the wrong choices, which adversely effect the community and society as a whole.
The "Social Conservatism" that has been running the show since the cultural revolution of the '60s is dead. It was useless anyway. It only cared to stop an opt-in eugenics program (abortion) and cry about the (relatively harmless) gays.
That brand of Social Conservatism is dead, and good fucking riddance. What the West needs now, is borderline-Puritanical, neo-Victorian Social Conservatism aimed at undoing the cultural revolution of the 1960s.
Casual sex is what's corroding society, not fags. Promiscuity, the commercialization of sex, fear of commitment & easy divorce are undermining the family unit, not two queers claiming tax benefits.
Unfortunately, a good chunk of /pol/ will ignore the studies that link casual sex to marital failure, and tell me to go back to /r9k/ or /lgbt/. You can't call yourself redpilled until you accept that the "Free love" movement of the '60s originated from cultural Marxism, and is one of the most destructive social forces active in society right now.
>>77539442
Nice projection, but a meaningless one the same
How many people have died in this "4chan vs reddit" war you speak of?
None
>>77539900
I'll check it out like those dubs anon, hope it takes me in the right direction. I only hope anons here ask the same questions.
>>77539988
that's exactly the thing though. Since WWII every innovation has been about minimizing real life harm and real life in general. Nukes definitely had something to do with this attitude..
There's that quote from the Colonel in MGS2 that captures what I'm trying to say exactly.
>>77539824
That's the idea of the swinging pendulum, isn't it?
I have to get back to studying. Thank you for the thinking material.
>>77539985
>Unfortunately, a good chunk of /pol/ will ignore the studies that link casual sex to marital failure, and tell me to go back to /r9k/ or /lgbt/. You can't call yourself redpilled until you accept that the "Free love" movement of the '60s originated from cultural Marxism, and is one of the most destructive social forces active in society right now.
I was under the impression that everyone agreed on this.
>>77540158
See that's the problem with Trump, and the "alt right". , they want to try and hold on to the pendulum and stop it from swinging.
In reality a hyper degenerate leftist authoritarian regime would be a quicker route to turn the pendulum back. Something even crazier than Hillary
>>77540165
Nope, /pol/ is now full of "alpha male" roleplayers who shame male virginity and consider fornication to be an essential part of being a man
>>77539042
It does not bring totalitarianism out directly, no. I can agree that it can serve to weaken the populace so as to allow the oppressive far left rhetoric to take root.
However, degeneracy is more like a primary infection that does little damage by itself but lets a secondary infection (i.e. leftist totalitarianism) invade and kill the host. I view the former as a necessary evil because like I said, absolutism always causes the inevitable swing.
Also, you actually need several more steps between the degeneracy and totalitarianism to have it happen. For one, the reason degeneracy leads to collapse is because suddenly the degenerates want the government, and by extension the rest of society, to share in the responsibility of their mistakes. If you have a degenerate who gets knocked up at 18 without any job prospects or means of supporting themselves, they would normally die off (as they should) unless they completely discarded all degeneracy as needed to survive working their fingers to the bone. Personal accountability in a capitalistic society serves as a perfect balance to the potential degeneracy of freedom, because the person must now either contribute to society or die.
The issue comes in when bleeding hearts remove all accountability of degenerates, thus putting the burden of their mistakes on the largely innocent normal person. Now you have all of society having to support each and every lazy, stupid, irresponsible, worthless piece of human refuse. The refuse, being both largely amoral and animalistic, will then proceed to breed like rats, putting more strain on the system. In turn, their offspring use democracy to bring leftist totalitarianism into the forefront, first for the gibs, then so the common man can be censored from criticizing the refuse.
>>77532773
He means he killed it. Probably exactly as planned. I'm convinced the "alt right" joke was a well-poisoning attempt the entire time.
>>77540165
I've tried making threads with links to studies and the names of cultural Marxist thinkers/works which advocate it.
Every time, I get a few guys who understand and talk about things like tradwives, opting out of marriage, and what can be done.
Despite that, over half of the posts accuse me of being an /r9k/ virgin autist, who would "hold completely different opinions if [I] got laid once in a while."
If I bring gays into the mix, and say that straight people are damaging the nuclear family more than fags, I usually get told to go back to /lgbt/.
Maybe I've just caught the worst of luck, but there's a lot of hedonists here.
>>77540405
cont'd
My main point is that attacking the degeneracy is not practical due to humans chafing at such authority. Moreover, I personally could not give 1/16th of a fuck what a person does with their personal life so long as it does not adversely affect anyone else. So if the degeneracy is not something that hurts another individual or places strain upon the rest of decent society (which as I said can be avoided by cutting all the gibs) I'd say its not worth the time.
>>77540165
I fucking agree, man.
>>77540375
So reddit?
>>77540154
Then blame the pacifying apocalyptism brought about the nuclear bomb for the modern degeneration, not the fucking internet!
>>77540500
* about by the nuclear bomb
>>77539985
I agree, There are retards here who think impregnating 5 women then leaving them to be raised with a single mother will save the white race.
White bitches are this kikes biggest supporters
>>77540580
Males can only blame themselves, for it was males that decided it was a good idea to let women vote
>>77539985
Ironically though guess who's cracking down on casual sex? FEMINISTS.
They're coming full circle to undoing their own sexual revolution (though just for men, but it's a step). Just look at those "consent" laws on campuses.
Pretty soon they might actually agree with Islam and bring back arranged marriage.
>>77532855
fpbp
social conservatism IS dead
what comes next is National Socialism
out of the closet, into the gas chamber
>>77539985
>That brand of Social Conservatism is dead, and good fucking riddance. What the West needs now, is borderline-Puritanical, neo-Victorian Social Conservatism aimed at undoing the cultural revolution of the 1960s.
Does that mean you want to ban waifu games? Fuck off.
>>77532773
He means him and other jews (both garden-variety marxists and crypto) have managed to infiltrate conservatism to remove things like decency, morality and normalcy
so much so that he and another faggot can claim to represent the conservative ideology, french each other and enjoy the clapping and retweets
this is his victory lap
NEVER YIELD ON ANY LEFTIST ISSUE OR ACCEPT ANY LEFTIST COMPROMISE
>>77538167
>ANUS
Pretty sure that outlet is till being used by our dear friend Milo
He meant
>I'm a faggot so I'm conservative as long as it is easy and I don't have to give up anything for it
so in short "Millenal conservative", because not being a degenerate is hard work
>>77536188
/pol/ was never a bastion of morality. That has always been a lie. Old/pol/ WAS, however, a bastion of truth and reality in a sea of lies. Nu/pol/ is just edgy facebook.
>>77540737
that's correct.
But also bring real life flesh and blood waifus back. And the latter is more important than the former and should be higher on the priority list
>>77532773
Are you telling me we have to accept butt pounding pride parades and Caitlyn Jenners?
I will vote for the party that hates both any time.
>>77536163
>A place that worships neoliberalism, jews and faggots who love nigger cock is a bastion of morality
Unwarranted self importance: the post.
>>77540436
Killed the alt-right?
How?
I don't follow him, neither does much of the self-professed alt-right. We have our own ideals, they merely parroted some of them to gain attention and favor. They aren't even leaders, just loud and obnoxious pundits.
We are the right, as long as we jeep our ideals and passion we can't lose.
>>77532855
If we ally with this faggot, our movement will die. Do not believe (((Milo)))'s lies. Jews have done this to every political movement since National Socialism.
>>77541041
4chan was never moral, it's part of the same cancer that's on TV and channers are too brainwashed to deny it. For fuck's sake half of this place is a porn site. As much as I hate edgy milo fags, I hate even more people who claim 4chan was ever anything other than filth.
>>77540801
You may blame the Jews, but never stop an enemy when he is making a mistake. Christian morality has reverted back to its original poverty-worshipping nature
Christians have become clones of Martin of Tours, "if you kill your enemies, you lose" is their new anthem, and to feed the endless masses of africans and invite them to Europe is their reason of being
Rejecting Christian Morality means finally growing up, finally realizing Santa Claus is not real, facing Nihilism face to face
But Nihilism comes before Self-Actualization
and then everything will be on table
>>77541148
I almost wonder if it's a better idea to find FEMINIST allies against degeneracy. Sounds bizzare but it may actually be the better path to lead and utterly repels the redditor/anime degenerates.
We're at a point where some groups of radical feminists are less degenerate than 4chan
it means people don't want their lives controlled by arbitrary feelings bullshit
>>77541515
you're controlled by fear and lust everytime you come to /pol/ or /b/ respectively.
aka "arbitrary feelings bullshit"
>>77541320
I see your point, and personally I think thr MGTOW shills are liberals attempting to make right men more aloof and less likely to connect with women, but how can the alt right gain feminists when the current issues are wage inequality or safe spaces? Current feminism is pure garbage and greed.
>>77541320
I know some self-identified "feminist" Bernie supporters who are actually good people and do not ascribe to Marxist philosophy. When you take into account that literally EVERY name in the feminist movement of the 60s was a Jew, it makes you wonder what that movement could have been of Jews like Milo didn't stick their kike noses into it. How many redpills have we been led away from by associating them with Marxism?
>>77541882
you know, even actual Marxists weren't that bad in many respects. Marx is 50% correct (in his criticism of capitalism) , it's just the revolutionary communism solution that's wrong.
"cultural marxism" is really just a tool of capitalists. It's not truly communist.
>>77541601
has nothing to do with what i stated
>>77541882
Also, first wave feminists were adamantly pro-white and part of their concern involved soldiers racemixing abroad
>>77541311
Tip your fedora elsewhere.
Social "Conservatism" without morality as it's boundary is no different than Leftism. "Morality" without common standards is subjective and thus useless
So rejecting Christian morality won't bring us enlightenment, instead it tumbles us farther down into chaos. Not noble "self-actualization then nihilism" chaos, but rather "it's cool to fuck animals now, just don't penetrate em" chaos
I blame all manner of Jew, native and figurative, who sold our dumbass generation on the benefits of rebelling against the laws that kept us socially in check
>>77534039
That's pretty hot senpai
>>77542281
the Internet is the biggest Jew of them all
>>77532855
F=B
>>77542281
>I blame all manner of Jew, native and figurative,
> who sold our dumbass generation on the benefits of rebelling against the laws that kept us socially in check
So... Jesus for the 40 EC generation?
you see, feminists actually have a stronger moral code than todays "conservatives" especially the alt/4chan type.
Their code may be objectively wrong in many areas but they're consistent.
thus 4chan is actually more degenerate than Tumblr. really makes you think.
What are the odds that a shitskin go full jihad on his ass?
If you seriously don't think 4chan wasn't the purest form of filth, nihilism and degeneracy for it's own sake remember what /b/ was like in the early 2000s. (a cat is fine too, open CP, etc)
"old" internet was actually even worse than modern Internet.
>>77542525
>So... Jesus for the 40 EC generation?
>"render unto caesar"
>rebelling
it's okay i know how hard it is to be clever
>>77542395
it sure as shit is turning out that way
>>77542847
anonymity was a mistake. Real identification is actually healthier for society. 4chan is brainwashed into worshipping the lack of accountability.
really, the Internet should have been treated like the streets with the same standards of decency, and your real face on everything. This is hard to accept as a longtime anon but it's true. Facebook if not for kikes and ads would be far less degenerate than this place.
>>77542022
>capitalists
You mean globalists.
>>77543144
they're one and the same now thanks to technology.
>>77542525
Jesus was almost worse than Milo.
>>77541796
They can gain "Sex negative" 2nd wave feminists who oppose 3rd wave
>>77532855
FP
BP
Social conservatism isn't necessarily dead, I would say that right now it's definitely out of favor in politics. It could in theory make a comeback in a couple of decades, who knows for sure.
But social conservatism will never go away. There will always be institutions that promote its values, e.g. the Christianity broadly and the Catholic Church more specifically.
>>77543030
that's where we disagree as I don't trust government or companies to allow me to express myself without them getting some kind of gain or pulling some kind of shit
Even the best cities have seedy parts. You need places like 2000 /b/, the problem was glamorizing it and then later driving people to it by sites going to the opposite extreme of "say and think what I like or leave"
>>77542847
that Jesus wanted them to pay taxes does not remove the fact that they were endorsing a religion that betrayed everything they believed in, and inverted all roman values of honor, strength and richness, to glorify meekness, poorness in spirit and outright misery
>>77533713
>300,000 Twitter followers
>10%
Words fail me
>>77543701
Someone just read Nietzsche
Milo is a retard.
Social conservatism is not dead, even politically. It's just not going to be pushed on the federal level.
If anything this is the end of social issues being pushed on the federal level, once the authoritarian left gets BTFO.
It will all just get pushed on the state and local levels.
>>77540917
/pol/ used to be heavily Christian conservative before Reddit invaded this place.
It needs to return to being heavily moral and disciplined.
Degeneracy ruins nations. Self-restraint is the only way to have prosperity.
>>77543878
Nietzche was right, and so is Milo. The idea of religious conservatism in this country is dead. Its a corpse. Its never coming back.
What we need is a movement of nationalism, classical liberalism, and racialism, to overthrow the current order.
>>77543878
Someone has actually never read the Gospel, has no idea about how early Christians actually behaved, and thinks that the crusaders that sacked Constantinople were the first real christians
>>77543932
Is that fucking real?
Commonfilth is right, the altright has become a degenerate hotspot for homosexual hedonism.
>>77532855
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>>77542847
>Degeneracy ruins nations
We shouldn't care about nations, we should only care about ourselves.
>>77543701
>inverted all roman values of honor, strength and richness
yea i forgot
crazy how those jews
those hebrew jews
in jerusalem
didnt relate to roman
roman
roman values
Jesus offered very little that was outside Jewish tradition and rules and when he did, it was because the kikes had warped principles and Jesus was trying to make them decent human beings (matt 5:27-48)
Exactly what he said, and he's right. Why do you think Ted Cruz lost to the most socially liberal person in the Republican camp?
Trump's a NYC high lifer who has associated with gays, drunkards, artists, pop music stars. You need to have your fingers on the pulse of your country to lead it, and like it or fucking not, America is a socially liberal country at its core, because it's a country of defiance at its core. The Brits tried to take our guns, so we shot them and kicked them out. The government tried to ban alcohol, so we drank it by the gallon. The right and the left have both tried to censor anything that's even slightly provocative in an attempt to protect the fragile ego of a hypothetical "borderline mass shooter," so we manufacture and consume violent, grotesque, sexual, and controversial media all the more.
There will not be another suit'n'tie Christian in the white house for the rest of this half of the century, mark my words. The Republican party has been forced to change, and hopefully the election of Trump will force the Democrats to change with it.
>>77544446
But he didn't send Paul to convert Jews or fix their way, he sent him to convert Gentiles
He judaized the Roman World
>>77544005
by nature, an anonymous forum can only degenerate more. It's just like a democracy with open borders.
Without strict moderation this is the inevitable result of /pol/'s format itself. If you don't address the very structure of the board the same mistake just repeat over and over again.
>>77544456
Sadly this is true.
America's never been a real nation. It's a masonic lie from its inception (kinda like what I've been saying about 4chan)
for an American, becoming anti-American is the final redpill and man is it bitter
>>77544456
>America is a socially liberal country at its core
t. suburbia rat
>>77544286
maybe we should stop promoting open faggots and men with lisp, who use mustache wax and shove things up their ass?
this is the danger the left represents "i know some X that arent bad, so maybe the majority of X is okay too"
leftism is a plague that must be stood fastly against, no compromises and no special attention for its one-time supporters
>>77544360
>We shouldn't care about nations, we should only care about ourselves.
no man is an island, friendo
>>77544017
>The idea of religious conservatism in this country is dead. Its a corpse. Its never coming back.
And you say that with such pride
as canadians are fucking their pets
people are filling their spiritual need with islam
and americans are letting 3 year olds live their lives as transgenders
we are clearly better off as a society
>>77544815
All you have to do is remake the nation as it needs to be.
>>77532773
rip in peace
Seriously though, I hope it stays dead. Nothing good happens when the government tries to legislate morality. Just look at the fucking Republican party. RINOs have been running rampant for decades, shattering the party and shitting on the liberty that it was supposed to protect. They could only do it because dipshit "conservatives" believed that they could legislate morality, and use the force of law to shape society into an episode of "Leave it to Beaver".
The political right desperately needs to separate its social agenda from its political agenda. You cannot simply vote the social climate back into the 50s. But you can create the atmosphere that you need in order to push back the filthy liberal hordes in the social sphere - if and only if you STRICTLY hold your politics to conservative principles.
It won't be an easy pill to swallow - you're going to have to fight a lot of traditionalist legislation (like gay marriage bans) that represent government overreach. But that's what it takes to make the government get the fuck out of the way so that WE can make America great again.
Don't let me down, /pol/.
>>77545294
> you're going to have to fight a lot of traditionalist legislation
> fight
why tho? You can simply make it a state issue
>>77544815
>implying literally any of this is bad
Collectivism is a lie. There is not, and there never will be, some dressed up talking suit who knows what's best for you better than you do. This is the greatest country on the planet.
>>77545294
you're sadly right, the best way to fix social issues is let society collapse. Voting will never work.
but "making america great" again is beating a dead horse, America was never great, and it's already been completely dead for 50+ years
>>77544622
>But he didn't send Paul to convert Jews or fix their way, he sent him to convert Gentiles
true
but Paul didn't preach socio-political rebellion
romans 13:1 - 7
the gospel is really as politically compliant as you can get
>>77545403
1000+ years of monarchy in every nation on earth would like to have a word with you.
yes, communism and corporatism doesn't work. But monarchy does. It gets shit done.
>>77545470
Paul would oppose the US constitution and putting any stock in candidates to fix anything.
this isn't the same as rebellion though.
>>77545119
I say it with pride because Social Justice, egalitarianism, and socialism are the sons of Christianity. This filthy host is Jesus' brood, and NOT anothers.
Who gave us the idea of 'the brotherhood of man'? Who gave us the ideals of 'equality' and suicidal compassion?
Look at the values of the radical Left with fresh eyes and realize that they are at core CHRISTIAN values! Christianity is nothing but liberalism plus sexual morality and a few ancient prejudices. In every other fashion they are identical. Blindly idealistic, passionately oblivious, hopelessly dogmatic.
>>77545294
>The political right desperately needs to separate its social agenda from its political agenda. You cannot simply vote the social climate back into the 50s. But you can create the atmosphere that you need in order to push back the filthy liberal hordes in the social sphere - if and only if you STRICTLY hold your politics to conservative principles.
I think you contradicted yourself bud
>>77532855
First post best post.
>>77545028
Nope. Quite impoverished, actually. I just listen to people talk and watch what they do.
>>77533150
>>77535182
Semi-automatic faggotry, the same faggotry that triggered a poor gun 49 times. When will this country adopt common sense gay control laws?
>>77545386
That also requires you to fight legislation, because the split second that a bill passes on the Federal level, it's not a state issue anymore.
It's not about saying "yes" to the liberal cause du jour. It's about saying "no" to government overreach.
>>77535996
I love this comment. Sex is a great programing tool. It's what ISIS uses.
>TFW 4chan is American form of ISIS
>>77533096
Last time Christianity was left behind we got Communism
No thanks
>>77534357
>atheists were a real force in the past 50 years
I believe the blame lies on another faith.
>>77545470
You are confusing rebellion with subversion
Jews like Paul and Adorno didn't preach overthrow of the government", they preached subversion
In the case of Paul, the subversion was proto-marxist in nature as well
> There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Paul literally describes an anarcho-communist commune
> 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts.
>>77536188
Comparing 4chan to Beatles? Don't
>>77545995
the final redpill is anti-4chan and anti-anonymity and anti Internet.
>>77532773
He means that it's no longer effective for politicians to browbeat people with religious doctrine. Being against abortion isn't a popular position, and people are going to look at you differently for holding that view. That sort of thing.
>>77546047
> Last time Christianity was left behind we got Communism
> Implying
Last time Christianity was left behind we got the renaissance
>>77546126
You're right, it's more like 70s Punk than beatles
but still degenerate counterculture.
In fact I think Punk is the perfect analogy for it given how it arose as a reaction to the hippie shit yet it's still crap
>>77546187
That 3rd world education at work
>>77545503
>1000+ years of monarchy in every nation on earth would like to have a word with you.
They can send a goddamn letter from beyond the grave, because that's where they're rightly staying.
>But monarchy does. It gets shit done.
Whether or not it's shit that needs doing is another matter entirely. No, thanks, I'd really rather not have to convert or die each time a new, painted cunt backstabs his way to the throne, and I sure as fuck don't want said cunt deciding when and why we go to war.
When you have a monarchy (dictatorship), you have political unrest and bloody revolution. When you have a republic, you have stability and freedom.
