>Pope Francis' enormous popularity -- his Twitter accounts in different languages have a total of about 30 million followers, about as many as Bill Gates and more than Adele -- is a consequence of his openness to diversity and a softer approach to dogma. He represents a modernized Catholic Church. By contrast, the world's second biggest Christian denomination is proving so resistant to modernization that its plans to adopt some timid changes for the first time since 787 have fallen through.
>In recent years, thanks to Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I, traditionally considered first among equals by Orthodox church leaders, the preparations were moving along nicely: draft documents were approved, meetings among the heads of the 14 churches were held, and plans were made for a bigger gathering of dignitaries. Yet the Russian Orthodox church, the biggest of all potential participants, has pulled out at the last moment, following the defection of three smaller churches, and the Council has been rendered meaningless or even damaging to future attempts to bring Orthodox Christianity into the 21st century.
>The ultraconservatism and inflexibility of the faith is an underestimated factor that's hindering the modernization of countries such as Russia and Greece. Until Orthodox Christianity takes steps toward the rest of the Christian world and starts relaxing its harsh dogmatism, these nations will continue to feel the pull of their distant past.
http://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-06-16/the-orthodox-church-stays-in-the-dark-ages
>>77474102
Can we stop this "Cathocucks are our friends meme"?
They wanted us dead since the schism, they put us to death during the crussade and the 17th century. And now they want to kill our nations and societies as well with their degeneracy.
>>77474102
>that's hindering the modernization of countries such as Russia and Greece.
>Only country that can put people in space
OY VEY YOU SHOULD MODERNIZE
>>77474102
Orthodox Christians are at least respectable.
>>77474102
oy vey very bad russia, shouldn't you start reading shitrans in your churches for not offending mudslime subhumans, like sweden?
Be more like your father Russia, Sweden gets it
Remove crosses from churches so they don't offend too maybe?
Fucking nuke your daddy russia..
>>77474102
Well, the Orthodox church seems to be doing well.
The Catholics on the other hand are bleeding members.
I was going to convert to catholicism. But then I realized that pope francis is a false pope. Then I dug deeper, and realized that a lot of the catholic dogma is outright heresy.
So instead, I'm going to convert to anglo-catholicism. There's a church nearby. They are very similar to orthodox. (There is no orthodox church nearby.). They try and be as close as they can to the pre-schism church. Because they believe that the catholic church has lost it's way. They're a remnant of catholics still in the anglican church. With their own priests and bishops etc. Seperated from mainline anglicanism because of a move away from traditional values of the church of england.
http://www.holycatholicanglican.org/about_us.php
This explains well what they believe.
>>77474718
Kek Christianity is a mess
>>77474718
Domnule, esti prost? Cine plm te-a omorat? Cine te-a cautat in religie sa te oprime si persecute? Vorbesti ca o feminista nefututa, daca imi poti scuza limbajul.
>>77477440
In secolul 17 in Transilvania dupa venirea Habsburgilor a venit o perioada de convertire fortata. Asa sa nascut Biserica Greco Catolica in Ardeal.
A mai fost ceva de genu in secolul 11, dar cui ii pasa.
>>77476325
nooo
oy vey such raysism... why don't you convert to islam goyim? And find an arab "qt" so get bright children with the IQ of 80.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDOHj_CXDp0
just popped up
>>77475019
This
By the way, what religion is the most popular in FYROM? Are you Orthodox Christians or Albanian "muslims"?
>>77474718
The saddest part is, they would rather help Muslims and brown people that actual Orthodox christians. Look at what happened in Yugoslavia, Catholic-lead forces would rather bomb Orthodox Serbs and allow Muslim Albanisn to build Mosques on their land than support them in their fight against Islam, who actually attacked them first
>>77477744
Recomand calduros orice tratat de istorie a religiilor poti gasi. Iar cand citesti istorie, nu o face pe wikipedia.
Un avertisment, totusi. Aceleasi perioade istorice sunt descrise diferit de istorici din tari diferite. Cu un pic de efort ai vedeam cate tari diferite au inventat stiloul, insulina, avionul, motorul cu reactie etc. Nimeni nu a omorat ortodocsi in cruciade. Cat despre convertirile fortate, probabil a fost vorba de presiunea gloatei. Nu imi pot imagina popi catolici cu pusca in mana scotand din casa ortodocsi sa ii converteasca.
>>77478280
>Nimeni nu a omorat ortodocsi in cruciade
Ai auzit de Cruciada a 4-a?
> Cat despre convertirile fortate, probabil a fost vorba de presiunea gloatei.
Ordin de la Coroana austriaca din cate tin bine minte.
>Nu imi pot imagina popi catolici cu pusca in mana scotand din casa ortodocsi sa ii converteasca.
Pentru ca nu este in interesul catolicului de rand. Ci al papei si in trecut al unor regate.
Si acum o sa imi pun in cap niste folie de aluminiu. Fiindca unele centre de refugiatii planificate in Romania au fost create sau urmau sa fie create de catre Biserica Jesuita, care are o istorie de a promova "toleranta" in Romania. Asa ca nu am mare incredere in Biserica Catolica.
The one true church remains true to its roots? Absolutely monstrous!
https://youtu.be/RoJsKV6-e9M
>>77475019
>>>Only country that can put people in space
>OY VEY YOU SHOULD MODERNIZE
Well said.
>>77474102
HOLY SHIT. Check the comment section. everyone is calling out the kikes. GET IN HERE!
>bloomberg
>>77475046
Because they are the only real threat to you mudslime scum? Fuck you, Amir.
>>77474102
>western cucks thought the Pan-Orthodox Council meant we would let fags get married and feet lickers be our leaders
Fuck that
>>77479894
the nose has been exposed
>>77475019
Russia is a fucking shithole, the people are dirt poor, unhappy and have very little freedom. It's a third world country and its dictatorship that oppresses innocent people based on religious belief/sexual orientation is comparable to Saudi Arabia's
>>77479527
Fuck you are right. No wonder the West paints Russia as the biggest evil on this planet
>>77480073
Oh fuck off you piece of liberal shit. go suck your boyfriends dick. irish arent called potato niggers for nothing
>>77480073
>oppresses innocent people based on religious belief/sexual orientation is comparable to Saudi Arabia's
I didn't know banning propaganda and public masturbation events was the same as throwing people of buildings.
But then again Ireland is so progressive you must clearly know what oppression is.
>>77480073
>Russia is a fucking shithole, the people are dirt poor, unhappy
Says the potato nigger!
>>77480332
the irish only know how to vote in referendum on fags and eat potatoes
>>77474718
Lol I'm Protestant and my local church is not cucked at all. Our preacher has always denounced gays, atheists, and non-Christians. And were not some tiny little church either
>>77475046
They're the ones who kill you degenerates, achmed
>Bloomberg
>berg
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
Secularists/jews/jesuits/liberals/atheists/progressives/fifth columnists/antichrist/marxists
ABSOLUTELY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
Why has Bartholomew been seduced by the power of the dark side?
>>77480073
Do you have any evidence for any of those claims?
>>77474718
Also keep in mind Protestants made the United States and British Empire, although we HAVE fallen a bit
>>77480519
>And were not some tiny little church either
You are still heretics
>>77480648
At the height of the British Empire the Anglican church had a doctrine not so far off Orthodox one, to the point that some scholars were seen as Orthodox.
Meanwhile in America all the protestant colonies tried to institute communism and failed so bad individualism was seen as the only way forward.
>>77480519
So, what you're saying is that Protestantism doesn't even have morality guidelines, and policies can wildly deviate from church to church.
Honestly, Christianity is unsolvable in America. Don't even try, IMO. It's not really rooted to your tradition anyway.
>>77480073
>Literally "M...my grand father died fighting bad naziss.. and shit so now i can put dildo in my ass while in public."
>>77481082
>imblying plastic paddie had the balls to fight anyone besides the UK when at war with Germany.
>>77475046If If was not orthodox christian, i whoud rather be a muslim, than to be catolicuck or protestards .
>>77481261
Just stop
>>77474102
>more than Adele
>>77474102
>a total of about 30 million followers is a consequence of his openness to diversity and a softer approach to dogma
No I'm pretty sure it's because there are 1.5 billion catholics and the office of the Pope is their golden idol.
>>77480240
Excellent refutation of my argument! Not liberal though, you really shouldn't have to be to recognize that Russia and Saudi Arabia are complete shitholes.
>>77474102
>about as many as Bill Gates and more than Adele
Surprised Bill beats Adele, t b h. Does he tell fun jokes?
>>77481672
supporting sexual orientation bullshit is liberal you fucking potato nigger. also as far as I am aware, Saudis live in greater prosperity than your shitty island. haha
>>77480332
It's literally illegal to speak in favor of gay rights you dumb fuck. That's utterly pathetic, if you're right you shouldn't have to censor counterarguments. Plus they turn a blind eye to organisations that find gays strip them, video them, torture them then send the videos to their friends and family. The attackers don't even bother to hide their faces most of the time, because they know that the government doesn't give a fuck.
>>77482027
Yes, and this is a good thing. This is how Europe used to be before you KEKS came along
>>77482027
>It's literally illegal to speak in favor of gay rights
What's wrong with that? Stay calm and enjoy your 71 genders
>>77481889
Why do you hate freedom Nigel? Do you actually believe that it would be more moral if we actively censored people who attempted to argue with you? Surely if you were right and the liberals were wrong you'd be able to argue with them, so why do you support Russia when they make arguing in favor of gay rights illegal? Do you also think that turning a blind eye to torture on the basis of something as simple as who the tortured wants to love?
>>77482357
>>77482425
"it would be more moral if we actively censored people who attempted to argue with you"
Yes
Truth does not compromise with liars. I don't have to give cucks a voice, that is what has condemned entire races to death
>life has been hard and painful
>start thinking about becoming a christian
>pray
>life gets better
Jesus is Lord!
>>77482489
this is just satire,r-right guys?
>>77482027
>That's utterly pathetic, if you're right you shouldn't have to censor counterarguments
Some things are not up for debate. If you allow retards to talk with other retards about how things should or shouldn't work you get 90 morons asking for their own bathroom, minorities asking for reparations and regular law abiding people having to deal with all that bullshit.
People feel way too much entitled to participate in the democratic machine when they should just pay more attention to the responsabilities they're dismissing.
>>77482357
Don't compare transgenderism to homosexuality, it's objectively impossible and not supported by neurologists who have dedicated their life to the study of the human brain, whereas homosexuality is. And if you can't see what's wrong with censoring political opinions that you don't support because you're unable to counter them you're objectively not right-winged. Right-wingers place emphasis on the importance of freedom of speech, you clearly don't.
>>77482357
>triggered
>>77482027
>It's literally illegal to speak in favor of gay rights you dumb fuck.
WAAAAAAAA WHY WON'T THEY ALLOW MUH PROPAGANDA
>if you're right you shouldn't have to censor counterarguments
You mean like liberals being crybullies when ever someone brings up how BS their "Born this way" theory is?
> Plus they turn a blind eye to organisations that find gays strip them, video them, torture them then send the videos to their friends and family.
You mean like liberals who commit violence against those whom they deem undesirable.
>The attackers don't even bother to hide their faces most of the time, because they know that the government doesn't give a fuck.
Reminds me of something...
And again even if we take what you said at face value it's still not like Saudi Arabia which punishes homsexuality with death.
>>77482489
>Zion
More like Zeon's symbol to me.
>>77483007
how is freedom of speech right wing? right wing comes from monarchism. Monarchs supressed speech all the time you fag
>>77474718
Time and time again it has been proven, that Orthodox Christianity is the only true Christian faith.
>>77482855
What makes you say that? You have a problem with people identifying as homosexual cisgender transbigender Nazi/Unown F?! KYS intolerant idiot.
>>77482489
>I sexually identify as Slaanesh
Couldn't be comfier, desu ladettes
>>77482970
>90 morons asking for their own bathroom
That's a non-issue that's been greatly exaggerated by this entire board. Your stance on free speech is pretty dangerous, how do we decide what people aren't and are allowed to talk about? It'd become corrupt way too quickly.
>>77483007
>if you can't see what's wrong with censoring political opinions that you don't support because you're unable to counter them you're objectively not right-winged
>Right-wingers place emphasis on the importance of freedom of speech, you clearly don't
Reminder.
>>77483007
>Don't compare transgenderism to homosexuality
Why the hell not? Both behaviours are mental illness.
There is nothing wrong with censorship. It was used by right wing governement in past and now left-wing are using censorship a.k.a "hate speech" to secure their postion. You are just useful idiot.
>>77483551
pointless, putinbots have taken over the thread.
>>77483763
He's still Soviet. People need to realize that.
>>77482855
No, americucks have to learn it or face a 6-digit fine.
reminder that the holy catholic church is the truth successor to Paul (Pablo), it's the church that was founded by Pablo in Rome.
Stay mad heretic scum.
>>77474102
>Orthodoxy has to change for Russia, Greece and other countries to modernise
Not in the least. They need a decent leader and an escape from democracy.
The people will always vote for gibs. But for gibs the people need to have a stable country.
Greece is the Prime example of lefties ruining countries.
>>77483382
There will always be people oppressed. Look at nationalists in Europe. How many people JAILED for expressing their dissent against the goverment in TEXTS. One example is Pedro Varela, 2 years in prison for talking about the holocaust. What about nationalistic parties being banned by the EU as well?
I'm very keen on Mostley's ideas of having a fascist goverment with a democratic parlament, but the proposals have to be regulated somehow. I, for example, shouldn't talk about what fishermen can or can't do in the waters because I don't know shit. An envioremental scientist or experienced fishermen should.
With this logic, gay people shouldn't decide wether a christian sacrament nor a civil institution meant for couples that will reproduce is right for them or not.
>>77483749
Homosexuality is not a mental illness. "illness" implies that it causes harm, which homosexuality doesn't. It's also a little far-fetched to claim that 50% of bats and 2% of Americans are attracted to women but fuck men anyway because they're mentally ill. It's pretty simple to test if somebody's actually attracted to men or not, show them a picture of a man and if they get an erection they're probably gay. Censorship is fucked and you know it from how you speak about left-wing censorship. Its only purpose is to stifle rational discussion, and if you're right, you shouldn't have to resort to it.
>>77484486
i hate left wing censorship because it censors CORRECT opinion, not because it is censorship. keep up potato nig
>>77484486
Sure...
Our religion is present on iss
I dont think theres any other space religion in the world as of yet
Step it up heretics
>>77482855
This one is an edited version, but there is somewhere an actual chart which is just as long. The other wasn't a satire.
>>77484643
And what is correct opinion, according to you?
>>77483334
[Post edited by European Comitee of Cencorship]
No, not at all. I.fully support people's gender choices and I in no way discriminate against them.
>>77480073
kys Mick.
>>77484691
>28% of men had more than 1000 sexual partners
Sure...
>>77483952
A good number of russian folk are still soviet. What of it?
You need to be born around 80s-90s to not be soviet.
As for the quote, then yeah Stalin is the most popular figure in Russia as of modern history. Just how Hitler is popular in Germany, but it doesn't mean that he is popular in a way that everyone worship him.
Vaticanum I was a mistake.
>>77484861
right wing opinion
>>77484486
>"illness" implies that it causes harm
Ok according to this pedophilia, zoophilia and others form of sexual deviancy is not illness. Also this applies to trans.
> if you're right
Who decides what is right in democracy? Majority of people who are controlled by media. Great sollution.
>>77485073
Nice argument Paddy.
>>77485159
And what is that?
>>77474718
I actually agree, you orthodox are nothing but heretics..
>>77475019
"Modernize" is just another way of saying abandon core principles and universal ethics and act like degenerate hedonism is somehow in line with Abrahamic religion.
wow the orthodox church is opposed to change, who could have seen this coming
>>77485441
kek
>>77485450
It is a way to suck dick while still telling yourself that you are not a heretic.
>>77485207
http://qz.com/438469/the-science-is-clear-children-raised-by-same-sex-parents-are-at-no-disadvantage/
>>77485720
Homosexuals can not bear children, easy as that.
>>77485207
Don't forget that studies funded by LGBT groups were methodology wrong.
http://www.baylorisr.org/wp-content/uploads/Marks.pdf
>>77485720
good goy. believe our studies.
haha, no wonder Ireland is retarded
>>77485999
Children raised by gays are equally bad to children raised by single mothers. Like a cultural parody.
>>77486039
How could convincing people that gay marriage is not a bad thing benefit Jews? There's no profit in it and Homosexuality is prohibited by the Torah.
ORTHODOXY IS THE TRUEST FORM OF CHRISTIANITY
Western church's are full of homos and perverts
Pope is pied ppiper and you are his rats
Western churches would never crusade in this day and age they've been cucked and infiltrated by the (((merchant)))
Russian Orthodox master race of superior moral fortitude for crusades
Deus vult
Deus vult
>>77486451
Jews are irreligious communists.
>>77486505
What do I do if there is no orthodox church in my town?
>>77486178
They are much worse https://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/21685-lesbian-couple-gives-son-hormone-blockers-says-the-child-is-transgender/
>>77486451
it destroys the white race with degeneracy. aso Jews hate Christians
>>77486717
This is not the norm, I still dislike their behaviour in general.
>All those retards that think Pope Francis is pro-fag and pro-divorce and pro-trannies and all that
>>77482489
>Bipolar junction transistor
>>77475019
The USA could be putting people into space if the government would just approve the SpaceX Dragon manned capsule already.
>>77486969
Same sex couples are NEVER norm. They either rape adopted child or mutilate him or both.
>>77474102
Jews telling us we should modernize our church. They aren't even hiding it anymore.
They probably wish they could "modernize" it like in 20's.
Bomp for the hedonistic hethans of 4chan
>>77482489
>Transnigger
>>77478117
you stupid or what
The Orthodox Church, or One Church how they sometimes call themselves, is more of an eastern thing. If you live in the west, you are good to go by becoming an Old Catholic. It's catholicism prior to the First Vatican Council.
>>77487181
>could
everybody could if %required_conditions% are met
Seriously, though, i wish our countries stop fighting over any miniscule crap, and put combined efforts to collonisation of our galaxy.
>>77487279
>hedonistic
No.
Stephen McNallen, a major figure in Asatru and a former Catholic, literally called the Catholic Church diluted and that it has morally degenerated.
>>77474102
>It's the 21st century
>>77474102
lol
>pope btfo himself.
>>77488296
>the reason the two popes stopped talking to each other for like 200 years was because last time western pope said this kind of shit.
>>77474102
Fuck off. You might be evacuating Moscow right now and things are getting heated but you faggot 1-posters are sliding the real issue
http://www.defconwarningsystem.com/
We're going to nuke the shit out of you.
>>77490546
>Random American Austist Apears
>>77490546
>American poster
>French name
I don't understand this world.
>>77490839
>>77491487
Do they pey you in USD or Deutchmarks or what?
I love your stupid-ass "crazy ruble" threads where you queers act like you have opposition fuckers who are really stupid.
>>77474102
(((The ultraconservatism and inflexibility of the faith is an underestimated factor that's hindering the modernization of countries such as Russia and Greece. Until Orthodox Christianity takes steps toward the rest of the Christian world and starts relaxing its harsh dogmatism, these nations will continue to feel the pull of their distant past. )))
Can't help but read this in Morrakiu's Jew voice.
>>77492203
>give crimea now
An old picture huh
>>77492203
You didn't take the time to read anything here, right? Just saw a russian flag, realized who pays (or peys) your salary and started to shitpost.
>>77492203
>tripfag on /pol/
>pey
>talking about ruble on a religion thread that is not even focused on Russia
Is American Education on purpose making autists like you?
>>77492447
Yep
So, are you ready for the fireworks display that'll be happening above Moscow until you run out of ABM missiles?
>>77492556
>You didn't take the time to read anything here, right? Just saw a russian flag, realized who pays (or peys) your salary and started to shitpost.
Yep
>>77492557
>>77492556
>>77492447
Yeah, bitch all you want but all you're doing is trying to cover up the fact that you're about to get nuked.
Here, this should help you out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5i4ZGVQGa8
>>77492557
Isn't that the event that caused us to start bombing at night?
>>77492895
>YOU WILL GET NUKE
>Be part of NATO
>Be protected by missile shields
>Be in low populated area
>Know that American Nuke silos use fucking floppy disks
M88 I know you are too retarded to understand normal language so I will try this:
U OF STUPID
U SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>77493118
You never bombed at night you retard, that was the RAF. You always did daylight bombing, and got faced smushed because of it.
>people replying to Robesperg
Summer is real.
Out of the many churches I've attended the Orthodox Church by far has been the best. Amazing and welcoming community yet also holds their guns to their values and beliefs and lets no one change them. There's a reason why an Orthodox priest even blessed Donald Trump.
>>77474102
Based Orthodox Church kekking (((Catholics))). Хpиcтoc вocкpec! Boиcтинy вocкpec!
>>77474718
>us
People who use the kind of rhetoric you used have really nothing to do with Christianity and they certainly don't believe in it at all. They just use their Orthodox/Catholic/heretic group as an identity tag and then agitate against others with a different tag.
You were tricked into moral degeneracy by the devil, and you embraced it. Sad.
>>77494616
> You were tricked into moral degeneracy by the devil, and you embraced it. Sad.
> Pointing out the obvious means you ain't Christian
Nice logic there.
>>77492203
Rosenberg i missed you from ukraine threads
>>77493239
I'm safe from nukes. Most of my family will be wiped out but I'll live. No one is targeting [redacted] county.
Don't worry though, you'll wish Ceausescu carried out that supposed threat to have a Kamikaze MIG(or other jet) deliver an atomic bomb right to the Kremlin. What we'll do to you city-state fuckers will remembered for centuries.
>>77493392
Hey, I gotta rub in reality so that your last memories of dealing with an American is him/her poking fun at your imminent demise.
Can't wait to write the history books. Ivan needs an appropriate epitaph expressing his degeneracy.
>>77474718
The Church is a whore's corpse at this point.
Catholicism has been lost.
>>77487197
Montenigger
