Arguing for guns, and your opponent shows you this. How do you counter it?
>>77439835
Sucides
"""youth"""
Self-defense
done
>>77439835
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS FAGGOT. KEK DEMANDS THIS SHIT SLIDES
>>77439835
Remind him that most of them were committed by Niggers
>>77439835
With this
>>77439952
Can also include automobile accidents. Those alone have caused 30,000 deaths in 2015.
>>77439835
Per capita rates compared through non-cherrypicked datasets.
Here go
I use my gun to shoot him.
>>77439835
By pointing out that almost all of those deaths were niggers so there's no real loss.
I'm surprised they didn't try to include suicides in that statistic.
Most of those deaths are dindus offin' each other so nothing is lost.
banning guns is obviously going to reduce gun violence and murders in general
if you don't believe that you're stupid
NOW
the reason you shouldn't ban them is because they're a freedom
no one ever talks about the 100k people saved by guns yearly
>>77439835
Ignore them because they're mentally retarded. You don't argue with mentally retarded people. Have you ever tried arguing with a retarded person? I once tried to convince a person with Down's that Star Wars was not real. It didn't end well.
>>77439835
Brady is my favorite vegetable.
>>77440285
thank you my white friend
>>77439835
Tell him that guns don't murder anyone any more than spoons make people fat. And then tell him to get fucked, because even if there was a positive correlation between availability of firearms and murder rate (which there isn't), it still wouldn't justify restricting even a single innocent person's access to a gun in any way.
>>77439835
>guns murdered
>>77439835
My response would be
> sage the shills
>>77440318
>Believing in math is stupid
No wonder you can't beat emus in a war.
>guns murdered
>>77439835
What is gun HOMICIDE rate per 100,000? And, I don't hang around niggers, so I'm even less likely to get killed with a gun.
That number also probably takes into account the times violent niggers shoot at police and are shot dead.
>>77439835
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!
>>77439835
In 2015 there were 2865 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27626 people were killed and 26149 injured.
Source :http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2015
>>77439835
With this:
Annual United States Road Crash Statistics
>Over 37,000 people die in road crashes each year
>An additional 2.35 million are injured or disabled
>Over 1,600 children under 15 years of age die each year
>Nearly 8,000 people are killed in crashes involving drivers ages 16-20
>Road crashes cost the U.S. $230.6 billion per year, or an average of $820 per person
>Road crashes are the single greatest annual cause of death of healthy U.S. citizens traveling abroad
Annual Global Road Crash Statistics
>Nearly 1.3 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day.
>An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.
>More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.
>Road traffic crashes rank as the 9th leading cause of death and account for 2.2% of all deaths globally.
>Road crashes are the leading cause of death among young people ages 15-29, and the second leading cause of death worldwide among young people ages 5-14.
>Each year nearly 400,000 people under 25 die on the world's roads, on average over 1,000 a day.
>Over 90% of all road fatalities occur in low and middle-income countries, which have less than half of the world's vehicles.
>Road crashes cost USD $518 billion globally, costing individual countries from 1-2% of their annual GDP.
>Road crashes cost low and middle-income countries USD $65 billion annually, exceeding the total amount received in developmental assistance.
>Unless action is taken, road traffic injuries are predicted to become the fifth leading cause of death by 2030.
In the time it took me to post this, two people were killed by cars. By the end of the day, over 3000 people will have been killed by cars.
But nobody is clamoring for them to be banned.
No major newspaper with a picture of a Prius and the tagline "MAKE IT STOP".
No politician crying alligator tears for all the children killed in car accidents.
Shameful.
Source: ASRIT, DOT
>>77440285
>>77440318
>banning guns is obviously going to reduce gun violence and murders in general
white murder would be the same regardless of gun status. and that's a fact. even though you are defending freedom (which is nice) we can go even simpler: Banning guns doesn't reduce violent crime. Race is the most consistent predictor of violent crimes (not education, guns, poverty)
but the murder rate is overall higher than the united states in finland
shitty chart, guns aren't the only thing that kill, awful way to convince someone to give up their rights. 0/10
>>77440406
He has one point, that gun bans reduce gun violence. This is undeniably true. Look at the amount of shootings in Japan or Singapore or Bongland.
Bans don't, however, reduce the actual murder rate, or violent crime in general. In many circumstances, they increase it.
>>77439835
#1 - those numbers aren't scaled by population. The US has metropolitan areas with a greater population than Canada.
#2 - Why are gun murders special? Shouldn't the data point be all murders?
#3 - Do the statistics include suicides? The Brady campaign notoriously lumps all gun deaths into gun murders
#4 - Finally the truth. Demographics of each country. Blacks = death.
America has a larger population than all of those countries combined.
That in addition to a large portion of the pop being uneducated/poor makes it a miracle the number isn't actually higher.
>>77439835
You can ask them why New Zealand has a higher per capita gun ownership than USA yet very low gun deaths.
It's not the guns, it's niggers
So there are less black people now?
>>77440913
how is that possible when we have more guns than people?
How many guns do you guys own?
>>77439835
By showing that assault swimming pools kill more
>>77440869
US is #5 on the UN's Education Index. Learn to spew bullshit better.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Index
>>77439835
9,500 isnt even 0.1% of americas population. in 2014 9,967 people died from drunk driving according to the madd web site (madd is mothers against drunk driving)
http://www.madd.org/drunk-driving/about/drunk-driving-statistics.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/
>>77439835
Ask why he thinks violence is so much greater in the US.
>>77439835
>most of the gun deaths occur in gun-free zones
>>77440715
He said gun violence and murders in general. The link between gun policy and homicide is incredibly dubious once you start comparing territories in non-cherrypicked datasets.
see the charts in
>>77440406
and
>>77440075
>>77440864
Anon 'the lefties obliterator' desu
>>77440913
>New Zealand has a higher per capita gun ownership than USA
You don't. US is #1 (112.6 guns per 100 people), NZ is #22 (22.6/100). We're #12.
>>77440566
Guns are made to kill. Cars are made to transport. How hard is that to understand you fucking kike.
>>77441270
Most gun deaths are suicides which don't typically occur in gun free zones with most of the homicides being related to either drug gangs or disputes with drug dealers which also don't typically occur in gun free zones.
>>77439835
Mostly niggers who gives a fuck
>>77441019
>>77441434
My bad.
But there is no correlation between high firearm ownership and gun deaths when dealing with whites.
The problem is and always has been, armed niggers.
>>77439835
CAN'T STAND THE HEAT? GET OUT OF MY KITCHEN
>>77441451
Should an object be restricted by law according to the intent of the designer, if so, why? Who has more control over an object, the designer or the user?
Break down the statistics
>homicide
>suicide
>intentional shooting
>accidental deaths
The narrative falls apart when the stats are brought in.
>>77439835
>murdered
kek
Just tell them they're putting lives at risk by not supporting an ethnic cleanse. :^)
>>77439835
>countries with 1% of Americas population have 1% of Americas gun homicides
WOOOOOOOWWWWWW
>>77441685
God bless America.
>>77439835
when they get rid of the assault nigger I'll give up my guns
The results of just one guy successfully implementing gun control.
Finland = 85,000 to 95,000 dead
Australia = 40,400 dead
United Kingdom = 450,900 dead
Germany = 6,900,000 to 7,400,000 dead
Canada = 43,600 dead
United States = 419,400 dead
>>77439835
Simple
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9CWlWHe7xU
>>77439835
freedom aint free son
>>77439835
How can a gun murder someone?
>>77442036
I know, it doesn't even have standing to be named as a defendant in court.
>>77441576
damn straight NZ bro
>>77442036
>How can a gun murder someone?
The infamous Taurus 24/7 apparently uses AI to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw
>>77439835
Not with violent crime stats. Anyone who knows anything will make you look retarded. Try pointing out that the USA also has a much larger knife homicide rate than those countriws despite guns being freely available. Explain that it's a culture of violence that's the issue, not the tools used to do violence.
>>77439835
My favorite part of these is that it seems to completely exonerate anyone on the receiving end of the barrel. It's understandable when it's unjustified homicide, but with the rest you would think they just want you to allow yourself to be savaged.
Well look at the ratio's of those countries. Australia has like 20 million people.
>>77442367
>shake gun pointed towards someone
>film it
>get off free at manslaughter trial
It's all because of fucking niggers.
>>77441944
>>77441451
Show me how you can defend your house from a rapist using a car, you fucking shitskin
>>77442563
my favorite part is how say, stralya has 8% of the popuklation america does and no borders with anywhere tearing itself to death in civil war.
>>77439835
Why don't you break down gun violence by race my friend :^)
>>77440581
When arguing about gun control someone brought up the fact that there are more poor niggers,
Do you have any graphes to show what you say?
>>77443299
Australia was crushed in 1932 and their machine guns proved to be useless against the master race.
>>77439835
>>77443592
80% of homicides are gang related. - Then ban gangs.
>Comparing a nation that has 40+million dindus to small homogeneous European nations.
Gee why is the murder rate so high?
>>77443544
Its true.
We claim that the interior of Australia is just a giant desert. In reality it is a vast tropical paradise like the Amazon Rainforest. We had to give up that territory in the Treaty of Emu Creek in 1932 after we lost the great war.
Now it is easier to convince everyone the interior of the country is a desert. This is so people don't get the idea to fight the Emu menace again, lest we get chased back into the sea.
>>77441944
>hitler
>gun control
Didn't he encourage untanned germans to keep and maintain rifles?
Regardless, never give up your firearms m8
>>77443753
Kek @ Leaky Johnson
>>77439835
160,000 U.S annual tobacco related deaths. 2 million or so worldwide. Why don't you pick up a more justified cause?
>>77443809
>Didn't he encourage untanned germans to keep and maintain rifles?
Yes. Just like Obama want to arm our police.
>>77443753
they just ban mass shootings desu senpai, not sure what the big deal is.
>>77439835
With this.
Gun Death Homicides per capita have been on a steady decline since 1990s.
>>77440107
holy shit
Yeah the number of "gun related deaths" in america gets really scary when you fucking include suicides, you disingenuous lying pieces of shit.
>>77439835
>>77439835
please give me link to statistics
>>77444506
Most suicides do not use guns and the United States ranks #50.
>>77444871
I mean I keep seeing statistics that are obviously inflated by suicide numbers.
>Look how many "murders" have been caused by guns!
>Even if a chunk of these "murders" have been suicides!
>>77439835
We have a bigger population. When you adjust, its not nearly that big a lead.
Africans make up 12% of the United States population. Africans make up less than 3% of population in Australia and the UK. I have nothing against Africans, I am not a bigot, but there is an undeniable crime problem in their community. Americans have the right to defend themselves, I imagine that one great thing preventing home invasions in the USA is the chance that the home owner could have a firearm and would use it.
>>77444871
Suicide doesn't even correlate with gun policy among the OECD countries.
>>77445198
During the 60's they fashioned gun regulations specifically to take guns away from black people.
What that did was only leave the black criminals with guns.
>>77439835
If tens of millions of people use a tool with out committing a crime with it, and a handful
of people use it for evil, maybe banning the tool isn't where we should look for solutions.
>>77439835
You can be free and unsafe or not free and unsafe.
>>77444950
Factoring for population the rates would be
>1,000 in Finland
>472 in Australia
>234 in England and Wales
>418 in Spain
>767 in Germany
>1,798 in Canada
versus 9,484 in the US.
Which means the US rate is still more than 4X higher than the next country on that list and 40X higher than the country with the lowest rate on that list.
It is still bad.
>>77444871
If you take out suicides and black/gang related gun violence, gun violence is basically non-existent in the US. Basically unless you're going to kill yourself or you're associated with criminals, you're basically more likely to die drowning in your bathtub then getting randomly shot.
>>77444933
you are talking about the "gun deaths" stats. They dont factor in how someone died from a firearm, ie, shot by someone else or self-inflicted. They just care if the person died as a result of a firearm. They even include accidental discharges by children if there was a fatality.
>>77445510
I don't get fucking people like you. If you separate it by race, the US is equivalent to basically all the wonderful white countries you cite if you select only white gun violence. Gun violence is disproportionately by an extreme purpotrated by minorities.
>>77439835
Also, provide a counter argument....
if it is determined that Facebook or Twitter was used by someone to radicalize this killer, shaping his motives and hatred, and actually influencing him to kill, should we ban everyone from using Facebook and Twitter, or just look for individuals using it for the evil purposes?
>>77439835
>thats like, 6 weekends in chicago
>>77440285
>based white Argentina
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>>77439835
Finland has no niggers.
>>77440036
Niggers with stolen guns.
>>77439835
>Arguing for guns, and your opponent shows you this. How do you counter it?
the same way we did fucking years ago when it was made
GET NEW MATERIAL FAGGOTS
>>77439835
>>77439952
the topic is murder, not gun death. id say 50 percent of that total is niggers. 40ish percent of that total is white people. take negros out of the equation and most US cities would be quite peaceful. fix the nuffin problem and america would be great again...
>>77445570
Or if you live in chicago
>>77445848
lol
>suicide is counted as murder
>>77445510
Each country listed is a Majority white country with smaller populations and the average person is wealthier than the USA (if you ignore the super rich distorting USA average wealth). Where do most shootings take place in the USA? it is in Cities where the white population is reduced. I am not saying that Whites are superior, I am just saying that where there is poverty and population density there is crime, and more often than not non-whites fit those conditions.
>>77439835
>350,000,000 people in america
>9,684 people were murdered with firearms
so 1 in every 36,142 people
wow that's awful
that's almost 1.5x your chance of being hit by a car while crossing the street (1/54,538)
funnily enough, your odds of being hit by a car drop pretty significantly if you don't walk across the street
just like your odds of being shot to death drop pretty significantly if you don't live in a nigger-infested zone
>>77439835
Tell that cuck that America is a huge fucking country and has some cities that have larger populations than entire European countries, subtract the number of niggers killing niggers and you have roughly 2000 deaths in a country of 300 million people in a year.
Cars kill more people than guns, but nobody's trying to ban cars.
>>77446084
They also used to count Hispanics as white when calculating crime rates to make whites look far far worse. But they got their asses burned so many times they don't try that anymore.
That is why firearms form 4473 has that weird 10a question now.
>>77446021
chicago violence is special. that whole city is one big giant chimp out. even wild shit happens in north side neighborhoods. uptown, edgewater, rogers park all have random brown people crime in mostly white neighborhoods.
>>77446715
That is everyone's fault except those innocent black people's. - Bullshit...
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/16/us/rahm-emanuel-police-comments/index.html
>>77443216
like the fucking kool-aid man
>>77439835
I would ask how many of them were criminals and how many robberies etc. it prevented, then enjoy their chimpout with clear declaration that 'my property > criminal's health'.
>>77447052
if you think about it, its entirely possible that black lives matters is actually contributing to a higher crime rate. if cops are afraid of viral backlash from just doing routine shit, crooks are going to have a field day. and they are. yeah, fuck that....
>>77439835
At least they didn't include suicides in this one.
>>77447638
If anyone is really interested.
http://www.gunfacts.info/
Has a shit load of statics and all that. Their 123 page PDF 'book' tears up a lot of gun-grabber bullshit.
>>77439835
I laugh at them for posting decade old stats.
At least this one doesn't include west germany.
>>77446002
>Spain
>Has some freedom
top kek
>>77439835
remove niggers and spics from them stats
is comparable to a european country
>>77439835
I'd talk about how large your population is and then compare knife crime, which is higher in the UK. I'd also then ask why if the number of guns in the US has increased substantially has the number of gun deaths fallen?
