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Why is pepper spray illegal in the UK?
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What the fuck is wrong with this country. If someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself then you can go to jail.

I've also read that carrying pepper spray is classed as carrying a firearm..the equivalent of going outside waving around a fucking ak-47 or other firearm. What kind of bullshit is this?

How can I kill 50 people with pepper spray? It's a spray for defensive purposes and one I would definitely give to my wife and kids to carry outside.

The "legal" option is a spray that shoots gel which only stains the attacker/rapist which makes him easily identifiable...how do I go about changing this shit? I've even thought about making my own pepper spray and carrying that but I don't fancy going to jail for 7 years for carrying it.

Keep in mind that criminals who carry knives around get lesser sentences. It's like the government and criminals have got together and decided that theyll fuck of joe public so they can both stay in business. Even though the police will turn up 15 mins after you're dead.
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Lol, I can use my AK for home defense.
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>>77439503
This is a deadly weapon in the UK
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>>77439611
>>77439620
I am honestly pissed of with this country. I'm even more pissed off with the cucked liberals who spout "if we make it legal then all the criminals will have them" not knowing that they're fucking criminals and will have them regardless.

Fuck it I'm moving to Ireland at least you can own a gun there.
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They're super-easy to grow.

protip: don't touch your dick or your balls later, or else it might seem like it's funny.

double protip: if you touch your eye you're a gonner
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>>77439503
Can't you just convert to Islam and then get away with literally anything because muh culture? Sory your country is so cucked
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>>77439865
At least you're not an idiot like your countrymen

Get out of that shit hole before the Muslim horses instate sharia
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>>77439977
and by the way if you're the kind of guy who uses contact lenses, just forget it. Your time is better spend jacking off to furry porn on 4chans.
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>>77439977
Easy to grow but if I'm going down for a firearms offence I might as well carry a deagle. Seeing as both are classed as the same thing.
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>>77440096
I don't want to leave as I've grown up here but sometimes I look at the stuff here and think what the fuck happened. Did I not notice any of this until now? and how?
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>>77440096
>1 post by this ID

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage
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>>77440456
>1 post by this ID

Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage
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Nanny state lad, nanny state. Here girls carry mace/pepper spray on their keychains if they're paranoid.
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>>77439503
>It's like the government and criminals have got together and decided that theyll fuck of joe public so they can both stay in business.

It's not 'like' they did this. They actually did this. Welcome to reality. You might be a libertarian soon.
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>>77439865
>Fuck it I'm moving to Ireland at least you can own a gun there.
i think its hard as hell to get one there too
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>>77440771
Does it still take weeks to get pepper spray in Germany?

I keked a lot when it was reported that you couldn't get it due to demand exceeding supply.
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>>77440771
A change is needed but I fear we're already too far gone to actually have this change.

>>77440823
Is it ? I remember hearing that in Ireland they're allowed a lot more than the UK.
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>>77440981
In all seriousness, from what I've heard it's not that much trouble to get a gun in the UK.

The trouble is what happens if you use it. Kind of like how I'm reluctant to use mine because I'll be paddling up shit creek with a backward shovel if I ever have to.

But if you need to defend yourself, there are plenty of ways to do that. Last time I had to review an active shooter video they said to throw chairs at the guy, and that seems like something even futbol hooligans can do if they're not so drunk they can't get it right.
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>>77440874
Not sure, I think it's back in stock mostly. I've heard that all the ammo gets bought up tho.

>>77440981
Yea, that's probably the case. We will turn into south Africa eventually.
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>>77439503

Britain, just like any country with monarchy/aristocracy, has always been and will be fucked. That's why we ditched you cunts. Come to America and enjoy freedom as a citizen instead of being a subject to a fucking crown like a faggot.

Come to America. Your accent will get you a decent job and lots of pussy.
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>>77441211
It's not even about use here. If the police ever decide to raid my house for some reason and find it then I'm fucked for possession. My country is fucked beyond belief where if you're not a criminal or an official then it's open season on you.
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>>77439503
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>>77440981
i just looked and you can get them easily it sounds but you have to have a reason other than self defence like joining a shooting club
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>>77441380
How long does it take to get a visa? I'm skeptical to go to the US because of all the shit you're currently going through right now. I can just about deal with the niggers here, I can't imagine having to deal with the american ones.
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>>77441510
Technically, the laws here could see me raided and never heard from again just on the suspicion of what I might have accidently typed in to the interweb.

But if they really want to push it, it'll be open season on somebody else whether I'm a part of that or already dead.
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>>77441537
The rapist is too white.
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>>77441537
This is what I mean. Rapists get out in a fucking year in most cases and other criminals aren't even serving much time.

No matter what I do I won't be able to uncuck this nation with proper self defence laws as this generation is full of cucks and liberals. The defense argument is that it could blind the attacker/rapist...They're worrying about the wellbeing of their fucking attacker/rapist!!!

Also how can pepper spray do serious harm? It cant blind someone at most for a few mins but thats it.
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>>77441537
This isn't real. Is it?
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>>77441380
Monarchies are top tier governments. Letting people vote is what retards do.
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>>77439503
Because insinuating that you need more spices is insulting to indian-britarians.
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>>77441634
duuude don't trust the jew media. Our visa system is all kinds of fucked up, but you could fit all of the UK several times over in just one state.

You want to live somewhere you'll never see a dark-skinned person and can walk around with guns? Take your pick. We have many of those.

I don't mind living in a somewhat more compromised area.
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>>77441537
this shit better be fake
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>>77441620
Yeah but you can't own a handgun or assault rifle. You also have to have random and frequent checks by the police to show that all ammunition is there and none has been removed as well as that it's secure in a vault ffs.

Am I gonna tell the burglar to wait 5 mins while I open all this shit to get my gun? this is bullshit.
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>>77441698
Aren't you allowed to own guns though and don't all US citizens have the right to open carry??
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>>77441914
I can see why it would be a good place to move desu. What states would these be?

I wouldn't mind moving to somewhere like canada either desu. Big enough for me not to have to deal with any of this shit either.
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>>77442099
The specific laws depend on state and locality, and, generally speaking whether you want to open carry or not really comes down to cultural differences.

I personally can open carry all day long if I want to, but my personal decision is that I don't want to.
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>>77441858
Well american police killed a few people with pepper spray. But they usually had some health issues before. Anyway it's much safer than fists or batons, look how they tranquillized this animal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YmTdMW9uSQ
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>>77441634
Come here illegally, brother.
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>>77441985
Guess how it started? I actually don't know, but I'd imagine if began with banning bullets way back when, then moved to banning rifles, then pistols, then knifes, then bicycle wheels.
But it's okay the elite in UK can carry no problem.
Ha faggots faggot fagity fag fag fag fuck fag nigger hahahaha stupid faggots.
USAUSAUSAUSA, it's called Freedom, what your gov is called is tyranny, something our Father fought against from faggots like your people (not you doe you seem like you'd be a great American except we are full, fuck off)
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Use oven cleaner instead of pepper spray then. It's much more painful than pepper spray and will permanently blind your attacker.
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>>77441884
>>77441959
It honestly sounds like something they'd say seeing as all the immigrants coming here don't have pepper spray or cs spray laws. I've also heard of people going to france and buying some and coming back.
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>>77442257
I'd say most Americans don't even know what things are like in different states. I haven't been to all of them myself, let along long enough to decide which one is the best to live in.

So what you do is look it up ahead of time and then come visit your best choices and see what you think. Same thing you'd have to do if you thought you wanted to move anywhere else in the world.
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>>77442274
I guess open carrying would be stupid as it'd draw too much attention but then who's gonna mug/shoot the guy walking around with an ar-15?

>>77442309
I'm pretty sure for the most part that it isn't deadly. Also fuck these people if they're trying to rape a loved one or attack me. They get whats coming to them.
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>>77442392
oy vey
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>>77442609
>who's gonna mug/shoot the guy walking around with an ar-15?
Probably the sandy vaginas and the cops, and normal people will look the other way because you were being the equivalent of the 14 year old boy who just got his first car and riced it out.

But there are places where that's acceptable public behavior.
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Don't worry lad, the CCTV camera will save your ass.
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>>77442377
I wish but if your country is anything like mine then I'd be immediately kicked out and instead some rapefugee will take my place.

>>77442382
They banned guns after this incident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacre

I think they did. They completely banned all guns from that point I think. I used to think this country was great and that we could rely on the government for safety. Now I think that they don't want to keep us safe but they want to keep us under control.

Also looking back at that shooting. Anyone reckon false flag to get guns banned in the UK?

>>77442392
The UK bans anything which can spray noxious or poisonous gas and is classified as a firearm aka gun/rifle
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>>77441884
Unfortunately it's not. Fuck this country. If Trump wins I will fucking consider moving to the US
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>>77442922
>1996
>Literally the same year as the port arthur meme
False Flag guaranteed.
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>>77439503
Welfare and feelings of minority are more important than your property or health you white privileged shitlord.
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>>77442922
>The UK bans anything which can spray noxious or poisonous gas and is classified as a firearm aka gun/rifle
How do you do heavy duty cleaning, then? The gunk in an oven is bonded to the metal. Soap and water isn't going to take it off.
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>>77442478
I always liked the thought of Texas desu. It may have a high population of mexicans but if they're anything like the spanish then it shouldn't be an issue.

>>77442754
But then I'm assuming carrying a holstered pistol wont cause to much of a fuss?

All in all the main thing is, can I use pepper spray/weapon in self defence when being attacked and not go to prison for 10 years for harming my attacker?
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>>77443169
Shush. Let's not have them ban our effective cleaning agents.
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>>77439503
this is all part of "the harrowing". im not going to explain but dont get to worried yet the ones who thought it up have made to many problems for themselves and are not gaining ground in other countries
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Just buy pepper spray. While it is a firearm and whatever, I'd rather feel safe night after night with a potential of a fine, than feel unsafe and probably get fined if I attack my attacker anyway.

Yes it's actually illegal to defend yourself in this country. Not even kidding, you can go to jail for kicking the shit out of someone robbing you.
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>>77439865
>>77439620
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>>77443245
Texas is super fucking hot and humid, and that's just the weather. I've never met a Texan I didn't like, but that's definitely a thing where you'd want to visit, even just to determine the right neighborhood.

A holstered pistol is a better choice. Sandy vaginas will grind at any opportunity, but if everybody else sees that you know what you're doing then they won't get upset. Key point is to know what you're doing.
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>>77443045
The whole report seems sketchy and the emphasis on the "four legally owned handguns" is also a throw off.

>>77443169
I think they meant in terms of being used for defence purposes.
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>>77443505
You think that's bad? A diagnosed actual retard (IQ of like 70 or something) managed to get a better kill to injury ratio than any SWAT or retired SF guy they could put through a scenario like the cafe.

As well, he had access to thermal vision or fucking something, because he was able to pick out the locations of police snipers and police officers in the dead of night.
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>>77443337
>fine

You do realise it's classed as a firearm right. That means you're going down for 4 years at the least, if not 7.
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>>77441537

France's carrying law are exactly the same as what you've described for the UK. This ad must be fake, it would be to retarded for it to be real.

I personally would encourage you to carry a small bottle of pepper gel anyway. You might be able to convince any police that catch you with it if you pretend you are Jewish and victim of antisemitism in your neighbourhood.
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>>77443337
this

i carry a baton and pepper spray with me at all times
who cares about a fine when your cute butthole remains unraped by muslims?
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>>77439611
you mean an AR15
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>>77443470
I think I'd enjoy texas if not for the atmosphere desu but apart from that, I can't think of any other places.

I wanted to go to sweden before all this bullshit as it was actually a nice place I've heard.

>>77443623
Either that's american training or something fishy,
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>>77443858
IMO it was a false flag done by a special forces soldier, probably SASR.
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>>77439503

A can of engine degrease will drop anyone faster than a can of pepper spray. even disinfectant will work, it's mostly alcohol and burns like satans nutsack if you get any in your eyes.
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>>77443749
Yeah but you wont get thrown into jail whereas we will in the UK.

There is no possibility for just a fine. They take a "firearms offence" very seriously and will have to go to court. And if you're not a criminal then the court won't look to favourably on you nd will send you down.
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>>77443858
I'm more of a cold person myself. Plenty of cold states that like their guns just as much as Texas does, but with less swagger.

>>77443939
Now you're thinking like a white person. Not that I would ever condone any such thing.
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Also raises the question

Is protecting yourself a right or a privilege ?
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>>77443623
dude that's what I was saying, he set a k/d record
well.. unless you count 9/11
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>>77439611
>using an radical murder assault rifle with un-pinned 30 round clips for home defense

What a retard
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>>77444120

It's obviously a right
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>>77443939
I guess if you keep it in your car then you'd have a reason for carrying it but still. If you use anything in this country as a weapon for self defence they can fuck you.
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>>77439503
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Never leave the house without it. Have a lot of confidence walking around alone at night. Hope I never have to use it. But I am prepared to spray the moment a darkie even thinks about making eye contact after dark.
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>>77443858
Come to North Carolina
We are better than texas as too much heat causes insanity ask Australia.
To avoid dindus move to the mountain areas less gibs less nigs. We have southern culture and are nigs don't chimp out
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>>77444120
well here in burger-stan if you're a felon you're not allowed to wear body armor anymore, I guess so cops can kill you faster if you fuck up
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>>77444120
>Is protecting yourself a right or a privilege ?
Very important question, and something to know before you arm yourself.

In my particular locality, the laws were somewhat recently changed back to where you can protect yourself. That's how I understood state law in the first place, so, basically it was just a matter of saying no to the literally gun grabbing Jews.
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it could hurt someone
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had a hard time deciding on home defense options after the apex gang savages doing home invasions (beatings and rapes) recently.
apparently pepper spray and tasers are illegal and banned even for home defense here...
what is the alternative?, i cant find any info on official australian gov websites...
this is really confusing.. surely you arent just supposed to lie down and die.
this seems like a human rights violation.
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>>77444035
After Brexit you must push for a reinstatement of Magna Carta and negative rights.
You guys need some latter day Mel Gibson to Braveheart up the story of the Glorious Revolution, in which the last Catholic king orders the army to massacre his people, the army looks out over masses of arms-bearing marksmen who have been practicing from childhood, and decides they did not hear the order.
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>>77441537
WEWM8
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>>77444263
Bin That Spray!
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>>77444402
It did just go past it's expiration date...
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>>77441537
No way this is real.
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>>77441229
hey german guy

I'm curious about firearm possession and whatnot in germany, is it like most of europe or is it different considering that germany has firearm manufacturers.
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>>77444362
>this seems like a human rights violation
Indeed. Defending yourself from rape and murder violates the rights of the rapists and murderers who are probably People of Color and thus not responsible for their bad behavior.
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>>77444561
lel
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>>77444184
That's a magazine not a clip
>what a retard

also this is my home defense weapon
it's considered the same category as a sawed off shotgun in CA

So if I ever use it I'll make it look like I fought it out of his hands and used it
"The bad man broke into my house with the illegal gun! I would never break the law"
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>>77444275
>north carolina better than texas

nigga plz
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>>77444074
I'd adapt better to a colder state and the move would be easier for me. I'll have to experience a few states I guess.

>>77444275
Do your girls have that adorable southern accent? I don't know why I like that accent but it just seems innocent I guess compared to the slags over here.
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If someone breaks into your house, you should have the legal (and already do possess) the providencial imperative to drag out your saiga 12 and sing the song of your people into the four swarthy chaps intruding on your efukt marathon.
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>>77444074

Of course not. I would never use garage solvents on the thug that broke into my house to steal my shit and bash me or rape the wife and kids.
And id definitely never beat them to death and stuff them down a storm drain either.
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>>77444742
Yes they do and it is adorable when you find one
They call themselves southern bells or what not close to the mountains the thicker it gets.
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>>77444362

This is always in the fine print when you disarm the population.
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>>77444298
That's actually a good idea.

>>77444307
That's one of the things I respect about the US. I also like how you all haven't become liberal and cucked like all the other western countries.
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>>77444850
Mountain accents best accents. That shit makes me diamonds.

>tfw when georgia girl marries into the family
>but I don't get it why do you talk like us
>because northerners look down on me
;_;
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>>77440311
>move to US
>send an anti-gun to UK

I'll take that trade
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>>77444402

It's really a can of spray on anal lube in case he has to legally assist Faruq or Abdul in the enrichment of an underage schoolgirl.
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If you're scared about being arrested for using a weapon it's better than being dead for not having one. As long as you don't look and act like a degenerate the police aren't going to search you. I've never been searched by police in my life even when I was younger and now that I'm almost 30 it's going to be even less likely to ever happen. I'm respectful to police and appreciate the job they do. When police search people it's always the kind of people the should be search. I've seen police do searches of people they pull over into gas stations and you can just tell they they deserve it. It's not like they're going to turn granny's car inside out looking for drugs.
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>>77444379
That'd only work and have about a 1% chance of success if we can spin it so that the shitheads know of the real threat they face from all this shit.
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>>77444630
Your bait-dar needs recalibration
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>>77444884
well you can expect that all to change if shillary beats the don

she'll be a cross between merkel and guy weed
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>>77445070
you realize if you admit to trolling you lose
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>>77444850
Are they really conservative in the sense where they'd only date americans or does a bong have a chance, generally speaking?
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>>77445031
Made me Kek hard

>>77445017
But then the liberals will lose one of their shills. We can't have that.
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>>77445033
I'm not too worried about getting caught but rather what happens after I use it and someone calls the police?

Not only am I in possession of a firearm but I've also used it. Then I'm looking at 12 years or something.
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>>77445106
At least she's not merkel.

Is it worse to fuck things up intentionally or fuck them up while thinking you're doing well ?
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>>77444362
its weird that the australian and british government doesn't realize that the average person WILL fatally stab an intruder in their homes if they get the chance, no one with half a brain is risking their lives or their familys to obey the law.
is pepper spray not a safer option all round?
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>>77445444
Maybe only use your firearm when you have a good reason to not care what else might happen to you.

Just a thought.
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>>77445234
As long as you're white you will not have trouble
They will love your accent trust me this one time a guy from wales started talking at church camo and all the girls had to be held back from committing adultery.
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>>77445444
Then they call the police? How about you have a weapon and decide if you want to use it or not when you're attacked? You will surely decide to use it and if you don't have one will wish you had one.
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>>77445106
At least DUDE WEED means well. Hillary is genuinely evil. Like she knows that what she does will result in thousands of deaths, but she doesn't care because it gets her power and money. If Trump fucks up then it would be out of ignorance or stupidity, he would never deliberately make a decision that would result in death and suffering en masse just for power or money.
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>>77445578
>ELIMINATED
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>>77445566
That's why I'm saying my country is fucked. Because it's illegal I'm 100% in the wrong and I'm now the criminal.

>>77445619
The police would take the attackers side 100% because someone trying to protect themselves is worse than a criminal. The logic used here isn't like that used in america.
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>>77445578
Lel a Welsh accent and it worked. Fair play. I thought British accents were overdone by now though.
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>>77445770
Sounds like a good idea to practice situational awareness and other methods of not having to need a gun.

I'd leg it out of there before deciding it were time to open fire.
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>>77446000
That's all good but when you're with your family/girl?

You can't leave them when a bunch of dindus come at you.
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>>77445885
Nah it is sooo different!!!!
*fucks a literal frog*
They crave diversity as long as it is not a black
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>>77444263
Was expecting OP to ask where I got it from. Oh well, tab needs to be closed.
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>>77445770
>The police would take the attackers side 100% because someone trying to protect themselves is worse than a criminal. The logic used here isn't like that used in america.
Then just carry a weapon and convince yourself you won't use it. Have you ever been attacked before and helpless? You'll do anything to get yourself out of that situation even if it means going to jail.
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>>77446153
If they don't know what to do and I'm in charge of keeping them safe, then I grab a gun and charge.

Whether or not I pull the trigger depends on the situation. But I'm not keen to have more people die on my watch,
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>>77439503
I had no idea you weren't allowed to have non lethal weapons like pepper spray I thought it was just no guns
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>>77446160
You can't buy them in the UK? or are you trying to sting me?
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>>77445234
I think you underestimate how much women here love any kind of British accent.
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>>77445525
>while thinking you're doing well
in this instance good is actually the right word
doing good (ie justice or morality)

but to answer the question I don't think it makes a difference
being right isnt a bullet proof vest/the road to hell was paved with good intentions

humanity is going out quick and I've accepted that
but merkel, guy weed, and shillary the cigar afficionado are not the way I wanted it to go down hahaha
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>>77446178
I need something that I can blag is not a self defence weapon and actually have a reason to own. The suggestions for car grease and stuff were good.

>>77446353
In that situation you're more focused on protecting your family.
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>>77446670
>In that situation you're more focused on protecting your family.
Close. In that situation I wouldn't have any problem with dying if it meant protecting any innocent life.

For me, that's more or less the definition of what it would take to get me to take somebody else's life.
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>>77445687
>At least DUDE WEED means well
like when the province he doesnt like burns to the ground?

and yeah trump doesn't need money
warren buffet said "Marrying for money is always a bad idea, but you're crazy to do it if you're already rich
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>>77446581
I'll have to go and see for myself with an american girl who isn't a coalburner. Wonder how hard that'd be the find.

>>77446613
Yeah my mistake. It's 8am and I've been awake sll day yesterday. Trying to sort my sleeping habit out by staying awake a full day.

Well we'll see who wins. I have some faith we might even leave the EU.

>>77446852
Some pretty noble views. I wonder how many non-whites would think like that.
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>>77447043
If they have a southern accent it will not be hard to find one that is nit a coal burner
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Fuuuuuck. It's like Half Life!
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>>77447043
If you do not leave the eu come if you do...still come because you can not have fucking peper spray!!!
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>>77447043
Well you're probably not going to be able to think straight when you're put on the spot, even if you thought you could.

So it's important to know where you stand before you have to make a stand.
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>>77444362
Use a baseball bat.
Easier to defend in court.
>"Sir, why did you have a baseball bat in the house"
>"to play baseball"
you cant get arrested for a so called "toy"
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>>77447043
yeah man FUCK the EU
placing just after the UN for most useless organization in the world
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england is a fucking joke. no one takes them seriously.
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>>77439503
here dad, you'll need this
http://thehomegunsmith.com/
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>>77447631
DUDE
bats are illegal in some countrys
I'ma concealed carry a louisville lugger in my pants
oh wait.. das my benis
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>>77446852
liberal life is technically innocent. Don't throw your life away for anyone you don't love.
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>>77447423
I'm seriously considering it. How much money would I need to start me off over there?

>>77447462
Good point and I think I know where I stand in most scenarios.

>>77447672
If our government and people really wanted to be ruled by a european state then why didn't they let hitler win.
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>>77447811
>dat sound
Solly occifer, I din know what happen
goddamn niggers always having bashed up skulls in my driveway
I was jus tryna take the kids out to the ball game
Then I found this. Can you believe it?
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>>77439503
Carry a key ring with lots of hefty keys on it. That is no crime.
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>>77447926
Don't know exactly but it is not much unlike most places up north.
I am still not paying rent but I should be able to move out and make a living on less than $15 an hour will have a room mate so will not have to worry about rent at all.
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>>77439503
You live in a cucked country that has systematically taken away all of your rights to self defense. There's not much you can do unless you are willing to break the law, this is why you see us burgers getting so irate over liberal faggots trying to take away our gun rights. It never ends with taking guns, then it's knives, then it's pepper spray, until you are at the mercy of whichever migrant is mugging you.
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>>77442922
You've got an excuse with oven spray though, you'd bought it when you went to the shop, or had gone round a friend's house to let them borrow it and forgot you had it.
It was the first thing you had to had and you used it.
It's like other things, they're banned if you're carrying them for explicit use in self defence.
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To defend yourself you will have to become the criminal. Start working with the government but use extortion and bribery tactics. Make a lot of friends that is how you lessen your sentences or get out of them completely. Also don't become to noticeable be like George Soros.
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HeyUK bros. get a can of raid and a lighter and aim for the eyes. Best I can do to help.
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>>77439503
Vote with your feet, idiot. Move to the US.
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>>77441634
If you move to the states just don't go to a major city. Thats where most of the niggers are.

There are alot of areas that are 3/4 or higher white.
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>>77439503

take a water gun
> fill alcohol in it
> burn the fucker down

> fill acid in it
> corode the fucker down

Buy a string saw

> strange the fucker down

Buy Wasp spray

> spray the fucker down

Get a roll of coins

> take it in your fist
> increase power of hit >500%
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serious question to the bongs itt

how is a small woman supposed to defend herself in your country? Like is there any self defense item she can carry at all? What about a taser?
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>>77453189

I know that the understanding of law is quite a different from that here but if you have ti defend yourself here every proper way is justified.
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Yes she Carrys her pussy and hopes that he wears himself out on smashing that then she taps out.
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>>77442922
>Rely on the government for safety

This meme has to end, this is not and never has been a governments purpose. It is its own entity, designed to bring a country together and do whatever it can to maintain ORDER and profit. A people without the ability to fight is a people willing to pay ANYTHING for the ability to feel safe and sleep at night. We are not safe, the police have too much power and the large majority have an unquestioning loyalty to authority. Don't drink the kool aid, the working class can't have guns because we might take back what we are owed by the people who take everything from us.
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>>77443245
Texas is a decent place. Been living here a few years.

The economy is great. Alot better then most states. Cheap housing and jobs everywhere.

If you wanna avoid Mexicans stick to the north/east texas.

Looking for a more liberal area Austin.

Other cities to check out Dallas, Houston, Fort worth, San Antonio

Just keep in mind Texas is bigger then most countries in Europe, lots of different places to live and certain areas are pretty different then others.
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>>77444275
North Carolina is shit compared to Texas

If you can't deal with a lil heat you're just a bitch.
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>>77439503
Because the liberals have ruined your country.
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Give it enough time and the staining spray you mentioned will be illegal too since it damages the instigator's property.
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>>77445222

Almighty Kek approves your comment
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>>77439503

Soviet influence in the 50s-70s. The individuals right to defend themselves and their property is not necessary if the state controls all aspects of your life. The shills that passed these retarded laws and made this way of thinking the norms motivation was the formation of an ideological socialist state.

Once you lose your ability and right to defend yourself, your home and your family you are at the complete mercy of the state.
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>>77439503
>implying most countries don't have equivalents that do pretty much the same
Sweden has quite a few different defense sprays that aren't pepper spray. Does the same (and also sometimes contains color which is hard as fuck to remove for easier identification).
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>>77443355
>The peoples march
>Daily mirror
>Media literally controlling demonstrations
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>>77439503
Flashlights with strike crowns for carry

Firearms for home protection plus one airsoft replica to plant on the dead invader
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>>77440981
i think youre thinking of northern ireland, they have the good friday agreemeent which lets them have more weapons
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>>77440096

Most brits arent cucked, as elections show. But the EU, media and government make an art out of disregarding and mocking us.

We're just not prone to riots like the hysterical french.
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Wasp spray. Also carry some caffeine tablets (tape them to the bottom of the can) if the wind isn't with you.

It causes permanent damage and, unlike pepper spray, should be legal even in your nanny state.
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>>77440234
>not being a true patriot and building yourself a STEN

http://thehomegunsmith.com/
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People need to get it in their heads that they should not call the police. People assume that because they have been made a victim that the police are on their side. This is wrong. The police are on the side of the government, and the government is not your friend. If you defend yourself and call the police, you're more likely to end up in the shit than whoever attacked you.
Some cunt makes you beat them bloody? Let them call the police. "Oh yes officer I tried to mug this guy and he fucked me up". The police don't give a fuck about your circumstances, if you call them and tell them you fucked up some guy who attacked you, you're admitting to breaking the law. They don't give a fuck if it was justified, but they do know they look good if they bring you in.

Don't talk to the fucking police. They aren't on your side. Do what you've got to do, then get on with your life. It's legal to defend yourself with anything so long as you don't tell anyone.
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If it was legal everyone would have it making everyone less safe.
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Make your own out of Naga chillies and alcohol then if the cops ask what it is 'hotsauce, I like spicy food'.
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>>77456746
That isn't good reason for carrying it m8.
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>>77456553
This too, spring assisted knife and two quick stabs to the lungs kills someone cleanly and quietly (they bleed out into their lungs preventing them from calling for help).
If someone attacks you, find out who they are, remove from gene pool.
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>>77456612
>everyone
>not just criminals with intent to do harm

Okeydokey famalamarino
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>>77456813
You like to eat out when you're in the city.
Also a prosecutor will be far more likely to prosecute for a gun than for pepper spray, you usually just get pepper spray confiscated and a caution _If you're caught carrying it_ for home defence buy a crossbow and some broadheads. Dead men tell no tales and simply say they broke in, said they had a gun and that you shouldn't bother leaving your room, once you had the crossbow loaded you grabbed the first bolt to hand which happened to be one of your _novelty broadheads_ confronted him, saw him go for his pocket and fired.
They've changed home defence legislation so that you're covered if you're protecting you or your family and 'acted in the heat of the moment', one shot to the chest and he's a dead man, just remember to call an ambulance first and not the police, put pressure on the wound and try to carry out CPR, all of that should have you out on bail the next day as you tried to save him when you'd shot him.
Oh and don't shoot him in the back, instant murder charge.
Easiest thing to do though is to keep the bow on them, make them get on the ground with their hands behind their back and ziptie them, legal citizen's arrest.
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>>77444742

>>77444742

You could always come to Montana. Nice and cool here for half the year,
plus some of the most beautiful country you'll ever see. I go months at
a time without seeing a black person.

Also, for the record, I think you need to be a US citizen before you can
legally purchase a gun. Short of that, you can buy all the non and
less-lethal weapons (collapsible batons, knives, spray, stun gun, stun
baton, tazer) that you want.
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>>77439503

In the UK it is the criminal who is protected, the victim in his house is often prosecuted for interfering with the burglary, rape, whatever.

Its because there is more money for lawyers that way. There have been cases where a burglar has injured himself in a house (by cutting his hand or something) and has successfully sued the homeowner.

The solution is to de-criminalise gun ownership but no political party will do it, they just dont care about citizens.
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>>77457498
>murder
Manslaughter, not premeditated
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>>77457665
Dead men tell no tales.
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>>77457709
Not even manslaughter if you get a good barrister.
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>>77444630
For what purpose? I understand shotguns are a viable option for home defense, but fucking why that? Granted it's cool, but you seriously want to pick a fight with a 410 darenger? I just don't understand the logic behind this. Why not any decent automatic? Or any pump action, or I don't fucking know a god damn AR with tap rounds like a normal sane human being?
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>>77439503
in germany you can buy it but only use it against animals legally. stupid laws. when a dog attacks me i can defend myself but when someone try to rob me i have to call the police...
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>>77449670
I know I live in a cuck country. I'm sick of it.

>>77450069
It's come to the point where we're trying to find loopholes to justify protecting ourselves without having to face going to jail. Wtf is this country anymore.
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>>77439503
Airguns are legal in the UK without a licence... You could probably frighten a burglar.
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>>77458012
OMG that gun is black and has a sight, it's an ~~~assault weapon~~~~
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>>77442922
>Dunblane
>Scotland

Godamn, always the bloody scots. Why can't those skirt wearing haggis munchers just fuck off already.
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>>77458152
>Airguns are legal in the UK without a licence
Not in Scotland.
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>>77453129
I'll take that into account. It also sucks that all the major cities would have all the best shit to do I'm guessing?

>>77453201
No tasers are illegal too. She's allowed to carry around a spray which tags the attacker or a rape alarm. I've heard rape alarms could be outlawed because they can cause distress to rapists and hearing damage. Welcome to the land of the cucked.
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>>77458238
Or NI
Pistols are legal under licence in NI though.
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>>77458152
Legal to what extent? Theres people hunting big game with airguns
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>>77439503
What is UK government stance to stun guns or tazers
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>>77458012

Not that guy, but if you're using a heavy caliber pistol, or especially an AR, you're taking a chance on the bullets penetrating walls or even other houses andpossibly randomly eliminating family members and/or neighbors.

For home defense, get a nice pump or semi auto shotgun with bird shot rounds or salt pellets. You don't even need to be a good shot, you'll royally fuck someone up, and the pellets from bird shot/salt won't penetrate walls.

Best part, decent shotguns are dirt cheap compared to other guns.
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>>77456954
Anybody wanted to rob or rape you would spray you first. You didn't think this through. Re-evaluate your life.
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>>77458262
>It also sucks that all the major cities would have all the best shit to do I'm guessing?
it depends on what you consider a good time. obviously the nightlife is better in a city
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>>77453564
I know this mate and it's why I'm so pissed off. Why does everyone trust the government so much? why does everyone think the people in power and the richest know whats best for the rest of us?

>>77453650
If the housing is cheap then that's good as I'll have to secure a job their first before getting a visa approval I'm guessing.
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>>77458303
12ft.lbs maximum without a licence (I.e., just need to prove you're 18).

Anything I've that requires an airgun licence (albeit less restrictive than a full on gun licence, need to be using the airgun for "sport" if it's over 12ft.lbs)
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>>77458330

Section 5 firearm

Not available to general public
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>>77458330
Firearm
Not sure about cattle prods though, but try explaining why you're carrying one in the city.
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>>77458330
prohibited, criminals can never lean how to use capacitors in their favour
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>>77458238
You sure that's not just one of those "bin that knife" type things they have in black areas of London?

As in, it's not illegal, but they want to get rid of them?
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>>77444552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0-J2pYLCvI
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>>77454011
Aye but this country is too divided.

>>77455649
Good idea but we can get charged for manslaughter by killing someone even if we have evidence they were seconds away from killing us.
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>>77458303
There also no restrictions in England and Wales on imitation, so Airguns can look pretty realistic.
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>>77458353
Nah mate. They'd just garrote, stab or beat you with a blunt weapon as they already do tbqh famalamadingdong.
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>>77458353
Jesus fecking christ ROI wise up. I can already get a pistol for £200 no questions asked from AFOAF, criminals don't give a fuck about the law so a pistol would be more likely than pepper spray.

If they're so afraid of pepper spray being weaponised make each can unique like that smartwater shit and when you buy a can you need to register with photo ID, problem solved.
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>>77456159
How does that work? If I move to NI, can I own a gun?

>>77456408
I've heard of wasp spray alot now.
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>>77458479
Yes I'm sure.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2015/10/contents

Just look at the damage they can cause.
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>>77458479
If I saw one of those I'd fill it with dildoes. Come to think of it, a dildo is probably an offensive weapon here.
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>>77458353
You're right, that legislation stops criminals getting peppers.
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>>77458637
It's purely a social engineering issue, programming the average munchkin to not rely upon themselves for self-defence increases their reliance on the state and also makes them an easier victim of the state.
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>>77446670
>I need something that I can blag is not a self defence weapon and actually have a reason to own.
maglite is the classic skinhead explainable weapon.
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You can carry a non-locking, folding knife with a blade less than 3" long without a reason in the UK. This is your best bet for a weapon. However if you actually stab someone with it be prepared for a hard time defending yourself in court.

Learning a good martial art is our only legal self defence option. Learn to box, judo, muay thai, decent jujitsu gym... That's your best course of action to stay above the law.

Obviously defending yourself against an armed attacker is still a problem, but your survivability is higher than a normal person.
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>>77458681
Just imagine all of the minor injuries caused if someone went in a rampage!

Ban assault air rifles!
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>>77458664

You can own a handgun in NI and carry it, but you need to have a really fucking good reason.
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>>77458813
There are no restrictions on airgun or airgun carry, either. I'm sure that would frighten a mugger or whatever.
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>>77458628
Anybody who wanted to rob a corner shop would spray Sanjay in the face hop the counter and take the money in less than a minute. You'd get youths spraying teachers, blud you don't want to go there.
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>>77458932

Main issue is still the offensive weapons laws.

Anything can and will be classed as assault with an offensive/deadly weapon if the police feel like it. Yes, this includes me gouging your eyes out with a spoon.
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>>77458681
Oh no, the pellet is fully intact and he's bleeding slightly, he might need tweezers, holy fuck!
Meanwhile arrows with broadheads go straight through people as well as kevlar vests.
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>>77445770
Sadly half of the country does infact think exactly like that. Some people would gladly give up yours and their right to defend themselves to feel morally superior. And a certain chosen people will gladly take those rights away for a fee of course you racists.
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>>77458972

>society would collapse without laws in place to stop it!

Listen to yourself you statist cuck. If we need laws to stop us from devolving into violent mongrels then our sick society is at fault, not weapons.
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>>77458972
At the moment they shank teachers and beat shopkeepers to a pulp. I really don't see it as an escalation imho famadoodledoo
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>>77458903
Does shooting protestants count?
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>>77458432
>>77458439
>>77458472

Well that's fucked up.
Don't want to know what would happen if the police found you with a bunch of shurikens, knives or telescope bat
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>>77439503
if you give up your guns the pepper spray is next. do you think the government gives a fuck about people getting shot and wants to keep you safe? fuck no they want you helpless and cucked. that's what gun control is for 100% of the time.

mass.

shootings.

are.

a.

small.

price.

to.

pay.

fuck all of you eunich niggers who don't have the foresight of a bluejay.
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>>77459014
Who here longbow?
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>>77459009
Spoons make amazing arrowheads.
Jus' sayin'.
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>>77458972
What prevents a criminal making a bottle of pepper spray now?
Is there a police officer stationed at every kitchen?
The robbery is against the law yet people still rob, how does a law against pepper spray stop people getting pepper spray?
Does a law against alcohol stop people getting alcohol?
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>>77459142
Can anglos own bench grinders?

I bet I could turn a spoon into a nice arrowhead.
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>>77439611
good luck with 762 penetration
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>>77459183
Don't be a loon. Bin that spoon.
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>>77439503
>Why is pepper spray illegal in the UK?

Cos otherwise too many women would end up committing hate crimes by using it when Muslim rape gangs come for them.
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>>77459183

It's illegal to carry a bow in a public place

>offensive weapons act
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>>77458664
>wasp spray

https://youtu.be/9Uy9MnQfk_0
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Just use a hammer.
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>>77459108
Meh I'm checking out the legality of explosive arrows.
Alu ones have hollow shafts so all you need is the primer from a blank round (legal to buy online), make some black powder and rig a firing mechanism.
Wouldn't mind making rocket assisted arrows too, string fires primer which sets off a delay which sets off a rocket motor.
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>>77459371
Make your own primers from potassium chlorate.
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>>77459141
I'm the guy with the recurve and crossbow.
>>77457958
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>>77440234
>Seeing as both are classed as the same thing.
You've got to be joking.
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>>77459328
Even a longbow for which the Englishmen are famous?

Are there weapons permitted that aren't "offensive" weapons?
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>>77456612
Stupidest fucking discussion ever.

Criminals don't care if something is illegal, they'd get their hands on it.

Would you rob someone if you thought everyone was armed? No you wouldnt.
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>>77458681
>Just look at the damage they can cause.

That's likely a UK-legal <12ft/lbs shooting one... The airrifle I shoot at my dad's place would likely penetrate your skull.
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>>77459423
Noice. what's the ft/lb on the crossbow?
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>>77439503
We call it the shitty little island for a reason bro.
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>>77459448
No, you have to prove you are using it for some other reason, like a maglite.
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>>77459435
Nope I'm not kidding. If you get caught with one then you go to court under the same offence as someone with a gun.
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>>77459493
No idea on the ft/lb but it's 160lb with a 11" power stroke.
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>>77439503
The argument they use here is that it would allow criminals to better attack and exploit people
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>>77443858
desu asa bong you wouldn't like southern culture too much. New England is better.
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>>77439503
We used to have a loophole in our weapon laws here, which made it possible to carry small cans of pepper spray as they were not legally considered weapons.
Of course our dear socialists made sure to correct that with the 2012 gun law, so that people cannot legally carry those weapons of mass destruction. Can you imagine Mohammed the poor oppressed algerian, victim of colonization, slavery and genocide being oppressed again by an evil white woman daring to reject his advances and hurt his precious eyes with that evil spray of death?
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>>77459108
Or a newspaper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_brick

>>77459467
You need a license if the airgun fires with muzzle energy greater than 1J.
As a comparison, I can fire a dart through a blowpipe with more energy.
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>>77453189
Congratulations hans, worst so far. All this bong needs to do is put a good ol fashioned aluminum baseball bat next to his bed.
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>>77459555
I don't know if you entirely understand how baffling this is to us. It's all well and good to joke about tea time a bong o'clock and doing it for the queen with a high-visibility burqa, but I think we've got dystopia on our hands here, mate.

The UK is a nuclear power with a permanent UN security council seat. What the "F" is going on?
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>>77459547

>carry rape alarm
>a wild nignog appears!
>smash his face in with it
>wedge it into his eardrum and turn it on

It was just a rape alarm, officer!
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