/pol/, explain why owning an assault machine gun like pic related is needed to defend yourself
further explain how anyone needs a 30 round clip for hunting deer
We need to leave keep machine guns out of the hands of madmen, or we'll see more scenes like the one at Orlando!
THIS IS A SLIDE ATTEMPT
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>>77425102
THEY ARE TRYING TO DIVERT OUR ATTENTION
THIS IS A SLIDE ATTEMPT
DO NOT RESPOND WITHOUT SAGE!!!!!
Will the shilling ever end?
>>77411599
>>77408057
>>77425102
THIS IS A SLIDE ATTEMPT
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>>77425198
>>77425299
>>77425397
Nice proxy, faggot
I'm here for an honest debate
>>77425102
SHALL
>>77425102
>explain why
Irrelevant. We have a right to bear arms. A *right*. It needs no justification.
>explain why
To protect themselves from, and to wipe away clean the terrorist governement, and its statist puppets like you.
>>77426655
given that all /pol/tards are kissing ass of the biggest statist in the last 100 years (Trump), I don't think that statement has merit, here
>>77425102
Explain why you need a pc to communicate with people. Just use USMail.
Further explain how anyone needs phones when you have perfectly good pigeons.
We need to keep shitposting machines out of the hands of madmen, or we'll see more scenes like the one in this thread.
>>77425102
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
ALSO
SLIDE THREAD
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>>77426747
>statist
I'm enjoying it.
>>77425102
>need
There's that word again.
>>77425102
The 2nd amendment was written to protect the ability of the citizenry to arm themselves against threats foreign and domestic. A military spec rifle is the best way of doing that. Most houses in this country shouldn't have an AR-15, they should have an M-16. That's unfortunately currently illegal, so we're stuck with semi-auto.
And before you say the citizenry doesn't need to protect itself from enemies foreign and domestic, history proves you wrong. Even recent history.
As for more mundane, day to day use, pic related.
>>77426950
what's a slide thread?
>>77427232
but 30 round clips?? come on, scaring off coyotes doesn't take more than a few rounds
>>77427127
The need for people to be able to defend themselves is inherent. What are you trying to shill?
>>77427414
One that you respond by putting sage in options first.
Shills doing their shilling, trying to move important threads away from the 1st page so you newfags won't see them and learn/contribute.
>Machine gun
He had a semi-automatic assault rifle, perfectly legal.
Normally machine guns require a very special permission or license from the military and or police.
If that faggot omar had had a full auto, everyone would have died.
Also people normally don't use 30 round clip for hunting unless they're doing a shit load of it.
Your argument fell apart the moment you started typing, faggot. shall not be fucking infringed
>>77427468
>threats foreign and domestic
Learn two read newfag.
>>77425102
You are misinformed. No one hunts with them. They are for the shooting range. 30 round clips are nice when you don't want to have to stop and reload a bunch.
>>77427977
Imagine if Omar had actually used an actual machine gun, like the M249.
>>77428222
so people have to die because you're lazy at the range?
>"We need to leave keep machine guns out of the hands of madmen"
>by limiting everyone else and non-specifically targeting
America needs to fucking fix its mental health problems for fucks sake.
>>77428296
No, there should be more of a background check done to make sure someone is mentally sound before they can purchase a gun. In Texas the process takes approximately 5 minutes... it's a little too easy if you ask me.
>>77428285
A military grade weapon like that, he would've chewed through the whole building and torn through a few cops depending on the circumstance.
all I can think of now is a muslim faggot rambo
>>77428296
people have to die and/or have their rights trampled because you're too ignorant to realize that America needs a better mental healthcare system and has no room for Islam?
People who are pro 'assault' guns don't even like guns, hell most of them don't even own them.
They jut want to be contrarian children and stick to outdated garbage 'laws'.
The fedoras of this generation.
Funny how this gun enthusiasts and freedom fighters are never around when shit goes down, they just like to parade their guns in the streets scaring people and being edgy inane cunts
>>77428296
no faggot, people have to die because they are degenerates. mass shootings didnt happen in the 1920s because people werent so disgusting
>>77428222
>>77428461
>clips
>more of a background check
>a little too easy
So nogunz and would like to ban the scary assault baby killers.
Also do you know what a mental illness is? Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder
Enjoy your government, it's there to help you.
>>77425102
Explain why people should be allowed to practice a religion that openly calls for the murder and enslavement of non believers?
If you want to keep the first amendment why do you think you should take away the second?
Protip: The second one protects the first, and the rest.
>>77428603
Maybe they're not around because shit usually happens in gun free zones.
Makes you think....
>>77425102
Assault machine gun? What is that even.
>>77428757
Nigga I'm pro-gun and buying an AR-15 tomorrow. Yell your nonsense at OP. I'm saying walking in a buying something that can do something awful is too easy in its current state. Have you ever bought a gun? Both times I have they rush you through the paperwork and it takes about 5-10 minutes.
>>77425102
The 2nd amendment does not guarantees the right to self-defense. It guarantees the right to bear arms, which naturally invokes self-defense.
>>77425102
>/pol/, explain why owning an assault machine gun like pic related is needed to defend yourself
Not a machine gun
Not automatic
>further explain how anyone needs a 30 round clip for hunting deer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnsBH9jGxc
>We need to leave keep machine guns out of the hands of madmen, or we'll see more scenes like the one at Orlando!
Agreed. Don't know how that guy passed screening.
>>77425472
>proxy
shiggydiggydoo
>>77428865
to be fair, most people before last week would think it reasonable to, as a matter of civil courtesy, have a nightclub being let out at 2am be a gun free zone.
>>77425102
Its called a gatlin gun
>>77425102
>assault machine gun
>clip
>hunting deer
>machine guns out of the hands of madmen
>n-no guys I'm serious debate me
fuck off
>>77425102
Negative rights are without criteria. I have the right like I have marrow in my bones. I have it already and there was no threshold to cross.
>>77425102
>BUTTERFLIES IN THE SKYYYY
>I CAN FLY TWICE AS HIGHHHHHH
get saged idiot
>>77429012
And what's wrong with getting a speedy service with your purchase of an object so important the right to have and carry it is in the Constitution?
Trust me, you do not want more background checks and you definitely do not want to trust a doctor to decide on your right to life - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder
>>77425102
>30
>round
>clip
sageing
>>77427468
Well the coyotes around where I live are armed to the teeth and drive 4x4s
>>77425102
>clip
>>77425102
You trying hunting gays while making phone calls without one and get back to me.
>>77429308
>>77429543
being extraordinarily pedantic for no reason..
>>77429027
that is an interesting experiment.. but could madmen, in the heat of battle, really reload a clip that quickly?
>>77429156
Do you expect civil courtesy from a criminal? Because average law abiding citizens can&will be courteous without a law forcing them and no law abiding citizen will shoot you for no reason. A criminal will, whether you're inside a gun free zone or not.
>>77429623
kinda dangerous where i live
>>77427468
>scare off
Shoot to kill nigger.
What happens when ten niggers run through your door? You'll be glad you have 30 shots then
>>77425102
>further explain how anyone needs a 30 round clip for hunting deer
You aren't allowed to have that many rounds for hunting deer. Its so you don't have to reload if 5 armed guys kick your door in at 3 AM. Or do you think the police could possibly get to your house in time to save your ass?
>machine guns
Those aren't machine guns.
Do you even know what a machine gun is?
Do you have a hard time learning words?
>>77429919
If you cannot even use the appropriate terminology when talking about the items and accessories you want to limit and eventually ban, or acknowledge the impact that doing so will have, how do you expect to have a debate with the opposing side.
>>77427232
This.
>>77428506
M E M E I T
>>77429919
Fuck off back to r-eddit you piece of shit.
Typical socialist doesn't know shit about guns
>>77430276
I don't know the technical terms of the pieces that go into a thermo-nuclear bomb. I still don't want the average joe to have it.
>>77428865
wow that fucking tears it i'm #Arson4Carson now
>>77430541
Then good thing people like you are on the front lines of the political debates, throwing your feelings about ambiguous words around, when others keep telling you the legislation you propose won't work and is flawed.
>>77428461
>In Texas the process takes approximately 5 minutes... it's a little too easy if you ask me.
Its a federal background check. Do you want them to see if someone has a criminal record on mars?
>>77428603
>Funny how this gun enthusiasts and freedom fighters are never around when shit goes down
Because they follow gun laws.
Something maniacs don't do.
Gun free zone, don't worry though, it will only take the police three hours to come to your aid.
>>77428461
>In Texas the process takes approximately 5 minutes
That's how quick the process is everywhere because of the NICS system. It's a computerized system that checks your name against several collected databases of people who potentially shouldn't have guns (a mental health database being one of them).
I agree that the mental health check isn't strict enough, though. It's only checks against people who have been involuntarily admitted to a psychiatric hospital. Where to draw the line is a debatable subject, though.
>>77430541
See, that's why you shouldn't have the right to decide anything about the rights of the people until you learn some more of those terms you don't care about.
A bomb is not a firearm, it's a munition. They're different faggot.
>>77430541
If you're ignorant of something you want to legislate, and the experts of that subject are telling you that the proposed legislation won't work or doesn't make any sense, your ignorance is probably obscuring something vital to the debate.
>>77425102
>clips
>>77430541
>average joe
>having high yield purified weapons grade nuclear materials and the means to make a working bomb out of them
That is some rich as average joe with a whole lot of friends and fancy machines, wew lad.
>>77428603
>People who are pro 'assault' guns don't even like guns, hell most of them don't even own them.
that pro 'assault' gun is the most popular rifle in America by a pretty wide margin. The pro-gun crowd probably defends them because they own them and are familiar with them.
>gun enthusiasts and freedom fighters are never around when shit goes down
They are, often. The NRA keeps track of news stories about it: https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen/
'Shit Hits The Fan' is often the subject of ridicule, but the Korean business owners during the LA Riots or the New Orleans residents protecting their homes and businesses from looters during Katrina I'm sure are glad they were armed. Having been in a SHTF situation myself (thankfully never had to use the gun) concerns of violent looters and no access to police are terrifyingly real.
>>77425102
slide thread.
>>77425102
>>77425102
fuck off hillbot
>>77425102
The second amendment was never about hunting. It was about protecting ones home from a tyrannical government. (Britian if you dont know your fucking history)
The entire argument of hunting is completely ass backwards.
If a government fears its citizens arming themselves they must have a reason to hold that fear. Disarming people has always been the endgame. Or at least tipping the scales in the favor of the all powerful federal government. They are not the ones to tell us how to live, how to breathe, how to eat, how to protect our homes and towns and cities from threats. The fact that these attacks are becoming more frequent is the calling that AMERICANS need to wake the fuck up. Radical Islam is the goddamn problem. Letting people in without vetting them is the most retarded thing and if a mistake, is literally the largest oversight in national history.
>>77425102
Because If criminals use those weapons, the police will need to use those weapons, slowly they are arming up almost like the military, and when time comes to defend ourselves against traitors we need to meet them at the same level as civilians, because SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>77425102
OP, deer are tricky. They move around and don't let you shoot them. I'm not a good shot when I drink. A few extra rounds helps out when tipsy. I prefer 40 round magazines.
>>77432215
It's kind of sad that the amount of wood on a gun does basically determine whether or not the gun is dangerous according to the media
>>77432473
can you explain what a slide thread is?
>>77425102
>assault machine gun
>>77425102
10,000+ firearm deaths are from pistols each year.
300 are from Rifles each year.
Hammers kill 700.
Lightning kills 500.
This being the case, isn't it weird that the government is primarily demonizing rifles?
>>77425102
sayge
>>77435146
Correction:
500 people are struck by lightning each year, only about 50 die.
You are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed by a rifle in the USA.
>>77435146
>>77435311
http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/10/07/fbi-report-americans-38-likely-killed-lightning-active-shooter/
I like the look of mini-14s, too bad they're so shitty
>>77425709
This. We're not fighting for the right to bear arms.
We have the right. There's nothing to discuss.
>>77435424
Thanks anon. So more people die accidentally from rifles than from active shooters.
So rather than gun control, firearm competency in our schools is the answer.
>>77435616
>firearm competency in our schools
There was a time in America that this was actually a thing
>>77428603
> peruvian trying to tell americans about what guns they REALLY like
fuck yourself with an alpaca you repulsive mestizo.
i own AR rifles, as well as a few other military rifles, and i enjoy the shit out of them.
> funny how gun enthusiasts and freedome fighters are never around when shit goes down...
shooting up a gay disco: gun free zone
shooting up a school: gun free zone
shooting up a political rally (leftist only): gun free zone
shooting up a texas art museum: Ooops...
http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/us/mohammed-drawing-contest-shooting/
these dirtbags never attack gun shows, survival retreats, gun rights rallies, redneck bars, etc etc etc because they know they will face armed resistance so they go to where the sheep are (like you)
>>77425102
>need
top fucking kek
>>77427468
You dont NEED anything besides food water and breathable air.
30 rounds aren't for deer, they are for people. The right of the people to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with hunting.
That right includes also swords, spears, crossbows, catapults and firearms. Most of these have no use for hunting
>>77428442
I personally am totally for needing a psyche eval to purchase a gun. It just makes sense.
It's not needed to defend yourself. It's needed to disincentive the government from blatantly stealing your land, like they try to do (and do) all the fucking time.
>>77436916
But psyche isn't an objective science, so it will find whatever who is paying for it wants it to find. Even an objective science would be prone to that but psyche is already a joke so it would instantly be a tool and rubber stamp for the powers that be
>>77425102
>explain how anyone needs a 30 round clip for hunting deer
Good thing the second amendment has nothing to fucking to with hunting.
It's about self-defense.
>>77425102
do you really want only the criminals and cops to have these guns? I sure as hell don't trust either group.
>>77435616
>firearm competency in our schools is the answer.
This is what I have been saying, if we get sex ed why not gun ed?
>>77427232
BASED
https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen
629 pages of examples of law abiding armed citizens stopping criminals, terrorists, and school shooters, with a gun.
>>77428461
>5 minutes
Not if you are flagged. Then you have to wait two weeks, even in Texas.
