You won't see this in the news
>>77412179
Because nobody gives a fuck
>>77412179
I don't care if 2,000 peaceful Muslims showed up. The issue is still relevant. Muslim extremists need to be eradicated from the planet. We all know the majority of Muslims are "peaceful." No one even gives a shit about this red herring anymore. The majority of Germans weren't Nazi.
>>77412179
Maybe if Muslims started thinking about ways to pull Islam from the 9th century to the 21st century then maybe their "prayers" would mean more.
>>77412179
And yet they still support the homophobic Islamic ideology which caused the shooting in the first place.
Fucking hypocrites.
Because it doesn't mean anything.
>>77387896
>>77387896
>>77387896
>>77412179
Of course they would, it's their skin that's in danger because of the shooter.
Yea no, I don't care about 200 muslims.
I see the bigger picture, and it scares me.
inb4 those retarded faggots spamming their "1 post by this id" forced meme that is killing /pol/
>Over 200 muslims came together to save face and spout some taqiyya
You got me OP I am now a #dadforjihad
>>77412179
>200
Now tell me how many muslims cheered...
>>77412179
It's literally taken from the news. It says Huff Post in the lower right corner.
>>77412179
/pol/ cant crunch the numbers and realize that the MOTHER FUCKING VAST majority of Muslims are normal, peace loving people.
It's using a minuscule fringe of people to justify hatred of an entire race. It's fucking disgusting.
>>77412179
And next they'll buy the property and build a mosque where the nightclub used to be.
This is their ages-old victory ritual, you cuck.
>>77412179
Huffington Post is part of the news though
>>77412179
>doing what they were going to do anyways with pink shirts on
oh okay
hey i'm eating cheetos as a sign of solidarity with the terror victims
>>77412857
right, see >>77412686 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
You are deluded. This really is mainstream islam.
Why is Islam still relevant in this case? The guy was just a self-loathing gay boy.. nothing else to it. He pledged allegiance to ISIS, Hezbollah and Al Qaeda before he died and this person knows anything about Islam? l m a o
Ooh ooh ohh, I've got two new ones (at least I think noone else already posted them)
>Omar "Making faggots food for maggots" Mateen
>Omar "Spray n' Pray the Gay Away" Mateen
>>77412857
Read the tweets being sent to Milo (@Nero) right now. I'm waiting.
>>77412179
Fire bombs would have been awesome!
>>77412179
You won't see this either
2015:. there were 2865 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27626 people were killed and 26149 injured
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=2015
>>77412686
The problem with that graph is that the muslims that hold these "extreme" views live in the middle-east or North Africa. The muslims in that research (who live close to Europe) don't have these extreme views. Guess why? Socialisation. If you grow up in a country/culture were these extremist views are common, of course you're more likely to adopt them as well.
Muslims that grow up in the west aren't really that big of a threat.
>>77412179
>2016
>actually believing in prayer or religion
maybe if any of you nutcases did something besides smack your hands together and talk to yourselves you'd get something done
>>77412179
the fuck, i've seen this everywhere.
Damn near all the "you won't see this in the news" is in the fucking news.
Hell, it's usually a news outlet posting it.
>>77412179
I dont see 200!
I also dont see 6 million jews ashes!
>>77412179
they pray for the gays?
why are they all facing mecca a place where gays are heavily marginalised and killed on a regular basis
>>77412179
>hundreds of muslims come together to break the stereotypes by doing their strange sandnigger monkey thing again
OK
>>77413018
>>77413065
These are simply examples of the fringe I acknowledged.
>>77413095
That's not true actually tho
>>77412179
THIS MAKES UP FOR ALL THE DEAD PEOPLE
THIS MAKES UP FOR ALL THE WELFARE AND SUBVERSION
>>77413095
>Muslims that grow up in the west aren't really that big of a threat.
Source please.
>>77412179
That's all well and good, but it doesn't fix the ideology that caused the issue
Put it another way: If a father raised 10 children and spent the whole of their entire childhood teaching them that murder was acceptable, but only 1 child actually committed any murder, would you still call him a father of peace since 90% of his children haven't murdered anyone?
>>77412179
>200 muslims pray
>still end up praying to allah
so close
>>77413183
>statistics
>examples of fringe
Are you braindamaged or you simply dont understand how statistics work?
>>77413095
This is bait. R-right?
Great, good for them, doesn't defeat the fact that millions of muslims in muslim countries think gays should be punished by death.
>>77413275
If you look at the research in the graph you linked (i.e. from the source), you will notice what I'm talking about.
>>77413187
It is.
>>77413325
No. This is basic psychology.
>>77413095
>Muslims that grow up in the west aren't really that big of a threat.
yeah, no
Remember, the kike liberals were saying "they weren't refugees" like it was a "good" thing that 2nd and 3rd generation niggers that grew up in Europe mass murdered people that could not arm themselves.
>>77413325
Look at his flag, he's either a cuck or a muslim. I think he actually believes the shit he is saying. Sad!
>>77412179
A whole 200 muslims? Wow i guess im a #hillshill now
>>77412179
It no longer matters, with this attack on Spanish fags we pretty much on kebab removal mode, I just hope some can wait a few months before they start hanging mudshits.
ES LA VOLUNTAD DE DIOS.
>>77413295
You are right. We know that Dylan Roof was a white supremacist that killed people. We can't risk having any more of his kind around. All stormroofies have to go.
daily reminder that "moderate Muslims" don't exist, there are only lapsed Muslims, terrorists, and terrorist sympathizers
>>77413054
>Omar "Spray n' Pray the Gay Away" Mateen
this was literally one of the first ones, haven't seen the maggot one before though good job
>>77413409
No, it isnt true. Actually, second and third generations of middle-eastern immigrants are more radical than the original immigrants.
http://rieas.gr/images/daniel.pdf
>educate yoself!
>>77412179
probably because it doesnt matter
>>77413181
they were there for free food
>>77413323
>Tiny percentage of Muslims are terrorists
>says most Muslims are to blame
>complains about others not understanding statistics
lel
>>77413409
It has only mentioned muslim dominated countries, but I think it says more about Islam as a whole than what you THINK about western muslimes.
>>77412686
these are all shithole countries though. I wonder what it's like for NA/Europe.
>Breaking their fast
>Praying for faggots
Not real Muslims. It isn't these shit for brains we care about. It's the one cheering for the deaths of 50 "perverts"
Degenerates are fucking degenerate, but they don't need to be slaughtered.
>>77413797
I do aswell burgerbro, but since they are coming from those shitholes you would assume they take their ways of thinking with them.
>>77412686
>no saudi arabia
apparently PEW wants to give them a pass
>>77413633
>No, it isnt true. Actually, second and third generations of middle-eastern immigrants are more radical than the original immigrants.
Still grew up in the middle-east, and consequently adopted these kind of views. The muslims who grow up in Europe are not as likely to have these extreme views.
>>77413414
>Remember, the kike liberals were saying "they weren't refugees" like it was a "good" thing that 2nd and 3rd generation niggers that grew up in Europe mass murdered people that could not arm themselves.
You're still taking one example out of many. If you compare terrorist attacks in Europe and the middle-east, you will see a LARGE difference. Guess why? Because of what I previously mentioned. There are plenty of terrorist attacks that are carried out by non-muslims as well.
>>77413095
hey faggot omar mateen was born in america and grew up here
saleh abdeslam was born in belgium
there's statistical research showing 2nd generation immigrants are substantially more ripe for radicalization
they are backwards scum and don't belong in western countries, magical dirt doesn't erase their backwards beliefs
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx
>>77413714
>nice strawman
Can you read? I was not talking about terorism but about muslims' opinions.
>>77413952
>The muslims who grow up in Europe are not as likely to have these extreme views.
Thats simply false. They are more likely.
>>77413723
>It has only mentioned muslim dominated countries, but I think it says more about Islam as a whole than what you THINK about western muslimes.
No, I think it says more about those countries' values than muslims. This is socialization 101. If you grow up around people with extreme views, you are more likely to adopt the same kind of views/behaviour. There are more of these in the middle-east, consequently making it a breeding ground for extremism. That's not the case in western civilization.
[Taqqiya Intensifies]
>>77413954
Two examples out of how many? Should we bring up examples of non-islamic, white terrorism too?
>>77412179
>Travel back in time to Poland circa 1940
>Nazi SS killing Catholic Poles and clergyman
>Nazis view Poles and other Slavs as a slave race
>Send a tweet
>#notallgermans
>Get sent to work camp as slave labor
>Die from typhus
>Can't get back to the future
>>77414035
>Thats simply false. They are more likely.
Then why are we seeing a radical difference between extremism in the middle-east and extremism in Europe? You make no sense.
>>77414261
>individual examples instead of statistics
Is this line of thought actually meant to work?
>>77412179
more attacks will come and the peaceful majority are irrelevant.
>>77413926
>PEW
if you ever find out why everyone capitalizes the Pew family's last name be sure to let us all know
>>77414379
Because muslims only make a few percent of european population????
what the fuck
>>77414149
You do realise that muslimes band together in giant ghetto's like Malmö where they breed like rabits and are basically a recruitment ground for ISIS?
So what if they are a product of extreme parents, their parents are still extreme, and when everyone is extreme in the middle east no one is, because by then it's a norm.
>>77412179
>>77413095
Get you fucked paki.
The day will come when your lifeless corpse will swing blue from the lampposts beside your SJW lovers.
>breaking their fast
They're the next to get shot.
I heard they changed the name of that night club from pulse to flatline.
When people ask me about immigration I say "Regardless of my or your stance on the matter I think we can agree that it's a very difficult and delicate matter which has to be handled at a domestic level if it's to be handled effectively", I don't say "Sink the fuckin boats and burn the buses, stain the earth with darkie blood until they learn they're not welcome". The lesson here is that sometimes people pretend.
>>77412179
>Praying for them
Yeah praying that they'll be turned hetero or something I bet so they can enter paradise
>>77414569
>>77413095
Explain why 60% of American Muslims want Sharia. I'll wait.
>webm of a bunch of muzzies praying with some text over it
yeah, sure. seems legit
>>77414569
>>77414379
How the fuck is it radically different when people are butchered in the streets of Europe just like in Middle East?
Why are you trying to suggest that one form of extremism is somehow more acceptable than the other?
>>77414510
>You do realise that muslimes band together in giant ghetto's like Malmö where they breed like rabits and are basically a recruitment ground for ISIS?
Yeah so it's the socialization that is a problem and not islam itself. You're fighting the wrong battle. The "muslims" need to be integrated into western society.
>So what if they are a product of extreme parents, their parents are still extreme, and when everyone is extreme in the middle east no one is, because by then it's a norm.
So take away the children if the parents hold extreme views, and let them grow up in a more secular/liberal household.
>>77412179
How many Christian extremists who despise fags have tried to do what this muzzie did?
I'm honestly curious I can't recall any American Christian group literally targeting gays for slaughter. There are probably a few, but I can't think of any.
>Retards are bumping this
You are the cancer that is killing /pol/
>>77412179
because they are celebrating
>>77414689
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
>>77414569
>>77415078
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/51-of-u-s-muslims-want-sharia-60-of-young-muslims-more-loyal-to-islam-than-to-u-s
>>77412179
i can make a caption too OP. mines more accurate and not based on liberal faggotry
>>77414890
Wanna know why their parents hold extreme views? Because they read and follow the Quran, the only way to elminate modern terror is to eliminate Islam.
There is no "extreme Islam" there is following Islam or there is not following Islam.
>>77412179
>praying muslims eating during Ramadan
looks legit
>>77414880
>How the fuck is it radically different when people are butchered in the streets of Europe just like in Middle East?
They are not? I live in Sweden and that doesn't happen here. Aren't you people saying that we have the most muslim immigrants? If what you are saying is true, we should have the most extremism, but we don't. Guess why? We have good integration compared to your countries. Our socialization system works fairly well.
>Why are you trying to suggest that one form of extremism is somehow more acceptable than the other?
There are different kinds of extremism and you know it. Besides, I'm not excusing extremism. I'm saying that it's a product of socialization and not necessarily Islam itself.
>>77412179
>males and females praying together
>those aren't real muslims
See how easy it is, liberals.
>>77415078
SWEDEN YES!
>>77415248
>>77412422
>The majority of Germans weren't Nazi.
Is beeing a Nazi bad?
>>77412857
Islam isn't a fucking race you tool. You can leave Islam anytime you want unlike your skin/iq.
>>77415272
>Wanna know why their parents hold extreme views? Because they read and follow the Quran, the only way to elminate modern terror is to eliminate Islam.
I think it's because they migrated from the middle-east (i.e. they grew up with these extremists and were consequently influenced by it). Their kids (and their kids) will gradually become more liberal with their religion as they grow up with non-extremists.
>>77412422
But that`s wrong. Hitler was democratically elected.
>>77415545
But thats proven to be false, you retard.
>>77413095
Isn't the argument that all terrorist attacks have been self-radicalized, domestic Muslims?
>>77415545
>Their kids (and their kids) will gradually become more liberal with their religion as they grow up with non-extremists.
this has literally never happened in the history of Muslim immigration to the west
>>77412179
>sweden
>>77413095
this
/thread
also, if we end welfare, we stop subsidizing those that don't want to assimilate
>>77415545
3rd gen immigrants are more "radicalized" than 1st gen
Stop cuckposting and try to preserve your dying nation
>>77412179
Well, that just changes everything, doesn't it?
>>77414379
You really this dumb? Muslims make up a much smaller percentage of the population.
>>77415545
Why are you under the impression that they become more liberal?
>>77412179
>record muzzies praying
>slap a caption it's for Orlando
>feel good about yourself
>>77412179
Wow! That's like 3.333 Muslims per victim.
>>77412179
>muh taqiyya
>>77412686
> For every non-violent, generally civilzed Muslim there are 7 or 8 terrorist-supporting, Sharia law-adhering Muslims.
So while 200 Muslims were praying, 1600 Muslims were happily praising Allah for the deaths.
>>77415616
>But thats proven to be false, you retard.
Socialization has been proven false? Stop the presses! Don't be ridiculous. It has not been proven false.
>>77415645
It's happening in Sweden. Explain why we don't have the highest extremism and terrorist attacks in Europe, since we "apparently" have the most muslims? We should according to you people.
>>77412179
200 out of 1.6 billion.
Awesome.
>>77415860
Socialisation hasnt been proven to be false, ahmed. Higher level of radicalisation among muslim immigrants' descendants in west has been.
>>77415860
>Explain why we don't have the highest extremism and terrorist attacks in Europe,
because there's nothing in Sweden worth terrorizing so it's easier to commit petty crime while leeching off the native society
>>77415750
Then why are we seeing more terrorism in the middle-east than in the west?
>>77415802
That's why I said a "radical" difference. Not my fault tht your reading comprehension is horrible.
>>77415810
Socalization.
>>77416019
>Socialisation hasnt been proven to be false, ahmed.
Good. Then my argument still stands.
>Higher level of radicalisation among muslim immigrants' descendants in west has been.
So you're just disproving yourself? You're saying that the descendants of muslim immigrants aren't as likely to be radical?
>>77416050
>Then why are we seeing more terrorism in the middle-east than in the west?
Why are you repeating the same question I already answered on which you didnt reply?
>77414485
Are you mentally disabled?
>>77415860
Your people are rolling over and letting muslims gangrape your females
You are funding Mehmet by paying benefits for his 7 wives
You are voluntarily giving away your money to help sandniggers destroy European cities and breed like rats
Why would they attack you
>>77412179
Fuck mudslimes.
>>77416050
"Socialzation"
Sounds like a bunch of hot air, do you have any sources to back that up?
Cause it's just a theory, a theory won't necessarily work in practice.
>>77416148
>Good. Then my argument still stands.
How? You have been disproven by statistics.
>>77416038
>because there's nothing in Sweden worth terrorizing so it's easier to commit petty crime while leeching off the native society
Are you serious? Extremists have just as much of a reason to attack us as any other country. We're not predominantly muslim. We don't follow the Quran.
>>77412179
>leftists
>not only do they control the narrative, but they then have a meta-narrative claiming their ideals/beliefs aren't represented in the narrative
>m
>f
>w
>>77416239
>We don't follow the Quran.
You inevitably will, because you dont have children. I mean, if you werent a troll behind a proxy.
>>77415508
>>77415577
>user was v& for this post
>>77412179
>200
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>77415248
>as if God doesn't rank higher than country
What's the Marines motto again?
"For God, Corps, Country"
Right, God comes first.
>>77416151
>Why are you repeating the same question I already answered on which you didnt reply?
When did you answer it? Here >>77414485 ?
That doesn't answer it. According to /pol/, Sweden has the highest amount of muslim immigration in Europe, so consequently we should be seeing the most extremism and terrorism, but we're not. The problem lies with socialization and not Islam.
>>77412179
Good, now they need to take the next step, and help actively fight radical islamists.
>>77416219
>Sounds like a bunch of hot air, do you have any sources to back that up?
Just google socialization and read about it. All psychology is essentially theoretical. It's a soft-science. That doesn't mean it has no credibility however.
>>77416509
Even if it's the fault of the local population, which is a complete lie
Why import these people, they'll only bring tension and the native population does not want them here
Why do this when you know it won't work
>>77416509
You have a few percent of muslim population and middle-eastern countries are like 90% muslim and you say
>we should be seeing the most extremism and terrorism, but we're not.
WHAT. THE. FUGG.
>>77412179
Good old sweden. Ur country is getting fucked by mudskins and u still defend them by pointing out non Problems. How is it beeing such a giant cunt?
>>77412179
And what was their prayer? "Thanks be to you, O allah, for not making me an apostate or a jew"?
>>77412179
Bretty good. And no, its not gonna go unreported because, unlike the millions of Christians throughout the world who volunteer and serve their communities on a daily basis, liberals love shedding good light on any and all non-christian groups.
>ONE POST BY THIS ID
>>77412179
Those 200 would also show up and pray and cheer while gays are being thrown off roofs. When they are the majority they act completely different. They did this because their Imam told them too so it would look good for Muslims no other reason.
>>77416896
>ONE POST BY THIS ID
>>77412422
>The majority of Germans weren't Nazi.
yeah, they were the ones who betrayed their country in its most crucial time of need.
>>77416670
It does when you are making a statement, when making a statement you have to have a fact with a source behind it to back it up, otherwise it's useless.
Using a buzzword like "socialization" won't help your case, I know what it's about and from what i've gathered it really dosen't explain what's going on in Europe.
Probably because it never happened
>>77416763
>Even if it's the fault of the local population, which is a complete lie
It's not a complete lie though, is it? It's the same principle as if you grow up around criminals (you're likely to adopt their behaviour). This is socialization. You adopt the values, behaviour and ideologies of those you grow up/live with.
>Why import these people, they'll only bring tension and the native population does not want them here
I don't think we should. I'm just saying that it's not really Islam that is the problem for terrorism in the west.
>>77416787
I'm talking about European countries, not the middle-east. Why doesn't Sweden have the highest extremism and terrorism in Europe? If we have the most muslims?
>>77415577
t. Achmed
>>77416670
>All psychology is essentially theoretical.
All science is backed up by evidence and statistics. Psychology included. When you prove something to be true by statistics, it's not theoretical. It's reality.
>>77412179
those arent real muslims
RELIGION
OF
PEACE*
[spoiler]*when convenient[/spoiler]
>>77416997
>It does when you are making a statement, when making a statement you have to have a fact with a source behind it to back it up, otherwise it's useless.
Psychology has more credibility than statistics. Statistics can have a huge number of possible explanations. You're just jumping to conclusions. Statistics are first and foremost a matter of interpretation.
>Using a buzzword like "socialization" won't help your case
I'm not using it as a buzzword, but as an explanation to the behaviour you are describing.
>I know what it's about and from what i've gathered it really dosen't explain what's going on in Europe.
Guess we disagree then. To me it does seem to have a lot to do with socialization. Look at the westboro baptist church. Why do you think the children are growing up to be like their parents, join their church? Is it christianity that is at fault? No, it's socialization.
>>77412179
They're just pretending to be grieving so they can plan more terrorist attacks
>>77417061
>I'm talking about European countries, not the middle-east.
You wrote:
>Then why are we seeing more terrorism in the middle-east than in the west?
Wow, that retard doesnt even remember what he wrote.
>If we have the most muslims?
You dont have the most muslims, not by far. You have high *percentage* of muslim population. Learn math. France has more muslims than sweden and guess what - more terrorism.
>>77417157
>All science is backed up by evidence and statistics. Psychology included. When you prove something to be true by statistics, it's not theoretical. It's reality.
Statistics can be interpreted in many different ways (unless it's a poll). Just because you see X amount of terrorism in the west it doesn't mean Islam is the perpetrator. Could be a host of other reasons.
>>77412179
>they are breaking their ramadam fast
real muslim would kill them for it
>>77417539
So you dont understand what statistics actually are (because this is all part of it). I expected that.
I assume you are a circa 18y old troll behind swedish proxy. Correct?
>>77412179
>Mass taqiyya
>>77412179
You will not see it on the news because even those bastards know it all for show.
>>77417486
>Wow, that retard doesnt even remember what he wrote.
Yes, that is what I primarily wrote. But then I narrowed it down and compared Sweden to the rest of Europe. I know it's hard for a east-european to comprehend English (since your educational systems are close to 3rd world standard), but don't be so quick to call me a "retard".
>You dont have the most muslims, not by far. You have high *percentage* of muslim population. Learn math. France has more muslims than sweden and guess what - more terrorism.
Belgium has more terrorism than us as well. Do they have a higher concentration of muslims too?
>>77417412
What the fug man, Psychology has credibility because they use evidence for their studies.
Simple saying "SOCIALZATION" won't make your argument valid.
That's like me saying Trump is a racist, because racism is a real thing and people agree that racism is a thing.
>>77417724
Seems like it's you who don't understand statistics.
Also, how you constantly resort to ad hominem just goes to show that you're struggling to come up with proper arguments to support your cause.
>>77415300
No, swedefriend. You have a good welfare system that keeps them from being too angry.
Make no mistake though, there are still areas that whites cannot go. That the police cannot go. In your own country.You can find out where these areas are and go there yourself. Go there at night and see what happens to you.
Make no mistake. They want Sharia law in Sweden. Do you want that, anon? Do you want to live in Afghanistan, or Sweden?
Your Swedish values are, indeed, good. I am not denying that. Altruism, egalitarianism, sharing. Excellent values.
But the Islamic migrants have opposing views of being insular, feeling their culture is superior and right, and that taking from your enemy is not wrong. These things lead to one outcome, and its not integration.
Why would they change their views in the second generation when there is no benefit? Will you teach your children to be racist? No. Why would they teach their children to be tolerant of other religions?
>>77417076
it's true though, he was democratically elected to a position that gave him some power, then he staged a coup to gain absolute power
>>77417802
>Simple saying "SOCIALZATION" won't make your argument valid.
Should I describe socialization every time then? Seems rather tedious when I can just say socialization.
>What the fug man, Psychology has credibility because they use evidence for their studies.
Yes, and that's why it's more substantiated compared to statistics.
>>77417754
>But then I narrowed it down and compared Sweden to the rest of Europe.
So you judged my response to a specific question by different suddenly changed question and therefore called my response invalid. Nice job.
>don't be so quick to call me a "retard".
See the point above why you are a retard.
>>77417865
>"Seems like it's you who don't understand statistics."
>and I wont tell you why
I actually do. And actually a lot. I wrote how exactly you are wrong about statistics and the point still stands since you didnt (and cant possibly) refute it.
>"struggling to come up with proper arguments to support your cause."
>doesnt disprove single argument of a post replying to
fucking kek, you are making it too easy for me
>>77413419
We seriously need this shit in every pro shitskin thread until all these tumblrinas and plebbit fags leave...get the dirty ones out.
Does anyone have the goat fucker who cuts out the dudes heart and takes a bite out of it?
>>77417412
What the hell are you saying?
Two things. One. Psychology uses statistics to prove things. So.. your statement is incorrect, and should be "Psychology has credibility because of statistics".
Second, statistics are not a matter of interpretation. If you're talking a study with a smallish effect size, and you get an answer pretty close to what you could get via pure chance alone (eg, p = 0.04), it does become a bit arbitrary.
But these aren't the kind of statistics we're talking about.
The results of an opinion poll are a different type of statistic to "How does x correlate with y".
Regarding your stance on socialisation - they are socialised. By their parents. To hate non muslims.
>>77418077
Sweden has a point.
The problem lies with multiculturalism. With multiculturalism Muslims won't follow the culture of the nation they are in and instead stick to their beliefs they find in their Quran because lefties encourage them to do so instead of identifying as part of the nation they are in.
This is why America has been so successful.
People come to America to be "Americans" and not Muslims, British, Irish, or Germans(at least they used to). Most Muslims in the US that came in the past when we were a melting pot were fairly nice people that wanted to be a part of our nation instead of wanting to blow it up. Nationalism is the key to solving this problem so people will identify with the nation they are in instead of their race. religion, or other backgrounds.
Although I don't believe Sweden has been successful as Swedish anon says as their media is busy trying to cover up any crime Muslims do.
>>77412179
You won't see this either Abdul...
>>77417921
>No, swedefriend. You have a good welfare system that keeps them from being too angry.
So the villain is anger, and not islam?
>Make no mistake though, there are still areas that whites cannot go. That the police cannot go. In your own country.You can find out where these areas are and go there yourself. Go there at night and see what happens to you.
What's your point? There are white areas like this too.
>Make no mistake. They want Sharia law in Sweden.
Yes, and our current system is based off of christian doctrine.
>Do you want that, anon?
No, I do not. But Sharia is not exactly extremism or terrorism if it's voted for (i.e. by the majority of people).
>Do you want to live in Afghanistan, or Sweden?
Sweden of course. I'm just saying that these terrorist attacks aren't necessarily sparked by Islam.
>Why would they change their views in the second generation when there is no benefit?
We don't have much control over how we turn out. From my understand is has nearly everything to do with socialization (i.e. the people you grow up with).
>Will you teach your children to be racist?
I won't have children, but if I would, I don't think I could do much for them. You can't really combat the way they are indoctrinated by school/society unless you home-school them, and limit the amount of time they spend with friends, etc.
>Why would they teach their children to be tolerant of other religions?
That's why I said that it's important to keep their children away from parents who grew up in these extremist countries. However, not doing so will still solve the problem, it will just take a longer time.
>>77412179
>You won't see this in the news
Yeah, because it's all just damage control nonsense. They still adhere to their 7th century desert cult which has no place in the west. They should be BTFOing extremists, instead.."prayer" and silence.
>>77412179
Yes cause 200 its shit numbers
>>77418535
>Nationalism is the key to solving this problem so people will identify with the nation they are in instead of their race. religion, or other backgrounds.
THIS is the difference. Nationalism is a virtue in USA. Nationalism in western europe is considered disgusting and hateful and makes you "literal fascist" and political outcast. Politicians from green parties particularly (dunno why, but its fascinating) use the word "patriot" as an insult to right-wingers, I always chuckle when I hear it.
>>77418513
>Two things. One. Psychology uses statistics to prove things. So.. your statement is incorrect, and should be "Psychology has credibility because of statistics".
Psychology is based off more than just statistics, so you're wrong about that.
>Second, statistics are not a matter of interpretation.
Most statistics are. Polls aren't, for example. But crime statistics and such? That has pretty much everything to do with interpretation (i.e. the cause).
>The results of an opinion poll are a different type of statistic to "How does x correlate with y".
Yes, and that's what I mean with my initial statement (and those of my previous posts). If you scroll up I'm sure you'll see that I made that distinction.
>Regarding your stance on socialisation - they are socialised. By their parents. To hate non muslims.
Answered this in >>77418671
>>77412179
They are mudslimes
They still praise a man who commited genocide and slept with a nine years old and who supports female genitalia mutilation
Stop trying to make this country more swedenistan than it alredy is you cuck
I bet your a 08 on the phone
>>77418671
>Yes, and our current system is based off of christian doctrine.
Which things in your law system is based on christianity? I can only think of marriage, but then the statement "current system is based off of christian doctrine" would be fucking brave :)
>>77418869
>Nationalism in western europe is considered disgusting and hateful and makes you "literal fascist" and political outcast.
No, now you're just blowing things out of proportion. Nationalism is still acceptable in European countries (and not frowned upon). Or maybe when you're talking about nationalism you're referring to "gas the kikes, race war now"?
>>77412179
Fuck off sweden.Shouldn't you be prepping some nigger to fuck your wife,sister,mother,daughter?
>>77419074
>Which things in your law system is based on christianity?
Practically all the core tenants.
>>77416050
There is a radical difference in the population of muslims in europe and the middle east idiot.
>>77412857
(1/100)(X/1,500,000,000)=15,000,000
>>77412179
I hope a fag shoots them up.
>>77419119
>"Or maybe when you're talking about nationalism you're referring to "gas the kikes, race war now"?"
>doesnt know what the word nationalism means
k, no surprise there, lets move to the next point
>"Nationalism is still acceptable in European countries (and not frowned upon)."
>while the main argument against UKIP is "dats raycis!!!1" without UKIP ever having any racist policy or statement
m8...
>No, now you're just blowing things out of proportion.
Nah.
>>77419263
Which things specifically?
>tenants
topkek http://www.thefreedictionary.com/tenant
>>77419119
Liberals tend to frown upon nationalism, in America people have been openly burning our flag in the streets to show their hate for the country despite living in it. I don't know how strong nationalism is in Sweden but I understand many European countries have started rejecting nationalism. For example some places in the UK and Germany banning the flag for being "racist".
>>77418662
the edits make it a lot better wtf
Oh look another shill slide thread.
Sage.
>>77419326
Look at pic-related. Do you see how Russia and Bosnia (Nations that have more in common with western civilization than middle-eastern) are more lax when it comes to implementing Sharia? Why do you think that is? I know the answer.
Also, look at punishment for adultery, and those who think suicide bombing is justified. Same applies to them.
>>77419579
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.574/swedish-school-bans-the-swedish-flag.html
I deliver some kek to you.
>>77412179
that's right, bow down and beg for forgiveness.
Oh, but they are bowing to their god who lives in a fishbowl in saudi arabia.
Fuck these niggers. Deport kebab.
>>77412179
A whole 200 out of 1,600,000,000.
Wow!
>>77419644
I,,still,,don't,,know,,what *sage*,,means.*sniffs*
>>77418045
Only 30% of Germans voted for the Nazi party how do you not even know your own fucking history.
>>77415577
Through plurality not majority
>german education
>>77419523
update
>>77419404
>k, no surprise there, lets move to the next point
People have a different opinion on what constitutes as nationalism.
>m8...
Wow, you proved me wrong I guess. No.
>Nah.
Except you are. If nationalism wasn't acceptable then you wouldn't see people celebrating their national day.
>>77419573
I meant tenets. Good job though on your strawman
>Which things specifically?
Murder, equality (both gender and racial), welfare, etc.
>>77419742
How is that relevant when muslim immigrant's aren't coming from bosnia or russia, they are coming from afghanistan, syria somalia, some of the worst places on the graph.
>>77412874
This card fucking sucks
>>77412179
The muslim pop of orlando is 30k this is less than .006 of the population
>>77419579
Yes but that's a minority, which is why I said he was blowing things out of proportion.
>>77419747
>thingsthatneverhappened.jpg
>>77412179
>200
>1.6 billion Muslims on earth.
Not even once.
>>77419382
yea eye for a eye ! the fag needs to rape them too
>>77418948
> Based off more than statistics
Yes, but what is the evidence base based on? And what else is it based on, where else do they get their empirical evidence? The reason psychology is labelled a "soft science" is that there is a lot of inference.
>Most statistics are
Crime statistics are not a matter of interpretation unless the way the data is collected is purposely biased. Give me an example, if you like.
>>77418671
The villain is dislike of the other. As Islam sets itself up as "separate" from others, when rage enters the equation, yes it can be a villain. Again, I invite you to go to the Islamic no go zones.
> White areas that are the same
The point was that you stated "There is no violence in sweden that is analogous to violence in the middle east, as far as public executions etc". And I am stating that there are groups of people who have the same values as the people in countries where this is normal practice. When the police are afraid to enter the area, what does that mean?
> Sharia is not extremism or terrorism if voted for
Right, so, you're okay with the displacement of Swedish values with Islamic values so long as the majority of the population wants it?
Do you not see how Sharia law is the antithesis of Swedish values?
>Not sparked by Islam
Sure, it's not Islam itself. It's the fact that people of a different race are inherently anti-white, because they're racist. And Islam is just a tool to push their racist agenda, which is to eliminate whites, and take land and resources.
> We have no control over how we turn out
Yes, pretty much this. And so why would you allow people from countries where the fundamental view (That the other must be killed, beheaded, that only one political view is acceptable. etc) is so radically different from your own into your country?
>Can't do much for them.. society socialises them
No, friend. Islamic children do not gain tolerance for white swedes from being around tolerance education.
Muslim Damage Control League(MDCL) out in full force!
>>77420129
>How is that relevant when muslim immigrant's aren't coming from bosnia or russia, they are coming from afghanistan, syria somalia, some of the worst places on the graph.
It's proving the point that it's not "muslims" that are the problem, but the countries they come form (i.e. socialization). The 2nd and 3rd generation (and so on) will be more liberal with their religion (i.e. not as likely to become extremists and commit terrorist attacks). Your own graph (that you use against islam) is basically disproving everything you stand for.
This is a shill thread. Sage all shill threads.
> #notallmuslims
This applies here. The majority are fucking barbaric.
WEVE BEEN KILLING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS FOR THE PAST FEW DECADES
WHEN WE GIVE THEM THE CHANCE, WHY THE FUCK WOULDNT THEY WANT TO KILL US BACK?!?
>>77414890
You're just wrong, we don't need to integrate them into western society, we need to integrate western society into their countries.
>>77419957
so? do you not get that we have a multi party system? that it's rare for a party to have over 50% by itself? we still have elected governments.
amerilards, i swear...
>>77413952
Sweden deserves to turn into Swedistan if cucks like you are all thats left
>>77420085
>People have a different opinion on what constitutes as nationalism.
Dictionary has precise definition.
>Wow, you proved me wrong I guess. No.
Not. A. Counter-argument.
>Except you are. If nationalism wasn't acceptable then you wouldn't see people celebrating their national day.
>what is tradition
>I meant tenets.
I know it's hard for a Swedish man to comprehend English (since nowadays your educational systems are close to 3rd world standard).
>Good job though on your strawman
topkek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
>murder
Thats illegal everywhere, idiot.
>equality
Thats demanded everywhere on the planet, except islam. So it's not christian thing, its normal thing. Or are you implying that for example Japanese has Christian law?
>welfare
Thats in Islam too, dumbass.
>>77412179
Muslims are so cucked.
>>77420757
Those 200 were faggots probably anyway.
>>77420580
Do you not know what a majority is?
Looking at this >>77419742 you can see that 30% of Muslims are not peaceful at all. It's really not so different from the Nazis is it.
>>77412179
>200 nice ones
>2,999,800 radicalized ones.
>>77420085
There are many people that protest against us celebrating our national day claiming our nation is all about genocide and other bullshit. I see this all the time especially with the black lives matter fucks. Then there is the Mexicans that come here waving Mexican flags and then burn the American flag. The thing is there is tons of people that don't give a fuck about the country they are living in and are only here to leech off our welfare. I am certain this kind of stuff goes on in Europe as well.
The whole population is not against it but nationalism has become very weak in the Western world.
>>77412422
Same thing goes for Christians...Religion cuck. The only good Christian is a Christ-chan.
>>77415078
That awkward silence when leafbro destroys your argument, better not respond to the fact 60% of american muslims want sharia. I wonder how many muslims in Sweden want sharia, you can protect them all you want but they will kill you all the same in the end.
>>77420893
i'm not sure, i understand what point you are trying to make here
>>77421072
But he isnt really swedish. Thats a proxy troll. It fits too well into the steretype.
>>77413095
you mean like this guy who grew up in the west and shot like 100 people?
>>77420370
>Yes, but what is the evidence base based on? And what else is it based on, where else do they get their empirical evidence?
Primarily statistics and scientific observation/experimentation.
>Crime statistics are not a matter of interpretation unless the way the data is collected is purposely biased. Give me an example, if you like.
Let's say they compile statistics that say rape has increased X amount. The cause for which, is based heavily upon interpretation and theory.
>As Islam sets itself up as "separate" from others
So does christianity.
>The villain is dislike of the other.
Christianity is just the same. It promotes dislike/hatred for those who do not abide by its message. The reason most christians don't enforce it is because they have become more liberal in their religious beliefs (just like the muslims are when they grow up in western civilization).
>When the police are afraid to enter the area, what does that mean?
They are not afraid because of safety reason, but because of the backfire it can on their careers and negative influence on islam and muslims in general (because people like /pol/ will think it's islam that is responsible, and not these criminal gangs).
>Right, so, you're okay with the displacement of Swedish values with Islamic values so long as the majority of the population wants it?
No. But I'm not in favor of democracy. I do not like this form of government.
>Do you not see how Sharia law is the antithesis of Swedish values?
I do.
>Yes, pretty much this. And so why would you allow people from countries where the fundamental view (That the other must be killed, beheaded, that only one political view is acceptable. etc) is so radically different from your own into your country?
Because over-time, these people will adopt a more liberal view (as this is how socialization works). If they are seperated from their parents, this process will be speed up radically. I never said I'm in favor of letting in these people however.
>>77412179
What a load of shit. That's New York, not Orlando.
Wow, 200.
Really makes you think.
>>77420673
>Dictionary has precise definition.
>a feeling that people have of being loyal to and proud of their country often with the belief that it is better and more important than other countries
Doesn't mention race. So according to you, race has no correlation with nationalism whatsoever. Therefore, it's perfectly acceptable to call someone a racist and not be anti-nationalism. Good job on arguing against yourself.
>Thats illegal everywhere, idiot.
Not every country has the same definition of murder. Look in the US for instance, the death sentence isn't considered murder, in Sweden it is however. Perhaps you need to look up the definition of murder, Mr. Smartypants.
>Thats demanded everywhere on the planet, except islam. So it's not christian thing, its normal thing.
It's not. Equality is very rare. It's definitely a christian value.
>Thats in Islam too, dumbass.
Yeah I can see that. That's why so many middle-eastern countries have welfare systems.
>>77412179
Not true.
>>77414526
>looks at ID
>1 post by this ID
What are you trying to do, Rabi?
>>77421072
Just look at pic-related here. >>77419742
Those statistics contradict the ones that the canadian posted. Explain.
>>77421303
>The cause for which, is based heavily upon interpretation and theory.
Thats all part of the field of statistics. Fuzzy logic implications and shit.
>just like the muslims are when they grow up in western civilization
But it's proven they dont.
>No. But I'm not in favor of democracy. I do not like this form of government.
No comment.
>I do.
So why dont you stand against it?
>these people will adopt a more liberal view (as this is how socialization works).
Except not. If it did, Europe would have 100% liberal population.
>If they are seperated from their parents, this process will be speed up radically.
But they are not.
>I never said I'm in favor of letting in these people however.
They are already there.
>>77421243
>you mean like this guy who grew up in the west and shot like 100 people?
Wow okay, a few example. I guess Breivik is proof that white men are terrorists as well. Because let's judge the majority based off the minority. Sound reasoning.
>>77412179
Because nobody cares. Mudslime values and religion are totally incompatible with western thought and culture.
2,000 of them prayed wile another 1.6 billion cheered around the world.
>>77412179
When Dylan Roof killed people in that church, the media didn't cut to white Christians enjoying brunch and walking their dogs. They were vilified.
So fuck you too, you're getting this treatment.
>>77413419
French were using the guillotine in public until the late 1970's
Get over it.
>>77413095
>>77415508
not as much as we're told, but the point is your enemy IS your enemy.
And if you kill them you win.
>>77421760
>But it's proven they dont.
Look at pic-related here >>77419742 and explain why muslims with more similarities with western civilization are more liberal in their religious beliefs.
>No comment.
Then why did you quote it?
>So why dont you stand against it?
I'm arguing the point that it's not necessarily Islam that is responsible for the terrorism we are seeing in the west. It has other factors.
>Except not. If it did, Europe would have 100% liberal population.
See first comment in this post. Proves you wrong.
>But they are not.
So? Even if they're not, they are still turning more liberal. It just takes longer. I was just explaining a way to speed up the process.
>They are already there.
Your point?
>>77413095
being this retard, mate u live in a country infested with muslims, literally the muslims rape and destroy your country...
>>77421720
No they don't Bosnia is a muslim country and Russia has had a muslim minority for a thousand tears, history went different there, muslims are new here and they are not adapting as anyone can see who has eyes and a brain. Explain to me why i should take in people in my country of whom a majority believe the law of the land should be based on a vague and violent 1400 year old book.
>>77421303
>Primarily statistics and scientific observation
So.. when you said "its based off more than statistics".. what exactly did you mean?
>Rape has increase X amount
Yes, in some ways it depends how they define rape. In Sweden though, it is well known that crime statistics have been manipulated to obfuscate the race of the perpetrator. Really, your argument simply proves that statistics that your government give you can't be trusted.
>So does christianity
Chrirstianity has had a reform. Islam has not. When was the last time a group of Christians stoned someone to death for adultery?
You're right, of course. In parts of Africa I am sure people are burned for being gay by christians. Of course they are. Which shows it has nothing to do with the religion, but the culture, and possibly the race, of those doing it. Does that make you feel comfortable, as a Swede?
> Christianity promotes dislike of the other
Not really these days. Catholicism promotes tolerance of Islam. Christian countries allow Mosques to be built. Go find me a catholic church in Saudi Arabia. Take a picture if you can!
> Aren't afraid due to safety reasons
You don't actually know what you're talking about.
http://www.thelocal.se/20140825/police-patrol-ignites-commotion-in-rinkeby
Use google to find more examples. There are lots.
> I'm not in favour of democracy..
What form of government do you prefer? Genuinely intrigued now.
> I do
At least you're partially there.
>Over time they will adopt a more liberal view
This only occurs if you have limited migration to the point that people can't group. There are 3rd, 4th generation migrants in the US who still identify as "mexican". They were born in the US. Their parents were. Their grandparents were. They still say they're mexican, identify themselves as outsiders to the rest of the country. Is that integration?
>>77412686
I fuckin hate cherry picking religious people (not only islam). What the fuck are they playing? not even they belive all that shit, they are just using it to their own benefit.
>>77412179
>200
>3,300,000 (in U.S.)
>1,600,000,000 (on planet)
>>77421633
>Doesn't mention race.
Why the hell should it? Race is a social construct after all.
>it's perfectly acceptable to call someone a racist and not be anti-nationalism.
It is. Why specifically shouldnt it?
>Good job on arguing against yourself.
Good job on arguing against yourself.
>Not every country has the same definition of murder. Look in the US for instance, the death sentence isn't considered murder, in Sweden it is however.
And how exactly does it imply that murder law is influenced by christianity? And does your retarded brain realize US is a christian country too?
>Equality is very rare
The fucking UN officially demands equality, voted for by member states from all over the planet.
>It's definitely a christian value.
So Japanese are Christians according to your """logic""".
>Yeah I can see that.
You can, in the Koran. It's part of the Sharia law.
>That's why so many middle-eastern countries have welfare systems.
You cant give money you dont have.
>>77422067
did you really win though?
>soon to be majority non-white
>>77415508
Nope. Just bee yourself.
based Sweden being the most tolerantest again.
>>77412179
Ah, the muslims are trying to pretend like they don't endorse these actions. Meanwhile their holy book says otherwise. Perhaps they are trying to gain favor of the people they are attacking.
>>77412179
>Over two hundred
Out of the 1.4 billion?
>>77422120
>being this retard, mate u live in a country infested with muslims, literally the muslims rape and destroy your country...
Stop believing the /pol/ narrative. It's blown out of proportion. The number of rapes are even decreasing in Sweden. See below
https://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-statistik/valdtakt-och-sexualbrott.html
https://www.bra.se/bra/bra-in-english/home/news-from-bra/archive/news/2011-01-18-how-common-is-rape-in-sweden-compared-to-other-european-countries.html
>>77412179
not compatible etc etc
need to go back.
>>77422370
Why are you so adamant on defending sandniggers?
>>77412422
>see OP's flag
>my face
>>77422493
He is one
>>77419628
I remember seeing the original uncensored photo on the internet back in 2014 when it originally surfaced...this is all I could find of it now
>>77422370
>The number of rapes are even decreasing in Sweden.
That doesnt disprove any part of his statement. He didnt claim they are not decreasing.
>>77422180
>No they don't Bosnia is a muslim country and Russia has had a muslim minority for a thousand tears, history went different there, muslims are new here and they are not adapting as anyone can see who has eyes and a brain.
Then explain to me why the muslims in those countries are WAAAAY more liberal than those in the middle-east? Please? The only explanation I can think of is cultural differences (meaning it's not islam that is the villain, but the culture of the country they live in).
>Explain to me why i should take in people in my country of whom a majority believe the law of the land should be based on a vague and violent 1400 year old book.
Values can be changed. I'm not saying you should however. I'm arguing a point that extremism and terrorism isn't necessarily caused by Islam.
>>77419899
Look it up in the rules newfag
You seriously think they pray for the faggots?
No they are praying for the shooter and that he gets to meet holy Moe and fuck the 69 virgins or some shit
