Trump is literally switching on all his policies.
Pic related
How can you stand him /pol/?
why do you have to like fucking guns to be a conservative i don't get it, bless trump
>>77403174
The thing is...
You shills get paid, and as a result there are tax records.
That means YOUR NAMES AND ADDRESSES automatically become a matter of public record.
Don't think we'll forget about your anti-American shilling activities when the time comes to separate the wheat from the chaff....
>>77403174
Really makes you think
>>77403280
>conservative
>to conserve
>to conserve the constitution in its original form
Leaf.... Leaf, the US would not exist without the bill of rights. In the legal community, 99% of federal judges and constitutional law professors throughout history wouldn't fucking dare to touch the bill of rights.. The bill of rights is what prevents the federal government from becoming tyrannical and oppressing you. If the bill of rights wasn't in the Constiution then the Constitution wouldve never been agreed to be ratified by the anti-federalists like Thomas Jefferson.
The 2nd amendment is your guarantee that if the government ever becomes tyrannical (LIKE ITS BECOMING RIGHT FUCKING NOW) then you can kill the people in power and replace it with a more just democratic republic once again
>>77403174
#ToHillInAHandbag
>1 post by this user
>>77404062
Will normal functioning citizens not be allowed their 2nd amendment rights in this situation? I think the founding fathers would have allowed exclusions when it comes to mental stability. I believe only people of sound mind should be allowed to carry an arm, don't you?
>>77403174
if he decides we need a 50nfiit wall, good switch. If he says not only ban all moooslims but roughly reject the ones here..better switch. what's your point? I thought you fags liked switch hitters.
>>77403174
>what are you doing guys? We have to make sure terrorist can get their guns!
Fuck you, something is going on. I don't want any mudslimes given guns. The NRA endorsed Trump, they should just revoke sale to immigrants. Owning a gun is a privilege for citizens.
>>77403174
Why would the NRA agree to this unless they think they're about to be wiped out?
>gun restrictions stop people from protecting themselves against a tyrannical government
>HOWEVER THOUGH DISSENTERS SHOULDNT HAVE GUNS
>>77403174
>Stopping people under investigation for Islamic extremism from owning guns is a violation of muh gun rights
Why are American conservatives such dick sucks?
>>77403280
you can knit or croquet we just don't want anyone fucking with our iron. it's my freedom and I guess I'll have to continue to give you your freedom since you don't like guns, which means you wouldn't fight for freedom, which means how could I ever trust you, which means fuck that shit you gotta go too.
>1 post by this ID
>>77404864
hey fucktard, white people are on the terrorist list too
>>77404864
We call them cuckservatives. Typically balding over weight white men, sometimes a goatee, and sometimes have a black child.
>>77403174
You can't strip someone of their constitutional rights without taking them to court.
You can't circumvent due process by creating "lists" of people who shouldn't have their rights anymore. If being on a list means you lose rights, then you should be able to represent yourself in court to prevent being put on one of those lists.
There should be a duty of the Authorities to inform individuals of their decision to pursue putting them onto such a list, and the decision should be reviewed by a Judge in a court of law.
>>77405054
omg you mean white terrorists are going to have their guns taken?!?!
HELP ME CUNTSTITUTION
>>77404546
Holy shit fucking kill yourself
NO
It says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" for a fucking reason
They didn't just write these amendments half-heartedly without thinking. They wrote them very fucking specifically.
The 2nd amendment is to make sure EVERY single fucking american is allowed to keep and bear arms no matter what type of arms they are. No matter the mag size, no matter if it automatic or semi automatic or a grenade or a ballistic knife or a fucking mortar. The purpose is so that every single fucking American can own a gun to protect this country from tyranny whether that be a foreign or domestic threat.
If you throw out the 2nd amendment and then say "ok only mentally stable people are allowed to own guns" then that is so fucking ambiguous and vague that every time power changes hands in the federal government then the current people in power can disarm whoever they choose to disarm.
How fucking stupid are you that you can't understand something this fucking simple??
>>77404546
The problem is the government can place people on the no fly list for no reason at all. That means you can be placed on it for no reason, without even knowing it. Without a trial, or shred of evidence. Even felons get a trial in court before they aren't allowed to buy guns. I'm not saying there shouldn't be restrictions to buying guns, but this is not the way to go about it.
>>77404546
Not as long as it is the government that determines what is mentally sound.
Have you never been called deranged by a leftist?
>>77403174
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/743078235408195584
torpedoed his entire campaign with one tweet.
fuck the cunt, I'm done..
Also this is par for the course with the fucking NRA. same backstabbing Judases they always been when it comes to gun rights, which Is why I (former life member) dropped them decades ago for GoA.
>>77405300
MUH GERNS!
>>77405331
You need to fucking kill yourself too
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Under no circumstances should the federal government infringe upon the peoples' right to keep and bear arms
You're a fucking faggot and should be killed if you think there should be any restrictions whatsoever on guns
>>77403174
the mudslime was removed from the list in 2014
>>77405563
I didn't ask your opinion.
>>77403174
You must be a liberal, because only a god damn retard wouldn't be able to see the persuasion he's using in that tweet. Do you even understand what he's doing here? No, you don't because you're a fucking braindead retard.
>>77405752
Kill yourself fucking bootlicker
>WAHHH MUH SECOND AMENDMENT
>MUH EXACT WORDING
A lot of #CruzMissiles ITT
>>77405301
IN THE TWEET HE DOESNT SAY THAT ITS HIS POLICY
YOU FUCKING RETARD
THIS HAS HAPPENED 100X TIMES BEFORE AND YOU FUCKING IMBECILES ALWAYS GET BTFO
FUCK YOU
>>77405504
To be fair, man, they did prevent any new laws from coming into effect after Sandy Hook. That's enough to secure my membership.
>>77405827
>implying Cruz would've protected the 2nd amendment
Fuck you, Im never voting for an authortarian
>>77405826
Are you a dumb nigger? I still didn't ask for your opinion.
>>77405827
Trumptards finally revealing their true socialistic colors. Not surprising.
>>77405828
The fact that he even acknowledges it as a legitimate stance that he could take is fucking ridiculous.
You don't understand how fucking crazy it is to even think about touching the bill of rights
>>77405958
back to >>>/reddit/ you go bootlicker
>>77403174
You guys don't know what the meeting will even discuss. They could meet for 5 minutes, say "This is a really stupid idea, right? Right. Oh, and Hillary is a bitch, go get her, Don!" and be done.
>>77405755
He's already made his position clear.
>“If somebody is on a watch list and an enemy of state and we know it’s an enemy of state, I would keep them away, absolutely,” Trump told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos in November.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-nra-meeting-224362
>>77406060
Nah, I'll stay on /pol/. It's easier to enrage the inbred rednecks.
>>77405992
Do the world a favor and off yourself with that gun, Alex
>>77403174
You seem to forget that we won't have need to for a terrorist watchlist after all the Muslims are kicked the fuck out.
>>77405888
You mean like the Supreme Court case where they upheld the 2nd Amendment as an individual and not collective right that Cruz helped?
That kind of Cruz not protecting the 2nd Amendment?
Kill yourself.
>>77406160
>>77406231
>>77406249
whatever, Cruz MIGHT have upheld it if he was President but he basically wanted to institute a theocracy so fuck him
>>77406278
Nice meme pic. You sure shut us up. Post one with the frog, that one really makes me mad.
>>77405301
Being a conservative doesn't stop you from accommodating your dogmas to your surroundings, that's for religious extremists
>>77403174
>31 minutes ago
>1 post by this user
The UK government can't deport terrorists and rapists because of the European convention on human right.
The USA government can't stop people who wish to do harm legally buying weapons because of the second amendment.
With out these laws the governments can do as they wish.
>>77403174
>implying the NRA won't set him straight
>implying this tweet isn't just for show
>>77406370
Name a single piece of legislation he sponsored or co-sponsored that expanded/would have expanded theocratic authoritarianism in the United States.
I'll wait.
>>77403174
Not a shill but he needs to reverse his position on this, banning people on an invisible government list from owning guns is completely unconstitutional and would mean the end of the 2a, hopefully the NRA explains this shit to him
>>77403174
You're so fucked
You get paid to campaign we will have your information you are not actually anonymous CTR has to pay taxes there is already a law suit..You're already doxxed
4chan will have your personal information...Have fun
>>77404864
Due process exist. But I guess someone who still bows to the queen wouldn't understand
there's no due process for the no fly lists.
they can LITERALLY just add a a name because they feel like it.
if this is true and trump backs this, i'm done with the nigger.
i will make sure armed revolution happens within a year because both candidates are obviously anti-American.
>>77405300
99% of the people currently on the no-fly lists, are brown muslims.
>>77406672
If they switch the gun ban to Islamic people on the terrorist watchlist i'm in
>>77404864
Yeah lets just let the government ban who ever they want from owning guns without any due process and without even informing them
>>77405301
So according to you, Omar Mateen should have been allowed to buy the guns he did.
Fuck off and fuck every gun nut who thinks like you.
>>77406720
He's already backed it during an interview last November.
But nobody would listen.
>>77406720
>I will make sure armed revolution happens
I'm sure you will. Posting on 4chan will surely rally the comrades under your banner. You guys are worse than the middle aged Facebook activists who change their profile picture.
>>77403174
Guess we all gotta vote Libertarian now, eh?
>>77406417
If you want to change the Bill of rights then pass an amendment.
Oh wait you can't, because nobody wants to change the 2nd amendment except for literal braindead crazy liberals
Also the bill of rights protects people from religious extremism
>>77406815
Listen...They kill you not us.
If you cant bring yourself to make the ban specifically about Islamic Terrorists, I don't care if they kill you
>>77406720
agreed
>>77405301
How can people be this retarded? Obviously people should be allowed to have guns but if you think there should be absolutely no restrictions on who should be able to have guns then I look forward to the day you got shot by a crazy.
>>77406815
50 dead fags is better than having to live in a authoritarian police state in 200 years because some liberal retards like you wanted to change the 2nd amendment
>>77406994
they can't use the no fly list as a basis for gun restriction.
in theory, they could add every single american to the lists, without due process. bam, all guns are illegal.
>>77404062
>The 2nd amendment is your guarantee that if the government ever becomes tyrannical
You're a fucking moron that regurgitates marketing that you swallowed whole.
Go and read the writings of the founders, and congressional, records such as the first debate on arms and militia, 1789.
The second Amendment was not meant as a vanguard against a tyrannical government, the founders had just fought a bloody war, they sure as fuck did not want their government dismantled.
It was meant as a REPLACEMENT for mechanisms in which a tyrannical government could even exert itself. The government of the United States was designed so that it could simply never BE tyrannical because it's not supposed to have any permanent teeth, domestically.
The USA is not supposed to have a federally-commanded military in peacetime, just a navy, actively defending shipping lanes, That's it.
THAT's what the second amendment is about, to facilitate the existence of a civilian army made up of state militias. To make America hellish to invade, and to have every person participate in civil defense.
Every single one of you is supposed to be trained and ready to fight at any time. You are all supposed to have access to firearms, whether personally or from a community armory. What's more, you're supposed to have access to anything your militia leaders think they need to defend their respective state, or the union if called upon to do so.
That's what the second Amendment is actually for; to replace the federal military entirely.
But people love rights way, way more then they love responsibilities, so people like you shit out soundbytes and never even know just how far away from the intentions of your founders you really are.
They would shit their pants with rage at the US having hundreds of bases all over the world. They would ask you what the fuck, why you didn't honor the second amendment.
>b b but I consumed! I bought some firearm products!
Would not be a satisfactory answer.
>>77406994
And I look forward to the day that you live under the tyranny of an authoritarian police state
Freedom is always better than
>m-muh security ::((((( protect me daddy government :(((((
>>77407076
>in 200 years
try 200 days. what makes you think they would wait 6 generations?
>>77407120
But they will never make guns illegal in America. Doing so would be functionally impossible.
>>77403174
Wait a sec, so americans that are on a terrorist watch list can buy guns? wat?
>>77403174
Doctor gave me benzos. I feel like an apathetic lazy zombie fucker without appetite but here goes. My brain feels dead. Anyways. Ummm. We were supposed to remember how bad Hitler was (he helped create the Zionist state) so not only from an angle of certain religions but from a so called left and right wing view as well. The right wing also sucks with economy. If you ask a person if Mateen was either a phobe or a Muslim you dummies pick Muslim. Right wing is useless. Global communism is useless. Games are played. But the old left stood against ALL that. Become left wing. Libertarian socialist maybe? This guy is a goosestepper and wants all the press' freedoms. And yours. Being right isn't edgy anymore. It's more SJWey than SJWs. Time to pack it in boys
>>77407153
eh?
hose off, you hoser.
Listen thread
This is Trump we are talking about
He is not afraid to say un-PC things so if he comes out of the meeting and he proposes that only Islamic people on the terrorist watch list can not own guns.....Are you actually against that?
No way to spin this. He's fucking us
>>77407187
So not wanting to get shot by muslims and psychos is the same as wanting everyone to be completely unarmed, thanks for informing me.
>>77407153
Omg ur right!!
Guess I should just let the government take away my guns!! That's surely going to stop the government from being LESS tyrannical by having the people not have any guns!!! That'll do it
That's it I'm a #hilldog now!!!
>>77407076
>having to live in a authoritarian police state in 200 years
lol, try 10 years ago. You do know that the patriot act literally suspends your freedoms if you are "suspected" of engaging in terrorist acts? That is literally the same thing police states used.
>>77403174
>implying he ever held policies to switch on
>>77407288
B-but muh mudslimes deserve due process!!!
As someone who is on the terrorist watch list and was previously on the no-fly list, I am against this.
I am a perfectly normal citizen, who has no intentions of terrorism. Why shouldn't I be able to buy guns?
>>77407288
Yes, I am against that.
Come at me.
>>77407285
Go learn about your own country. The founders were radical visionaries. America isn't unique because of muh freedoms, it's unique because it was designed to shatter paradigms and actually bring about a new age.
>>77406815
He was never convicted of anything, dumbfuck. You think the gov should be able to take your rights away with no due process? Litterally kill yourself
>>77407482
Yes and I agree with everything in the patriot act if it only applies to muslims
Bush was a cuck so he was to afraid to be specific
>>77407450
It literally fucking is.
If you're going to take away guns from people based off of a no fly list or a terrorist watch list then that means if Hillary is elected YOU WILL BE LABELED A TERRORIST AND YOU WILL NO LONGER HAVE YOUR RIGHT TO OWN A GUN
fucking retard
>>77407254
Well, if they nuke the 2nd amendment (which they can do - it's just a process), then they could. But good luck getting elected on the platform of "I'm going to alter the bill of rights".
>>77407438
>anyone who dislikes Trump's policies is getting paid by Clinton to dislike Trump's policies
>muh false dilemma
No, you are the shill. I don't like either of these candidates.
>>77406528
These laws fucked white society over.
>>77407288
Yes I am fucking against that
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
faggot
>>77407550
You don't belong here..
This would be the first chance in 80 years we can write a race realist law
>>77407464
>can't even read a few short sentences
Go upstairs, tell your mom you need extra ritalin, quaff it down, wait half an hour or so, and try reading again.
>>77403174
Trump supported gun control in his book several years ago. He has only spoken against it for the Republican primaries.
>>77407598
Why am I on the terrorist list? Is everyone?
>>77407588
Holy shit shut the fuck up you liberal nigger faggot
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77407288
I'd be for it if he said that, but making it so that anyone on a watchlist has their rights taken for no reason is too much and I wouldn't vote for him if he kept pushing it. I agree with all his policies up to now and I really hope he stops it or does like you said and just comes out and says no muslims allowed to own firearms
>>77407686
Then maybe you should make me leave, tough guy.
>>77407657
go back to redstate faggot
>>77407544
We believe you Ahmed.
>>77407567
right, and that new age included the ability to depose a leader that tried to make himself king.
WITH GUNS, FAGGOT.
He said 'talking about', as in a discussion. He didn't say he was for it.
>>77407686
It's a fucking tyrannical authortarian law that is trying to debase the democracy and liberty that we have created
FUCK OFF BACK TO >>>REDDIT BOOTLICKER
>1 post by this ID
>>77407749
He hasn't said anything like that moron..Its one tweet about talking to the NRA about a solution
>>77407630
Of course they "could" but no one is stupid enough to try. What would they do? Search everyone's home and confiscate all the guns? It could literally start a civil war.
>>77407735
I read your post and it baffles me how you could support gun control even after writing what you wrote....
FACT: more gun control = less freedom = less freedom makes way for tyranny
what does /pol/ think about Bill Maher?
>>77407869
Authoritarian law
Do you know where you are. get the fuck off my board
>>77404062
Leafs don't really understand freedom Burgerfriends
>>77407744
the why doesn't matter!
they can add anyone they want with zero justification.
there are fucking republican US CONGRESSMEN on the list. (democrats run the list and who gets put on it, currently)
You can't deny that Omar had a constitutional right to buy the guns he used.
This is a situation where the Constitution made us less safe.
>>77407744
You're going to be on the terrorist watch list because the parameters for which you listed to remove your 2nd amendment rights are ambiguous as fuck circumventing due process allowing Hillary to literally just write your name on the terrorist list because "he's a toxic white male that uses 4chan and says mean words on the internet"
Bam, rights gone, hello police state
>>77407915
He backed the idea back in November.
You weren't paying attention, were you?
>ill be having a meeting with the NRA
>/pol/: OMG HE'S TAKING AWAY ER GUNS!!!
>>77408048
>muh slippery slope argument
Can doesn't automatically mean will.
>>77407787
Back to >>>reddit you liberal fucking bootlicker
>>77407153
You don't ~need~ anything not immediate to your survival anon.
You don't ~need~ what ever it is you used to wipe your ass with in order to make this post, yet there it is.
>>77406448
>makes a post stating the number of posts by ID
>only has one post
Are you a shill?
>>77408121
Then vote Hillary have a liberal supreme court and lose your fucking guns
>>77407598
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/slippery-slope
literally the only argument that seems to make sense but is completely stupid. I'm all for gun rights, but don't go full retard "muh 2rd amendmant SHELL NAT BEE ENFREEGED" when they want to restrict mudslimes and terrorists.
You'll have a right to get mad if they misuse those lists like your thin foil hat theory says (but they won't)
>>77407744
>Why am I on the terrorist list? Is everyone?
everyone in the entire country could be put on the list without due process or ability to appeal
you could be put on the list for any reason, the reason itself doesn't matter
the fact that you're browsing /pol/ could easily be used as a retarded justification for why you need to be disarmed
do you not see the problem?
>>77406720
He has always been against gun rights. People have been telling you asshats this for the past year but everyone who tries to speak reason gets shouted down as a cuckservative shill.
>>77408080
no
our immigration policy is at fault. the tool is never at fault, its the person who wields it.
>>77408080
Muricans believe in their special rights over everything else. That's why we're practically a third world shithole compared to every other first world country.
>>77408175
>>77406794
yes, please do that.
>>77406815
He wasn't on any of the lists. None of these "solutions" being offered would have prevented this.
>>77406929
Gary Johnson doesn't like the Second Amendment at all.
>>77408005
Do you know where you are nigger?
Back to >>>/reddit/ NEWFAG
>>77408080
The net benefit outweighs the actions of psychos.
Omar killed those people, not the Constitution.
>>77408080
freedom > safety
kill yourself bootlicker
>>77403174
>discussing an idea is the same as endorsing an idea
>>77405186
you just painted a nice self-portrait
>>77403174
Sounds like common sense...
>>77403174
1 post
>>77408210
At this rate, we'll get a shitty new judge anyway.
Might as well make sure the commies get blamed for it.
>>77408215
Holy fucking shit
The slippery slope is REAL nigger
Read a fucking history book
>>77408166
you might want to see the speech rahm emanuel gave on this very topic. he literally said we will use the no fly lists to ban guns, almost verbatim.
>>77408236
Again, slippery slope? What makes you think everyone in America would be put on the "no gun" list. If it went that far there wouldn't be a gun list, they'd just repeal the second amendment. Which is never going to happen. There will never be a widescale complete ban on guns for all or most of the population because they know the hell that would follow if they tried.
>>77405301
I'm voting for Trump but I'm not blinded by him. This anon is right. You are allowed to disagree with policy.
The only thing that keeps me voting for him is that I know he'll at least entertain the spirit of the second amendment, and change his views upon further evidence. I know for a 100 percent fact that Hillary wants this country to turn into Europe and bend to the will of her doners.
>>77407859
>another retard who can't even read
I literally said that you're ALL supposed to have weapons, you drooling mongoloid.
And not just guns. The Second Amendment is about more then just guns, it's about whatever is needed.
Seriously, is this what all children are like now? Too stupid to even read and comprehend a paragraph or so?
>>77408353
Ron Paul was a fucking joke and we made your life and your cartoonist's life hell for 4 years for spamming our board with that cuck
Now hes our cartoonist and you circle jerk about ted cruz and other faggot cucks
>>77408210
Both will take away guns
Both are authortarian
Our only option is to usurp the federal government from power
>>77407969
They are gradually molding the culture into one where only a minority would oppose it.
They're building consent. Terrorist attacks and other mass media programming gradually convince the majority that this country will be safer when guns are confiscated. And they're using a boiling frog approach, taking it one small step at a time. After all, they only want to take guns away from people who are "enemies of the state".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nM0asnCXD0
>>77408474
We have your personal information CTR
>>77408549
Fuck didn't mean to put a ? there.
>>77408438
He already endorsed the idea, this is about getting the NRA to back him on this.
>>77408215
reddit is definitely invading.
they are the only ones that think slippery slope is a fallacy.
>>77406528
>>77406448
>1 post
>>77407288
>only Islamic people on the terrorist watch list
anyone stupid enough to believe this is beyond all fucking help.
They been saying it blatantly for years.
Mark it - There will be more white patriots on those lists than fucking sand niggers
>>77403174
>1 post by this id
>>77408569
We are trying a nationalist
You have no back up until we try it our way. 90% of the people who would help you usurp are 100% behind Trump
>>77408616
What is CTR?
>>77407986
>it baffles me how you could support gun control
I never said that I did, you fucking idiot.
You did not or can not read anything if that's what you walked away with.
FACT: you are barely literate.
>>77408506
SEE
>>77408549
BECAUSE THEY CAN PUT EVERYONE ON A NO GUN LIST JUST BY HAVING THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
REPEAL AN AMENDMENT IS TOO HARD BUT THEY CAN LITERALLY JUST USE JUDICIAL REVIEW TO "INTERPRET" THE 2nd AMENDMENT HOWEVER THEY WANT AND USE OVERREACHING UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW LIKE THE PATRIOT ACT AND THE NDAA 2012 TO TAKE AWAY YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
READ A FUCKING HISTORY BOOK NIGGER
>>77408761
Correct the record
>>77408549
>If it went that far there wouldn't be a gun list, they'd just repeal the second amendment.
they can't legally overturn the second amendment and they'll never be able to, they can use something like this to achieve the same effect, however
>>77408568
>lol u guize got totez btfo by some epic may mays xdxd
BACK TO >>>/REDDIT/ NEWFAG
>>77408189
It's not legal yet, put that shit out and go do something constructive like losing weight.
>>77408691
this this this this
i love the guy but will have to drop him over any gun compromise
>>77408733
I will never back an authortarian
That's a fucking death sentence
America died in 2012 when YOU didn't elect Ron Paul
>>77408768
And you're a fucking bootlicker
>>77408857
>>77405301
But Islam is at the door fucker. TRUMP is the only one who wants to so something about Muslims. We should ban those ragheads from owning weapons.
Go back to shilling other threads. Trump is right on this one.
>>77408963
Paul was shit
He let them completely ignore his movement without fighting back
We tried it youre way it fucking didn't work now you will try it our way. Or you will fucking be alone
What the fuck is he doing? Liberals already don't like him and now he's trying to make constitutional conservatives and libertarians hate him? This is the dumbest fucking move.
>>77409015
that's it im a #hilldog now!!! u convinced me!! xdx
>>77403174
I only wish the terror watch list and no fly lists were public, like the sex offender registry. With their addresses and everything.
>>77409142
NO, if you want to ban muslims from entering the country then I will support that 100 fucking percent but you don't fucking touch the bill of rights.
If you want to stop islam then support christian sects, then dont hire them in your business and refuse to serve them.
The bill of rights is literally the only thing PROTECTING YOU from SHARIA LAW
>>77408946
>Not letting literal terrorists have guns is bad
What?
>>77409153
Your way will kill America and I will never support an authortarian who will touch the bill of rights
>>77409439
Hillary will appoint two maybe three Supreme court justices
ALL LIBERAL
You will be disarmed
>>77409390
>britcuck
>wanting less freedom
I just got my beaucratic job in government running the terrorist watch list. I say there's this super evil white male on 4chan that is a terrorist. POOF your rights are gone. Great idea britcuck
>>77409528
So will Trump.
Our only option for freedom is to usurp the federal government from power and to reinstate the Constitution in its original form.
>>77408994
You're a complete fucking moron.
Even after me repeatedly pointing out that you didn't understand a fucking thing you're still too stupid to comprehend a few simple words.
I guess my initial assessment was right, and there's nothing to be done about it until the ritalin kicks in.
You'll always be a tool until you learn how to educate yourself and that begins with basic aspects of literacy like fucking reading words and then comprehending the words that you've read.
You're an actual nigger.
>>77403174
Denying niggers, wetbacks, mudshits, leftists, and all manner of """"people"""" who aren't worthy to own guns is a good thing.
>So if they did something, those who are worthy could shoot them
>>77403174
Nope. Trump could take guns away 100% and I'd still be for him. I'm not a conservative, I'm Pro-Trump and Trump policies.
>>77408845
There's literally no point in having a second amendment if it's made functionally unusable. If it got the the point that they could do what you're suggesting without a major uprising then no one would complain if the amendment was repealed. A significant portion of Americans own guns and do not want there guns taken from them. This won't change in the near future. If the government tries to take their guns they will fight back and cause a huge amount of civil unrest in the country. The government knows this. Libshits want a situation like in Europe where there's no gun crime because no one has guns, but it's not possible here and never will be.
I'm a Sanders supporter and this is one thing I agree with Trump on. Assault Weapons should NOT be in the hands of Suspected Terrorists (White Domestic Terrorists like the Bundy Ranch guys Included)
Trump is sounding better and better each day, I'm glad hes flip-flopping!
>>77409583
I generally think Burgers should be allowed to have guns
But do you really think the Orlando muzzie should have been allowed to buy a gun while it was known he was a terrorist?
>>77409439
And there will not be an armed revolution
No one is going to come to your house and take your gun.
It will just be illegal to use your gun...If someone breaks into your and tries to kill your family and you shoot them YOU will go to jail...If you get pulled over and they find a gun on you, you're going to jail
Vote Trump or be disarmed
>>77409366
Banning Muslims won't stop terror attacks. Most of the shootings by Muslims have been by natrual born Americans. They are being radicalized remotely through media and propaganda, banning Muslims from coming in would be declaring that we are in fact at war with their religion.
A gun bill like this would prevent these so called "waves of terrorists within the refugees" to not have access to guns anyway, so they won't be able to do harm.
So you can't censor the media to prevent radicalization, and banning them would push the ones already here to BE RADICALIZED. Banning them from using guns is the only solution.
Fuck is hillary paying you by the post?
>>77407280
Change "religions" to "politics" there
>>77403174
>1 post by this ID
MODS PLS
>>77403174
The man is a fucking genius:
>Appeal to the right-leaning populace
>Radicalize their views
>This alienates them from the rest of the population
>You move from being "weird in a funny way" guy to "who let this retard out" guy
>This also forces the opposition to radicalize
>Defeat all his party opponents
>Now the choice is either him or full-on-commie Hillary
Now this man can do whatever his kike overlords command him to do and you have no more option than continue to drink his cum because you're too emotionally invested to dump him and the opposition is much worse.
10/10 played an entire country as a fiddle
>>77409741
redditor bootlicker
>>77410112
Nice flag
>>77409761
I don't disagree, but that won't stop them from regulating and over regulating and passing as many laws and bans as humanly possible to make it increasingly difficult to own firearms.
you can let the left have a win after a shooting
it will kill all base support for D-man
>>77409761
I agree Hillar- I mean anonymous h-hehe we totally don't need guns!! I feel very safe having you as Madam President also I am sorry for being a cis-white male for posting on this terrorist board please take my guns
>>77410112
Played the entire world like a fiddle
There is no reason to think he has kike overlords though
>>77410000
Are you retarded? Banning Muslims will absolutely stop terrorists. Most Muslim terrorists are American born because we barely have any Muslims here. More Muslims means more attacks.
>>77403174
How did you faggots not realize he was a democrat the whole time?
He spewed that hyperbolic shit to incite conversation and give you edgelords a rallying figure.
God the public is so easy to play, even in an age of mass disclosure. You simply forget the facts as it's convenient.
>>77403174
>opposing policies that would make it harder for shitskins to get guns
Law abiding hasguns here. I have no problem with this
The problem is many people who don't deserve to be on the no fly list, are on it. Probably the suspected terrorist list too.
So they have to revamp the criteria for falling under one of those lists. Otherwise the government can label everyone as a "suspected terrorist" and take away your right to buy firearms.
>>77409817
Yes
Let me get this through your head: I fucking hate muslims. I want them wiped off the face of the Earth. HOWEVER, I understand how fucking important the Bill of Rights is and I would never allow anyone to touch it except through a legitimate amendment passed through the method described in the Constitution on how to pass/repeal amendments.
>>77409941
Vote Trump and be disarmed
>>77410252
>support people owning guns
>am Hillary
If you say so.
>>77403174
Trump is a bullshiter, and murricans too dumb to realize that.
>>77410365
or we could just deport muzzies and shitskins altogether and not limit freedoms
>>77403174
>1 post by this user
>>77389925
>>77410521
One step at a time, friend
>>77410257
Except him flip floping on his policies to left leaning ones.
>>77403174
yeah becuase you can see fuck you to everybody and then you can lick their ballsacks all day.
Has trump some dignity left? i think he left it in his past failed business, just like his presidency run.
>inb4 mad burgers apear
>>77408569
people need to start voting in their local and state elections, these people thankfully can be voted out in favor of officials who will vote in our favor
>>77410451
Oh okay you're a Hillary shill.
>I'd rather let Hillary scrub the 2nd amendment completely than let Trump restrict guns to goat-fuckers
>>77410532
>people think retards baiting /pol/ for shits and giggles are robots and hired shills
Never change /pol/
>>77410589
If he gets an Islamic terrorist ban on Assault rifles he will when all of the independants...
And he is a madman who will make it about muslims. He also has the entire left stuck fighting the only wedge issue the left doesn't have the edge on.
>>77410419
>Otherwise the government can label everyone as a "suspected terrorist" and take away your right to buy firearms.
That's kind of the point. The NGI database has more non-criminals in it at this point than criminals.
It's an extension of the same logic used for asset forfeiture (which has exceeded the monetary value of all robberies and burglaries in the U.S.)
How many fucking Hillary shills are in here?
Also saging and reporting
>Trump is literally switching on all his policies.
The NRA was the party that recently made a statement about not allowing people on the terrorist watchlist or no-fly list to obtain guns, provided there is due process.
Trump wants to give them a talking to.
We don't know if he's agreeing with the NRA or not.
Are you people shills or don't watch the news?
>>77403174
I hate Shillary even worse the more I find out about her, will never consider voting for the cunt.
I support Trump no matter what.
Right now the core issue appears to be the credibility of the watch/ no fly lists. Since eliminating terrorists should be our goal and putting them on a list or disarming them doesnt help, how do we better eliminate potential terrorists?
>>77410605
Trump never had any principles or policy, people elected him as a fuck you to the elites, much like why Bernie was winning despite being a borderline commie.
1 Reply by OP
This is a shill thread.
>>77403174
Goddamn there is a lot of jew shilling on this board. Jesus fuck us all, that Hillary sure is fucking swine, eh?
>>77410952
Important distinction.
>>77410684
Both options are equally as bad.
Touching the bill of rights whatsoever is the slippery slope which will lead to the death of liberty
>>77403174
>voting for a reality star
>>77403174
You fucking idiot, can you not see what a genius move this is?
>Generally patriotic NRA cannot refuse this without losing face, as it's a move against terrorism
>Leftists can't be against this because they are pro-background checks, even though this obviously mostly hurts muslims, as they make up the vast majority of those on the terrorism watchlist
He has given the NRA a free pass to be more likeable without losing face, he has made progress towards hindering terrorists in getting firearms and he has mads himself more popular across the board
He has literally put two players checkmate in one move, by making two chess games one, whilst winning three chess games in that same move.
Get the fuck on his level or be run over by the Trump train
>>77404569
it's a RIGHT not a privilege
>>77411202
Patriot Act already did that, anon.
>>77410972
>Terrorist watch list
>No fly list
Am I the only one noticing this?
I mean if someone is on either of those list then yeah, its a good thing he wont get a gun.
OP is a shill and a faggot and not a cool faggot at that.
>>77407735
I understand leaf friend
I will practice for you
>>77410365
>I have no problem with this
Then you can get the fuck out of my country and take your faggot guns with you
If the government is allowed to ban people from owning guns if they are a suspected terrorist or on a watch list we are all fucked
Everyone who visit's this board as well as /k/ are automatically put on a watch list for one
Then there's the part where the government could literally suspend your rights simply because you don't see eye to eye with them on politics or any other issue they decide to fuck you up the ass with.
Citizens are allowed to own guns, background checks are illegal and should not be permitted
The government needs to stop taxing and hiking the prices on our guns n ammo
gun free zones are illegal and the people who implemented them should be shot
>>77403174
Why do they even have watch lists then?
They are subjective non public records. How do you know if you are on those lists, or why you were put on them? How do you get off of them?
You cant just strip people of their rights without any kind of due process. Thats a hugely important concept. Its the RIGHT to bear arms just like the RIGHT to freedom of speech. If i can take away one I can take away the other.
>>77404569
>Owning a gun is a privilege for citizens
>privilege
its literally not
its a RIGHT
>>77411242
4d chess. Gotta love it
>>77411202
The bill of rights as already been molested repeatedly. You'd have to be retarded to think they're both the same.
But everyone can already tell that you're just trying to push an anti-Trump agenda.
>>77403174
What is he switching on?
>>77411404
>They are subjective non public records. How do you know if you are on those lists, or why you were put on them? How do you get off of them?
The only way you can know is to be an agency that has access to the NGI. Even then, you aren't allowed to remove records.
>>77403174
What retard thinks a known or suspected terrorist should have a gun?
>>77403174
This is fine with me, as long as they make those list more transparent and put a straightforward system in place to appeal your placement on that list.
It's BS that people are put on it for having similar names or shit like that.
>>77404477
checked
>>77411242
Thanks for clearing that up with your Le Dilbert Man tier analysis, Jan.
>>77411333
>Everyone who visit's this board as well as /k/ are automatically put on a watch list for one
someone thinks they matter
>>77411553
Probably the same retard that thinks going to /pol/ doesn't designate him as a suspected terrorist by the state.
>>77403174
>>77411553
Fucking this
>>77411476
I am pushing anti-AUTHORITARIAN agenda
believe me, im fully aware of how fucked over the constitution has been and i am trying to prevent it from being fucked over anymore
Not everyone here is a mindless drone who will support a cult of personality without reprievement
The no fly list is the absolute worst thing to use for deciding who should be allowed to own guns. I've had family members on the no fly list literally for having a basic, common American name that a terrorist could use to conceal their identity. How fucking retarded is that? "Your name is too common in America so everyone with this name can't fly or purchase firearms" fuck that and fuck you
>>77411668
>>77410177
you are retarded
>>77403174
>1 post
saged
>>77407153
>"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
>"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
>"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
>"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
>"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
>"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
>"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
Faggot.
>>77410419
This- plenty of people are probably on the watchlist just because they opposed the war in Iraq. What's to stop a seriously anti-gun democratic president from saying that anyone who has ever opposed forcing wedding cake companies to make cakes for gay couples, even if it is against their beliefs, is a right-wing extremist and potential terrorist? Who's to say they won't decide not supporting the most attention whore tri-gendered zucchini kin is terrorist behavior?
Don't have a Facebook or don't use it 'enough?' Potential terrorist. There's reasons our system is based on habeas corpus and due process.
>>77411818
leaf
>>77411553
What retard thinks people should be deprived of their rights without ever being tried in court by a jury of peers?
>>77403174
>>77411553
>Hillary gets elected
>FBI ignores Muslim terrorists and starts focusing on right-wingers
>>77403174
I wonder how much you are paid to suffer on this website. Not enough i bet to deal with us "bigots"
>>77412000
When you attack and or plan on attacking our country you have know more rights you fucking sand nigger
