HAHAHAHHAHAQHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I FUCKING TOLD YOU FAGGOTS HE WAS A LEFTIST SHIT
>>77373028
>terrorist can't get guns
I really don't see the problem.
>>77373204
>I want the government to have the power to take away my gun with no due process
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
(((why doesn't the USA ban semi-automatic rifles all together? Such a backwards fucking county)))
>>77373204
When he says turrerists, he's talking about white males.
>>77373028
Good thing that trump has the nom in the bag then and cruz dropped out.
I would nuke my entire island if it meant btfo terrorists.
He says he's going to talk to them
NRA will him it's a bad idea and he will comply
>>77373204
>put tea party, ranchers and white militia "terrorists" on no fly list
>now they can't get guns legally
I don't see how this could go wrong. :^)
>>77373028
Isn't this already law?
If not then why not?
>>77373406
The problem isn't the guns, it's the people who shoot the guns at others. Why would you want to go out and kill 50+ people? There is no rationality that can explain that, because it's not rational, so why the fuck do we use statistics and the such to even give a means of average of anything? These are fucking insane people. They are doing insane things. It's a mental health problem, not a gun problem. Plus, taking away guns at gun point is maybe the most backwards thing one can let happen.
>no fly list guy wants a gun
>has an interview with ATF
>they review his case
>they decide
I don't see the prolbem.
Just don't allow them to buy rifles.
problem solved
>>77373636
yeah
fbi watchlist doesn't mean shit apparently
Omar bought some guns a week ago
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77373028
I'd be interested to hear what they actually talk about. Obama has said repeatedly that he wanted to do this, so for all we know he's going to talk about that.
>but that would mean you could disarm anyone you want!
Something they will surely tell him.
(((Why the fuck do most of these shootings happen in the USA? Ban the one common tool used in these shootings- semi-autos)))
>>77373028
NRA what do you think?
No Don it's bad
Ok thanks for you input
life goes on
>>77373636
Those are secrete government lists that some guy in a cubicle put your name on. You can't appeal it. You are taking away someones fundamental godgiven right on a whim. Its a leftist ploy to increase governmental control while looking tough on terrorism.
Surprise, surprise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DDnvRjCU9A
>>77373664
>the atf
>THE ATF
the real solution isn't banning guns.
It's using mind control so you can control the whole populations. I hate free will so much, it has murdered trillions
If the list had any transparency or due process maybe, or if there was any way to know if you were on it and get off of it. As it stands now, no way.
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160615/nra-statement-on-terror-watchlists
wew
>>77373497
>He says he's going to talk to them. NRA will him it's a bad idea and he will comply
This.
>>77373204
>Obama's goons say you're a bad goy
>now you're on a list and can't own guns
See the problem?
>>77373028
what if the alphabet agencies don't want targets to realize they are on a watch list and thats why they are allowed to buy guns?
>>77373028
So the NRA are leftists too?
>>77373823
/thread
Just because you think I might commit a crime when I haven't, doesn't give you the right to take away my rights. Gun-grabbers can't into logic and reasoning when they try to push the idea that they're reasonable.
There's countless numbers of federal gun laws. Did the laws save the 100 people shot at the club in Orlando? Did the laws save the people in San Bernandino? Did the laws save the kids at Sandy Hook? No. People were killed by someone who believed they had the right to take away another persons life because of their own justifications.
>>77373925
seems perfectly reasonable to me 2bh
>>77373028
You know he is just going there to ask for more money.
>>77373953
Okay, how the fuck is Carter not dead yet?
>>77373306
>Take away my gun
It prevents terrorists from getting them in the first place. I see nothing wrong with these regulations. Now, if a snackbar really wants a gun he'll probably get it anyway, but it will make it harder to obtain them through legal means.
>>77373028
>NRA = Leftist
good one retard.
it sounds ok if trump or someone with this countries self interest is making the lists.
But what happens when someone that conspires with the muslim brotherhood is in office making the no fly and terrorist list?
slippery slope...
>>77374367
Yeah, lets just ban guns.
>>77373204
If the government does then then today it's "terrorists" who can't get gun, and tomorrow it's whoever the government doesn't want to have guns.
Which is literally exactly what the second amendment is supposed to prevent, you stupid fuck.
>ban guns from people i don't like
That's now how rights work.
>>77374179
too bad we don't have some document to protect and guarantee our rights...
>>77374367
What part of "no due process" are you too braindead to understand? That is not okay, terrorist or no terrorist.
>>77373028
OP the faggot, let me explain
If NRA works with Trump and concedes the point about TERRORIST WATCH LIST exemptions (somehow via some mechanism), Trump has thereby WORKED WITH THE NRA AND SIMULTANEOUSLY SECURED SOME ASPECT OF GUN CONTROL
WIN WIN faggot LITERAL ORGASMS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE
>>77373028
So conservatives WANT terrorist to have guns? Even Lib-cucks aren't that stupid.
>>77373028
>We are happy to meet with Donald Trump. The NRA's position on this issue has not changed. The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.
He cut a deal. Bringing sensible gun legislation to Washington to stop those damn terrorists with the blessing of the NRA.
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You idiots are saying that a person that is on an fbi terrorist watch list should be able to get a gun especially if muslim?
I mean he will get them illegally but why make it easy? Implicate others
>>77373953
>the monarchy doesn't like trump
Isn't this a reason to support him?
>>77374691
Nra blessing
Huge
I actually was thinking this- why can't the nra and govt get together and make some real laws that may even work?! Jesus christ
>>77374772
Wait are you such an idiot that you believe the government should just be able to declare that you cannot buy a gun, with no due process, and no way for it to be appealed, and without you ever committing any crime or being convicted or tried in a court of law in any way?
Are you really that retarded?
>>77374691
>Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist.
The real question is, why aren't they doing this now?
>>77373953
Those are all the assholes that got America in the mess it's in. Fuck those guys. They just don't wants Trump's massive cock around when the buttfuck each other.
>>77374691
This is fair. As long as a court is involved and you have a trial before your right can be taken away, as well due process to get off the list if you are wrongfully put on it, then this is fair.
>>77374931
NI but common sense man
The dude is muslim and on terror watch list and flee to Saudi arabia
Let's lets him buy a fucking ar
>>77375017
Fair enough here too
>>77373306
So you're a terrorist?
Gotcha.
>>77375059
If he's buying an AR in Saudi Arabia being unable to buy it in the states wouldn't be relevant, retard. If he's in the US he obviously hasn't fled.
It's common sense that if you allow the government to take away his right, then they can also arbitrarily take your right away too. That's why you're a retard.
>>77374691
I'm fine with this.
>>77374367
> it prevents people who haven't committed a crime from getting a gun legally
>>77373028
trump assumes only islamic jihadists will be put on the terrorist watch list
>>77373204
What constitutes being on a terrorist watch list? Who gets to decide who is on there?
>>77375412
Trump supported the assault weapons ban.
>all this cognitive dissonance of people who actually believe Trump is any different than Hillary or Bernie or any other candidate on TV.
We're doomed.
>>77373028
N-no guise h-he's red pilled I swear, o-once we elect him h-he will turn national socialist pls b-believe me
>>77375283
Let's keep the muslims able to buy guns
What a fucking moron
Same goes for mentally ill people
Faghot
>>77373953
>5 globalist douchebags don't like a populist
This is a bad thing how exactly?
>>77375527
Not that hard man
What happened to common sense?!
>>77375527
It's unknown. It's possible that browsing these boards could put you on it. Some dude can just put your name on a list and take away your second amendment without any recourse or any need of proof or evidence or due process. He could literally just put names of people he didn't like on there.
That's what Trump is proposing.
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>>77374507
Didn't say that. Also """Not an argument""".
>>77374573
Hopefully our leaders don't brand the average dissident a terrorist. My expectations are low for that though, so I understand how this could be abused.
>>77375293
Conspiring to commit terrorist acts is a crime bud. Certainly when there's evidence.
>>77373664
>the ATF deciding something
>not a problem
childrenlaughingwhileburningalive.jpg
>>77373028
> allowing everyone to buy guns
> except pakis
B A S E D
>>77373608
The solution is obvious. Just make the restrictions only apply to people suspected of Islamic terrorism.
We absolutely should be targeting Muslims specifically.
>>77373608
This.
>>77373028
I'm actually so fucking worried now. He could completely lose my vote over this. I would rather throw my vote away at Gary Johnson than give the government the chance to do this.
>>77375643
What if I, your neighbor decided that I didn't like you and got on your open wifi network and visited a fuckton of ISIS websites for a few weeks, removing your right to own guns?
>>77375571
>let's ignore the Constitution
Go fuck yourself. There's no reason to put any new restrictions on buying rifles.
Only 300 people are killed by rifles per year in the united states of america.
So why does the government want to make a list of people who can't buy them, when more people are killed by hammers?
>>77374955
because they can't get jobs for G4S and then shoot up gay bars if someone stops them from buying a gun
Trumptards BTFO.
>>77375760
No more checks and balance than that
We can't allow the current system to continue
>>77373028
I hope he is just discussing it, which is why the tweet was ambiguous - by discussing I mean him and the NRA talking about ways to counter the lefts talking point.
NRA won't let him get out of line, which is good.
>>77375832
If you're already being investigated by the fbi you can't buy guns. If they determine you're not a threat you get your right back. The issue is the FBI fucking sucks and thought this guy was no longer a threat.
>>77375938
I would get a visit and ask them to prove it whree they will find foul play
>>77373028
HOLY SHIT DONALD TRUMP CONFIRMED FOR LEFTIST
#I"MWITHHERNOW
>>77376153
This makes sense
Period
This is exactly what I thought when I read the tweet, topkek. I'm happy to see Little Donnie reveal his true socialistic colors.
>>77375902
and when you find out the johnson wants to do something you don't fully agree with? vote for hillary?
>>77373028
that doesn't look like twitter's font
>>77376268
Cuck the consrvatives
They've bashed the shit out of him already
Traitors
>>77373028
The NRA agrees with him. You dummy.
>>77373204
muhhhh 2nd amendemenbent
>>77376153
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean "innocent until you're being investigated," faggot.
>>77376318
I am now a cruzmissile
Even if Donald were a secrete leftist he would be no different than jew puppet Cruz.
>>77376278
This is the system already in place. What donald suggested and what hillary suggests is taking away god given rights to whomever they please with no due process and no way to appeal that list.
"oh we just gotta reform those lists to add due process"
Yeah its fucking called a court. If they have proof you're a terrorist you go to fucking jail.
>>77376336
It's real.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/743078235408195584
But who cares? Terrorists: go fuck yourselves, you pieces of shit!
>>77373028
Keep in mind that Omar had a bomb that didn't go off strapped to him as well, so there's something.
>>77376398
>Implying Muslims deserve full civil rights.
>>77376504
>suspects shouldn't be allowed to own guns
thats not due process you fucking commie
Shit why even have a back ground check?!
2nd amendment
Why age restriction? Doesn't have one in constitution
Mentally ill also should have
I fully agree
Ahhhhhh and the ghetto niggers
The best of all to have
I don't think you fags realize that if the Government has the power to deem you a terrorist and take away your gun with no due process, this isn't the best thing to have here in the States.
>>77373664
>no fly list guy wants a gun
>has an interview with ATF
>they review his case
>they shoot his dog
Fixed
>>77373028
Trump is going to tell the NRA to agree to the measure, and the NRA will follow the Trumps Advice.
Countdown until being a white male puts us on the Terrorist watch list by default at birth.
>>77376460
Keep on kidding yourself, Trumptard. Cruz is universally hated by all the shills in Congress for a reason. He's anything but a puppet.
>>77376503
I don't believe in God and where did he say you have the right to own a fucking gun?
I'm pro 2nd but some retooling needs to occur
I get the concern for government over reach
Somethjbg can be put in place to stop it
Yea the constitution but Jesus it is so vague
>>77373204
>Do you want a gun?
>THEN YOU'RE A TERRORIST! ON THE LIST YOU GO!
>>77373664
>no fly list guy wants a gun
>he goes in a buys one
>goes home happy
this is the ideal situation, not some bullshit arbitrary list anyone can get put on
this translates to "no guns for muslims" you know that right?
>>77373028
Everyone on /pol/ better run out and buy a gun right now. :)
>>77376091
Oh, if he isn't just discussing it and it comes out he supports it I am not voting this year. And buying more guns.
>>77376570
>implying they won't wait ten years and then use this against white males and claim that since everyone's equal, everyone should be oppressed in this way.
You're a retard or a conniving jew.
>>77373306
Reported to ur mum
Enjoy time out, terrorist.
FACT: All muslims should be banned from owning guns.
>>77376831
And then some hyper leftist kneejerk candidate comes to power after Trump who decides that anyone he doesnt like is a terrorist and changes the criteria to fit.
>>77373028
Immigration is a privilege. Hell even our founding fathers questioned it.
I'm massively pro guns and I don't see a problem with this at all
Terrorists can't get guns and law abiding citizens can get guns
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77373664
The second amendment says you don't need the government's permission to buy a gun. It doesn't say 'unless the government puts you on a arbitrary list.'
>>77373028
>Meets with NRA
>Hey they told me why that was a bad idea
Life goes on.
>>77376578
Terrorists don't deserve due process, limp-wristed faggot.
>>77375017
This.
100% reasonable.
If you got beef, let it be settled in court.
another thing:
This also allows individuals to find out if they're on a watch list AND provides a means to challenge it.
We've not had a way to check this or challenge it before.
NOT ONLY HAS THE DONALD UNIFIED WITH THIS, HE IS FURTHER PROTECTING FREEDOMS BY FORGING A PATH TO DUE PROCESS TO REMOVE YOURSELF FROM WATCHLISTS!!!
What a fucking GENIUS.
>>77377073
You don't see a problem with taking away people's rights for being arbitrarily put on a suspect list?
>>77373028
you want people on the terrorist watch list to be able to buy guns? hmm really sensible. trump must be a SJW i guess. top kek guys
>>77376831
muslim deportation is much easier
That is from janurary
>>77376964
Not possible to enforce. If everyone had guns, including muslims, crime will go down anyways.
Anyone who supports this (I hope Trump doesn't) doesn't know 5th, 14th amendment.
>>77377144
>suspects of what ever law they might have broken don't deserve rights
suspects are NOT criminals until they're PROVEN criminals
>>77376791
>I don't believe in God and where did he say you have the right to own a fucking gun?
>I'm pro 2nd but some retooling needs to occur
These people exist and are on /pol/
>>77377034
You mean the founding fathers that imported a zillion niggers?
>>77377158
If you're constantly googling Jihadist manuals, how to build bombs, how to destroy buildings and bypass airport security, and shit like that then yeah, I don't think you deserve the right to obtain firearms.
>>77373028
Kek.
Muh slippery slope.
>>77377308
>5th
I mean 4th, 5th and 14th.
>>77377144
Innocent until proven guilty.
>>77377400
Founding fathers aren't the ones that let niggers roam free, dumbass.
>>77377342
People like terrorists don't follow the law. Same reason Geneva Conventions don't apply to them. What are you, some kind of Muzzie sympathizer? Ramadan making your blood sugar low or what?
>>77377030
>And then some hyper leftist kneejerk candidate comes to power after Trump who decides that anyone he doesnt like is a terrorist and changes the criteria to fit.
If there wasn't a law on the books to twist, he would create one. Probably much worse.
I think we need tighter gun regulations but tying it to the list you can be arbitrarily put on for no reason with no warning and have no recourse for getting off of if proven to not be a threat is not the way to do so.
>>77377400
Importing African slaves was the biggest blunder in the history of the Americas.
>/pol/ is now for a neutering of constitutional rights simply because Trump said he's for it
Bunch of fucking bootlicking robots. You're no better than the libs.
>>77377490
It doesn't matter, the no fly list and "terror suspect list" is completely arbitrary and denying people's rights under it is unconstitutional
>>77377155
have to prove your innocence to the government to get rights back instead of government have to prove you're guilty to take rights. kill yourself
>>77377490
innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. How can you like the 2nd amendment but not the 4th,5th,14th?
>>77377544
due process. the thing Trump is talking about allows the government - without going through a fair and reasonable trial - to remove your 2nd amendment right.
>>77377597
At lead we paid for them.
Europe does it for free.
>>77373460
we are now ready to die to defeat Islam. 100%.
>>77377544
What the fuck are you going on about at this point? Do you genuinely think everyone on a watchlist or no-fly list has to be a terrorist? Are you some sort of retard?
>>77377697
Terrorists don't have, nor do they deserve, any rights.
>>77373204
> I really dont see the problem
Your typical redneck everyone.
>>77377030
>implying hes created a law yet or come to a decision. What do you think he's going to do when he talks to the NRA? Your already convently forgetting half the tweet and making baseless assumptions.
>>77373204
They can put you on the list without due process
>>77373028
>i will be meeting
>>77377844
>they're a terrorist before being proven to be a terrorist
>>77377833
>terrorist detected
>>77374367
The definition of "terrorist" is ambiguous
>>77377844
Then prove they are a terrorist in a court of law by a jury of their peers to take away their rights.
>>77377948
>trumptard detected
Off yourself.
>>77377144
And what happens when sitting Democrat agencies go down the list and put your lack-of-foresight ass on the Terrorist watchlist because you're a patriot, as Obama said "the biggest terrorist threat to the citizens of the United States."?
We cannot give them an avenue to confiscation. I don't want Civil War but I'll fight in it just the same.
>>77377697
Niggers are animals. Its like giving a monkey rights.
>>77374367
>government bans private sales
>government becomes sole arbiter and gateway to legal gun ownership
Nope, no chilling effects here!
>>77377844
how do you prove they're a terrorist before they go to court?
the government will be able to just say anyone is a terrorist - including you - and take away your guns
>>77375643
The Judicial system doesn't operate based on "common sense". It operates on written law.
>>77377997
Terrorists and enemies of the United States are not our peers.
>>77377948
This gives me a boner.
>>77373953
>These assholes are our living presidents
>>77376578
the reason government is such a cluster fuck is largely because you have shitloads of people getting upset when they do sane things like not let terrorists buy guns
>>77377678
You still have the right, you're just being challenged at the time of purchase.
The government WILL have to prove their case in a court of law, and you will get a chance to defend yourself against their accusations.
This is how criminal law works.
You are innocent, but you are still under suspicion, so your rights are suspended until the matter is cleared by a judge.
I can't believe Trumpshills are ACTUALLY defending this. This is some next-level memery. Reminds of the time he was riled up about Apple not giving up their rights wilfully, and Trumpfags were performing incredible mind gymnastics to "justify" his position.
>>77376278
>period
hill shill
>>77377697
DID TRUMP SAY HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A LAW? NO HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT AND TALK TO THE NRA FOR ADVISE ON THE IDEA.
Jesus christ you fucking reactionaries are retarded.
>>77378107
"You are a terrorist. Give me your gun." --obama
>>77374691
>due process means guilty until you prove yourself innocent, and the watchlist in error
Good old cunts at the NRA being cunts yet again.
>>77378176
>terrorists shouldn't buy guns
sure
>arbitrary lists that people get thrown on for being "suspects" of terrorism shouldn't buy guns
thats unconstitutional
Why don't they just tell people who are on watchlists that they are on a list and being watched. Wouldn't that alone stop most people who might have had some plans rethink it because they know they are being watched?
>>77378086
The FBI is part of the Department of Justice. They go through processes that probably none of us know about, including dealing directly with the courts.
>>77377924
>all muslims aren't terrorists
>>77374367
How do you prove one is a terrorist?
>>77373925
>The NRA is actually for the gun control idea
This will be ignored.
>>77375902
Johnson is as bad as Hillary on this you fucking moron
>>77373497
>>77373953
hope so
>>77377898
Then make there be due process
Wtf?!
John Gibson radio host is on no fly list. He would not be able to get guns and he is in texas
Dumb yes. What he do? Unsure but Jesus chris make it more reasonable.
If there is a fucking muslim that is on a trrro watch list and he visited Syria 10 times in last year and is googling how to make bombed
Then yeah- fbi should do their work and in the meantime ni fucking way can buy a gun
You massive backwards thinking niggers
It hasn't worked yet and won't in future
>>77377844
They're not proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be terrorists.
I made a thread yesterday saying exactly what Trump is saying, and plenty of people came in to voice their opinions. The consensus was that people on the terrorist watchlist should not have their second amendment infringed.
People are worried about the potential implications. It potentially sets a precedent because people not convicted of any crimes could have their second amendment right infringed.
>>77378357
Doesn't matter what procedures they go through, it has to be due process.
You can't just throw people on arbitrary lists because you said so then take away their rights.
America has a nigger problem
>>77373953
>ruling class hates Trump
That's one of the main reasons he's so popular.
>>77378303
can you even read,are you retarded?
>>77373028
>>77373306
>>77373823
>>77374507
>>77376153
>>77376503
>>77377347
>>77377997
>trying this hard
The problem is, he wasn't on a terror watch list. The FBI investigated him twice and nothing was found so he was cleared.
Label him terrorist all you want but this guy was just an ordinary closet homo American.
The only way he could have been stopped was if we stopped selling assault rifles to civilians.
>>77374367
>It prevents terrorists from getting them in the first place.
How.
>>77378092
Em then change the law to include common sense items
Its not rocket science
>>77378176
You cant take someones rights away without them being convicted of a crime. The people on the watch lists have not committed any crimes. The chuckle fucks repeating this whole thing are so ignorant they do not realize the "law" would be stayed instantly and struck down by the SCOTUS upon review.
The very fact we are even talking about this is a waste of time. Every second and breath from here out is just wasting more time and energy on nothing
>>77374973
so much this
>>77378207
Reminder that most Trrumptards on /pol/ are edgy 13 year old kids from /b/ and /v/, this is their first experience with politics.
>>77373028
Only 6,000 US citizens are on the no fly list. I highly doubt many are on there by mistake.
If they are, the NRA will be vocal and congress will finally add an appeals process for getting off the list.
Calm the fuck down guys, it's gonna be fine, and it'll shut up the libs
>>77378546
>The only way he could have been stopped was if we stopped selling assault rifles to civilians.
He didn't have an assault rifle and there are more ways to get a gun than buy it in a shop.
I live in Cuckmany and still have 2 REAL assault rifles and a handgun.
Go figure what I could get in your de-facto warzone.
I thought it'd take more for you to lose faith, /pol/, really I did.
>Trump spends the first part of his campaign appealing to the far right wingnuts by being as racist and xenophobic as possible.
>Further toward the second half of his campaign, his message will switch to win the left vote.
>Trump finds a catapult in the Colorado shooting and loads a stone of leftist opinions into it.
>Trump skates straight into leftist view points and none of his idiot hick fans are any the wiser that they've been played for their stupidity and xenophobia just as he's trying to play the left with all the pro-gay anti-gun opinions.
>>77373028
It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
>>77373028
On the one hand, I can understand where he's coming from. As a citizen - especially a law-abiding one - you just assume that the law is doing the right thing. That the FBI, when it investigates people, knows what they're talking about and why they're doing it.
On the other hand, I'm disappointed. I'm probably on one of those lists for buying shitloads of ammo and browsing 4chan - whatever their search metrics are nowadays - and this would possibly prevent me and others who have no idea that they're on any sort of list from getting a firearm.
Shit fucking sucks bro.
>>77378467
Again, terrorists don't have any rights, therefore due process does not apply to them. Where have you been the last 15 years?
Shall not be infringed
>>77373925
This is a level headed and rational stance. Why do liberals keep calling the NRA "extremist"?
>>77378546
>5 shekels have been deposited in your accoun.
>>77373028
>NRA
Comprimising pieces of shit.
>>77378741
they aren't terrorists until you prove they're terrorists
"terror suspect lists" are not terrorists
>>77378437
Sometimes law enforcement has to use their gut instinct. I'd trust the intuition of a 15-year FBI vet over the opinion of a 15 year old Canadian any day.
>>77378207
They're too deep in the cult of personality to get out now. If you didn't come to terms with the fact Trump loves big government really early on you're not gonna do it now. I'm still stuck voting for him but it's a lesser of two evils situation at this point. The real fight for gun rights is in SCOTUS anyway and Trump will play ball on that one.
>>77373028
delete this
>>77373028
Huge Trump supporter but this pisses me off desu senpai. In a few years everyone who uses this goddamn site will be on that list, just one more beta-uprising or /k/ommando hate-crime mascara. I'm now $Blue4Biden
>>77378546
He wasn't gay
That's msm agenda there bud
Islam deflection
>>77378820
are you saying the NRA is bad? fuck off Hillary
>>77378190
Except that is in no way how terrorist watch lists work. These are names, addresses, and family member names scooped up in giant data dumps by people like the CIA and NSA.
Your name could very well be on a terrorist watch list simply because you live in the same country as another guy who talked to a cousin in a third country, who lives next door to a guy who sends 20 dollars a year to a "terrorist" magazine company
>>77373953
This is shit logic. First of all, no shit the democrats won't endorse Trump, when has there ever been an endorsement from an opposing party president?
Second, no shit the remaining two won't endorse him - they're both Bushes, they are mad about Jeb! losing
>>77378190
There are no accusations, as the government has not filed charges against those on watchlists. For an individual's rights to be suspended, there has to be actual accusations or a claim of probable cause.
Those placed on no-fly lists and whatnot are only under "suspicion" for various reasons. Nothing in the realm of probable cause or actual criminality.
>>77373028
oh shit i am now a missile
>>77373204
>terrorist can't get guns
>I really don't see the problem.
SHALL
>>77378836
I know! Just look at that piece of shit Omar; he was totally innocent until he pulled the trigger. Definitely not a terrorist, even though he belonged to a radical mosque that called for the extermination of faggots. I am a #cruzmissile now.
>>77378915
>Your name could very well be on a terrorist watch list simply because you live in the same country as another guy who talked to a cousin in a third country, who lives next door to a guy who sends 20 dollars a year to a "terrorist" magazine company
If you live in a country other than America, then the second amendment doesn't apply to you retard.
>>77378692
You're treating what I said as a 100% solution to gun crimes. Which is not my argument.
This thread is fucking filled with shills. Anyone who supports Trump if he comes out in support of these laws should be hung. Shall not be infringed.
Make a complete new judiciary system to handle this
Job creation etc
New need paradigm
>>77373028
Definitions matter. Federal definition of terrorists is not limited to radical Islamic terrorists
Also, for this to be possible feds no fly and terrorists list would have to be publicly accessible.
>>77378207
Same with trannies, minimum wage, etc.
>>77379074
Agreed
America died in 2012 when you retards voted for Romney over Ron Paul
>>77373028
>look at the language
>MEETING with the NRA
are you serious?
It's obvious what he's doing and it's not taking guns away
>>77373028
HOLY SHIT SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARED LOLBERTARIANS
lets analysis this text for a second.
>I will be meeting with the NRA
So he will be meeting with the best gun advocate group in the U.S.
Now lets think about this for just a moment
does this mean a) he's going to enact a law and take all your guns away or
b) he is going to discuss a way to try to prevent terrorist from getting guns by talking to the NRA
>>77378865
I'm 25, and see
>>77378966
What part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" don't you understand?
Suspected terrorists have the same rights as any other US citizen, and their right to bear arms cannot be taken away unless they're convicted of a crime.
>>77379037
then by your definition, the Westboro baptist church is also radical and its members are terrorists
>>77379055
Then they should approach you and tell you of the issue
And then resolve the fucking issue
>/pol/ are gun grabbers now
wew
>>77373028
>Donald, we can't take away people's 2nd amendment rights because they're placed on a list. They don't even have enough evidence to arrest them, it's unconstitutional.
>Okay.
And that'll be it.
>>77378890
He wasn't gay, just regularly hung out in a gay nightclub.
Right.
>>77373406
I can't wait until we invade and take over your faggot country and hand your leader up by his faggot balls.
>>77379167
Westboro Baptist Church does not call for the extermination of faggots by man's hand.
>>77373608
But don't they already own like six gorillion guns apiece already? Logically speaking.
>>77379167
They kill anyone? Have affinity to exploding?
Fuck off
>>77373028
The subject of the talk is about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list or the no fly list.
IT'S THE SUBJECT, HE DOESN'T SAY HE ENDORSES THAT OR NOT.
>>77379068
Thats how it came across.
Might not wanna use the word "only" next time then. That misled me.
>>77379167
The westboro church doesn't kill people.
>>77379237
>trump is gun grabber now
WEW LAD
>>77379237
neo-/pol/ is full of retards
>>77379267
That's not true either.
>>77373664
>atf
>>77375804
even the leaf gets it, fuck our country is lost
>>77373028
Oh man NRA gonna be mad now bois.
>>77379160
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, unless you are a Muslim aka terrorist, felon, etc.
>>77379267
Ummmmmm and planned his attack
Since 2008
>>77379319
even acknowledging it as a possibility is fucking crazy
i'm never going to vote for an authortarian who wants to touch the bill of rights
fuck him
>>77379318
he didn't kill anyone either until he killed someone. He wasn't a terror suspect and he wasn't a "terrorist" until he actually committed an act of terror
you still can't take the rights away of suspects put on arbitrary made up lists for what ever reason and you can't deny someones rights without being proven guilty in due process
>>77373028
That's no surprise coming from Donald "I suck Jewcock 24/7 and LOVE the taste" Trump.
>>77374569
If only there was a way to find out what our God given rights are?
But then liberals don't believe in a god, other than themselves, so we have no rights.
>>77379319
This
These shills are so fucking annoying. They're over analyzing everything
>>77373204
lets hope the Trump really doesn't understand the massive fucking issue with the no-fly lists and is just virtue signaling.
>>77379366
21 years as first lady. She's a joke.
>>77373953
Couldn't find that tweet but here's some gold
>>77379408
>not a hillary shill
KILL YOURSELF
>>77377974
>>77378064
>>77378391
I understand the selection of who is added to the list would be flawed and controversial. I guess I was looking at it from the supporters' (of such a measure) standpoint.
>>77378564
Checking a buyer's name against a national database. Like I said, this would only work for legal purchases and terrorists could still obtain firearms through the black market.
This isn't surprising at all, Trump has shown his authoritarian side several times in the past.
I still think he will be a good president in other ways, but you have to know what you're getting into when you support him.
>>77373953
Can't stand this fucking cunt. Someone that Liberals think is funny because he is "controversial"
I couldn't care less if Jew Mcfarlane dipped fucking dead.
>>77373028
Terrorist watch list is always very small based on rather strong evidence.
Don't really see the problem, though the moment they start putting just about anyone on the list is when there's a problem.
>>77379462
He loves big government. He doesn't actually care about the problems with them.
>>77379408
You were never going to vote for him in the first place. You probably also think hes an evil racist. You probably believe racism is bad.
you cuckservatives asked for this, the only person to the left of Shillary in the general race will be Trump
waste yourselves
>>77373913
This guy gets it.
>>77373953
>Trump
>listening to anyone but himself
TOPKEK! You truly underestimate the retardation of your own candidate.
>>77373913
>free will
>mind control
Yeah, no contradiction there, you fucking retarded cunt.
>>77374346
He sacrificed his 27 year old grandson for more time.
>>77379555
i supported him from day fucking one
he's always been the lesser of two evils that we had to settle with since ron paul lost
take off your trilby and your milo dragon dildo out of your ass
Anyone who would even dare touch the fucking bill of rights does not deserve to be anywhere near the white house
>>77379237
>europeons being europeons
see:
>>77373497
>>77373823
Blame George Bush and the neocons with their fucking Patriot Act for that shit. As to whether or not we need that law and others like it to fight terrorism, who knows. We know it was implemented as a consequence of 9/11, which in turn was part if the neocon plan to control us. But now terrorism isn't just a government plot anymore; it's running amok worldwide. So ?!?
Trump: "I'm gonna have a beautiful Jewish grandchild."
lmao
