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Just realised we only have just under 30,000 regular and 15,000 reserves to defend a place the size of Europe.


10,000 Tiger Forces + 100,000 regular SAA + 100,000 SAA reserves + 10-30k Hezbollah/Iranians can barely hold 50% of the ground in a country 42 times smaller.


How fucked are we?
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America will protect us.
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Step 1. Go to store
Step 2. Buy Bacon
Step 3. Drive to local Mosque
Step 4. Cover it in bacon
Step 5. Revel in freedoms
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>>77329622
How many tanks you need senpai
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>>77329628
>Revel in freedoms
>implying what you're suggesting isnt massively illegal.
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>>77329585
We pretty much rely on allies.
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>>77329585
Who the fuck would want to take your land and face your allies for it.
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>>77329628

We're talking to Sidneyfags.

Have been for the last 8 years.
Real Aussies don't know what the fuck the interweb is, let alone how to use a fork.

Gotta teach them sloooooooow.
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>we are a teched up whitey nation, not a bunch of squabbling mudshits
>we are surrounded by ocean
>we only really have to protect key areas, good luck launching a naval invasion and trying to march through the red desert
>our savage bogans will crush any rebellion quickly
>we are allied with almost everybody

The Japs decided it was a really bad idea in WW2 and we had nobody on the mainland then.
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Not fucked at all. Australia would be a logistical nightmare for anyone to invade and unlike arabs who still live in a thirteenth century tribalistic society we can actually fight.
We also probably spend more per soldier than any other nation.
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america
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>>77329585
Not fucked at all, so long as you use those men well. The natural barrier of the ocean makes things pretty easy for you to defend.
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>>77330097
>>we are allied with almost everybody

M8. Allying with you drongo cunts was like clicking yes to make an ad go away on myspace. No one takes that shit seriously.
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>>77329924
>pretty much

you entirely rely on allies.
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>ignoring the ocean
>ignoring our allies
>ignoring the terrain

anywhere they could possibly land deserves to be burnt to the ground anyway
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>>77329879
What would be "massively illegal" about sending some bacon to your local mosque?
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>>77330290
if someone wanted to start shit on australian soil there is no way in hell america and other allies wouldn't get involved
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>>77329585
You have allies that ensure your sovereignty/independence, and most of your territory is jungle/outback wasteland, so the areas that would require military fortification are considerably smaller than that of Europe.
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Australia will rule the world.
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Australia is like inverse Russia, probably a terrible place to invade.
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>>77330427
about sending them some bacon? nothing. about covering the mosque, a lot. do you not know how property laws work? not to mention that its probably a hate crime.
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>>77330365
this stuff is all true.

even disregarding allies. the terrain, ocean and logistical factors alone.
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Don't worry we'll send some sheep squadrons to help you out m8
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>>77329585
The Australian Army is not what it used to be. Ever since the retrenchment in the mid 90's, all of Australian combat tested veterans were told to piss off. Now the Australian Army is just a social club. They are not tough anymore, they are a bunch of sissy boys who get the yanks to do all the dirty work. If Australia got invaded it would be the army who defends it, it is the run of the mill Aussie crim who hates every cunt. Fuck the military! They are as useful as tits on a bull.
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We have a little thing called the ocean and American Interests saving our ass
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>>77330694

are there any even natives left in NZ? I swear they're all here m8
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>>77329585

This:
>>77330460

Plus there's pretty much fuck all here for anyone that tries to invade.
>The only thing protecting us are our allies
Its a shit excuse, but we don't have the population to support a larger military (nor the budget).
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I'd kill myself if I was deployed on Australian soil and had to endure days of unending inter-trench banter. I'd welcome the cacophony of artillery fire with open arms by that point.

also

>be australian
>start a war
>send abos first as cannon fodder
>run out of abos
>lol jk we surrender
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>>77329585

Without australia the world would be completely taken over by the Japs by now. Everyone is in debt to us, lets just get some other countries to fight for us.
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https://youtu.be/u-0UHyh5Qu8


Pretty much sums up australias place in the world.
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>>77330917
dont you have to go find a "stranger" to make a porno with? what are you even doing here czechfag
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>>77330124
That's because we have to pay them 3 times as much in order to not have them all quit and hit up the cennos.
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>>77330990

TLDW? literally who the fuck wants to watch a 12 min video
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>>77330917
yeah, going to the other side of the earth to defend ungrateful euroniggers only goes one way.
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>>77329585
You a rape material. A naked white virgine in a nigger infested hood of all niggers that have taken the rape pills to be supper rapei.

Maybe should ask your emu overlords for more protection.
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>>77329585
Not fycked at all nigger, we usually destroy the competition in RIMPAC
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>>77330124
No your not.
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>>77329585
our land mass is what makes it almost impossible to invade us effectively. we have strategic depth. even though we are relying on allied help, dont compare apples and oranges.
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>>77330365
Ignoring that you have to see them comming to even react. God forbid you go blind.

Ignoring that the sice is hindering you too. Puting a huge strain your logistics. If one attacks he brings the numbers and the needet support for them. Ausfailere is no mistery country.

Ignoring that if one wants ausfailer he will take it.

The only good thing is you can happly nuke the outback. Nothing of value will be lost.
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>>77329585
Your closest Allie can only supply 9000 combat troops and they don't have any air support.

lmao.
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>>77329585
Reservist here
Yea this is very true, but you also have to remember one of the primary reasons the Japanese cunts never decided to land here is because they estimated it would take 450,000~ troops to hold this place.

Why do you think we locate most of our regulars in Townsville and Darwin?
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You just retreat to Southern Aus and leave the shithole desert to the retarded people who tried to invade it
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>>77330725
Can confirm. Outside of the SAS, the military is a female-infested booze fest.
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>>77332568
God forbid the chineese russians decide to visit you.

They kust build a airbase or few in the out back and carpet bomb you in to submission.
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>>77329622
:3
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>>77330739

No we're literally 100% white but the census hasn't been updated since 2013

Don't tell anyone I told you though, we're keeping up the myth we're full of Asians (idiots don't realise the ones they see are just tourists)
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>>77329585
The government would probably start drafting people if war broke out.
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>>77332891
>>77332280
>>77331215
>>77331114
>>77331084
>>77330894

So when are you cucks going to sign up for the reserves like myself if you are so concerned about our national defence?
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>>77329585
you live on a fucking island... Every force has to come by air or sea meaning you can pop out a chair and just start shooting while 'putting 'nother shrimp on the barbi'

it's not like they're emu's or something
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>>77333246

Is it like Dad's Army?
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What's with the triggered """"german"""" in this thread?

Australia too white for you?
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Most of the invaders will be killed by plants and local wildlife before they even reach you.
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>>77329585
I'd be sweating it a little.

y'all got the most populous Muslim country in the world off your northern coast.
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>>77330725
That's not what happened. Within the military there was this tug of war between whether we should go "big army" or specialised forces. The argument for specialised forces won particularly after 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan. We're not building an army like America we're building more of a special task force. In the case of open war happening everyone in the army jumps a rank or two and the civilians will be fed into the lower ranks.
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Who would be the possible security threats to Australia? I can only think of two ones that wern't laughable: Indonesia and China.

Scratch that, Indonesia would be laughable. They might be the fourth most populous country in the world, but their navy is pretty shit house. Their economy in general is shit, and they would get no support from their fellow ASEAN countries, such as Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand and Singapore which all have very close relations with Australia.

China's more of a conundrum, but if there was a possibility that they would attack us, they would literally be a world war prior. So the immediate threats to China would be Japan, India, Vietnam, Taiwan and the Philippines. Japanese technology combined with Indian population would be a formidable force in it self.

Then we come to the US factor, who has signed the ANZUS treaty with us, and if anyone were to come to war with us then they would be at war with the US, which enjoys by the most superior Navy in the world by a massive margin.

And even THEN, invading Australia would be a nightmare due to the terrain and the massive ocean around us.
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>>77329585

You should definitely increase military size all round (apart from US Western Militaries are a fraction of what they should be) but the fact you're an island compensates to a considerable degree. You definitely could do with a larger Navy and Airforce though. If, say, Indonesia decided their people need some more Lebensraum it wouldn't take too much for them to land significant numbers in Australia and they've got plenty of people to spare as cannon fodder.
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>>77332655
Ever chick I know in the army spreads her legs for all the boys, and all the boys are such low IQ degenerates that they actually stick their todger into the poison hole.
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>>77333944
If Indonesia became a threat, the CIA would overthrow their government (again).
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>>77329585

Just remember Syria is fully mobilized for wartime operations, we could muster a fighting force close to a million if we had to, but we'd have to import/manufacture a shitload of small arms though.
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>>77333944
>And even THEN, invading Australia would be a nightmare due to the terrain and the massive ocean around us.

kek

my grandfather told me about when he was in darwin and the bombers started hitting the joint

they gathered up all the children in the city and told them to just walk south into the desert until someone came to find them

>our terrain is that fucking terrible for foightin' on that you can just walk away from the issue
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>>77329585
you gonna get raped if you don't live in the country
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>>77330290
>No one takes that shit seriously.
he doesn't know about the spider nuke we are working on
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANZUS
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>>77329622
I got you senpai <3
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>>77329585
You can always ask the emus for protection.
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>>77329735
800
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>>77333850
That's changing now with China taking clay in South China Sea

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/5000-extra-troops-12-new-subs-for-adf-in-defence-white-paper/news-story/6eb78e7723150153e16b98ad22ab610f
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>>77329585
The SAA are also wildly incompetent and dont have the same equipment as you, also you're an island country, the challange isn't kicking your armies ass, it's landing theirs and supporting it in a land campaign across an ocean.
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>>77330645
Any force that lands in Northern Australia is going to get the shit pounded out of it by the airforce while getting eaten by crocodiles and abos.
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>>77329622
This.
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>>77337023
>That's changing now with China taking clay in South China Sea

Not really. Collins was originally planned for 8 cut to 6. Going for 12 on the replacements given the technology, population and economy increases is not notable.

The 2 LHDs, Choules and everything that goes along with those purchases was based on what we learnt in East Timor, China had nothing to do with it.

P8/Triton like the subs is just a modern replacement of the Orions we already had.

Same for f35, same for MRTT. Replacing lost or aging capability.

Future Frigates are 9 replacing 8. We actually built 10 ANZACs since 2 went to Cuck Zealand.

etc etc.

China's rise may have made it easier to convince the politicians to fund the replacements, but they aren't especially aimed at China.
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>>77329585
ALL YOUR ROOS ARE BELONG TO US

CONCEDE DEFEAT AND WE WILL ONLY TAKE YOUR OIL/MINERALS
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>>77333751
They've got fuck all force projection and are used to fighting people with spears. All the wars you guys dragged us into taught us a thing or two about warfare.
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>>77331114

Australia dependant on trade with British empire maritime trade routes to survive, so they fight in both world wars to protect those routes not because of allegiance toward Britain. Same reason they've been fighting in all American wars since Korea.
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Why not build a massive fortress in the middle of the desert to retreat to and hold that position?

I'm talking huge. Place it on top of Ayers Rock. Put it INSIDE Ayers Rock.
Dig a moat around it and fill it with those giant spiders. Noone would fuck with Australia!
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>>77333246
Never. Fighting in someone else's war gets you nowhere, and nothing changes no matter who wins. I'll be going innawoods, eating spiders and roos while the moralists in Sydney, Canberra and Melbourne get the bombing they deserve.
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>>77329585

Its not an attack from an external enemy you need to worry about m8.
When you allow muslims into your country they breed like rabbits.
A decade ago a muslim in Australia told me "another 20 years and we'll have this country".
mfw she was right.
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>>77337780
t. ahmed al baghdadi who voted for sadiq khan
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Didn't 50,000 British troops control 300 million Indians during the Raj? I doubt there are enough 'martial races' nearby to pose a threat to Australia.
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>>77337780
>implying there will be a single muslim left once the Chinese make up the majority of our voting population.
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We are a white country with a union jack on our flag. Also, we are mostly desert. No one's going to fuck with us.
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>>77329585
top lel, contrast this to pre-NATO aggression Serbia who had 90.000 troops
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>>77337981
We would have no trouble removing kebab removers in t-62s and Ak-74s
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>>77329622
You're goddamn right
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>>77337950
>implying there will be a single Chinese left once the race/religion I'm scared of make up the majority of our voting population
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>>77337780
implying we have so many chinese here that if muzzies started acting up they would break out the flamethrowers and make them into roasted kebab
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>>77339733
implying the chinks will give a fuck
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>>77329585
30,001 soon if I can help it
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>>77333850
I know criminal gangs who are better armed than the AU. So basically you're saying our Army decided fighting was too dangerous and our soldiers have better use as Trainers. Great our Amry is now an official Registered Training Organization.
>Aussie criminals have more fight in them than the ADF.
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