>crusades
>actually helping other christians
Pick one
>inb4 deus vult xddddddddddddddd
>>77328331
Go pay your debts you fucking rape baby.
Pay debts.
>>77328331
The only thing you ever created is Democracy and it is a failure, like you
>>77328331
Let them roleplay
Meanwhile in reality...
>>77328666
Well fuck, I can't argue with your trips
>>77328550
>>77328604
What debts? Wasn't it for keeps?
>>77328331
Pay debts
>>77328698
>Implying that Christians didn't eventually win
Christians helped buttfuck Islam back into the darkages by assisting the mongols
>>77328331
pay denbts you fucking communist shit
>>77328666
no you cunt, fuck you
>>77328331
>separate from Christendom
>pls be a good goyim again and defend my ass from muslims
>>77329006
>christians didn't eventually win
Seeing how christianity had so many reformations and kept killing each toher for centuries, only to lead to modern atheism and degeneracy, I'd say Islam won.
>>77329062
>implying greeks are unironically commie except from those 2 serious KNE members in your uni
wew
>>77328550
>>77328604
>>77328666
>>sticky
ad hominem
Attacking your opponent's personal traits instead of engaging with their argument
>it's just banter
>>77329193
>seperate from christendom
you are retard, catholics did seperated from the church
go fuck yourself you mongol, the west did absolutely nothing to help us and they fucking sacked our capital
>>77329247
Εkδίkηση για 1204?
>what really happened: Christianity almost destroyed Europe
Nobles almost destroyed Europe*
In a very earthly motivated move the Pope had the brilliant idea of TAKE THESE CRAZY FUCKING NOBLES AND MOVE THEM OVER THERE
>>77329346
Εσύ τι λες ρε γkασμά; Μέχρι την τελιkή πτώση της Πόλης το 1453, πιο επιkίνδυνοι ήταν οι "Χριστιανοί" της δύσης παρά οι μουσουλμάνοι της ανατολής
>>77328698
The crusaders returned, destroyed your caliphate and divided for themselves your territory ahmed.
>>77328331
>muh sack of Constantinople
If only Alexios was able to, you know, PAY DENBTS.
Oh, and for the Genoan and Pisan Latins Andronikos and your confreres massacred, GIB REPARATIONS PL0X.
>>77328331
>>77329667
>latins burn each other's quarter inside constantinople like the barbarians that they are
>they get massacred
Must've been uncalled for,am I right?
>>77329858
Debes pagar sus deudas tambien, quique
>>77329346
>le original church meme
>implying all that matters, as both the Catholic and Eastern Church revolve around hierarchy and power.
>>77329667
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins
>>77329937
>desecrating consecrated bread
>killing and desecrating the body of the papal apokrisarios
>selling off the survivors to kebabs
Totally justified amirite?
>>77330176
And you got what you deserved, papalcucks.You were literally the poo in loos of medieval times.
>>77330335
So says the Trullofag.
>>77329512
>pi
Stop with your maths, mate.
All of the second pictures points refer to completely different historical events. You're talking about the Saxons, which was Charlemagne in the fucking 700s AD, and linking that to the "Latin Crusade" in the 1400s, almost 700 years later and half a continent away.
The actual crusades didn't start until the late 1100s, it was a DIRECT RESPONSE to Byzantium "begging for help," so don't act like the west rolled over and let Greece get gangbanged by Habibs. It's just that...Byzantium KEPT begging for help, even after the Crusaders whipped ass in the first crusade and helped take back all the land you guys wanted, AND secured the Holy Land. Meanwhile, what the fuck does Byzantium do when the Kingdom of Jerusalem needs help later on? Fuck-all. Don't try to paint the crusades as degenerate, Greek. The irony is sickening; Byzantium, the state you desperately cling to as ancestral, was the absolute PICTURE of opulence and gluttony, not to mention self-interested bureaucratic corruption. Also, still proudly fucking little boys just as you've done for the previous 4,000 years.
As far as the crusades helping Christianity, you're right to criticize the treatment of Eastern Christians, but you need to understand that the Baltic crusade was utterly unrelated to the Levantine crusades of an age earier. The propagandistic effect of the crusades was fantastic for Catholicism, but that's about it.
Tldr; nobody has taken criticism from a Greek seriously in over 3,500 years and I'm very alone in my life
>>77330335
And so we'll say to you Greeks, ein arche kai nin kai ai kai eis tous eonas ton eonon:
PAY DENBTS
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>Crusades were horrible for Europe
>after the Crusades, Europe saw an unparalleled level of dominance and power on the global stage
hmmm
>Cathars
>Christians
>>77330661
Do the right thing and kill yourself.
>>77330661
>charlemagne
>700s
you mean 800s nigger
>crusades whipped ass in the first crusade
fucking barely, only because seljuk turks got baited by the peoples crusade and thought the legit one was bull shit
Orthodoxy is the one true Christian faith!
>>77330832
Not an argument.
>>77330994
obviously it wasn't meant to be an argument
are you dense?
>>77329530
uh we dismantled the caliphate ourselves. we also dismantled the sultanate
also frenchies and italians got btfod out of turkish homeland of anatolia
>>77328331
They helped the true Catholic Church
>>77328698
Kek look up Richard lionheart he humilated Saladin Big time
>>77331031
Oh what do you want me to say instead? That people die when they are killed?
>>77330661
there were crusades to the baltic up to the 14th maybe 15th centuries though.
and the eastern roman empire held back an islamic invasion for 7 centuries, then crusaders helped them out for a couple decades and it's the byzantines who are the bad guys?
ITT: Ad hominems against OP for being right
>>77328331
this is some taqiyyah bullshit
first picture literally describes the first crusade
>>77331262
What did you expect from neo /pol/
>>77331058
The only Turkish homeland is Central Asia.
>>77328331
Th-thanks crusaders!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Zara
>>77331262
>pagans
>true europeans
kek
Worse than muslims.
>>77331618
>>77331632
>>77331665
Je brengt ons land ter schande, oprotten naar reddit
>>77331665
If you love Islam and Turkey so much fuck off to there.
>>77329346
>>77329512
>Communist Bernfags: The Country trying to bants you
heh.
>>77332091
Fuck off crypto-Turk.
>>77331847
Geert won't win shit and Trump won't shit. Why don't you swallow that pill my Frikandel landgenoot?
It is time you stop blaming your shitty NOGF life on minorities and go out and enjoy your life. Drop the vidya games and read some books as well for a start.
inb4 Achmed stole your blonde crush you had and now you are a racist for life.
>>77331887
Turkey is a shithole and I don't have anything against Islam. I have somethign against extremisim and it comes from religions and Political side as well. No alt-right dorritos eaters and no jihadists on my /pol/ REEEEEEEEE
>>77328331
PAY YOUR DEBTS YOU DEGENERATES.
>>77328331
>Christianity almost destroyed Europe!!!
>but then it propelled Europe to historically unprecedented heights of cultural, scientific, artistic, social, industrial, economic... achievement.
Lolmao.
>>77332618
Achievements were a product of rennaisance which was studying what a bunch of pagan faggots wrote about a thousand years prior.Christianity has nothing to do with it.Also, let
s not forget how the rennaisance was fueled by fleeing byzantine scholars in italy after the Constantinople fell.
>>77332618
All the famous scientists that got burned on the stake because of Christianity will BEG TO FUCKING DIFFER my French with Dutch blood friend.
Google Inquisition if you wanna redpill yourself christianity falamanalaman.
Christfag here
Any good Christian-motivation films out there? Finished watching Indiana Jones The Last Crusade and I'm feeling pretty fucking divine right now
>>77332863
>studying what a bunch of pagan faggots wrote about a thousand years prior
Funny.
Tons of civilizations studied those same pagan faggots, but only Christian Europe turned that knowledge into modernity.
>>77332880
You mean the devout Christians who spearheaded modernity?
Like in pic related?
>>77333009
>only christian europe turned that knowledge to modernity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
Muslims did the same(and thanks to them many ancient greek works were saved) until mongols rekt them
>>77328331
Roach diaspora detected.
>>77328331
>>77333208
>this is what Leftists believe
>>77333208
>islamic golden age
>modernity
LOLMAOOOOOOOO
Here: have the full list of actual inventions from the Islamic golden age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world
Protip: the largest number of inventions is in pottery.
>>77328331
ok ahmed
>>77333286
>Venice had more important things in mind that would later lead to the Rennaisance
[citation needed]
Sacking constantinople and forming the latin empire was completely uncalled for
>the end of byzantium was necessary to start the age of european dominance
The dominance stems from colonialism and the introduction to plenty of gold/raw materials into europe.One way ro another they'd be forced to search for more resoruces once europe ran out of them.
>Christianity was not unified
It was, problem is that they didn't want another protestant leader taking power and leaving catholics aside.
>converting saxons to christianity was the single most important thing
Retaking Iberia that already had a significant christian population was more important, same with throwing msulism completely out europe and back to africa
>>77329937
the men that invaded in constantinople were mercenaries not crusaders
>>77330176
>>77329667
Back to /balk/, fyrom
>>77333749
>LOLMAOOOOOO
The fact that you can read Aristotle's work now are because of this Golden Age.You implied that none could actually take advantage of ancient grek texts and advanced, which I demonstrated with that link.Had mongols never destroyed baghdad, sandniggers would've been way more civilised.
>>77328331
Orthies are just eternally butthurt because they were excommunicated from the one true and holy apostolic church.
>>77328666
KEK has spoken
>>77334078
>the men that invaded in constantinople were mercenaries not crusaders
I bet you vote Syriza aswell.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Constantinople_(1204)
>>77328331
>crusades
>actually helping other christians
>Pick one
Your image doesn't contradict /pol at all. The Crusades only started because of Islam. Yes they later ended up following corrupt individual/national politics and being declared against either pagans (in Eastern Europe around Baltics) or heretics (against Cathars/Albigensians).
Neither point is really relevant as the main reason the Crusades are brought up is to highlight Muslim aggression against Christendom in response to the usual historically ignorant SJW circlejerk about Islam being a religion of peace and/or the usual evasion tactic of refusing to address Islam's violence and just going "b-b-buht MUH CRUSADES show Christians r totz violentz"!"!!!"
>>77332880
>All the famous scientists that got burned on the stake
name them
>>77333953
>uncalled for
what is latin massacre?
what is debts?
also the venetian jews only cared about 1 thing and that was money. anyway 6/10 you made me respond to your meme macro made by a retard now go back to sucking cock for 5
bucks
>pic related
>>77328331
We thank the christians for helping us taking Constantinople. surly they are our best friends. maybe the next crusade will help us taking entire Europe.
>>77328331
Well, Christianity wasn't born in white countries yet you see places like Britain, Germany, etc. being anti-cuck right-wing christians and yet they don't realise that the people they praise so much are the people who kill their ancestor and convert them just like Muslims are doing now.
Basically, Europe was born as a cuck continent.
>>77336595
thats bullshit
>>77334078
do you honestly think there is a difference between the two?
>>77334099
>Had mongols never destroyed baghdad, sandniggers would've been way more civilised.
You mean Baghdad was continuously destroyed from 1258 until today?
And no other centers of power or learning emerged in the Islamic world after that?
LOLMAOOOOO
