Why did gun control go over so easily in australia? I would've thought living in the outback surrounded by dangerous animals people would want to keep their guns.
>>77316819
Because they're cowards and Australia media is even more fear-mongery than American 24 hour news.
SHALL
Brits and Australians are grade-A cucks, and capitulated to their respective governments in record time after Dunblane and Port Arthur (both of which occurred about six weeks apart).
>>77316819
Because Australia didn't have a 2nd Amendment type document. People were allowed to own guns, but the people didn't have the right written into a constitution. It was more of a privilege
>>77316819
They don't have to worry about niggers and other violent minorities.
Not a founding principle like it is here, so they have no affection or reason to keep them.
>>77317206
The question was "why didn't Australians resist?"
>>77317089
KANGZ
>>77316962
Also they never shook the subject mindset.
>Yankposting
cringed
>>77316819
They don't share a border with a country controlled by the cartel that the same people who wanted to take their guns insists that they shouldn't try to stop from entering into their country.
No one really owned a gun here except people who needed them and anyone who needed them badly just applied for a gun permit so it didn't really affect anyone
>>77317368
Because the government issued a buy back program for all weapons, and I guess people back in 96 didn't have much money because interest rates were like 20%, so selling their guns to get money was a good option.
>I really don't know the actual story
>>77316819
they have the wrong government
>what they said
And in America, guns are a part of our culture.
It's like making India poo in loo.
Yea, the rich use toilets, and others say they want to. But in rural areas you ain't changing shit. Literally, as it turns out.
>>77317436
This. They have no history of rebellion that didn't end in disaster.
>>77317556
Dude, fuggin saved.
Only Americans care so much about muh guns. Normal people see them as a regular hobby and while peeved don't chimp out when they are taken away.
Gun confiscation in Australia didn't affect the homicide rate at all. That's why liberals always make the "gun-related" distinction when discussing the homicide rate in Australia or any other country that confiscated guns.
They're hoping you don't notice that criminals intent on murder don't just suddenly lose the desire to kill someone, and instead employ other methods to do so.
>>77316819
I've heard that less than half of the estimated guns in circulation actually got bought back. Presumably the majority are still buried in back yards in PVC pipes full of motor oil.
>>77316819
They kill with boomerangs and their hands.
Knives too.
That its why they dont use guns to kill people.
>>77316819
the govt was very generous with the buy back prices
>>77317572
Feels bad, man.
>>77316819
Because Australia is populated by people descended from criminals shipped over there by the British. Their entire culture is based on submitting to their overseers.
>>77316819
Aussies routinely fistfight dangerous animals, so it's ok.
>>77317747
did you have to lift up your skirt when you sat down to write that?
>>77317841
This. There was something like 200,000 SKSs imported in the early 90s, and only a few thousand got turned in. And that's just one model of gun.
If you don't hear about people getting shot in Australia, it's because their media outlets get near-instantaneous gag orders when one happens to "protect the privacy of the victim and the victim's family."
>>77317910
>Government
>Generous
>With your own money that they take from you
Holy fuck it's the subtle cuckoldry that's most illustrative
>>77316819
Because we are not stupid
>>77316819
>I would've thought living in the outback surrounded by dangerous animals people would want to keep their guns.
Applying for a Firearms Licence
Feral animal controllers on a property (categories A, B, C & D)
If you are an animal controller on a property you will need to provide the following documents with your application:
Proof of address
Statement of Attainment for an approved weapons safety course covering the categories of weapons you are applying for
Business details such as registered business name
Contracts from property owners you are providing service to
Information in relation to the frequency of visit/s to the properties, details of types of firearms you intend to use in the conduct of your duties and why you have chosen the particular type of firearm must also be provided; and
Current passport quality photograph.
The maximum term for Category D licences have been extended to five (5) years.
Note: If you are also applying for Category H use, you will need to complete a separate application for a Concealable Firearms Licence.
>wow so fucking difficult my freedoms
>>77317910
Hell yeah, I got over $800 for a G35 which kept malfunctioning (mate who thought he was a glock armorer "fixed" it on time) and was able to buy a brand new G34 with change. Booya! Thanks Government :)
>>77317556
what the fuck is Rand even trying to say?
>>77317841
Yep
>>77317841
where did you hear that?
infowars?
>>77317496
Holy shit this.
Perfect anon
>>77318046
>>77318077
there was also economic downturn at the time, so the money good
>>77318114
I don't remember. Go get a metal detector and tell me if it's true.
ITT grown men cucked by birds and their own government
>>77317132
>(both of which occurred about six weeks apart)
Did not know that. What a coincidence.
>>77318101
"Self sacrifice is commie shit. I got mine, Jack. Fuck the poor."
>>77318088
>Yank
>Leaf
I wish I could be a yank, fuck this shitty country.
>>77317254
That is not why we have our guns
Also put some clothes on you pervert
>>77318318
You are a Yank, your style of posting is the same
>>77318088
Aw deed the beeg bed yoinks het ya lettle feewings moit?
>>77317089
NOT
Truth is, it is really easy to get a hand gun in Australia. It isn't FAST, but it IS easy.
>>77317910
This. The government always has crazy money to flaunt
>>77317984
Cute fake ak. That the Czech gun?
>>77318796
INFRINGED
>>77316819
>Why did gun control go over so easily in australia?
Source?
>>77318061
That is a pain in the ass desu
>>77318174
>economic "downturn"
>not an orchestrated attempt to force you in to submission by trading your guns for debt.
The ignorance of the goi personified
>>77318028
We get gun violence, but it's mainly dickhole asian / subhuman gangs over drugs, or bikies just being the fuckwits that they are. The number of home invasions or street muggings with guns is very small.
>>77316819
They aren't as retarded American survivalists
>>77319105
vz58 with wood furniture. The wood alone costs a lot of money because it has to be custom made for each order by some woodworker in the States.
>>77319192
Pretty sure he means, why did it pass so easily and why did they actually turn in their guns.
It wasn't a gun ban to begin with, just the semiautos.
>>77318051
more like you've been brought to heel.
pol, ignore the anti-gun shills here
they're getting annihilated in their other threads
they dont have blacks
>>77316819
Because trust is lower in multicultural society. Australia was 99% white back then, with a white prime minister.
>>77319324
Which is all the fun guns.
>>77316819
>I would've thought living in the outback surrounded by dangerous animals people would want to keep their guns.
It's still very easy to get guns in the outback, the gun legislation specifically has provisions that offer people living in rural areas much quicker and easier paths to gun ownership
>>77319105
yeah its the "CZ858"
>>77319291
I bought the furniture off some slav in an alley in Vancouver....true story.
Here's your reasons
1. We're white not plagued with Hispanics or more then 1% of Abo's many who are actually 1/32 Aborginal
2.Not many people actually had Automatic rifles and others which got banned. Most places (With guns) just had a simple .303 rifle or a double barrel shotgun nothing crazy are still have them today.
3.Smaller population
4.Many agreed with the new gun laws since you still keep the practical ones for hunting,protecting live stock etc you just can't get the really good ones
More so being White though. Now the gun crime is all Biker cunts trying to act tough and Asian,Lebanese gangs shooting eachother
>>77319207
It's the same in the US
75% of mass shootings are black on black about drugs or gangs
90% of shootings are done with Pistols
The Non-Hispanic White murder rate is comparable to Europe or Australia
>>77319667
Justin is going to have to (((borrow))) that.
>>77316819
>>77316819
australia is 92% white and rural as fuck so they already had barely any crime to speak of
>>77319968
I sold it to a guy named mike, from canmore.
>>77319473
>they dont have blacks
The Australian Bureau of Statistics estimated the total resident Indigenous population to be 458,520 in June 2001 (2.4% of Australia's total), 90% of whom identified as Aboriginal, 6% Torres Strait Islander and the remaining 4% being of dual Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander parentage
They don't say gibsmedat
They pray to the green ant god to wipe out whitey
>>77320001
How hard is it to sell to another person in Canada?
>>77316819
>dangerous animals
what fucking animals
we don't have bears or mountain lions or wolves, just a few birds and giant squirrels that are usually scared of people anyway
and some wild dogs, but you can just kick those
>>77316819
PORT ARTHUR WAS AN INSIDE JOB
>>77319678
>Now the gun crime is all Biker cunts trying to act tough and Asian, Black, Latin gangs shooting eachother
Explains 90% of gun crime, including "mass shootings" that occur in America.
>>77317368
Their national hero, the man based off of Crocodile Dundee, did resist. He died defending his human right.
>>77317833
Gun laws simply don't work. Look at this graph, I remember when it was all over the place that gun crime was "tumbling". What they didn't mention was how it was still twice as high as it had been since the ban came in.
>>77320049
That statistic is all the way up to 1/32
I guarantee you that majority of those are above 1/8
Also Abo's don't have gun violence and gangs that Nigs in the US do
They are comparable to Native Americans in more ways than 1
>>77316962
>not stockpiling weapons makes you a coward
>needing a gun to go to the grocery store makes you brave
>>77316819
They did.
Every white suburban household in Chicago has a discreet nine millimeter in the bedroom, in case of a B&E.
>>77316819
>I would've thought living in the outback surrounded by dangerous animals people would want to keep their guns.
Guns are useless against the emu.
>>77316819
Back then people weren't prepared for the 'shoot a bunch of kids then use their corpses as a soapbox to attack freedom' trick.
Gun laws here are fucking stupid, esp in NSW. Warwick Firearms made the WFA1 which is just a straight pull rifle, but because it "Looks like a military rifle" NSW banned it pic related
>>77316819
Because the urbanized Aussies are just as bad as our libshits on the Left Coast and Northeast.
>>77316819
Gun control is a no-brainer, that's why it passed so easily.
The government didn't confiscate all guns, just semi-automatic and automatic. A farmer can still have a rifle to control livestock and vermin etc. People can still have rifles to hunt. Just not semi-autos.
Even Americans acknowledge there needs to be some limit on what is acceptable. i.e you can't have a bazooka. Well Australian gun control just lowers the bar a bit further than that. It is hard to argue against really.
>>77320922
This
Imagine if California was populated by New England and West Coast whites instead of Mexicans
That's most of Australia
Australia also strictly controls a lot more than guns.
>>77316819
>Auscucks
>people
>>77316819
Aus didn't have the fundamental right to protection from the Gov't/Queen.
Social programs were heavily inherent in the society and the threat of "no longer eligible" for free $ heavily influenced the vote.
Also, no blacks to defend themselves from.
>>77316819
Aussies are cucks
Mostly it just got rid of granddads old shotty or 100 year old 303.
Shit nobody wanted and didn't know what to do with
>>77321112
lol just like california, always the ninja shit for some reason that retard libs are obsessed with. like they watched too many bruce lee movies and think nunchuks pose a valid threat to society. the only reason shit like that gets banned is because there arent enough martial artists to voice against bullshit like that
>>77317368
Because they never had the idea of rebellion instilled in them. Australians, and many of the Crown's anglo-heavy holdings, did not see the Monarchy as tyrannical or overbearing because they were pure subjects. They held a higher standing among the social classes and were treated better than the American/Colored colonies. They also never had a "modern" document instilling a strong set of rights to rally behind, as they were, until the mid-40's, strongly ruled over.
I thought it was because of the Port Arthur mentally disabled guy popping headshots like it was going out of style, a lot of people were upset. A lot easier to get rid of guns after something like that.
>>77316819
Because Australians are peasants who are bound to their King or Queen. As property they are not allowed to defend themselves.
>>77321102
REEEEEEE MA, CT, AND RI ARE NOT NEW ENGLAND REEEEEEEEE
>>77320115
I check to see if he has a PAL card, he gives me money, then takes the rifle.
>>77318499
that eagle made my day lol good stuff anon
>>77320117
australia is home to some of the deadliest shit on the planet kek.
>>77319968
>Pic
Maybe that's what the world needs. Someone who doesn't tolerate people trying to complicate matters that aren't complicated.
Someone that doesn't pander to their bullshit.
>>77321082
>i.e you can't have a bazooka
I've heard in arizona you can have some forms of artillery
>>77318284
>coincidence
>>77316819
Ausfag who lived in the "city" where the massacre took place that saw the gun ban pass.
1. No one gave a shit about guns. Even us down in Tassie who had access to any gun we wanted whenever we wanted barely had any or cared. Never saw a handgun in my life at the time - Mostly people just had shotguns and the odd SKS
2. It was gradual - "We're just coming for your FAL's and AK's and sheeeeeit"
3. They offered you money. Heaps of guys kept one unregistered rifle at home, and took their rusty pieces of shit down to the cop shop and argued for market value on something they hadn't fired in years
4. Farmers and shit basically got a bunch of exemptions - Some old guys argued they couldn't use Bolt actions because Muh Arthritis and the like
5. Urban gun ownership (the majority of voters) and owning guns for self defense was minute.
6. Australians don't care about personal liberties. If you have to ban guns to feel safe, fine. If you have to ban Muslims to feel safe, fine.
>>77321082
>you can't have a bazooka
wrong
>>77316819
why have guns when you can just send your pet kangaroo/koala into battle?
>>77316819
Do you really think all the niggers in the ghetto are gonna give up their guns or that the feds would have an easy time collecting them? They'd have to promise more welfare or some shit.
>>77318284
Actually not a coincidence.
One of the things that's left out of these debates time and time again is media culpability. One of the key motivating factors, if not the key factor for Port Arthur was Bryant's obsession with the huge media attention given to Dunblaine. He told his lawyer the fame and attention that massacre received made him want to do Port Arthur.
>>77317496
This is a factor that /pol/ also ignores.
The same public mentality that sees our government regular tell the U.N. to suck a dick and lock up illegal migrants on prison islands is the same mentality that saw us say "sure, take the guns".
If U.S. liberals want to take the guns so bad, just do what Australia did - "Yes, we're going to take your guns, but we're also going to shut the borders down and stop illegal immigrants from entering and we're going to carefully monitor Muslim migrants".
>>77319158
>>77318796
>>77318499
>>77317089
One of these flags is not like the other, one of these flags does not belong.
>>77317368
That's what happens when your country was founded by criminals being left on an island by the British. They were already used to not having rights so whats giving up a few more.
>>77321536
Yes but he was saying you don't need guns to handle them
Our dangerous animals as small, guns don't do anything against them
Your dangerous animals are large and guns are required against them
Only reason rural people have guns is for feral dogs, which while dangerous to sheep, aren't dangerous to humans really
>>77316819
>Why did gun control go over so easily in australia?
It wasn't a God-given right written into their constitution.
>>77320384
that graph is just as statistically skewed as the bullshit gun grabbers say, though.
of course hand gun "offenses" are going to double when you introduce more laws regulating them with the sole intention of using those laws to enact a mass confiscation, you retard.
>>77319198
He's leaving out the other main reason;
Storage laws.
I'd buy a gun.
But I'd also have to buy two safes and permit the police to enter my home without a warrant, unannounced to check I am storing my weapon properly.
It's telling that one of our rural politicians got busted after the local police showed up and found he had stored his ammunition in the same safe as the firearm.
Yet our richest man (at the time) had his loaded glock stolen out of his desk drawer during a party and police vowed they would find the thief and didn't say shit to the businessman.
>>77321609
You can own any kind of artillery in any state that doesn't have restrictions on NFA items. There's no upper limit on how big a destructive device can be so hypothetically you could register a battleship gun for the same 200 dollar tax stamp as a 20mm rifle.
>>77316819
>be child in Australia
>wake up in government house
>eat foreign owned cereal
>walk down street to bus stop
>give government supplied coins to government transport
>arrive at government school
>watch government tv in evening
>drop out at 15 because 10 years education is the government minimum
>leave home at 16 because the government fund you directly instead of your parent
>move into government house
>attend 6 week government course at 18 in order to keep funding
>or take $40k debt and attend uni owned by collectivist
>everything in Australia is either government subsidised, foreign owned, or the construction industry
>>77322214
> wake up in government house
> arrive at government school
LOL
>>77320049
Protip: To be an Aboriginal in Australia you just need an Abbo tribe to vouch for you, and you're suddenly open to the welfare gibsmedat gravy train.
The sheer amount of blonde haired blue eyed "aboriginals" around is staggering.
Pic related; All their education expenses paid for, guaranteed job placement and lower passing grades for being "aboriginal".
>>77320383
He died indulging in a meth fueled murder spree.
Video related is our actual national hero, and he definitely loved his firearms and putting them to use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuBygHvbBpA
>>77321415
And also because you're more likely to hurt yourself with it than anyone else without intensive training. Shit barely works, I'd rather just have a big fucking switch.
Or hell - a baton.
>>77321082
You're a dumb cunt, that's not how it is, and some state governments ban guns simply because of their appearance, doesn't matter if it's a bolt action if it looks like a big scary army gun they ban it
>>77317089
better version
>>77317368
Howard did go around with a bullet proof vest for a while though anon
>>77322481
>if it looks like a big scary army gun they ban it
That's pretty reasonable though m8. They are really trying to get across that guns are tools to get a job done, not items for intimidation and macho posturing.
I think the community supports this view.
>>77317132
It's uncanny that all the gun control shit happened during the 90's (including the assault weapons ban)
>>77317833
You can see from the graph that it actually did, but not much. The rate of knife murders has gone up though
>1 post by this id
>>77316819
Guns are not a central part of Australian culture and are not a legal right, but a tightly controlled privilege. Nobody stood against the ban because that patriotic compassion for guns is not there, guns are just tools a small percent of people own purely if they need them for their line of work - they aren't an important cultural and historical thing that people feel strongly about protecting, this is purely an American phenomenon.
>>77317368
Because the U.S. fucked it up for everyone.
Pic related.
Even with U.S. and Canadian import agitators, the crown was not going to let shit go south again.
The closest we came was shooting Prince Alfred.
>>77322715
Reagan fucked us good with that ban, shit wasn't even constitutional, but no president has yet challenged it due to either being a) a liberal, or b) a neo con.
>>77316819
Because we don't really care about guns, also we still have guns
>>77319338
>be australian
>don't get shot
>>77322765
Yea the murder rate has gone down, not by a massive amount or anything though, definitely much closer related things to why It's gone down rather than removal of guns
Also other crimes like assault and property theft have gone up
Also keep in mind that treatment for attacks has gotten better. The decline in Americas murder rate is literally fully explainable by the fact that a gun shot wound is not as lethal as It was in the 60's and 70's.
Its a fact though that it is too easy to acquire powerful weapons in the US. This islamist nutjob was able to acquire semi-automatic weaponry without any background checks. That is undeniably wrong. Isn't that fair comment?
>>77317368
They did resist. It was an incredibly unpopular move howard made but he stuck to it. It is 2016 and I walk down the street every night without the fear of some autist bursting in with a semi-auto shooting normies up. Can you truly say the same, burger?
>>77322771
I have nothing to add because I know nothing about the situation, so I'm keeping quiet rather than throwing my uneducated opinion out.
>>77320383
>>77317572
That's what happens when all your rebellions are led by drunk Irishmen.
I've never even see a gun in real life. Can you imagine that burgers? There are probably 12 guns in my entire state. Chance of getting shot 0.
Be Australia, stay alive.
>>77322988
No, because if one of the fags had a gun the Muzzie would've been dead before he even got half of what he did.
>>77322882
What the fuck are you talking about? Clinton enacted the AWB not Reagan.
Wasnt there some massive non-compliance with the buyback?
>>77317841
Put it this way - Everyone had an SKS.
Many had two.
Many got a retardedly good buy back price for the shitty SKS and bought themselves some nice new shotguns with the proceeds. Who knows where the other SKS went to.
Especially in states like Tasmania and QLD where there was no gun registration and the requirement to present a license when purchasing a gun was basically ignored, especially since lots of cheap cunts brought their guns out of the classified ads in the paper.
>>77321190
Nothing makes whites want guns more than large numbers of blacks.
The only country with a similar gun culture to ours (in some ways it's more extreme) is South Africa.
>>77318046
There was a recession m8. Half of the country was on the dole anyway.
>>77322993
>implying people don't still own semi-autos in Australia
>>77323191
wasnt there like 2mil sks's imported?
>>77316962
Typical American fuck head response.
We don't need guns, we don't want guns in our society. We have low gun crime and gun control worked. You American retards will never see that it works.
That said you can still own a gun in Australia, but you probably didn't know that.
>>77323079
More gun deaths?
Git more guns!
This cant seriously be your idea of civilization?
>>77323079
I dont understand this line of thinking. You have to react to the dude shooting people, which means undoubtably he's going to fucking shoot people before you are in a situation where you need to react. How long will it take someone to react, realise whats going on, who the shooter is (in the middle of a packed, dark night club), and then actually put them down without A) hitting the wrong fucking person or B) getting shot themselves because the shooter is firing indiscriminately. And even then, if you manage to react and shoot him down, he's already fucking shot a bunch of people. What kind of a solution is "wait for them to start shooting random unarmed innocents, then shoot them back!"
>>77322882
It's funny, we're no Gunz now, but you guys actually had more restrictive laws in the 80's, with the no full auto thing.
Not that I ever once saw anyone IRL here with a full auto. They probably cost a fortune.
>>77323285
>gun control worked
see >>77319192
you retard
>>77323316
Americans think Hollywood is real life.
>>77317934
If you believe this Cleetus, you're a fucking moron.
>>77323263
And yet there hasn't been any elliot dundees or bruce holmes. Funny that.
>>77323280
I doubt it was anywhere near that much.
But for some reason the SKS was really popular here.
>>77322821
A lot of people did stand against the ban though anon, it nearly cost Howard the election and for weeks he was going out in public with bullet proof vests
Watch a bit of this, for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4WgWYjavEc&t=2m28s
>>77323442
lots of abos using semi automatic tacticool knives knives though
>>77323456
All i know is it was over a mill, and there are still quite a few in circulation
>>77319960
that's racist. /s
>>77323079
You can do both. Stop nutjobs acquiring guns (a good thing) and have reliable armed guards in public places (if necessary). Right?
>>77323541
>/s
get out reddit
>>77323174
Yes there was and still is in some places
>>77323071
Doubtful m8.
According to the public database there are 192 registered gun owners in my suburb - With a total of 422.
And I live near some Bikie clubhouses and lebs, so I'm guessing the actual number is much higher.
>>77317089
WUZ
>>77323526
Check out 3:22 of that video. It's Osama Bin Laden at the gun rally.
>>77323393
So gun crime decreased, assaults increased a bit.
I don't see much of an issue.
You should move to America to be cucked with your overlords.
>>77322653
How is it reasonable? it's exactly like any other straight pull bolt action but because it has a modern look it's illegal? you're actually a fucking idiot, considering it's only banned in ACT and NSW
>>77323316
>>77323398
So? What happens is that the spree killer gets stopped in his tracks.
You guys do know that it is equally plausible with a knife. See: Chink man stabs 26 to death with a knife. No fucking guns anywhere in China outside of military hands, and the dude got 26. In most places in America, that guy would've been stopped in his tracks before he hit 10.
People are going to pop off regardless. The only way to deter them from doing so is promising them nothing but torture and pain if they do go and spree kill.
>>77323456
Australia didn't have a big domestic firearms industry that restricted cheap milsurp imports.
I hope Canada enjoys all those worst korean m1 carbines :(
>>77323782
learn to read graphs retard
what is a linear trend
>>77322481
I think its becuse most people here, including the legislators, dont have a fucking clue about guns.
>>77323285
Your butthurt is showing.
Then again, it's not like Aussies know how to shoot, anyways.
Anyways,
I've been to a firing range, I enjoy shooting guns.
There's a range half an hour from my place.
I've considered getting a license to shoot for sport.
That said, we don't need guns like Americans have guns. We are a more peaceful society, we have less crime and we don't treat owning guns like it's a jewel encrusted golden right like these retard Americans think.
If you polled Australia on wanting loose gun laws like America, I guarantee we wouldn't want it.
>>77323929
topkek
>>77318101
Sometimes, I think people found her so intelligent and interesting because she rambles and is incoherent, so, to avoid looking stupid, they just go "sounds good!"
>>77323847
I read it m8.
>>77323749
Haha I didn't even notice that
>>77323802
>People are going to pop off regardless.
>mass shootings are literally normalized in america
wew lad memes are real
>>77316819
They don't have niggers
>>77323929
funneh memez
>>77322022
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227757/Pittsburgh-zoo-death-Maddox-Derkosh-mauled-death-African-wild-dogs-mother-dangles-railings.html
do you think we can find footage of this?
>>77323929
>using logical fallacies
Did you not see the stickied post?
I can't actually post anything on /pol/ anymore, because literally every reply is a logical fallacy.
>>77323964
I wouldn't mind Canadian or NZ style laws.
The problem is I don't trust my politicians to stop there, so I still oppose them when the question comes up
>>77324000
yes I think so
>>77316819
Because they only had pro gun laws, not rights. When politicians were elected who wanted to ban guns, they didn't have to declare a constitutional convention and get 100% support to remove a civil right. They just had to pass a new law
>>77324001
Gun violence was not effected by the 96 buyback
>>77323614
>have reliable armed guards in public places
hitler pls, you were supposed to have died in 1945
>>77323285
You have to go back
>>77322945
>Be Australian
>Get stabbed, robbed, bitten, and stung
>>77324110
It would only take 2/3 to change the constitution
>>77324136
In Merka, this may be necessary because of all the guns in circulation. It wouldn't be an ideal situation. Guns can have proper uses though anon. Violence isn't directly correlated with gun ownership either Julia
>>77324185
>le reddit logical fallacy argument
masses of australia trusted leftists.
They got prepped for genocide.
lmfao
>>77324294
How do skips even compete?
>>77324294
But you are.
>>77316819
>Australia
>Dangerous animals
North America has more dangerous shit, let alone India which has king cobras, tigers, lions, elephants, and hyenas.
>>77316819
>he thinks they turned in all their guns
>>77323883
Most people are fucking retarded, I think the only way we would ever have reasonable laws is if we campaigned to have similar laws to NZ. Right now our gun laws are retarded, and every time some cunt goes and shoots something up it just reinforces the idea that "guns are bad fuck em" mentality, it's the same as being a smoker, every time someone says something about unfair taxation of smokers not one person is sympathetic with them, they just say fuck you and that's the end of it.
>>77324286
also
>reliable security guards
you do realise omar "suck a cock, get my glock" mateen was a full accredited security guard?
>>77316819
as a commonwealth nation we have a lot of peasent tendancies, the lords asked for the swords and we asked if they could fuck our wives whilst they where at it. they declined given how filthy our women are...
>>77324087
>gun control worked
gee I wonder why you aren't getting serious and thought provoking replies when you include a flat out lie in your post.
Here's a tip: gun control had next to no discernible effect in your country.
>>77324355
Using reddit as an insult is baseless, and meme parroting bullshit.
What I'm saying is, you're a faggot that can't come up with anything better.
What's the solid evidence that I'm "reddit"?
>>77324304
Howard was actually bretty right wing /polackski. Howard was far more hardline against refugees for example than virtually any current European leader, Orban included
>mfw "AR-15 style" means something that shoots bullets and doesn't need to be muzzle loaded
>>77324481
The truth hurts
>>77324491
>close the back door to a smallish number of refugees
>while the front door is left wide open for Wang and hundreds of thousands of his friends every year
>>77324423
Yes but he was on a terrorism watch list. This should've been a red flag. I agree that the US has really lax gun control though. That a guy like this was able to acquire guns without any background checks whatsoever is imo criminal
>>77316819
Because they are cucks. and love the taste of leather and or suede.
>>77324453
>had no discernible effect
>crime didn't really increase much or at all after guns were banned
That seems to fit "working" to me.
>>77324096
I don't mind Australian laws. Especially until we get this Muslim problem under control. Right now the serious Muzzies are under constant surveilance, getting blown up by predators in Syria or in jail.
So the halfwits can only manage to get revolvers or antique pieces of shit.
The criminal Muzzies won't supply them with real hardware because it's bad for business.
I'd like to see the laws loosened up a bit, eventually, but I don't need them to return to what we had in the early 90's, because I can assure you we'd skyrocket back up with the mass shootings. Letting a Muzzie buy fully auto AK's with no registration or license...
The HUGE problem, and what I would very, very much like to see changed is this;
1. I can own a semi-auto handgun
2. I can own a shotgun
3. I CANNOT HAVE THEM OUT AND EASILY ACCESSIBLE
4. Even if that's irrelevant, since the po-po ain't door knocking you at 3 in the morning;
5. No Stand your ground laws
6. Worst of all, no Castle Doctrine
Basically, great, yes, I can own a glock. What could is it to me if I can't use it to defend my fucking house.
>Sorry giant fucking Islander cunt kicking down my door, let me open my two separate safes, load the gun and then shoot myself since if I shoot you I have to go up on murder charges and even though I'll probably get cleared, I don't want to spend 2 years and a couple hundred grand fighting the charges.
Basically...I'd like them to just let us have the right to use them for self defense. They don't even need to change the gun control laws, or only change them an almost irrelevant amount.
Fuck it, not even stand your ground/concealed carry. Just basic fucking home defense.
>>77316819
>Turning in your gun because your gubmint asks you to
Lost 'em in a freak boating accident.
Gator ate it.
>>77324491
you lie stupid dumb leftist scum
>>77324562
Ah I see, you're just a retarded faggot who actually can't get beyond memeposting.
>>77320384
>gun offences
The graph is retarded but the truth isn't far off. The number of gun deaths has remained fairly constant in UK but there was always strict controls.
We did have a flare up of nigger violence in london but the fact that this had a major impact on the countrywide figures shows just how low it was in the first place.
>>77324304
>Leftists
It was our conservative government who did it.
And they did it because of soccer moms.
And it worked, because Little Johnny was in power for 16 years.
It was also why he shut down boat people and illegal migrants.
>>77324609
Yeah that's because it was already decreasing, and at the same rate it is now. Imagine that.
Funny thing, though. The difference is nobody has guns anymore, and most of your other types of violent crimes have increased. How do you rationalize this to yourself?
>>77324686
I see that even confronted with the facts you still maintain you're inferior argument.
>>77316962
>>77316819
Because our government said. THAT'S IT, NO MORE GUNS.
We look at the facts of how many shootings and said alright.
We have common sense.
Post YFW Aussies are cannibalizing.
>>77324453
Actually, it has worked for one very, narrow, niche definition;
No double digit lone wolf style mass shootings.
Guess which crime gets the biggest media attention and gets all the normies up in arms screaming and freaking out the most?
>>77324598
>Look at muh guns and how manly it make me look!
Sounds like you Americans have a case of "small penis syndrome".
That's why you love guns and drive big ass gas guzzling trucks.
Americans confirmed for small cocks.
>>77324790
It's not cannibalizing, it's a cleansing.
>>77316819
Because Australia is a land of betas that are just a bunch of descendants of prisoners.
The USA on the other hand, are descendants of people that would rather die on their feet than live on their knees. Well, about 35% of the USA fought for freedom, Bernie and Hillary cucks are descendants of the other 65%.
It didn't.
You have no idea how fierce the debate was. Howard pushed through his legislation under fire - his own party was trying to eat him alive for pissing off their base - but he got it through and people didn't have a choice.
>>77324739
>conservative government
you mean leftist conservative government?
dont lie
yous are commies and commie enablers over there.
we know your dirty little secret you red harlot.
>>77324775
Woah you're such an intellectual, govt knows best, right?
>>77316819
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>>77320383
Not this shit again. That asshat was a murderer high on meth who fired on cops coming to arrest him for said murders. Stop with this bullshit revisionist propaganda.
>>77324762
I asked for proof of me being reddit. you reply with logical fallacies looking like a retard.
And my argument is inferior?
You should have been aborted.
>>77324841
Stop projecting about your small cock.
>>77324643
He doesn't lie. Howard was a conservative BUT he had to enact populist measures because his economic policies made normies cry.
So whatever issue that was essentially unimportant to him that smelt like it would win votes would go into play.
>Mass shooting made people freak out?
Ban guns.
>Poor migrants causing crime?
Ban fugees.
Which allowed him to basically turn us into Nu-Singapore and import a ton of the Chinese middle class and smash the unions etc.
>Well, damn, I mean...I know my wages are dropping - But at least I'm not getting shot at the mall and those Vietnamese kids aren't selling heroin at the train station anymore.
>>77324845
Fair enough.
>>77321112
>prohibited
>a fucking laser pointer
This can't be real
>>77324408
Wife is aussie so I have a spousal visa in my back pocket. One day I thought "maybe I'll get into cap and ball since surely they're easier to own than a regular firearm down under and serve as an easy way to participate in the fine sport of target shooting."
Nope. .44 caliber = vest piercing cop killer, .58>.50, don't want people shooting down helicopters now do we?
>>77324841
Well yeah, women with pistols for self protection tend to have small or nonexistent cocks, m8
90% of our population are as timid as the UK. They will let the government trample all over them.
It's fucking pathetic.
I posted this in the other gun thread, but I've got a few guns. Took ages to get them, permits, licenses and such. This is my favourite. I go hunting with it every couple weeks.
>>77316819
Abbos aren't that dangerous OP
>>77324591
The Chinese aren't anywhere near as bad tho m8
>>77324841
Says the faggot who tries to compare something with a cock. you must either be deprived or something . but you just sound like you are jealous
>>77325006
Ughhh..
FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR CANCEROUS SHITHOLE NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH YOUR LIBERAL IDEOLOGY FUCKWIT
>>77325041
The evidence is there, small penis American.
Nothing you say can't avoid this.
>>77324825
That's true. I heard you guys get seriously cucked by fear mongers and sensationalist media, even more than us. If only you guys had the same approach as us, which is to get more guns.
>>77324936
No, he was conservative.
That was the point - He broke the very long run of borderline communist governments we had.
Then set about dismantling the unions (their power base).
Which made him hugely unpopular. So he went in hard with the gun bans and other populist programs (which is why the left still cry and moan about him to this day despite the fact that he took us out of recession and into prosperity for a time).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxFiN62tGts
Well if you live in the bush you'd need a gun and still have a gun. We cant trust them fucking aborinemus
>>77325088
Yeah... we need artillery strong enough to overthrow a tyrannical government... that's the whole point of he second amendment. It's the most important amendment because it's protects the other amendments, especially the first amendment. Look what happened to Western Europe after they gave up their guns, now everything is hate speech and you'll go to prison for saying anything.
>>77325139
It's a classic case of "small penis syndrome"
Big cliche "manly" things to compensate for that tiny willy.
Looks like the post triggered a lot of you small cocks.
>>77325140
What was my liberal ideology?
Kill yourself, your arguments are pure shit.
>>77325304
Please stop you are so cringy i swear to god
>>77318046
>canada shitposting about things they don't know about
just another day
>>77325304
Is this really what you've resorted to after getting your ass thoroughly blasted?
>>77318061
literally this
>>77325304
I sure hope you don't show this fixation with dicks in real life, you might just find yourself purged by your local moderate Islamists
>>77325380
>Is this really what you've resorted to after getting your ass thoroughly blasted?
citation needed faggot.
>>77325368
>What was my liberal ideology?
oh i just love it when someone spews out some bullshit and turns around and says "WHAT DID I DO?"
>>77325186
Well, our media is basically Rupert Murdoch.
Back then it was Murdoch and Packer. They literally made or broke governments.
Whatever they wanted, they got.
If Howard said;
>Can I get some votes from banning guns?
Then the entire media (and this pre-net essentially) would be wall to wall JOHN HOWARD SAVES US FROM CERTAIN DEATH! MASS KILLERS ROVING THE STREETS IN HUGE NUMBERS! THEY CAN'T BE STOPPED!
Like I said, it goes both ways though. Just this morning we threw out another Muslim preacher who has put on his traveling Kill Whitey show in the U.K. and U.S. with freedom.
