ITT: We post memes and discuss how retarded creationism is. Seriously, how can anyone believe this horseshit?
Because
>nothing
>blow up into something
>and that something turned into dinosaurs
>who died
>and some animals
>evolved into us
Is so much better right?
>>77316659
Everything needs to be created.
>>77316659
aalewis go back to plebbit
>>77316876
>Canadian
Read this leaf
>>77316992
Ok
>>77317051
>New Zealand
>Reddit accusation
Fuck off normie
>>77317298
For leafy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_history_of_life
>>77317298
Read what?
>>77316876
all that shit happening over 15 billion years is easier to believe than 6 days.
>>77317339
Read this
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-1/
>>77317377
The earth isn't that old so it's impossible
>>77317377
>Not a metaphor
The time taken by God to get the universe created was summarized into a week, to correlate with the sabbath.
>>77317513
It isn't a metaphor, stop this meme
>>77317612
This is a long shot but,
...Joe? Is that you?
>>77317612
yes it was. a day for god could be millions of years for us.
>>77317457
>The earth isn't that old so it's impossible
you were talking about the big bang as well, moron.
>Everything in the holy texts I find stupid is a metaphor
>the rest is true because I said so
>>77316659
refute this nigga
>>77317743
The age of the earth and the age of the Universe are not mutually exclusive.
>>77317457
>Read Genesis
Already read it. Was the most boring read EVER. How much of a retard do you have to be to take it as actual history? Read similar mythology it all sounds the same
>>77317714
No
>>77317736
No it's not, this is why Christianity is dying. If genesis was a metaphor then is god a metaphor also? Was anything in the bible real?
>>77317743
Either way it never happened
>>77317763
THIS! Just say you're an atheist
>>77316876
Not believing in God doesn't necessarily mean believing in anything else.
What did they mean by this?
>>77317880
That's just your opinion
>>77317880
>read it in English
>can only speak one language
>ignorant of history
>ignorant of everything
>seems to be okay with this
>is okay with not knowing
>>77317912
Maybe they meant to gas all you Austrian shitposting fucks? But for real everybody discusses religion on here. Who cares?
>>77317891
I'm actually agnostic
pretty sure LEAF is just trying to out-shitpost aussieland again.
>>77318021
Ok
>>77318027
>Ignorant of history
How so.
>>77318110
I didn't mean you specifically, I meant when people say so and so is just a metaphor, who are you to decide that? Why that specific part?
>>77318167
No I'm not, I'm a Christian
So you fags really get together to talk about your lack of beliefs? Or is this a slide thread?
>>77317891
>If genesis was a metaphor then is god a metaphor also?
No, and I don't know why you make that assumption.
>Was anything in the bible real?
It depends on what you're talking about. The Bible is a collection of stories, poems, historical accounts, etc. not just a chronological depiction of historical events.
>>77318244
i thought Canada was supposed to be a first world country?
>>77318213
It's demonstrably a metaphor because none of it happened. There's a reason none of your views are taken seriously by any scientific center.
>>77318306
>Dipshit can't even read the title
Read the title nigga
>Creationism edition
We're here to see the freakshow AKA creationists
>>77318348
Genesis happened, you don't have to believe it but it did
>>77318430
>center
You can keep denying it all you want, it won't change the fact that it happened
>>77318483
>Genesis happened, you don't have to believe it but it did
I won't.
>>77318573
>>77318573
>You can keep denying it all you want, it won't change the fact that it happened
This is what I say to you about evolution
>>77318483
*Citation needed
>>77318190
You tell me. We have roughly 6000 years of recorded history. Do you mean to say you have a great understanding of history? Don't lie.
>>77318768
There's zero evidence evolution happened, even scientists don't believe it they it say it's a theory, a theory with zero evidence if back it up.
And here's your source
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-1/
>>77318826
What a coincidence that we have 6000 years of recorded history, and the earth is around 6000 years old also
>>77318847
you can't be serious
>>77318847
>babby can't into scientific terminology
>>77318826
Fair understanding. Obviously I'm not sitting over here acting like a fucking scholar who knows everything about every civilization ever.
>>77318847
>Just a theory
A theory is a fact in science leaf
http://necsi.edu/projects/evolution/evidence/evidence_intro.html
>>77319051
Sorry cretard we have drawings older than that
http://www.livescience.com/48199-worlds-oldest-cave-art-photos.html
>>77319092
I am
Incoming Christfags REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77319224
educate yourself my dude
>>77319214
Then how come these theories need to be updated every decade?
They're wrong that's why
>>77319334
I read my bible every day
>>77319295
>Take common sense
>Brand it as Satanism
Okay.
>>77319339
They undergo revisions, but the theory is still the same just alterations of minor details. Are you sure you're not baiting?
>>77319381
you're no better than mohammad who thinks the earth is flat cause the quaran says so.
>>77319214
The more you learn to closer you will come to believing in God.
>>77319491
The earth is not flat and the Qu'ran doesn't say that either.
>>77319295
The bible says rapists should be put to death
>>77319465
I can't lie it's a sign, no I am not baiting.
>>77319491
Islam is a satanic cult
>>77319702
>the Qu'ran doesn't say that either
It does, my dear friend abdul
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Flat_Earth_and_the_Quran
> Criticizes the world's biggest larp(s) based on world's of the oldest works
> larp shitty modern works instead
Atheism
>>77316659
There is no true explanation of creation. or at least confirmed.
>>77319616
What's convinced you of belief in the Christian God?
While atheists have no problem mocking young earth creationists, the majority of us will not even consider the possibility that race differences could go more than skin deep.
>>77319949
>the majority of us will not even consider the possibility that race differences could go more than skin deep.
Save it for the next "Nigger hate thread"
>>77316659
Its funny how atheists are the most "progressive" people on the planet and deny science's basic principle of survival of the fittest and the practicality of both eugenics and population control as the greatest tools for human advancement and evolution.
>>77319923
Many things. Many steps are necessary. First you have to come to believe a God could exist. If you aren't there yet nothing will change your mind. After that though, Jesus is the one who convinced me.
>>77319949
>>77320181
Since the second half of the 20th century, many anthropologists have rejected the notion of race as having any validity in the study of human biology.
>>77320422
And all of them are liars. So what?
>>77320181
>>77320422
thanks for proving my point
>>77318244
why are you on 4chan? are you hiding in the closet like all those mormons lately filling up your mind with filth?
>>77320399
>First you have to come to believe a God could exist. If you aren't there yet nothing will change your mind
Whoa whoa. You have to convince me of that first. Besides that's an irrelevant question.
>Jesus convinced me
I read the Gospels and was bored to tears. Can you give me some Jesus juice to convince me.
>>77320670
I would discuss if it were on an actual race thread. However I agree with Italian anon
>>77320776
I don't think we have Mormons in Canada, and I just enjoy coming here for discussion. I go on /v/ sometimes and /fit/ but I don't really like that they're gay so I don't go there often.
You can have decent discussions on /pol/ I don't just post in Christian threads
>>77316659
It's only slightly less retarded than believing a sky wizard made you.
>>77320877
It's an evolution thread and you are claiming that human evolution magically stopped the exact instance some humans left africa and that neanderthal genes have no influence whatsoever
and the arguments of these anthropologists the italian referenced to basically boil down to semantics and
>ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>77320877
I don't have to convince you of anything. I'm not obligated to be your baby sitter. If you want to know something, find it out. Unless you are incapable of doing such a thing? I'm sure you are not.
>>77321015
you are still filling your mind with filth - is that really what god want's you to do? fat shaming is quite a thing on fit and pol is full of satirical racism. I won't judge you but perhaps you should rethink it.
>>77316659
I am a Christian but I think it would be funny if you called yourself The Worlds Oldest Religion on your OP from now on, I think the trolling would be hilarious.
>>77321320
Typological and hierarchical models of race have increasingly been rejected by scientists in favour of models of societal development based on geographical origin.
>creationism
>god created everything directly by hand, including humans
>therefore specifically created humans to be able to breed at 12~ years old
Shouldn't creationists support pedophilia then? I mean to denounce pedophilia would be the same as denouncing your god's own intended creation/design. I mean I guess it would explain all the pedo priests, as they are supposed to be the religious authorities it makes sense that they acknowledge and accept god's design. Any christcucks here care to explain yourselves?
>>77321422
I don't like the sexually explicit photos posted here so I hide those posts, but if you ignore those threads you can find good information on fitness that has helped me personally. Fat shaming isn't exactly a bad thing though, to be fat is to destroy Gods creation, it's important we take care of our bodies. It's a bad thing I suppose to bully people but it's different from shaming, I don't agree with their bullying though.
Racism is just being realistic, I understand /pol/ wants blacks lynched and stuff which isn't right but there's nothing wrong with saying the average black is usually fitter and the average white is usually more intelligent. That's how God made us
>>77321699
The body is too small usually to be able to safely give birth at that age, they might be capable of it but it doesn't mean they should.
The children are up late tonight, aren't they?
>>77321858
What does that have to do with god's own intended design? Right now you're imposing your own human opinion on why god's design is flawed and shouldn't be adhered to. Are you some kind of heretic?
>>77322027
God's design was for no one to have sex unless they were bound to each other.
ХУЙ
>>77322027
It's not flawed and I didn't say it's flawed. This process starts when they start to go through puberty, which is when they go from being a girl to being a woman and can safely have children.
Creationism might be wrong, but not knowing there is a creator is retarded.
Literally 17 year olds and redditors in here thinking that science can't be the observation of God's work.
>>77317298
Take your own life, please.
>>77322195
I would assume 'no sex until marriage' is still a thing among religious communities.
>>77322364
With modern medicine a 12 year old would be guaranteed to safely have children via C-section, if not just naturally anyway. So shouldn't people like you be rejoicing that god's design can now be fully enjoyed and be protesting for pedo rights?
My ex turned into a fundamentalist crazy and believed that everything in the bible was completely literal. I guess she always thought that way but I never realized how stupid she really was. Anyway, the only way I sort of accept the bible version of creation is when taken as a metaphor, that each "day" equated to millions of years. Anyone who believes it was literally 6 days is a confirmed low IQ subhuman.
>>77321586
And why? Could it be an attempt to restore a ruined image after WW2? Aren't they purposely ignoring evidence of brain differences and refusing to research in this direction? Isn't it objectively clear to anyone with eyes that there are physiological race differences that go far beyond skin color to anyone who has eyes?
>>77322675
A C section goes against what God had intended for women when they give birth
>>77322703
She doesn't sound crazy, she actually sounds very intelligent. The bible did happen it's the truth
>>77322703
>Having relationships
If it was really made in six days, how would you know?
Were you there, my man?
Could god have put fossils and stars and other evidence of the "earth is billions of years old" theory there to ruse us?
If the earth was actually created 5 minutes ago, how could you prove otherwise pham?
>>77316659
The problem is that the Jews conflated their creation myths with a Greek understanding of History.
>>77318244
You realize the Old Testament is written by old Jews?
>>77322921
Nah she was dumb AF. Same as you desu senpai. Please don't reproduce.
>>77322921
Do you have a bible citation for that?
In any case you could also argue that god intended 12 year old pregnancies to carry risk so what's the problem? Why support human laws which go against god's will?
>>77319295
This is the most ill represented verse in the bible. Think about the times. People wernt marrying for "love" they were marrying to find someone to take care of you and procreate. This verse basically says "You raped her? You took her innocence? Well now you have to marry her and take care of her as long as you live".
It wasnt about "oppression" it was about righting a wrong.
>>77322808
>And why? Could it be an attempt to restore a ruined image after WW2?
It started well before that, since the discussion about the ancient egypt rulers race started.
>Aren't they purposely ignoring evidence of brain differences and refusing to research in this direction?
But they don't, I think you're misunderstanding the whole situation
>Isn't it objectively clear to anyone with eyes that there are physiological race differences that go far beyond skin color to anyone who has eyes?
Ofc but the social and cultural fabric in which they're raised is way more important that the race itself. There're many variables, genes are just one of them.
>>77322964
What's wrong with that? All Christians were Jews at one point, we split off though, they have some things right but I believe Islam also believes in Genesis, which makes sense because it happened.
>>77323006
I'll have as many kids as I can afford :)
>>77323111
>bible laws are time-dependent
So how come jesus hasn't dropped by to give us a 2016 update on outdated bible laws? Could it perhaps be that the book and everything in it was written by a bunch of sandniggers a couple thousand years ago?
Is the Bible mythology kino?
>>77323084
>“I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing;
in pain you shall bring forth children,
yet your desire shall be for your husband,
and he shall rule over you.”
It's in genesis 3:16
Stop trying to justify your sick fantasies, a 12 year old girl cannot make a good mother when she herself is still a child
>>77322949
>implying God gives a fuck about any of us
I'm not denying any sort of higher power, but yall seriously overestimate your importance in the overall scheme of things. Just admit you were swindled by Jews and stop trying to block humanity's progress because science doesn't fit your beliefs.
>>77323401
>block progress
Are you insinuating that degeneracy is "progress"?
Care to illustrate something that Catholicism has ""blocked"" in the last 20 years that wasn't literally faggot marriage and infant murder?
>>77323084
Do you have a Bible citation for God wanting us to fuck little girls?
You don't even realize how stupid you sound.
>>77323371
What does that have to do with god intending for 12 years olds to be able to bear children? You constantly keep failing to address the argument here. Am I hitting a nerve?
>>77323585
Embryonic stem cell research
>>77316659
/pol/ is a Christian board, fedora tipper.
Go back to plebbit.
>>77319295
Wait...
To find out if they reciprocate your sexual advance, don't you have to first make a sexual advance?
>>77323356
It's a misunderstanding, the bible says this
>28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
>29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.
Basically, if you sleep with a virgin and you're discovered you pay the father and you have to marry the woman.
>>77323636
Okay, so you're shitposting. I already answered this question I'm not going to keep repeating myself to you
>>77323622
I don't need one? Creationism implies god intended for 12 year olds to get fucked and breed, so you christcucks need to prove otherwise.
>>77323356
He already did. He established the new covenant with the new testament.
>>77323909
Because he didn't, they can give birth after their period but that doesn't mean they can their hips aren't wide enough it's dangerous. In theory yes but in practice it's very dangerous, clearly if their body isn't designed for it they shouldn't.
The period is just a side effect of puberty which means soon they will be able to give birth, it's not a sign that you should get her pregnant, it's a sign that soon she will be ready to start a family because she is going through puberty.
>>77324153
Saying Islam is a religion is like saying the KKK is a religion
>>77316659
>Atheism General
>Shitposting and memes containment center
>>77324066
>God designed pregnancy so that it harms children
Why? Would an intelligent designer not either delay the ability to bear children until it is safe or make it safe for children to be pregnant?
>>77316659
>School is over
>Summer is here
>Suddenly atheist threads on /pol/
Really makes you think
>Jews are promoting atheism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVC1gZInxQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LhabQJ_-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NQOnjswuFI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/the-jewish-thinker/.premium-1.669381
http://www.shj.org/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/secular-humanistic-judaism-rejecting-god/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/must-a-jew-believe-in-god/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/atheist-jews-judaism-without-god_n_978418.html
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/september-october-2014/humanist-living/jewish-atheists-and-koufax-jews
https://secularpolicyinstitute.net/numbers-the-rise-of-jewish-atheists/
>>77324362
Did you ignore what I wrote?
>>77323995
Damn I missed the news was it on CNN?
>>77324066
>they can get pregnant at 12
>but god didn't intend for this
So...not so intelligent design? Isn't everything supposed to be according to god's plan and will? Which is it?
>>77324222
The KKK is made up primarily of Christians who believe what they're doing goes along with God's plan.
>>77316659
what did they feed the lions
>>77324511
And Muslims believe their doing Gods plan also
Poking fun at the feeble minded is a pass time only for the slightly less feeble minded
>>77324443
Your designer is not intelligent at all and he's sending mixed signals as evidenced by how hot children are.
>>77324502
I am going to repeat myself one last time for you, we are NOT meant to get pregnant at that age BECAUSE our bodies were NOT designed for it yet. We have periods as a side effect of puberty which after it's finished it's safe to give birth.
You can live in a half built house, but is it safe?
>>77324622
This is a prime shitpost. I feel honored to witness it.
>>77324765
I'm not going to talk to disgusting people like you
>>77324670
And that's why religion just causes problems in the world.
>>77324837
baited for this EXACT reply (by God because it's all part of his plan)
>>77324928
What problems has Christianity caused?
Are you angry that we protest the murder of children?
That we are against the sexualisation of our society?
>>77325053
You want people to acknowledge how disgusting you are? Then I suggest you go to your local police station and tell them you think children are hot.
>>77324783
I am going to repeat myself one last time for you,
>they can get pregnant at 12
>but god didn't intend for this
Which is it? If 12 year olds were truly not meant to be impregnated then god wouldn't have made it so, but he did. And yet this design choice also puts children at more risk than adults. Why? I know "god works in mysterious ways" is supposed to be one of the christcuck mottos so shouldnt it be just that? That you can't understand why god would make it this way with your puny human mind but you should just accept it and embrace it anyway?
>>77325086
Christianity says that every one of the one billion 55 IQ subsaharan Africans has an eternal soul and is going to be teleported to heaven or hell dimension.
its completely universality and almost all christian denominations and churches support immigration. even eastern europeans accepted christian syrians. there are of millions of christian blacks in africa who have rape and murder rates on par with their muslim counter parts believe it or not. they just commit less terrorist attacks.
>>77325204
GOD DIDNT INTEND FOR THIS BECAUSE THEIR BODIES ARENT BUILT FOR GIVING BIRTH
THE PERIOD MEANS THEY WILL SOON BE READY THEY ARE CAPABLE OF GETTING PREGNANT BUT THEIR BODY ISNT CAPABLE OF GIVING BIRTH
YOU NEED BOTH NOT JUST ONE
>>77325323
They are going against the teachings of the bible, God didn't intend for all of us to be one culture, one language and so on. He's the one who separated us all in the first place and gave us our language, we can assume he also gave us our skin colour and racial features.
>watch The Passion Of The Christ
>wow this is a cool story
>look it up
>IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
>>77325340
But it's an objective fact that 12 year olds can be impregnated. Intelligent design suggests god made it this way. You are making an argument on how things "should be", instead of trying to reason why they are this way.
>>77325558
im pretty sure he is the classic "troll" people talk about on the internet
>>77325086
Throughout history? Quite a lot of attrocities were commuted in the name of Christianity. (most notably the crusades)
In a more contempory sense? Christians seemed to have simmered down quite a bit still seem hellbent on the denial and oppression of science as well as the human rights of those outside of their religion.
>>77325167
What would they do? It's not illegal to find children hot and in fact your God designed 1 in 4 men to agree with me as proven by phallometric studies. Your God made 1 in 4 men find little girls hot and he also designed the little girls to be harmed by pregnancy. Is he sadistic or dumb?
>>77325558
I DIDNT SAY THATS HOW THEY SHOULD BE I SAID THATS HOW THEY ARE THIS IS HOW GOD MADE IT CAN YOU READ?
I'm not replying to you anymore, I've repeatedly answered the same question over and over again and you refuse to read what I've said. I don't know of this is some kind of joke but I'm not going to answer you anymore. Read the bible if you need something answered
>>77325720
*committed
And also, what I said can be applied to most, if not all, religions. I have nothing against Christianity in particular.
>>77325720
Okay, yes people do things they believe is right which isn't. But the bible doesn't say go kill, go rape like the Koran does.
Can you blame Christianity for an individual's actions? Not everyone who claimed they're a Christian will be a good person, just like not everyone who's an atheist would be good but at the same time there are atheists who can be good people
>>77325728
So you acknowledge this is the way god made it, now explain why you aren't supporting pedo rights now since they're in line with god's intelligent design.
>>77325897
Once again, it's not just Christianity I have a problem with. It religion as a whole. It encourages people to not think for themselves and gives those that have evil within them a source in which they can justify all their actions.
>>77326219
Do you think this will magically go away if everyone were an atheist? The most evil people on this planet have mostly been atheists it was atheism and Islam that slaughtered so many of my people but it was Christianity and the pope that saved my country.
>>77325728
Your God forgot to relay this information to us though. Not a single line of the Bible condemns pedophilia. Are we supposed to just kill the first one hundred or so child brides in childbirth until we figure out the pattern there?
>>77319051
with carbon dating we can tell the earth is far older than 6000 years
>>77318847
>zero evidence evolution ever happened
topKEK m8
>>77321015
oh, he goes on v
that explains it all
>>77323892
>>77323849
just fyi, if god just always existed and was created by nothing then it makes more sense that the universe just always existed
look up occam's razor
either your god is a sadistic asshole or doesn't exist
either way you're a cuck
(pic related it's christians an 12 y/olds)
>>77324222
islam is just doing what the christians did in the crusades with 21st century technology
gay leaf is gay
>>77324837
>>77325167
>>77325340
>>77325453
>>77325728
>>77325897
>>77326316
god is testing your faith anon
press on for god mighty keyboard warrior
much devout
so bible
very holy cow
>>77324622
fish from the sea ?
>>77316659
Modern atheism = anti-creationism???
>>77316659
STOP NIGGERS WE HAVE A FUCKING SHOOTING ON OUR HANDS AGAIN GET IN HERE NOT SURE IF SHOOTER AT LARGE
>>77326629 →
>>77326629 →
>>77326629 →
>>77326629 →
>>77323849
>(((50 sheckles)))
Have you guys ever considered what religions your forefathers followed before the Christian cultural appropriation? As an example, say the Muslim invasion goes off successfully in Europe and in a few hundred years everyone is full shria law followers. Some may bring up the archaic beliefs of the Christian pagans at that point and lul about it. Just like Christians lulz about older European religions they destroyed. Just a thought. I wonder if we've all been cucked and our original gods are shaking their heads
>>77316876
>cosmogenesis
>abiogenesis
>lumping it into origin of species
>a leaf
confirming creationists are retards thanks.
i once asked a young earth creationist why don't we find kangaroo fossils outside of australia if all animal came out of the landing point of the magic ship, he didn't have an answer outside of "the devil put them fossils there" or "it's a conspiracy".
Same thing for all galapagos animals.
>>77316659
Because if they don't believe it Christians suddenly lack a creation story. despite most denominations now saying it's merely allegory they all still stand by original sin, which isn't something you can advocate unless you believe in creationism. No Adam&Eve, no fall of man.
>>77328852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htjPNiIDp-4
There's a lot of different versions of creationism. My church teaches that there's no difference in an earth created from the Big Bang and one created ~200000 years ago by God. Here's why:
(1) In order for Free Will to exist there must always be room for doubt that God exists. Concrete proof that God exists would interfere with our ability to love him for what he stands for and cause us to feign love for him in the hopes of gaining a reward.
(2) A lack of a scientific explanation for the existence of the world would be concrete proof that God exists.
(3) The purpose of earth is to allow for the existence of humans, because humans are the only creatures capable of freely loving God.
(4) God created the world just before the dawn of the human age, because there's no point in him waiting around billions of years for us to evolve. But he created it AS IF it had been around for billions of years, complete with the mechanisms for the universe in which it rests.
If you want to be really technical, we believe that time only exists when God is present and that God can move freely through time. So God created the entire timeline, but only hangs out in the eras where people exist. Meaning that the time before that effectively doesn't exist as a singular block of time, but rather as an aspect of the present, because God has never bothered visiting it.
Scientific exploration into the nature of the universe should still be encouraged, because it can give us insight into the nature and beauty of God.
>>77328852
also, why have human remains NEVER been found in the same sedimentary layers as dinosaurs or other ancient species?
>>77329729
(1) literally makes absolutely no sense, its baffling how flocks of people hear an explanation this hallow and except it.
(2) literally god of the gaps. Because humans have yet to solve the comsogenesis question "GOD DIDDIT"
(3) no proof, just a statement
(4)That's not even accurate, humans have only recently shown up, the universe existed for about 14 billions years. earth is 4billion, and humans have only existed for about 1million. It amazing how narcissistic religion can be.
>>77329729
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
>>77316659
>>77330367
also, why have human remains NEVER been found in the same sedimentary layers as dinosaurs or other ancient species?
>Implying they drank tea with a t rex, what animal is around you now
>Also the fossils they did found fits in a coffin
>>77330367
>literally
>literally
Lol, not an argument. It's like you didn't even read what I said.
Let me spell it out for you in simpler terms. God exists outside of time, which means he is capable of creating the past. 200,000 years ago God created the universe (past, present, and future).
Of course it's human-centric. Duh.
>>77330496
Why? If you're playing a game of Sim City would you rather start building roads right away or sit around for billions of years waiting for bacteria to evolve? God is capable of skipping the boring part, so he did.
>>77331186
Do you love your mother?
>>77330648
>i have absolutely no idea how the nebular hypotheses works, how gravity works, how a bio genesis works, or how evolution works dot gif
>>77331186
If god exists outside of time than you've just defined god out of existence, congrats.
>>77331380
Yes. I'm looking forward to how you think you're setting up a logical trap for me.
>>77331772
>If God exists out of time then you've just defined God out of existence
Nope. That's only by your standards. A physical entity cannot exist without time. God is metaphysical. He can exist without time or space because he is not bound by physical laws. God created time and space, therefore he must be capable of existing without them.
>>77331857
Actually you don't. The only way you could possibly love your mother is, if you never saw her and all the evidence in the world points to you coming out of an artificial womb. The reason you delude yourself into thinking you love your mother is that you want free stuff from her.
>>77316659
AAAAAAYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AYYOOO
>smacks lips together loudly
SO HOL UP HOL UP
>eats leaves
SO U BE SAYIN
>gets jiggy wit it
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
>eats banana
AAAYYYOOO SO U BE SAYIN
>checks for nearest tree
U BE SAYIN
>collects ticks off of child to eat
HOL UP HOL UP
>licks teeths and smacks lips
AYYYOO U BE SAYIN
>does the ape walk
SO U BE SAYIN
>opens a up a forty and pours some for his homie Harambe
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
>goes to check in with his zoo keeper
WE WUZ
>Pounds on chest
U BE SAYIN WE WUZ
>sucks air through teeth
AYYYOO HOL UP SO WE WUZ
>pulls up shit to eat
SO WE WUZ
>instinctively looks around for other apes
SO U SAYIN WE WUZ
>faints and then gets up repeatedly
SO WE WUZ
>shouts at mirror
WE WUZ
>rips womans face off
SO HOL UP WE WUZ
>chucks shit
AYYYOO WE WUZ
>sets down kid who fell into habitat
HOL UP
>strokes childs hair
SO WE WUZ
>throws banana peel
WE WUZ
>participates in a evolution process
AAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPEEEEEEESSSSSS AN SHIIIEEEEEEEEETTTTT???
>learns kikongo
>>77331997
By definition anything that creates the universe would need those properties. You are just assigning them all to "your god". Yet the same properties could be applied to any force including the universe itself. You could simply say the universe always existed, or the universe constantly entropies, implodes and big bangs again an infinite amount of times. Or you could say another dimension collided with this one and matter etc. poured into this one. You are just choosing the most convenient made up explanation that conveniently fits with your religion.
>>77332087
Fair attempt, but there's a huge difference between the two scenarios.
When I love my mother I am loving her as a person, and hoping for rewards is an acceptable aspect of that type of relationship. But loving God is deeper than that. It requires you to accept the concepts of love and God into your heart of your own free will. If you know God exists it influences your choice to accept love into your heart and denies you of that choice.
I'm sure you've heard someone say "She's your mother, you HAVE to love her" or the same with a father, brother, sister, uncle, etc. Well they're right, you do have to love them because you are obligated to. The relationship we form with God is different by nature because every step we take in it is not obligatory.
>>77316659
P E P P E R O N I
Z O N I
>>77332405
Even definitions are a concept limited by our ability to comprehend the physical world around us. God does not have to exist within time "by definition" because he exists outside of the paradigm you are trying to evaluate him with.
I guess if you wanted to look at it interdimensionally you could say God exists outside of the bounds of time and space within this universe but may adhere to the laws of time and space within a different paradigm. But since he created this universe he must have existed "before" time as we can comprehend since time is an aspect of the universe.
Just because an idea is convenient to my religion doesn't make it invalid. Whatever that means.
>>77318110
99% of atheists are agnostic
it's agnostic atheist
atheism is just a term used to say that we don't adopt any theistic belief because there is no reason to pick one religion over another
>>77328579
Those religions were inspired by fallen angels to deceive humans. Paganism is as edgy and stupid as you can get.
>>77332935
There's "no reason" to believe your hand is attached to your arm either, but that ain't stopping you.
>>77332934
Honestly people who argue whether a god does or does not exist are idiots. It's like arguing if the flying spaghetti monster or pink unicorns exist outside our universe. It doesn't fucking matter what you come up with or say since it is outside the universe it is not bound by any laws or logic we can think of so arguing hypothetical situations is just a fucking waste of time you niggas need to stop and think about this shit.
What you should REALLY be discussing is why you think YOUR religion is the actual one that's true. Since there's no evidence that makes your religion more believable than the thousands of other religions out there then the real question is why did you pick the religion you believe instead of the thousands of others that are just as valid? Protip: you were probably born into your religion and indoctrinated in it since you were young so you have an extreme bias toward your religion. The fact is when you look at it objectively and weren't brainwashed since you were a kid you'd realize there's no real reason to be in the religion you're in over another that has similar principles and morals. Some religions have even better morals than yours.
>>77330367
>humans and dinos
He told me it's because they floated differently and were sedimented differently.
I'm not kidding.
And then he went and graduated in biology and now is specializing in education while still holding these absurds in mind.
>>77333724
There's "no evidence" that your sensory experience *actually* corresponds to real objects, but here you are obstinately and baselessly asserting it does and using that as your arbitrary criteria for judging every other proposition that comes before you.
All I can say is kek.
>>77333115
>There's "no reason" to believe your hand is attached to your arm either, but that ain't stopping you.
That has to be one of the stupidest replies I've heard.
>things that don't exist now disprove creation
I have never heard more shit-tier logic. Then again, I've never heard logic from fedoras or shitlib """Christians""" anyway.
>>77333937
>There's "no evidence" that your sensory experience *actually* corresponds to real objects, but here you are obstinately and baselessly asserting it does and using that as your arbitrary criteria for judging every other proposition that comes before you.
Show me were I even remotely made that claim.
>>77334089
If you don't believe your sensory experience corresponds to real objects then you lack a basis for criticizing anything that happens in the world based on anything other than your arbitrary preferences.
So what's it gonna be - illogical dogmatism or skeptical hell where you're incapable of forming substantive criticisms of views you don't like?
>>77316659
>>77334243
At this point you're literally trolling
Who the fuck believes that asexual, single celled organisms magically evolved so that all of a sudden there were two, sexual organisms, one male, one female, and that they just so happened to mate and have sexual (nom asexual) children?
You realize evolution is like, statistically impossible. You really think there is NO higher power that had at least some input?
>>77334373
And you're displaying absolutely stunning intellectual brilliance and comprehension of the issues at hand on this topic. Have fun with your low IQ!
>>77316659
>Creationism
>Not a straw man created by fundy protty and retreded atheists
>>77334403
>sexual children
No creationist in this thread could explain this yet. Why are children so sexy, when pregnancy is dangerous to them? What kind of intelligent design is that?
>>77333724
You've completely given up on actual arguments and resorted to full blown ad hominem. It's actually quite sad.
I'll just counter your long sad rant by saying that I care far less than you do if my religion is completely true. You seem obsessed with proving me wrong when honestly I won't be bothered if I get to sovengarde and the Buddha greets me on a swimming cantaloupe.
My religion has a single core tenet: That God loves us and the best way we can return his loving is by loving those around us. And I fully believe that. Everything else more or less stems from that but isn't essential to my beliefs.
I follow my religion because I find a great deal of joy in helping others. Given the nature of our creation story (and honestly most religious creation stories) there's absolutely nothing that prevents me from going out and studying evolution, astronomy, or physics and reaching the same conclusion as a militant anti-theist.
Before this post, I hadn't said a single thing about the morals of my religion aside from that we don't believe God interferes with free will. So that's clearly just a frustrated blanket argument you're spewing because your head is hurting from not turning me into raging antitheist.
>>77316659
here is a picture for all the subhuman jews/christians/muslims talking about their "holy texts"
religion is literally santa-claus tier
>>77334403
>You realize evolution is like, statistically impossible.
That is not true. However low the probability is we do not know but there is every possibility that any arrangement of atoms is possible at any given moment with enough time and stuff. And just the observable universe itself is monstrously huge let alone the possibility that it is actually infinite and due to expansion we are slowly losing contact with everything outside our observable universe.
Also it is possible for two sexual organisms to have come from the same parent creating two offspring with the same genetic mutation that made them have sex. Many organisms we know have the capability to be either male or female at will so the argument them being different genders can be answered.
>>77334446
I find it funny that you think you've displayed any more intellect with big words and circular logic.
You're trying to imply there's "no reason" to believe anything when of course that just goes to the 3 basic assumptions in science. Then you try to imply that any reasoning I had is equivalent to the poor reasoning of actually picking a religion instead just accepting we do not know what religion is true if any.
>>77335182
>circular logic
Really? Want to point out circular reasoning I've utilized? Quote me.
You random anti-theist retards *NEVER* cease to amaze with your empty rhetoric and complete lack of reasoning capabilities and reading comprehension.
>>77334657
I did not ad hominem lol. I was questioning your reasoning as to why you pick the religion you believe over others. Also the statement about there being other religions more moral somewhat irrelevant since anyone can believe any religion to be more moral than another based on what they choose. But in many people's opinion Jainism is probably the most moral and selfless religion. Obviously you'd disagree here but no opinion is without bias. I'm saying if you looked around long enough eventually you might find a religion that has better principles than your own but I see now that you believe in the PC version of one of the Abrahamic religions so that's hard to top as well.
>>77316659
>Seriously, how can anyone believe this horseshit?
>so mad that his atheism fad is a minority no one listens to
>>77316659
I've come to the conclusion that people only truly believe in religion if they have an IQ under about 85.
Most religious adults in the West know deep down it's man-made fiction and are only in them because they support the morals, enjoy being apart of the community, need the coping mechanism effect of pretending there's an afterlife, don't want to make their parents mad, want to fit in on an anime website, ect.
Only very stupid people, small children and the mentally ill seem to genuinely believe in religion because these types of people have poor problem solving abilities and tend to defer to their authority figures for information.
Which is why you only ever see people legitimately willing to die and kill for their religion en mass in low IQ shitholes like the Middle East and Africa.
>>77336226
l e l
>>77335371
And you haven't said a single argument to me with any substance other than insults and existential nonsense we all must assume if we are to make anything remotely constructive. Basically you're arguing about the three basic assumptions in science when it is obvious to EVERYONE that it is pointless to argue.
>>77336226
This is the type of post you look back on in 5 years and think "How could I be so stupid?".
Open rebuke is better than hidden love so guess what you are a fucking idiot for making that post and this is coming from a fucking leaf.
>>77316659
>no mom! I want to play WoW with my friends! NO I DONT WANT TO GO TO CHURCH!
>>77336474
>existential nonsense
Logic is nonsense, yeah.
Nailed it anti-theist.
Are you going to falsely accuse the person attacking your absurd beliefs of using circular reasoning again? Oh no I'm quaking from your awesome displays of enlightened intelligence!
T O P
K E K
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/induction-problem/
>>77336634
Who the fuck still plays WoW?
>>77334403
>You realize evolution is like, statistically impossible
your shitty 3rd grade understanding of it is immposible, actual evolution already happened
>>77317457
>links genesis like a source
Are you trying to make the rest of us look stupid? not even most hardcore Christians take genesis literally. It's an allegory, like plato's cave.
>>77336704
>Logic is nonsense, yeah.
Just because you need to make some basic assumptions does not mean logic is nonsense. Your mentality is defeatism and you keep acting like this is some sort of battle. There is no win or lose here only discussion. My intent is not to make you "quake" so I don't know what your deal is.
>>77337058
>need to
Your definition of "need" is pretty fucking stupid senpai.
In no world do I "need" to rely on viciously circular reasoning in order to establish my belief system. Unlike you anti-rationalist empiricist retards.
>>77316876
>>nothing
>>blow up into something
I want this meme to die.
>>77337158
i remember that picture, last time you somehow forgot to actually say how the government enslaves you,you jsut said that it does and that its bad
>>77337308
Thread dying =/= "I forgot to say"
That being said, I've never talked to a Lithuanian about slavery *ever* - I'm not about to defend a claim I've never made.
>>77337158
Mmk again nice trolling and great basic philosophy 101 non constructive arguments.
>Unlike you anti-rationalist empiricist retards.
Just because we need to rely on empirical data to actually agree on basic things in this universe does not mean it is stupid. Holy fuck man get your head out of your ass with this shit you're really beginning to sound retarded.
>>77337460
>Thread dying =/= "I forgot to say"
maybe 'avoided' is the better term because you kept going on and on about how the government is basically raping you without consent without saying what it actaully does to you
>>77337544
I'm not obligated to make your completely illogical assumptions.
"The future will be like the past because in the past the future has been like the past lmao"
Unreasonable, illogical bullshit. If you can't formulate a logically coherent worldview don't expect *ANYONE* to take you seriously.
>>77337618
Seeing as how that thread literally archived before I could respond, I *totally* "avoided" - yeah. The government taxes people - if those people don't pay, the government fucks them up. If I don't pay taxes they eventually come to my house, and if I resist them seizing my property they kill me.
Same with anyone else.
>>77322414
Imo, there may be a god, there may not be. We will never know what is outside of the universe, if there is anything at all
Creationism is retarded, mostly because it assumes the bible is to taken literally. The creation myth itself is not in conflict with evolution.
>>77337741
>If I don't pay taxes they eventually come to my house, and if I resist them seizing my property they kill me.
Why don't you hire a private security agency to fend them off?
>>77337850
I'm a pacifist.
>>77337658
just wanted to confirm you were in fact a troll
>>77337897
I'd talk about how I wanted to confirm your incredibly intellectually lacking and inarticulate anti-theist dribble as being sincere or not, but you'd made your irrationality apparent long before your last post.
Ja ne~
>>77337741
then dont live in a society controled by a government, problem solved, theres plenty of these 'of the grid' little villages all over the world
>>77338087
Because the solution to evil is to move away from it and pretend it's not happening, not to decry and annihilate it.
No wonder your country is a shithole.
>>77338024
>your irrationality
uh
>logic, reason and empiricism are not necessary nor valued for me
ok
Proof for the resurrection of Jesus:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=A0iDNLxmWVM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0tyVdnIU9A
Proof for Genesis being the closest of all religious books to the actual beginnings of the world, presented by an ex-atheist professor:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dsbj7EN1Uzs
Save and watch in your spare time.
>>77338230
ok then, propose a better system, propose a government that works without taxes
>No wonder your country is a shithole.
oh im sorry, not everyone can be as great as the star of the world, i really hope i can live there someday and live to the ripe age of 'i just came here' and bleeding out from a gun wound
>>77338237
>"The future will be like the past because in the past the future has been like the past"
>I value logic lmao
I keep saying "kek", and it keeps being true. Please just kill yourself - you'll remove a little 'stupid' from the gene pool. Can't risk you raping a women and tainting the world with your weak inferior genetics.
>>77338230
t. a pacifist
I'm sure the government will dismantle itself eventually if you keep asking nice and then we will all be hippies in a volunatry society free of hate
>>77338388
I have. Don't tax people - better system automatically achieved.
>i really hope i can live there someday and live to the ripe age of 'i just came here' and bleeding out from a gun wound
Lefty euro delusion will never not be hilariously pathetic.
>>77338489
I don't give a shit what happens - I'm doing my job, which is calling sin sin.
You or anyone else being immoral doesn't change what I'm doing in the least. I'll be here until you kill me. And then I'll still be doing it.
>>77338501
>Don't tax people
where do you think your taxes go to? but ok, lets say taxes are abolished, all government insitutions: the army, public schools and hospitals, roads, fire and police departments etc. jsut stop existing
8/8 instantly better, im sorry i tried to argue with you oh great genius
>Lefty euro delusion will never not be hilariously pathetic.
lets just abolish taxes guys, i mean who the fuck needs taxes right?
btw remind me the yearly death from guns in your country? i always forget the numbers, im sure its way less than other civilized countries right?
>>77338751
A world in which an evil isn't happening is preferable to a world in which it is, ceteris paribus. Lithupoor that's pretty fucking basic reasoning.
>btw remind me the yearly death from guns in your country?
Remind me of the life expectancy in yours?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
L M A O
>>77338450
At this point its pretty entertaining really but why should I kill myself just because people have raped before there's no "logical" reason to believe I am capable of doing that. What makes you think rape is an actual event much less capable of producing offspring at all?
>>77338937
>but why should I kill myself
I gave a reason.
"You'll remove a little 'stupid' from the gene pool."
;)
>>77338860
>A world in which an evil isn't happening is preferable to a world in which it is
yeah and im guessing no social or economic structure at all in a society isnt evil?
>Remind me of the life expectancy in yours?
75..... us is 79
doing pretty well for a country thats not even 30 years old if you ask me
>>77322921
>A C section goes against what God had intended for women when they give birth
So does getting getting an epidural.
Do all women that get an epidural so they don't have to experience eve's punishment go to hell?
>>77339080
"No social and economic structure"?
Are you telling me people will stop doing productive things and trading with one another just because there isn't a group extorting money from them?
THAT. EUROPOOR LOGIC. LAMO!
>>77339018
What makes you think that would actually happen? What makes you think there is "stupid" and "gene pool?"
>>77339205
Chinchillas.
>>77339177
What stops the dindus from raping you and stealing your stuff, when the police doesn't exist anymore and you are a pacifist that refuses to defend himself?
>>77331772
You have no evidence any of those things are real.
>>77339177
>Are you telling me people will stop doing productive things and trading with one another just because there isn't a group extorting money from them?
yup, everyone will make their own roads, teach and heal their own family and extinguish fires, suuuuuuuuuuuure buddy
>THAT. EUROPOOR LOGIC. LAMO!
chill your autism pablo
>>77339272
Nothing. Their loss - I'm not judged for what other people do.
Why do I care?
Why did God make black people?
What race were Adam and Eve?
How did all the different races sprout up from 2 people?
>>77339305
>yup, everyone will make their own roads, teach and heal their own family and extinguish fires
>suuuuuuuuuuuure buddy
STATIST DELUSION *AT ITS FINEST*.
>>77339315
>There's nothing wrong with being raped by dindus.
Okay, you are just trolling, I see. It was stupid of me to assume anyone could seriously believe in libertarianism.
>>77339392
unless you know how to build roads and have the equipment yourself, youll pay to private companies whetever price they want, and no, no one would do it for free just because you asked them very nicely
oh and btw im pretty sure you have never seen a road getting built, its not just some rocks on a field that shit actaully needs skill and equipment
>>77339483
I'm a Christian. I couldn't give two shits what happens to me - the sooner I'm dead the sooner I'm with my God. I'm not gonna stop calling sin sin, and niggers raping and governments extorting are just that.
>>77339358
>Why did God make black people?
He made them possible to stem from Adam and Eve.
>What race were Adam and Eve?
All of them, obviously.
>How did all the different races sprout up from 2 people?
Adaptation, of course. In order to enjoy all the fruits of this planet, it was necessary for God to put adaptation into our bodies and minds.
>>77339392
btw, you forgot doctors, teachers and firemen, police, sewer workers, garbage and a fuck ton of other profession paid by your taxes
>>77339572
Who *EVER* implied everything will get made for free? I'll pay for roads if I want roads - I won't if I don't.
Fucking Lithupoors LAMO
>>77316659
With dicks
>>77339664
>forgot doctors, teachers and firemen, police, sewer workers, garbage and a fuck ton of other profession paid by your taxes
Oh you mean *all* those things that people have paid for out of pocket in the past, in the present, and likely which will likely be continued to be paid for out of pocket into the future? *THOSE* things Lithupoor?
L
A
M
O
>>77339701
With what money? The local dindus took it from you. And you can't even walk without spilling shit out of your loose raped asshole, because you don't have any money to pay a private doctor.
>>77339701
>Who *EVER* implied everything will get made for free
so you would gladly pay for someone else, but just not for the government? fine, i guess you just have a boner for private bussines and i wont change your mind on that
>Fucking Lithupoors LAMO
am i supposed to be amazed that you can make one word out of two or do you think thats an argument?
>>77339783
Even in the roman empire the government was the one that built sewers and roads.
>>77316659
>>77316876
This thread brings me back to the good old days of trolling religifags/bananafags.
I was the "Most people who become atheists do so because they got picked on in high school" OP anyone remember my threads?
Good times. Thanks for the memories OP.
