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>BANNING GUNS WILL SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH GUN VIOLENCE!!
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>BANNING GUNS WILL SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH GUN VIOLENCE!!

Is here a more stupid liberal sentiment?
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>>77251138

Probably, but they hold to so many retarded ideas it's really hard to pick and choose.
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>>77251138
Except it works. Look at every country that had made guns illegal. Zero gun violence.
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>>77251138
That click bait pic

Here's your reply, you deserved it
>>77251929
b8
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>>77251138
>BANNING GUNS WILL SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH GUN VIOLENCE!!


It's a strawman. The libs aren't calling for a ban on guns. The only people doing so on /pol/ are all right-wing conservative false flaggots.
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>>77251929
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>>77251138
>those legs

muh dik
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>>77251138
>is there a more stupid sentiment
Black lives matter.
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>>77253903
I've seen plenty of people on kikebook and twitter say we should ban all guns.
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>>77254588
Any political leaders saying it? Any legislation from the Democrats?

Like I say, strawman
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>>77251138
this
banning gun won"t solve anything, terrorists will find another way to get them
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thick thighs saves lives
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>>77251138
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>>77251138
Virgins cannot possibly comprehend how soft and smooth those legs feel.
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>>77255242
DELETE
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>>77255268
One of life's best feelings, my man.
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>>77251138
Are people that crazed about their guns? Do they have to compensate for their manhood, or maybe they strap a dildo to it and peg themselves with them.
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>>77251138
"Don't run. We are your friends."
I believe the left has not seen the movie. replace Martian with Snackbars.
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>>77251929
That's not even true though
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>>77255242
No one is saying he represents all gun owners faggot. This is the problem with this board, the only legitimate way you guys know how to argue is to put words into the oppositions mouth and make outrageous generalizations and/or assumptions.

All we're saying is, stricter procedures and background checks should be implemented for anyone trying to purchase a weapon, so that in the future Omar "akbar at the gay bar" over there can't purchase a gun if he is being watched by the FBI.

>inb4 someone over exaggerates my statement and claims I want all guns banned and every gun owner thrown in jail

mfw
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>>77254869
Obama literally just said we should ban assault weapons on live TV. Today's it's assault weapons, tomorrow it's high capacity non-assault weapons, then it's shotguns, then it's handguns. Shit never stops. You can't give up just a little bit of your rights you either have rights or you don't.
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>>77256094
That only works for those buying guns in a legal manner.
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>>77256293
Exactly, just like Omar did. This could've been prevented, because if I recall correctly he DID in fact purchase this weapon legally.
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Obama knew exactly what he was doing when he let in all these terrorists, just like Bush knew exactly what he was doing when he did 9/11 and then invaded Iraq for no reason.
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>>77254869
https://youtu.be/W9srhJPq8oM
It's working too.

Anyway, it's about making guns hard to get through that tyrannical "no fly no buy" dream which lets the government ban guns for whoever they deem fit with no appeals or make them completely useless by enforcing 2 round magazines.
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>>77251929
France and Belgium were gun free...
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>>77251138
Just tell them it's too late and anyone is capable to build their own guns.
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>>77256094
Already have background checks Billy. Unless you support banning Muslims from owning guns I think you are still punishing law abiding citizens instead of the actual predators.
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Does anyone have that screencap where the poster breaks down that argument "citizens will never be able to defeat the government, so that's why they don't need big guns"?

I remember it being really good, and I can't find anything comparable.
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>>77257148
Banning guns is perhaps the dumbest fucking argument. Weapons manufacturing will never stop. There will always be a black market for weapons, and they will always be resold.

Don't be a fucking retard and add to the list of restrictions for some wasted effort.
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>>77256928
Rather a few stabbings than hundreds of deaths per year. Because fact of the matter is, if you ban guns than gun crime WILL go down. This is undeniable, no matter how much you conservatards like to think otherwise.
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>>77251138
BANNING DRUGS WILL KEEP DRUGS AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN

KEEP THE DRUGS ILLEGAL SO IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO GET THEM

STIFF PENALTIES

PRISON FOR EVERYONE

oh wait

drugs are everywhere and easy to get

and now 6/10 inmates are there for drug related offenses and we have the largest prison population in the world

this is great!
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>>77251138
Seems pretty true to me. If we don't have guns, there won't be gun violence. It's basically true by definition.
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>>77251138
>DUDE LEGALIZE WEED PROHIBITION DOESNT WORK
>DUDE BAN GUNS, PROHIBIT THEM
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>>77257522
Just like drug crime.
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>>77255242

If that POS doesn't represent all gun owners, then how can he possibly represent all Muslims?
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>>77257309
Well apparently its very fucking effective now is it? When a dude that is currently under investigation can purchase a AR15 the background checks are not very well implemented are they? Retard. That is why we are calling for a stricter procedure to acquiring a weapon.
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>>77257638
Not an argument and nothing to do with what we are discussing.
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>>77251138
>Banning drugs will solve all our problems with people dying from drug abuse.
>Ban drugs
>People still get drugs illegally and die from drug abuse.

:^/
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>>77256094
>I'll shift along with Hillary to attack in rhetoric not directly the 2nd Amendment but due process and the 5th.

Fucking die already.
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>>77257926
Again, drugs and guns are completely different issues with completely different solutions and ways of approaching said solutions. Jesus you guys are as irrational as SJW
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>>77256204
>Obama literally just said we should ban assault weapons on live TV.
You can't own tank, Predator drones or nuclear weapons. You admit there's already a line drawn to limit "arms". The assault weapons - the ones especially made for killing humans rapidly - fall into the category of "weapons of war". The line shifts slightly.

>Today's it's assault weapons, tomorrow it's high capacity non-assault weapons, then it's shotguns, then it's handguns.
Slippery slope fallacy.


>Shit never stops. You can't give up just a little bit of your rights you either have rights or you don't.
We should all be much more worried about a president who goes after the families of religious extremists or terrorists. It violates at least 4 Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
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>>77251929
never visited Rio de Janeiro,right?
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>>77257367

This one?
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>>77257733
In case you haven't noticed, we don't live in Minority Report. Department of State stopped the investigation of the mosque he attended because we can't use racial profiling, ACLU stopped the police force from enacting stricter anti-terrorism enforcement. It's the little liberals like you getting us killed.

>>77257787
Double not an argument. You say banning guns will reduce crime but you bring nothing to back it up.You're not accounting how many crimes are prevented when people know everyone has a gun in their house, and you fail to recognize the largest gun crimes occur in the states with the strictest gun laws.
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>>77257522

Do you prefer thousands of stabbings to hundreds of gun deaths? Because homicides have gone up everywhere guns have been banned.
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>>77258201
>ill start by putting words into his mouth, that way others will think hes a retard

See Called it. Like fucking clockwork. This is literally the only way you uneducated fucks know how to "argue"
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>>77251929
Not true. Also if guns were banned are you going to be the one walking around collecting them from niggers?
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>>77254230
The dog knows...
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>>77257465
You didn't get what I was saying. I was against banning of firearms. The guns were bought legally. If anything Orlando is proof gun laws don't work
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>>77251138
That Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance?
Or that white men are evil?
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>>77257465
I don't understand why it's always an argument of extremes
no, banning guns will not result in zero gun violence but it will curb most of it, like everywhere else in the civilized world
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>>77257522
>if you ban guns than gun crime WILL go down


But murders won't.

>>77257787
It has everything to with what we're discussing.

Banning drugs didn't make them go away the same way that banning guns won't make them go away.
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>>77258621
>That Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance?
This
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>>77256487
>watched by the FBI
that's racist anon we can't watch him because he is islamic.
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>>77251138
I'd ban my gun into her holster if you catch my drift
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>>77258299
>Tell people to give up their guns.
>Every citizen that legally owns a gun is on the system and has to give up their guns because the govt knows they own them.
>Every criminal that owns the gun illegally is not on the system so govt doesn't know they own guns.
>Now criminals have all the guns and law abiding citizens don't.

Whats your solution to this problem you yank fuck.
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>>77251929
Mexico
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>>77257522

Liberals sure love to promote knife crime.
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>>77256094
>if the government says you can buy guns you shouldn't be able to

I hate you statist pieces of shit so much
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I would give a reasonable response but im too busy fantasizing what itd be like to suck those toes
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>>77258299
>completely different issues with completely different solutions
you act as if guns won't just start crossing the border just like drugs do when they are made illegal or "banned'
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>>77258510
I guess you're too fucking god damn stupid to see the unintended consequences of your retarded policies.
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>>77257522
Why not just ban crime?
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>>77251138
Well they also say that we need multiculturalism because it's so enriching, that islam is a religion of peace and that there's a more genders than jews in the oven.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
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>>77258299
>Again, drugs and guns are completely different issues with completely different solutions and ways of approaching said solutions. Jesus you guys are as irrational as SJW


No they're not you fucking mongoloid. This all rolls back to one thing: Prohibition.

You can't simply prohibit things and expect them to go away. It didn't work with drugs and won't work with guns.
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>>77256094
>This is the problem with this board, the only legitimate way you guys know how to argue is to put words into the oppositions mouth and make outrageous generalizations and/or assumptions

Spend a lot of time in liberal boards and groups
protip : They do the exact same thing

This is why politics are for retards.
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>>77258301
Foreign terrorists have no constitutional rights.
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These are the dumbasses that live in our country.
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>>77257522
How do you address the fact that people can build guns easily with tools and equipment available for purchase to the general public? Short of putting cameras in every house your ban would be unenforcable
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>>77256094
I actually didn't think of the argument that way. Thank you for the new perspective.
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less discussion and more leggy blonde women
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>>77251138
yes islam is a religion of peace
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>>77257698
Gun ownership doesn't come with a hate manual, senpai :^)
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>>77256094

> stricter procedures and background checks should be implemented

What does this tangibly mean? What would qualify as "stricter" background checks?
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>>77251138
attacking someone with a knife gives a stronger adrenaline shot anyway
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>>77258299
>banning drugs is bad since drugs come here anyway
>banning guns is good since guns don't come here anyway
Is that what you are getting at? It's a very valid comparison that banning things doesn't stop them from flooding over the borders (or making them yourself.) Especially since we manufacture a LOT of guns so Barry Obama can give them to terrorists and Communists while he turns around and tells us to not get anymore guns.

All you are doing is harming legal gun owners for the crimes of a handful of people. Trust me I watched Hood Life Volume 3 and if monkeys can get a hold of all sorts of automatic weapons in Commifornia then a ban on semi automatic guns for law abiding people is completely retarded. And if you try to say "not all guns" again, remember that if you restrict semi automatics then you might as well have banned every gun.

Anyway it's fucking terrorism, why do the liberals have to change the narrative like this is a white guy who shot a summer-camp of LGBT toddlers? Wouldn't they want to stop terrorism too? Don't answer, I know already.
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>>77256094
Background checks are in place though. The government failed to do its job and deny his ability to purchase them. If being on a FBI watch list for ties to terrorist organizations doesn't immediately red-flag your NICS check, I don't know what will.

That's not a case of "we need new legislation" that's "the government needs to clean house and fix the processes that are already there."
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>>77258482
not to mention...
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>>77259821
They honestly don't know, it's just something they like to say and throw out there.

They don't want the government going full surveillance, but they want future potential criminals watched like hawks.
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Mommy pls suffocate me with your thighs
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>>77257522
2/10 bait

- false in every country, city and state its ever been tried
- i replied
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>>77260277
Please tell me this is true so I can post it on kikebook.
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>>77259821
Ever seen Minority report?
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>>77260277
>requires
you're also comparing some latin american shithole with what is probably the most civilized country in the world
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>>77251138
If you had banned airplanes 9/11 wouldn't happen.
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>>77257522
>>77251929
Really makes you think
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>>77260559
Then the solution to gun crime would be banning minorities. Go tell that to your sociology professor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Switzerland I guess they can throw their rifle in the dumpster but who would actually do that?
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>>77258399
Not the specific one that I was thinking of, but helpful nonetheless. Thanks!
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>>77257698
STATUS:
>>77259693
REKT
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>>77257522
>ID
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>>77251138
>WE WILL DEFEAT ISLAMIC EXTREMISM BY NEVER UTTERING THE WORDS ISLAMIC EXTREMISM
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>>77251138
can you give a quote on who said that?
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>>77261010
>go to twitter
>search "ban guns"
>???????
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>>77254541
/thread
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>>77260277
Wow these dubs really made me think...

Perhaps only land owning white males should be able to own guns.

And vote.

In fact, since the constitution was created by land owning white males, I think it should only apply to land owning white males.
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>>77261010
That's it, #Imwithher now.
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I don't believe guns are the issue, but...do AR-15s really need to be legal? I mean, they're built to kill a large number of people in a very short amount of time. The only people who would ever use them are terrorists and autistic virgins who are mad cause they got cucked.
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>>77256487
and Obama's retarded "if you're not safe to fly you're not safe to purchase a gun" is a complete violation of the constitution's due process clause which requires a hearing in order to restrict a fundamental right such as self defense
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>>77261212
Right because big brother has your back :)

God I hate you idiots.
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>>77256983
9/11 had nothing to do with the Iraq war. Saddam was gassing Kurds and murdering a bunch of his people and W said, my dad didn't get you so I will. Thinking 9/11 was a US conspiracy is full retard
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>>77261101
uh.. no profit..
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>>77261212
Ban semi-automatics you might as well ban every gun. Liberals hate ar-15s because they look scary.
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nice feet
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>>77261010
The odd thing is that's the kind of thing the left say and when you show them, unless it's an actual word for word quote, they brush it off as false evidence. Yet, if you ask them to show you once where Trump has said or done anything racist they just start mouth breathing and call you a bigot. It astounds me how many people take liberals seriously, I suppose it just shows how strong cultural Marxism is. It's literally pilpul for goys.
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>>77259821
"common sense" gun control means chipping away at the 2nd Amendment until it no longer exists
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>>77256094
Now your putting words in your own sides mouth. All I've seen on kikebook is "BAN ALL THE GUNNZZZZZZ". None of this stronger restrictions bullshit you're talking about.
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>>77261212
"do cars really need to exceed the speed limit of 75 miles per hour?"

"do sentences really need to be longer than 10 words?

"do religions really need to have more than 1 church?"

"do citizens really need to be free from searches and seizures?"

"does the government really need to provide a person with a trial before convicting them?"
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>>77261212
>The only people who would ever use them are terrorists and autistic virgins who are mad cause they got cucked.

webm related
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>>77255242
>Frank Țepeş
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>>77261584
>and animals barely fit to be human
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>>77251138
hmmm
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So a Muslim walks into a gay bar, and the bartender says, "what'll ya have?" The Muslim responds, "shots for everyone!"
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>>77261730
like the joos Mr. Himmler?
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>>77261539
>hurr durr England
>hurr durr tribal tattoos
>hurr durr they can go back to their own country
>hurr durr the colonies was a lie
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>bans guns
>ghetto niggers start robbing more houses and stores because they're less afraid of what someone can do
>more illegal hispanics come
>do the same because Hillary lets them in
>terrorists with illegal weapons start invading the country against the defenseless nation, like that muslim guy at the gay club or w/e
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>>77261575

>le slippery slope is real!!!

Fuck off. Literally any decision or idea can be made out to be the worst case scenario if you try to connect it to its extreme. Banning automatics won't lead to banning all guns. I'm still waiting for pedophilia to take over now that gay marriage passed a year ago...still waiting...
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>>77261212
>they're built to kill a large number of people in a very short amount of time.

No, like any gun it is built to launch a projectile (commonly called a bullet). If the operator operates it in the fashion you are speaking, then it's a problem.
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>>77254230
How could a man stay with a woman when it is so blantantly obvious that its not his child. Literally nobody would look down on him. Not her parents or his, not the courts, none of his friends or hers.

Seriously what the FUCK kind of mental illness do you need to have to stay with someone after they shit out a niglet. This picture is so fucking enraging.
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>>77261212
Bill of Rights, not Bill of Needs.
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>>77258301
Fallacy fallacy.
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>>77261799
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>>77251138

OK, let´s assume the US bans guns. What do you do with those 100+ million guns that are already in households?
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>>77261948
m... maybe they adopted?
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>>77255521
>Do they have to compensate for their manhood
It is kind of hard to defend my house from a few hundred spics and niggers with just a ball bat.
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>>77261920
its not a fallacy. the stripping of rights almost never get retained again.
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>>77261920
Are you forgetting about Salon's virtuous pedophile?
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>>77262144
People will freely give up their guns. Espescially criminals, they always follow the liunch
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>>77259693
>Gun ownership doesn't come with a hate manual, senpai


Not all assault rifle owners hate.

However, haters who own assault rifles can kill more people much more quickly. There's no opportunity for victims to react, much less escape.
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>>77261920
AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle you dipshit. If you ban semi-automatics you are banning almost every gun that is around today. Pic related is another semi-automatic rifle. Liberals hate the AR-15 because it looks scary, that's it.

Also the no fly no buy law Osama tried to enact is living proof of the slippery slope.
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>>77262267
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>>77260275
>If being on a FBI watch list for ties to terrorist organizations doesn't immediately red-flag your NICS check, I don't know what will.

An unpaid parking ticket from 1988 in a different state under a dead man with the same name.
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So if we make gun illegal we only get criminals with guns....drugs illegal we get criminals with drugs....if we make spics legal.....no fuck they would still be here damnit
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>>77261238
>"if you're not safe to fly you're not safe to purchase a gun" is a complete violation of the constitution's due process clause which requires a hearing in order to restrict a fundamental right such as self defense


If you're on the no-fly list, you're the unhinged threat to the rest of us. We need to be defended from you.
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>>77251929
then knife violence skyrockets. people will always find a way to to kill each other
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>>77260559

What are you implying? Sounds like racist hate speech. Police will be there shortly.
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>>77262338
Assault Rifles are illegal in the US except for very few individuals, usually limited to only on duty police officers or private security former special forces. An Assault Rifle is a fully automatic capable rifle. No AR-15 in a regular gun store is going to be either carried or sold to a normal citizen.
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>>77251929

I could twist your logic around and say Switzerland not only gives out guns to citizens for free, but they're also required by law to own a gun and be trained in their usage. And their gun crimes? Virtually non-existent.
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>>77262237

Slipper slope implies that one step in any direction will automatically mean we'll keep going in that direction and never stop until we reach the worst case scenario. That's why it's a fallacy. Literally any idea can be made out to be radical if you claim that it will eventually lead to disaster.
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>>77262672
Muslim immigration sure wasnt a slippery slope in 1990.
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>>77262520
>implying being on the no fly list - unhinged threat
you can get on that for simply visiting an ISIS or ISIL website

so do it within the confines of the law, have a hearing, convict the person of some felony and remove their right. Otherwise, you're just a populous fascist who hates freedom and believes gulags for speaking one's mind is a good thing. Way to go Mao, show your true colors
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>>77262338
Slamming a semi into the gay club would have been at least as effective. You want to ban semis too?
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>>77262161

The guy was cucked by the dog.
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>>77262672
But there is literally no point in banning assault rifles. Statistically they're insignificant in gun homicides. Handguns are used in an overwhelming majority however since they're not as "scary" you won't see it.
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The US government is oppressive and racist so we should make sure that its thug police are the only ones legally able to own guns. :^)
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>>77251138

summer is officially in session, pic related

>>77254588
if you base your political leanings off of facebook, you're a dumb nigger and should be aborted from /pol/ forever
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>>77257522
nope
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You're only taking my guns from my cold dead hands
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>HURR DURR IT WASN'T AN AUTOMATIC JUST A SEMI AUTOMATIC
>LOLOLOL ANTI GUN LIBTARDS BTFO
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>>77256094
>implying criminals couldn't/wouldn't buy a gun illegaly

i could buy a military-grade gun and have it within a few days and i dont have a gun license.
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>>77263335
its true though.

spain, don't you have some debt you're not going to pay back so UK can be smart again and drop out of the Euro
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>>77251138
It's funny, we'd get more accomplished by banning all niggers.
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>>77263335

Ban assault niggers.
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>>77262383
Man I really want an sks but a decent Yugoslavian or Russian one is too expensive, and I ain't about Chinese shit
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>>77263449
>military-grade
Meaningless.
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>>77262672
Except you leftist fucks have shown over and over that if we give a little, you will only want to take more.

Anything concerning leftists taking away rights, changing definitions, or making laws is a slippery slope. Because your end goal is totalitarian communism.

Fuck you all
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>>77258770
Actually, in many states you don't have to register so they wouldn't have a record. That, or it's time to go out in the ocean to accidentally drop your gun overboard
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>>77262959

The issue here is potential. Overall, yes, most homicides are committed with handguns. But we don't hold worldwide vigils because a woman came home, caught her husband cheating, and shot him in a jealous rage. 49 people died in one single shooting. There was no individual target, he probably didn't know the victims personally (though it's believed he was a regular at the club). The reason people are scared shitless is because they think gun violence is something that happens in slums and it only happens to criminals. But now, it's becoming increasingly likely that they'll be out and about, shopping or going church or going to a club, and some psycho will decide to kill them and a dozen others for no reason.
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>>77251138
Making recreational drugs illegal definitely made the country safer and reduced crime.

I dont see why banning guns won't have the same positive outcome.
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>>77251138
>Is here a more stupid liberal sentiment?
Yeah, diversity is our strength.
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>>77251138
Mmm I'd suck those toes
Also if you could effectively keep hand guns away from criminal negros you'd cut the murder rate to civilized levels
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>>77263726
Then they should arm themselves. What is it that makes these people so weak and afraid?
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Texas is 2-0 for terrorists, only casualties were the terrorists
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>>77262482
Jesus, that's ridiculous.
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>>77258510
BUT ITS THE SAME IDEA. you look like a retard because you said something retarted.
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>>77263335
And? It shows ignorance when everyone is talking about banning only Automatic rifles, then they talk about the AR-15 which is a semi auto unless you do a modification which I believe is illegal. If you ban semi-automatic rifles then you ban pretty much every useful rifle on the market. AR-15s are targeted because they look like the fully automatic rifles our soldiers carry despite the AR-15 being the civilian model.

>>77263584
Here's something to look at. Watch the video, they break open the crates and they all look so pretty.
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>>77263622

First of all, I'm not even leftist, (though I'm sure you'll think that anyway simply because I think the legality of certain weapons is unnecessary). But it's a little disturbing that you think all leftists are part of a single, consummate hivemind and that they all have an endgame. I mean, I could get into the fact that left and right are just political boundaries set in place in order to create partisan ideas, rather than allow people to acknowledge the ambiguity around them and embrace moral relativism, but I'm sure that would go right over your head.
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>>77251138
Tell that to France
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>>77263584
fug

https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo-sks-for-sale
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>>77260277
This is cherry picking, the results do vary but it's not a correlated thing.

I recommend all to read this: https://imgur.com/a/b7HSM
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>>77251138
>GENDER IS NOTHING BUT A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>TRANSGENDERS HAVE A LEGITIMATE CONDITIOM
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>>77256204
This.

That's what the average person is too stupid to understand. There will always be a new regulation needed until they have them all banned.
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>>77253903

Liberals have wanted to ban guns for at least 40 years, fagnon
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Why not ban semi automatics,
For hunting a bolt action rifle is good enough, for home defense so is a pump-action shotgun
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>>77251138
Who wakes up in the morning and decides to wear toe rings
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>>77254869

Either get your head out of your ass or go back to r/bernie
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>>77258301
The slippery slope is valid here and does not constitute as a fallacy, I would believe
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>>77263584
Chicom SKSs are actually gud.

I got an early 60s, probably fired in anger at some poo2loo in border skirmishes.
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Tighter borders AND tighter gun rules and regulations. We have to work together or nothing will get done.
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>>77264446
>middle ground
The leftists are making this a gun control thing despite it obviously being Islamic terrorism. I will continue calling them liberals even if there might be a good liberal in the bunch.
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>>77262634
But land of tiny knives is all white, so it doesn't count. What are you gonna do? Ban blacks? Racist.
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Also gun crime in Switzerland is low because access to ammunition is extremely regulated. I guess you could just regulate the ammunition supply instead that could also work.
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>>77264905
>pump action shotguns
You really only need one shot to convince those Refugees to stop raping your daughter. Pump action is unnecessary.
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>>77257522

There are already more deaths by stabbing in America than deaths by rifles of all kinds, not just AR15s

More people in America are beaten to death with hands and feet every year than are killed by all shotguns and rifles combined
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>>77262520
Then defend yourself. God, what is it you people don't understand about SELF defense? No one is going to save you, no one cares about you.

You are responsible for your own safety.
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>>77265500
Implying I have a daughter, plus at least the kid won't grow up to be a fat,stupid piece of shit unlike in america
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i read all your posts in stephen colberts voice thats how shitty it reads
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>>77264446
You believe in circumventing the United States Constitution?
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>>77264905
Why not just stay in your own shitty, cuckold utopia of Germany and stay the fuck out of America's business?
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>>77258301
You can own a tank.

>slippery slope fallacy

Contrary to common belief slippery slope is actually NOT fallacy in every situation. It is a perfectly logical way of thinking. What is a fallacy is asserting something unrelated would happen. The DOJ (under the Obama administration that hates gun) has personally admitted in a leaked memo that not ONE single gun control measure would actually work, and the goal is to confiscate guns. Look it up.
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>>77265742
>no children
>importing 100s of thousands of low IQ migrants from Northern Africa
I expected this.
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>>77258301
>Slippery slope fallacy.

This is a meme, the slippery slope has been proved valid
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>>77264616
The point of the image is to say homicide rates and gun rights are not correlated in the other direction.
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>You are simply wrong
is my personal favorite.
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>>77265855
Implying that there isn't a US air base 5km away and as such pretty sure I have the right to speak my opinion. I somewhat remember free speech being in that constitution of yours but I guess the second amendment is more important.
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>>77262813
That's the next step. Just look at Cuckstralia.
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>>77266108
American rights don't apply to foreign nationals
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>>77266108
That's for citizens actually. I know you don't have freedom of speech in your shithole of a country.
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>>77265919
I'm 19 pretty sure that if I lived in america I'd have kids with my sister by now but since I don't live in america,I don't have kids while not being able to afford them to avoid being a benefit scrounging gun carrying american hillbillies
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>>77261920
>>77264446
Pushing things along down a slippery slope is literally the definition of the Progressive movement. It's not necessary for every adherent of that political persuasion to have the same end goal in mind to do as they do. Indeed, it would be quite counter-productive for an end goal to be put forward for as much as some would be put off by what they're being asked to help to create---this is why the emphasis to the ideology is framed in the appearance of endless, directionless movement.

Forward, men, forward! To arms (figurative, of course)!

But towards where?
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>>77265855

I care too much about you silly Ameritards to leave you to fuck your shit up.

Just ban guns, make people give them up, then lock up/kill those that don't.

You'll get rid of guns in a decade, and rid yourself of many, many yokels along the way.
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>>77251138
Well guns are banned here and we have almost zero gun violence. Very close to zero. Common sense actually makes sense. Who would've thunk!
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>>77265790

Constitution says that guns are for militia use, not for everyone to have willy-nilly.

You should read your own founding documents!
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>>77266281
We have more free speech capability than you fucks do. Literally half your entire political class wouldn't pass secondary education.
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So if a terrorist is able to illegally acquire an assault rifle (for example the AKM which was used in the Paris spree-shootings). Liberals think they have the right to tell me I shouldn't be able to acquire the same caliber of weapon to defend myself and my home against people who are able to acquire these types of weapons and use them on a deadly scale while I only want to defend my home and person(s).

Liberalism is a mental illness.
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>>77266338
Wow an anti gun teenager in Europe, so surprising.
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>>77266338
If you lived outside a nanny state, you'd make heinous and irresponsible choices?

And you assert some sort of moral authority? Why should I listen to someone who can't help but impregnate his teenage sister were it not for Angela Merkel?
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>>77266468
"the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms"

I'm sorry, you were saying? I get you're from a shithole country that's never really had freedom, but learn grammar, what a prefatory clause is what what the term PEOPLE means
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>BANNING GUNS WILL SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH GUN VIOLENCE!!
nothing wrong with that statement
we dont have problem with guns in poland
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>>77266482
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/15/merkel-allows-prosecution-of-german-comedian-who-mocked-turkish-president/
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>>77266500
Wow an american incapable of nuance. I said a ban on auto's would prevent mass killings while leaving hunters and weapons for personal defense alone.
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>>77264905
>What is adrenaline rush?
>What is short stroking? (Inb4 small dick)
>What is possibly shooting in confined halls with small arm movement?
Yeah the way my house is I wouldn't want to blindly stumble down the hall in the dark and worry about working a manual action around a corner with my tired as arms.
>hunting meme
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>>77266500
Please show more respect when you're talking to German people in the future.
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>>77266468
>A well balanced breakfast, being essential to a whole diet, the right of the people to keep at eat eggs shall not be infringed.

Now what part of that sentence implies eggs are exclusively for a well balanced breakfast?
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>>77266281
>USA
>freedom of speech
who do you think you are fooling?
Go ahead and call the jew, faggot.
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>>77266468
>četnik in čardž ov riding komprihenžn
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>>77258878
I know some people in Canada with illegal guns that crossed your border. Mexico's border is a joke compared to the crossings in ontario
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>>77266542
Implying it wouldn't be cultural influence, literally the only reason you're so ardently pro gun is because of your environment. It has nothing to do with anyone as temporary as a politician.
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>>77265903
>a leaked memo that not ONE single gun control measure would actually work, and the goal is to confiscate guns. Look it up.

You need it to prove your point. Why can't you provide it?
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>>77266497

How many mass shootings has your gun ownership stopped? Fuck all.

How many has it caused? Fucking tons mate.

Maybe if the entire fucking civilized world doesn't have this problem, they might be on to something, hey?
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>>77258780
Can someone explain why the AR 15 is not an assault rifle? Gun noob here and google defines assault rifles as "a rapid-fire, magazine-fed automatic rifle designed for infantry use"

and as far as I know the AR15 has a full auto mode and is magazine fed. It meets all the requirements to be an assault rifle right? Is this just conservatards grasping at straws?
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>>77266616
Now he wants to ban cars
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>>77266727
coming from a country where denying the holocaust is a crime
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>>77251138
>if we get rid of guns we'll be safe
>we need to let illegal immigrants in unvetted from mexico
It just doesn't make sense, their views are paradoxical.
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>>77264616

That is the point: the number of guns is not the main determinant in the rate of homicide; rather, it is the demographic/racial composition of the population that will be by far the main determinant, which is why muh hoplophobic meme is a fallacious red herring.

That is why if New York City was all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent or an all-white Chicago would have a murder, rape and robbery decline of 90, 81 and 90 percent, respectively.
- The Color of Crime. 2016 revised edition.

>>77266348
>Pushing things along down a slippery slope is literally the definition of the Progressive movement.

Reminder that when they invoke le slippery slope fallacy meme to try to prove you wrong, it is in itself a fallacy (fallacy fallacy), which does not necessarily prove you wrong.
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>>77266482
Which in Germany evidently means you are so educated that you ensure your own cultural destruction by allowing a refugee class of people into your country en masse all the while turning a blind eye to the criminal acts they commit in the name of their culture and religion.

If that's the grand European education system, then I feel blessed that it doesn't exist in America.
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Merkel allowed prosecution, because that's what the law said, it goes to court which hmost likely throw it out.
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>>77266819
AR's don't fire full auto. Only semi.
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>>77264858
>Liberals have wanted to ban guns for at least 40 years, fagnon

"Have wanted to" isn't the same as "proposed legislation banning all guns".
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>>77266468
>the Constitution says that

>an element to the Bill of Rights were purposed to limit the rights of the people
Fuck off.
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>>77266852
More like I call a car a car not a fucking automobile. Not that Americans can make cars anyway.
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>>77266946
yes they do. I literally saw a video of a guy firing full auto AR15 yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSizVpfqFtw

here is the vid.
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>>77266764
The only reason I love freedom is because I live in a free state?

What does that have to do with your desire to inbreed, Hans?
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>>77266616
You said a ban on semi-automatics which is almost every gun ever. As an expert on American politics you would know that the second amendment is not for hunting.

>>77266727
Last time I checked David Duke hasn't been arrested. The media calling you a bad person and blacklisting you is not the same as a government ban on free speech.

Go out and deny the holocaust.
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>>77266567

...You missed the first part.

If you're going to be part of a civil defence force, with all of the regulation and responsibility that implies, go at it.

But if you think that the intent of this statement was for everyone to own firearms because "MUH GUNS", then you are severely retarded.
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>>77266500

Not necessarily; that is what shills want you to think, to pretend you are isolated in all of this attempt at divide and conquer, when you aren't.
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>>77259496
I bought some shells and .22 for a buddy without a license for use in his hand made toys
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>>77257733

He didn't use an AR-15 but thanks for playing, try again.
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They are just upset that legal gun ownership is a white thing
They don't care about nig gangs with illegal handguns
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>>77266913
Hahahahah, You're projecting your own countries weakness social cohesion onto Germany.
Germany always will be great and some refugees won't change that.
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>>77266941
You can't be prosecuted for speech here in the land of the free.
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>>77267075
ah yes, just like the militias that sprung up to expel the british, they were all part of a civil defense force and definitely not private citizens who owned weapons
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>>77267033
Baww, does the large English vocabulary intimidate you?
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>>77266819
Assault Rifle requires full auto (1 trigger pull = multiple rounds fired until the magazine is done or the trigger is released)

AR-15 (stands for ArmaLite Rifle, not Automatic Rifle). Is a type of military style weapon, based off the military version of the M16. There are other variations of the M16 however the media thinks every black rifle is an AR 15 and every handgun is a glock.

AR-15s are capable of being Assault Rifles but those are illegal to 99.9% of the US population and require a special federal license.

Also, because you touch yourself at night
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>>77267254
Yeah you can be done for slander in the USA, and in most cases its laughed out of court like this will be.
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>>77264905
>>77266616
You keep forgetting the purpose of the second amendment isn't to defend one self from criminals or for hunting, it also serves the purpose of protecting citizens from the own government. There is a reason the Black Panthers supported gun ownership, and there is a reason Southern Dems supported gun control for certain groups.
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>>77267196
it was the MCX, I fail to see how that is relevant though, same shit still applies
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>>77267347
Hahahahah, Implying calling a car and automobile isn't bastardised english.
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>>77267075
>But if you think that the intent of this statement was for everyone to own firearms because "MUH GUNS", then you are severely retarded.
If you think the intent of the Bill of Rights is to reserve power to the state and not to limit it, it is you who is severely retarded.
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>>77262813
>Slamming a semi into the gay club would have been at least as effective. You want to ban semis too?
All the truckers were already inside the club.

ba-doom tish!
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>>77266729

druga priča, brat...
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>>77260277
Swiss people have some kind of mandatory millitary service that lasts a couple of years, it's not as simple as "giving them a gun and teaching them how to use it".
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>>77267075
you missed what a prefatory clause is. It explains a reason (not the only one) but a main reason why the PEOPLE have the right to keep and bear arms. However that right isn't limited to a militia, its for everyone. Just like every other right indicated in the first 9 Amendments known as the bill of RIGHTS.

No what else are you ignorant about in the world of Constitutional Law that I can certainly teach you about? 4th Amendment violations? Due Process? How you're a nigger and worth 3/5s of a person?
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