SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
Any """"American"""" who supports gun control should fuck off to one of their beloved communist shitholes so they can get fucking murdered.
>>77235381
I agree.
They are anti-american and should be treated as enemies and traitors.
Preaching to the choir here.
>>77235381
Savage chink lady.
I would fight tyranny with her any day of the week. Afterwards she can suck on my Lo Mein noodle.
>>77235381
>muh poor stoodents!
>muh democracy!
Yeah, cause allowing a bunch of deluded 'Murricaboos to destroy your country and throw it into chaos is such a better alternative!
>>77238217
A couple hundred years of armed patriots hasn't thrown us into chaos yet.
>>77235381
She seems a rittle ronery. She needs her rabia ricked.
>>77238217
kek kys my man. your countr\y is poor shithole
>>77235381
>Any """"American"""" who supports gun control should fuck off to one of their beloved communist shitholes so they can get fucking murdered.
How about you fuck off limey. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with semi autos or whatever you gun fuckers believe.
>>77238782
>The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with semi autos or whatever you gun fuckers believe.
debunked
>>77238685
>your countr\y is poor shithole
Sure, but at least we don't have those pesky commies in power anymore.
Better ded than red :^)
>>77235381
>their beloved communist shitholes so they can get fucking murdered
The shit holes are safer than the US.
>>77238673
Yes it has.
"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state..."
Are you in the Army? Then no guns.
We are going to take all your guns away that can shoot more than one round per minute.
Then we are going to repeal the second amendment.
>>77239152
ty based carol
Based chink woman. Hopefully she won't send her kids off to (((university))) in ignorance.
>>77235381
God bless, Brit. And God bless Britain.
>>77240028
how are those cartels working out Jose?
>>77240043
>We're going to repeal and make millions of people criminals
Yeah okay faggot. pic related.
>>77240043
>Are you in the Army? Then no guns.
States define what a militia is, not the federal government.
>We are going to take all your guns away that can shoot more than one round per minute.
>Then we are going to repeal the second amendment.
Must've been a good dream.
>>77238782
>semi autos and machine guns have early prototypes around time founding fathers were around
>they have no clue they would be made and have nothing to do with our 2nd amendment
if you are going to be retarded atleast try to understand history a little better
>>77240043
...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
because you need might need a militia to keep the state free, the you can have a gun and it shall not be infringed
>>77240043
Be my guest faggot. I hope it's you who comes and trys to take them. We'll see how long you want to keep doing that
Gun control is no solution.
We have gun control in here, guess what? it fucking does nothing.
''Bad guys'' still will have their guns '
''Good guys'' will be disarmed
''Cuck guys'' will be pleased
>>77240696
Must be sad to have lost your dick....
>>77241012
>says the man afraid of guns
>>77241012
Some people like that kinda thing
>>77240779
My compadre knows what's up
>>77236949
In England we say it as preaching to the converted. Makes you think, doesn't it?
Thanks mom.
>>77240043
There's a comma in there, friend.
>>77240028
Just the comparatively recent cultural enrichers.
Is 50 years long enough to say the experiment didn't work?
Far more mass shootings will be prevented if guns are banned. The average American does not have links or contacts with illegal arms rackets. Most of them would be caught in honeypots. A lot of people will be saved. I don't see why anyone has need for a rapid firing gun. You need guns for hunting, take a rifle or a shotgun. Why do you need a sub machine gun to defend yourself?
>>77241012
If you don't own a handgun and/or rifle, you can't call yourself a man. Now go back to mommy and ask her to take you to the mall kid :^)
>>77241895
>india knows anything about gun culture
Take a look at what it takes to get a sub machine gun in the US next time you use the street
>>77240043
>"We kind of need an army but we just finished getting BTFO by a tyrant's. Not good. So we will never take your guns folks. So important!"
Easier for you?
>>77241895
I need a sub machine gun to send street shitters back to their call center in India
>>77240043
And how do you plan on taking them when we refuse to comply?
You're not gonna use guns are you? That would be rather hypocritical.
>>77240779
>We have gun control here...
You have gun laws; you don't have gun control, or control over any of your laws.
But that's not your fault; it is the fault of the USA that funnels guns and cash across your borders.
See, the problem with everyone on this board is that you live in your heads. You think the narrative in your head is the world instead of just a story of the world that can be wrong.
You can't know anything about the world; all you can do is make up a story, then compare it to the world.
And what you don't get is that when you make up a story where you are the pussy victim of the big bad government that doesn't even exist but is merely a story in someone else's head, you end up wasting time trying to corroborate smoke.
This is the way the world works: if you don't do something, it doesn't happen.
No guns to Mexico; Mexico doesn't get guns. No one dies from guns.
But you morons have to interject things that don't matter, like the boogie man that isn't there.
A B test it. Guns in America = mass shootings. No guns in Austrailia = no mass shootings.
Times America has defended itself from its totalitarian government with guns? Zero.
The number of idiot who will say, "That's because we have the guns!" and think that makes sense? = every moron on this board.
>>77240043
Who will take the guns?
>>77242206
(cont.)
But let's just look at the totalitarian statement of OP. Who the fuck says it cannot be infringed? It obviously can be infringed any time someone infringes it.
See, you morons hide in rights, and defend those rights with force, just like the authoritarians, AND NOT WITH RESPECT FOR THE LAW, which is what the constitution is about.
YOU are the traitors just trying to circumvent the LAW for your totalitarian aims.
Because you are psychotic and think you are persecuted.
Because you have no respect for the law.
Because YOU are the traitors.
SO why should we let you have guns any more than letting Terrorists have guns?
>>77241895
>India is an untapped source of gov shills
It's like seeing the first poo in our loo.
Can you imagine, living in a legal weed state, legal open and conceal carry, growing the plant and rocking back and forth on a chair on your porch with an AR in hands, flying whatever fucking flag on your property that you want...
>>77242206
>Times America has defended itself from its totalitarian government with guns? Zero.
America was created that way bootlicker. Also, see the Bundy standoff.
>>77242206
We have a human right to bear arms, the president is attempting to strip us of that illegally. He is destroying our democracy, this has gone well past the point where debating matters.
What the fuck does it matter if we disagree with a law that king obama has already fucking made? You socialist tool.
>>77242206
Yeah whatever you say faggot, anyone want to play a game?
>>77242587
>See, you morons hide in rights, and defend those rights with force, just like the authoritarians, AND NOT WITH RESPECT FOR THE LAW, which is what the constitution is about.
This is some top tier double-speak fantasy. You're a complete sophist. The constitution guarantees those rights and the second amendment guarantees us the right to defend them with arms. You're a traitor.
>>77242884
Rolls royce
what the fuck is wrong with Piers Morgan he doesn't even live here anymore and he wants us to lose our gun rights fuck him
>>77242206
Fuck off, traitor.
>some of the most enlightened thinkers of the time gather around to found a nation based on the enlightened principles of individual freedom enshrining their values in a constitution to ensure tyranny should never overtake the land and providing protections so that it should never happen
>government has become precisely what was dreaded, a tyrannous surveillance state with no respect for the principles on which it was founded or its citizens, with both republicans and democrats violating constitutional law or re-interpreting it to fit their agenda, and it's only getting worse
>there are people arguing to surrender the final protection the founding fathers provided
It's like two totally different species of human beings. You have people who value individuality and independence, gun owners and freemarketeers, and then you have the left wing spectrum, socialists and social justice warriors, who think with their feels and want to ban guns. The United States was founded on the principles of the first, but it's governed, through the media and universities, primarily by the second. It seems incredibly tense and polarized. One thing is for sure: if they get your guns, you've had it.
>>77242587
(cont)
None of you are Americans. Americans are individuals who work together, not sheep following a leader. And in working together we respect the rules that work, and change the ones that don't.
Individuality requires trusting other individuals.
Individuality requires that you have a story in your head that matches the world, and that that story matches other people's story precisely because the story matches the world, NOT THE OTHER PERSONS STORY.
This board is full of followers and sheep. You don't have the honesty to look at the world.
You are cowards who can only look at your fears.
No wonder you follow a moron like Trump. He is playing you, and that is why we are going to take your guns.
>>77242719
we also have the battle at athens
>>77242206
Ever hear of the Battle of Athens (1946)?
Americans use guns to overthrow a corrupt and tyrannical local government.
>>77243257
>>77243257
>Individuality requires trusting other individuals.
That's rich coming from someone who doesn't trust anyone with a gun.
Go fuck yourself.
>>77241526
No we don't you fag.
>>77242807
>We have a human right to bear arms..
Oh? You were born with a gun coming out of your ass? Guns grow on trees and you can pick them?
You disgrace the legacy that made you...
top kek
agreed
>>77243058
HAHAH ! Whose the fucking sophist now? How does a piece of paper guarantee anything you double-moron?
Look up the word "agreement". Then cower from your pathetic stupidity.
>>77242884
17 get
>>77243553
>I don't know what rights are the post
>>77243257
good luck fagit!
>muh ar15
i hate these conformist faggots. Go big, push for de-regularization of full autos and shotguns. the 2nd amendment also covers those. But oh no, you wont hear that from the NRA since they want their autos to stay expensive. Fucking hypocrites
>>77243755
The guns guarantee the constitution, which is a philosophical document that has to be defended. That's why its the second amendment, stupid fag.
>>77243257
>And in working together we respect the rules that work, and change the ones that don't.
No we don't, not anymore. There are many, many rules that the majority disagree with and that don't work, are against the constitution, and are still enforced by the government through violence and suppression. Go think for yourself instead of following a communist-totalitarian brain washing philosophy.
>>77243493
You beggar the question. Who says I don't trust others with guns? I don't trust with guns those absolutist who are so stupid as to not notice all the guns they cannot, by law own.
I don't trust those so Platonic and so stupid, they think that the world is run by immutable rules that make things so, like a piece of paper or a bible or koran they worship.
I don't trust anyone who won't change when the world that is, and is immutable, comes and smacks them in the face with the failure of their story to tell them anything useful about the world.
I don't trust the dumb, and that is why we make up rules that fit the world, like, if you don't have a gun that can shoot forever, you can't kill so many people.
When the world doesn't support the story, you change the story.
>>77244432
You know what law is immutable? I'll fucking kill you if you try and take my guns.
How is fun control even plausible in the states? As soon as they are about to ban guns surely the only people not stock piling guns are going to sell them to the people who are. I'm pretty sure those things don't stop working the second they're banned.
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>>77244548
Action beats reaction. You'll be dead before you reach your gun.
>>77244432
You think you're some kind of genius philosopher but you're just an obfuscating sophist bootlicker.
You know you're wrong and basing things in belief when you can't dispute any arguments, just laugh and then reiterate another aspect of your philosophy like a preacher.
>>77235381
the most disgusting thing is that the NRA got congress to prevent the CDC from actually researching gun violence.
While most gun owners (myself included) would like to find ways to reduce gun misuse while preserving the rights of citizens to bear arms, NRA fanatics won't even let the government conduct research to that end.
I think it really shows you what kind of people the gun extremists are.
>>77242884
Roll iiiin
>>77235381
is she a midget tho?
>>77240043
Continue reading, please. Why do liberals ALWAYS stop reading once they get to the "security of a free state" part?
>>77240779
Your country can't really be compared with the US desu
>>77241895
>Far more mass shootings will be prevented if guns are banned.
This is true, and we're going to end up with the 2nd amendment repealed if the NRA keeps up its extremist bullshit.
>>77242884
87 pls
>>77242206
>See, the problem with everyone on this board is that you live in your heads. You think the narrative in your head is the world instead of just a story of the world that can be wrong.
You can't know anything about the world; all you can do is make up a story, then compare it to the world.
Anon thats called having beliefs, some based on philosophy, morals, and facts.
>And what you don't get is that when you make up a story where you are the pussy victim of the big bad government that doesn't even exist but is merely a story in someone else's head, you end up wasting time trying to corroborate smoke.
This is the way the world works: if you don't do something, it doesn't happen.
No guns to Mexico; Mexico doesn't get guns. No one dies from guns.
>But you morons have to interject things that don't matter, like the boogie man that isn't there.
>A B test it. Guns in America = mass shootings. No guns in Austrailia = no mass shootings.
You're fucking retarded if you actually believe this. In some instances yes, a disarmed populace will lead to less mass shooting, and less media coverage, but those are muh feels arguments. No one likes to see a crowd of innocents gunned down. Now lets talk statistically. A majority of gun crime happens in low income crime heavy cities. I.E. gang violence. Now are you really going to try and make an argument that criminals wont find guns, illegaly or legally? If theres a demand there will always be a supply. Whether its slavshit weapons brought in a boat or plane from south america, or bootlegged guns, there will always be a market for weapons. Whether its for some nig or spic to settle a score, make quick money, or a citizen trying to protect their family, country and assets.
>Times America has defended itself from its totalitarian government with guns? Zero.
What is the revolutionary war, the entire reason the second amendment was written faggot
>>77245709
Criminals are people too. Do you favor felons having the right to own guns?
>>77244963
You are just mad because you know I am right. You are just wrong because you know I haven't said anything that doesn't make sense. YOU are the one who puts the cart before the horse and has to make up a heaven and Ideal forms and physical laws that are indisputable to confuse your narrative with the world.
I make up and inherit the stories then hold them up against the world to see if they reflect.
I am not fooled by the Sophistry and Platonism that mistakes the Narrative with the world.
I leave that up to the Bluepilled on this board.
The only Red Pill is to know that everything you know is a story, is THE NARRATIVE. And the only way you don't fall into the trap of the believing and BOOTLICKING of your master's Narrative, is to check it out for yourself.
The Pragmatist finds narratives that are useful to be believed. It is useful to be believed that without guns, people wouldn't get shot.
It is useful to be believed that if we restrict by agreement, the ability to kill with guns, then fewer people would die from guns.
It is useful to believe many things in the situation they present themselves, like General Relativity and Newtonian physics, even though they don't agree with each other.
Wake up asshole! The bullshit has got you!
>>77235381
Wikileaks has proven that there was no massacre but rather a few casualties...
(American diplomatic memos)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8555142/Wikileaks-no-bloodshed-inside-Tiananmen-Square-cables-claim.html
>>77245971
I personally don't
but you can make the argument that the point of prison is for them to serve their time and then get their rights back when they leave
>>77242206
tl;dr I am a huge cuck pussy faggot that needs to commit suicide at the earliest possible opportunity
>>77245971
Felons lost their rights the moment they committed a felony by taking another person's right.
>>77244432
Stop talking in this fucking bullshit pseudo-intellectual speak, you elitist fuck.
>I don't trust with guns those absolutist who are so stupid as to not notice all the guns they cannot, by law own.
That's why no one can legally purchase a firearm without a background check first. If they cannot legally own a firearm, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO. If they get one illegaly, THEN GUN CONTROL WILL DO NOTHING TO STOP IT. This is the main problem with you gun-grabbing fucks, you WILL NOT, EVER, ACCEPT this fact.
Prescriptions, for example. I cannot by law buy prescription meds I don't need. If I have a prescription from a licenced doctor, I will legally be able to buy my medication. If I don't need them, and I still want to get high off my rocker, then I will go and illegally purchase them. The law can do nothing to stop me.
I don't trust those so Platonic and so stupid, they think that the world is run by immutable rules that make things so, like a piece of paper or a bible or koran they worship.
So you're saying religion is the problem, not guns. It begs the question of why you want all guns banned.
>Some childs are allergic to some medications, and they will never know they're allergic until they take the medications themselves.
>We should ban all medications just in case.
The rest is just literally you jerking your ego in front of everyone. So go fuck yourself, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>77242206
Most people own guns in Australia, actually. We have restrictions, we didn't ban them.
If we didn't live in a fucktarded society, we wouldn't need guns. But here we are, so fuck it, I own two pistols and two rifles.
It's also based on genetics, American Southerners mutated differently than Europeans and Yankees. Southerners have higher levels of aggression which leads to a natural affinity to firearms. My country's gun culture is controlled by short tempered fat rednecks and it's awful.
>>77235381
Communist who is against gun control here, leave it senpai
>>77246061
We're saying the Idealism of the constitution is defended with the hard reality of an armed and informed populace. You need Idealism to fight for, you need practicality to fight for it. They operate as twin systems which sustain freedom. Your real world shit is all nonsense, humanity is always activated and inspired through thought and idealism. Everything you've said doesn't make sense.
>>77235381
Wow take that and shove if up your sorry asses mexicans.
That is a real immigrant.
>>77242587
>But let's just look at the totalitarian statement of OP. Who the fuck says it cannot be infringed? It obviously can be infringed any time someone infringes it.
>See, you morons hide in rights, and defend those rights with force, just like the authoritarians, AND NOT WITH RESPECT FOR THE LAW, which is what the constitution is about.
>YOU are the traitors just trying to circumvent the LAW for your totalitarian aims.
>Because you are psychotic and think you are persecuted.
>Because you have no respect for the law.
>Because YOU are the traitors.
>SO why should we let you have guns any more than letting Terrorists have guns?
You see my pigheaded traitorous friend, the second amendment much like the first was not written to defend your cuck feelings, it was written to give american citizens the power to protect and defend themselves from people who seek to erode our rights as citizens of this country, its a very simple concept anon, one you clearly cannot grasp. Like it or not, it is LAW, and will remain LAW as long as there are americans who feel that these are still rights that should be afforded to them. But let me humor your delusion, lets say we do give up these rights. The right to defend ourselves, and the right to speak freely. What then? Do we accept what we see in canada and europe? People being arrested for thought? Being arrested for fucking defending themselves? I think not, you can suck my red white and blue cock commiecuck.
You're the traitor here.
>>77235381
wow i feel so enslaved being able to go to school and nightclubs and not worry about getting shot because guns are all but banned here. And i really hate how my government oppresses me with all that free healthcare and education. Banning guns will never work america
>>77240043
Shall not be infringed you Anti-American sack of shit.
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>>77246061
>It is useful to be believed that if we restrict by agreement, the ability to kill with guns, then fewer people would die from guns.
Stop typing a fucking novel and kill yourself
>>77235381
Criminals dont normally buy guns legally, and have their IDs scratched off them. Especially gangs, holy fuck are they retarded up until the point where they get guns from across the border w/ no IDs. Its like they could have been something.
Anyways, why take guns from non criminals? Just make the process tougher.
>>77245835
The 2nd amendment is for securing freedom against oppression, the government is the originator of the extremism. Trying to scratch away gradually what we can't own is oppression of our rights.
>>77241895
I can think of three reasons:
Firstly, assault weapons are useful for protecting your property especially against many attackers, or people only armed with handguns (more than 70% of all gun crimes in the U.S.)
Secondly, the social contract, an idea central to America since its founding essentially states that if a government acts out of the interests of the people it should be serving the people have a right to revolt. This is the idea behind the American revolution, and without guns that can match the military, such a plan could never oust an oppressive government.
Finally, assault weapons act as a deterrent that can be effective against handguns.
Besides that, trying to ban assault weapons would create a war on guns similar to the disastrous war on drugs. It unrealistic to think that the government could control all guns and ultimately this would only lead to worse mass incarceration.
>>77242884
What's the point of this?
>>77245919
>disarmed populace will lead to less mass shooting, and less media coverage, but those are muh feels arguments
what?
>are you really going to try and make an argument that criminals wont find guns, illegaly or legally
Sure, but we would also expect that it would be harder for them to find guns. Why do gun extremists always act like "criminals with guns" is a yes/no variable? Some would leak in through the black market, but the numbers wouldn't be comparable to the status quo.
For the record I don't want to ban guns. The problems in the ghettos need to be dealt with robustly (something else the NRA is opposed to) so this broad and reasonable concern can be allayed.
>>77246079
Then you agree there are limits to who can own guns. After making that admission, you consider some form of gun control legitimate, and it becomes a question of the specifics.
>>77246117
What about people is psychosis? People with a history of violence who haven't been found guilty of a crime?
Despite the claim that guns don't kill people, they obviously make it much easier to do so, and gun control in principle has been held constitutional due to the dangerous nature of guns.
Again, arguing that any gun control is unconstitutional is to invite the repeal of the 2nd amendment.
>>77240028
>mexico
Well maybe watching illegals build a wall will calm us down a bit?
>>77247025
>Then you agree there are limits to who can own guns. After making that admission, you consider some form of gun control legitimate, and it becomes a question of the specifics.
yeah but I don't think many people are fighting you there
just like people currently in prison shouldn't own weapons and many people agree
>>77245919
Because the conditions of the world right now are the same as in 1775?
"You can't step in the same river twice."
When I was a kid, no one owned guns with high capacity magazines. No one.
Hunting laws in all states restricted magazine size. You know why?
So the stupid wouldn't spray the forest with bullets.
You have forgotten the bulk of the Constitution: the first part that says the majority rules. You know why that works? Because if everyone has their own narrative that works, then the narrative we corroborate will reflect the world.
What do we have now? A bunch of sheep who are driven by the narrative of fear, not the world, and a narrative of the strongman. The strongman's narrative doesn't reflect the world.
There is no tiger. There is no tyranical government. Instead of buying a gun, why don't you vote?
In the meantime, we will write laws that make sense, and change those that don't.
And if that means we take away your guns....
>>77241895
Why are foreigners so inept regarding the concept of an armed populace? Your government cant even supply your population with toilets, let alone defend you or work in your interests.
>>77241012
What is with gun grabbers and their obsession with dicks
>>77247025
>Again, arguing that any gun control is unconstitutional is to invite the repeal of the 2nd amendment.
And arguing for repealing that is to invite a civil war.
>>77239887
Says the beaner.
>>77247193
>there is no tyrannical goverment
but history proves you wrong over and over again
>>77235381
Vote leave and take your country back!
>>77240043
Lol. You live on one of the coasts dont you? You go middle into hillbilly territory and youll see a whole new animal. those of us with guns, which is most of us, are great shots and we have all the tactical, advantage, the amount of dead cops and national gaurd would equal another vietnam.
>>77247193
>And if that means we take away your guns....
then you can go get fucked and you will hopefully be shot
>>77246142
He's actually making sense you're just so far up your own ass you don't see it.
>>77244963
Same with you. Stop being mad.
>>77246741
>>77246061
As for you, its useful to believe that people will still kill each other, guns or no guns. It is useful to believe that an assault weapon ban will do nothing against those who wish to kill. It is also useful to believe that if everyone had a gun there would be less crime and killing.
You're locked in some shitty narrative where you think you're above everyone else because you read a couple of books. Wake up lmao
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>>77246934
It's not an assault weapon it's a rifle you tremendous faggot. Assault weapon is a propaganda buzzword made up by gungrabbers to scare the general public
>>77240043
Militias, by definition, are not part of the government
>>77247531
>Stop being mad.
Stop telling people what to do on an anonymous imageboard for free speech you insufferable leaf twat. Are you a wanna be moderator? Too bad. Go join a forum faggot.
>>77246809
>the government is the originator of the extremism
Not really. US anglo culture has always had a deep strain of paranoia.
>Trying to scratch away gradually is oppression
And this paranoia is on display here. There certainly are people who hate guns and want to get rid of them, but there are a lot of people like me who support gun ownership but also support reasonable gun control.
You shouldn't assume everyone is out to get you, senpai
>>77247171
>yeah but I don't think many people are fighting you there
Nonsense. The NRA has prevented the CDC from conducting research into gun violence, research that could be crucial for finding effective forms of gun control that preserve the 2nd amendment. The NRA (and this thread) are full of people who object to any form of gun control, no matter how obviously sensible or mild.
>>77247352
>And arguing for repealing that is to invite a civil war.
Not going to happen. The bitter enders will again make themselves pariahs and end up destroying the right to gun ownership for the rest of us.
Seriously, it seems like southerners have some weird fetish for choosing horrible causes and getting themselves beat down over it.
>>77247193
Just kill yourself already. You know you want to.
Who will take the guns?
>>77247025
Yes if you disarm the populace social retards will have a harder time getting them, but statistically the social retards who go on shooting sprees barely touches average murders in the US. It would not be hard to find guns in a disarmed united stated. There has been a gun industry in this country since its creation, there would be plenty of black market guns both foreign and domestic.
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>>77247531
Make like a leaf and kill yourself. Any informed American knows what the real problem is.
>>77247786
Rofl go suck a fat black cock amerifriend it might make you happier at this time of day
>>77247915
This. All the cops and military men I know are hardcore pro 2nd amendment.
>>77247827
>The NRA has prevented the CDC from conducting research into gun violence
what are you talking about Obama has has the CDC do a study on gun violence while he has been in office
they found people use guns for self defense more often than to harm others
>>77242884
pls
>>77246142
>WILL NOT, EVER, ACCEPT this fact.
See? That is a belief that has never been tested, and that is your problem. You don't know what will happen if we get rid of the guns. But other countries that have, and do actively restrict gun ownership have fewer gun deaths.
Look, I'll admit it. Besides the philosophy which is spot on, I have been trolling you. I don't want to see all guns restricted. But I also don't give a shit if a bunch of children or fags or movie goers are masqueraded.
However, if you do, and the country does, then the solution is to restrict guns. End of story. Why do I know this? I don't. Why do I believe it? Not because I am a liberal, or an SJW, but because when I look at the rest of the world, I don't see gun deaths where there are no guns.
Pragmatism is brutal. It is damn near Nihilism. But its salvation is that I never mistake the Narrative with the world, and I find thing USEFUL TO BE BELIEVED because they work.
You are a slave Anon. You are a slave to the stories in your head, and will never be free until you realize this.
>>77242884
Jimmy Rollins.
>>77247193
>take away your guns
Who?
How?
>>77247386
I am so sick and tired of them running their mouths like they have something to be smug about or proud of.
FUCK MEXICANS!!!!!!!
>>77240043
Are you in the Army? Then you aren't in the Militia.
>>77235381
>aka your only American if you hold muh same opinions
Sounds very unamerican
>>77235381
I fucking love shit like that. That's how you immigrate to the United States. That's how you assimilate.
>>77247827
Why do you think they couldn't slaughter the people at the Bundy standoff? Because they couldn't. It would start a revolution and many police would die too. Your sensible gun control is bullshit, its about eroding our rights, and you're an ignorant mfer if you can't see that's why its being pushed.
They're never going to be able to take guns away from people in rural areas, you can kill groups of them that are demonized sufficiently in the media, you can disband small enough groups, but your "sensible" gun control will never happen, because it can't.
>>77247193
States still have restrictions regarding hunting. Really only problem species like hogs have no actual rules.
Yes majority rules, so take it to the polls or shut the fuck up. Not even all dems want guns banned, you've been demented by the loud majority SJW's and soccer moms. Americans own guns because we're afforded that right, you can act as offended as you want, but this is the current state of the law, and the constitution. Are you really going to try and pull the current year meme? Kumbaya you naive child.
>>77248064
>>77247915
covert blackwater private mercenary United Nations groups
![Screenshot-6_18_2015-9_43_12-PM[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/MCKPe1f.jpg "Screenshot-6_18_2015-9_43_12-PM[1].jpg")
>>77248184
Mass murders are a boogeyman perpetuated by a fourth estate that has become positively vampiric in the last few decades.
There has literally never been a safer time to be an American citizen and crime rates continue to go down.
>>77247937
>It would not be hard to find guns in a disarmed united stated. There has been a gun industry in this country since its creation, there would be plenty of black market guns both foreign and domestic.
We're already deep into hypothetical territory; you have zero reason for believing this is the case.
>>77248064
Interesting. All the cops and military men I know are hardcore getting their pensions.
>>77248092
>Obama has has the CDC do a study on gun violence
You mean this one?
https://www.thetrace.org/2015/12/cdc-gun-violence-research-wilmington-suicides/
Then congress explicitly prohibited the CDC from studying the issue.
I mean, this is just unamerican. We don't run away from the truth.
>>77248431
>Your sensible gun control is bullshit, its about eroding our rights,
keep up with that and see where it gets you. It's much, much better to find a good compromise on this issue than to go for a redux of the civil war and civil rights movements, for all of it.
Bundy standoff was also a failure, if you didn't notice. Those retards are in jail and your precious rebellion didn't materialize.
>>77248032
Push your gun control shit in your own country maplenigger.
>>77235381
>types naive with an umlaut
She's alright.
![gun-surveyQ16[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/23vI0MN.gif "gun-surveyQ16[1].gif")
>>77248959
>All the cops and military men I know are hardcore getting their pensions.
Nice anecdote faggot. Service members and LEOs are overwhelmingly supposed to more restrictive gun laws.
>>77248959
Can you just explain to me how you don't think that the current government would be a threat and take over? It has been shown all throughout history that when governments get too much power they go rouge. Why wont you take this into consideration?
>>77248959
>keep up with that and see where it gets you. It's much, much better to find a good compromise on this issue than to go for a redux of the civil war and civil rights movements, for all of it.
No it isn't. You don't compromise on rights. That leads to them being eroded by succession.
>Bundy standoff was also a failure, if you didn't notice. Those retards are in jail and your precious rebellion didn't materialize.
Not spiritually and inspirationally, it was a massive success. They thwarted the government from imposing its will through use of the second amendment, even if it didn't last forever.
>>77249007
Lmao did you even read my post? Do you even know how to read? Where exactly did I say I was for gun control?
Are you really this delusional? I love how the American you're mad at is spot on about you. You're stuck up your ass in this story that you're making up in your head. You're so far up your own ass that you don't even see when someone is on the same side as you.
Shaking my head.
![TO8BGgw[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pgQ4Rb3.png "TO8BGgw[1].png")
>>77248959
>good compromise
We've been compromising since the Hughes Amendments in the 80s and it hasn't made a fucking difference. Fuck off. At this point I want to go back to the days of mail order MGs just to spite the spineless faggots that have been pushing pointless gun legislation.
>>77248573
>mercs and the UN
Ok. So they'll deploy how many million men to accomplish this? Also, will those guys hand in their weapons when "it's over"?
Based conservative asians
>>77249559
You said the guy posting his deluded weirdo philosophy in large posts on here calling for the elimination of the second amendment was making sense. Don't blame me if you can't figure out what the person you're saying makes sense thinks. You didn't post anything to make anyone think you were against gun control, you moron.
>>77249700
When "its over" there will probably be a world government or martial law
Not advocating gun control I'm just arguing on how things would happen. Not to mention they probably have satellite mind control along with other deadly weapons like heart attack guns.
>>77247531
>One shooter out of millions of gun owners
>Ban all the guns
Yeah, fuck everyone who has ever needed to use a gun in self-defense because they were either too weak or too outnumbered to defend themselves.
Fuck all the farmers that have used guns to hunt animals that are messing with their livestock and effectively hurting their bottom line.
Corrupt government? Nah man. That's not an issue. Just do what they say and it'll all be alright. I mean, who needs freedom anyways?
You know, just a couple of months ago, I had a shooting in front of my house. They shot up the apartments up front. I was alone with my brother. He's 8 years old, and he and I were scared as fuck. We didn't know if they were going to bust into the house to go after us. We didn't know if they were going to rob the place, and steal things (Like others have done before). Yes, I did call the fucking chips, but they got here 30 minutes late.
It happened to me. It's happened to those 50 killed and 53 injured. And I hope to God it happens to you. You'll only think of a few words by then.
>If only I had a gun...
>>77248184
Have you ever heard of Australia, anon? They took back the guns and crimes went through the roof. Have you ever wondered why gun crimes happen in either gang turf, or places where a gun shouldn't be? Virginia tech, a night club, whatever. It's because the shooters KNOW you won't be armed. They KNOW you won't fight back. They don't have any RISK involved.
If you take away the power for the prey to defend itself, the predator will do everything to exploit that.
Also >You are a slave Anon. You are a slave to the stories in your head, and will never be free until you realize this.
So I'm a slave until I realize I need the government to take away my right of choice to own a gun or not, effectively taking away my freedom.
Yeah okay.
>>77235381
Except we don't get murdered. You get murdered. 30 000 of you every year. Meanwhile in Norway we have about 10 murders per year. So... you're retarded.
>>77235381
BASED CHING CHONG
>>77250131
thats because we have a lot of gangs in our country that do things illegally. Such as the blacks, spanish, triads, italians ect
>>77250131
>norway
>leads the world in deaths per capita from school shootings
>talking shit
>>77248959
>for all of it.
*for all of us.
>>77249244
I think you're missing the point that they are also professionals who put their personal feeling aside for the sake of upholding the law.
>>77249308
I don't know why you think I think that, but I'd note that the government already started mass surveillance and attempted to ignore habeas corpus (Jose Padilla) even though we are already highly armed.
It's much more important for people who support a liberal society to get informed and stand up to our rampant corruption here and now, rather than hoard guns and hope for another civil war.
>>77249402
>You don't compromise on rights. That leads to them being eroded
You mean like the right to own slaves?
>it was a massive success
pic related
>>77249570
>We've been compromising
Come on.
>pushing pointless gun legislation
that's why we need to study and collaborate with people who want gun control, so we can get away from retarded shit like the AWB and find a compromise that works for both sides.
anyway, I need to work. It's been real.
>>77249983
The majority of my post is directed towards the American you're mad at. I can't believe you still can't make sense of that.
And as it turns out said guy was trolling you but that doesn't mean his philosophy was incorrect. Not my fault you're so stuck up your own ass you can't understand it.
>>77250289
We've never, ever had a school shooting in Norway, fucking retard.
>>77250286
You have 35% of the non-gang-related mass shootings in the world and 5% of the population. Double retard.
>>77250347
>I think you're missing the point that they are also professionals who put their personal feeling aside for the sake of upholding the law.
the poll was about if they would uphold the law
what you said is fucking retarded
![Reeves-1215002[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WZUatsl.png "Reeves-1215002[1].png")
>>77250131
>30 000 of you every year
Mostly suicide and niggers. Irrelevant.
>>77250347
>completely ignores the images
(you)
>>77250131
Norway has a population of around 5 million, mostly homogeneous. We have a population of around 320 million, containing ethnic conflict, massive economic divides, prescription drug abuse, racial divides, cartel access creating massive crime, the war on drugs, etc, etc. You do the reasoning there pal. There are statistics showing the prevalence of legal handgun ownership decreases crime, have a look through the thread.
>>77235381
based sweet asian lady
>>77250523
oh yeah it was just mass public shooting in general not school shooting
you get the point though faggot
>>77250652
Oh, sure. There's plenty of reasons your country is such a shithole and most of it doesn't have to do with guns.
How does that refute my argument that my "beloved communits shithole" is literally hundreds of times safer and wealthier than your "capitalist utopia"?
>"Any """"American"""" who supports gun control should fuck off to one of their beloved communist shitholes so they can get fucking murdered."
^This was the argument I called retarded.
>>77250652
Why do our blacks have a graduation rate and average income only slightly less than ethnic Europeans?
America blames all their issues on blacks but the few blacks we have here (except somali refugees) are pretty much indistinguishable from other groups.
>>77250833
And it was the only time a mass shooting has ever happened in Norway. Do you fucking believe your argument holds water?
>>77250347
How can we stand up to corruption while giving our rights away? We know the government is so corrupt we can't afford to give even 10% of our rights away. Like you said they have the advantage with mass surveillance.
>>77250523
I like how you are comparing Norway to the U.S when the population is no where near the same
>>77250131
>>77251054
and yet you still lead the world
would hate to live in such a violent shithole desu
>>77251101
lol the last thing Americans want on either side is a civil war. It would be the biggest proxy war in history by a large margin. 80% of the world would jump at the chance to get revenge on its people/government.
>>77250540
>>77250554
I did fail to read the image. I still don't think you're right, nor do I know what your source is.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/28/16740488-police-chiefs-sheriffs-divided-over-gun-control-measures?lite
>>77235381
This chink is more American than limp-wristed liberals who get triggered the moment they leave their safe spaces.
>>77251249
>>77250554
And yet all your constant mass shootings are committed by white people. Nice desperate attempt at damage control though.
SHALL
>>77251391
I know, I am not advocating a civil war because other nations would see us as weak and they would try to profit
im just saying we should try to keep our rights as much as possible
>>77238782
>>77251677
Americans aren't allowed to address their degenerate Jewish ruling media class. They are conditioned to immediately blame people of other races.
>>77251677
You realize mass shooting account for less than 1% of gun deaths, ~50% of gun deaths are suicide, and the remaining are mostly crimes committed by niggers and spics?
>my AR will protect me from the US Army
weeeeeeeeeeew
>>77243510
In England we never ever say fag to mean gay, and never say cigarette but instead fag every time infa 100%
>>77251787
100,000,000 armed civilians couldn't have taken down the USSR. It was defeated by human chains and peaceful internal political conflict.
![tumblr_inline_ni71ibXnPZ1t3hud4[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VrSwVJ2.png "tumblr_inline_ni71ibXnPZ1t3hud4[1].png")
>>77251469
>The chiefs back it, while the sheriffs oppose it.
>Police chiefs are more willing to play the political game compared to the sheriffs that actually interact with the public.
What a shocker. The LEOs under them are even less favorable towards gun legislation.
>>77251677
>white people
Nah. Blacks are still overepresented for mass shootings. You just don't about them because it doesn't fit the narrative.
>>77238782
>>77240043
you guys can move to paris where theres no guns!
it really works out eh! je suis charlie hebdo!
>>77251006
Its not a shithole, some areas are. The areas settled by Norwegians for example are peaceful and beautiful for the most part.
I was explaining why you don't have much murders and we do.
>>77251012
>the few blacks we have here
That's the reason. If you only have few their lower average intelligence and greater propensity for violence as a group isn't a significant problem.
>>77251944
>the US has unlimited resources, funds, and trained manpower to indefinitely operate their machines of war
weeeeeeeeeeeeeew
>>77251944
>if the government has bigger guns then no one should be allowed to defend themselves against it
do you even read yourself, liberal?
>>77252019
on this note can you imagine what would have happened if the USSR fell into civil war in the 1990's? Tens of millions of Europeans would have died and it could have easily ultimately ended in nuclear war.
>>77235381
Shill thread
>>77251677
>last one was a muslim
Umm okay?
>>77243257
>Individuality requires that you have a story in your head that matches the world, and that that story matches other people's story precisely because the story matches the world, NOT THE OTHER PERSONS STORY.
Just when I start to think you might be skitzo,
>This board is full of followers and sheep.
You need to take your meds.
The projection (among other things) in your posts... It's astounding.
>>77241895
Fuck you faggot!
You're a disgrace to us. However street shitting we might be, We've always believed that people's opinions were far more important than the government.
>>77235381
WELL
REGULATED
MILITIA
>>77251944
>>77242884
almost there
>>77251899
It doesn't fucking help your case when that 1% is still a dozen times each year which is three times as often as all of Europe combined. And then you have the constant risk of being killed by "niggers and spics" on top of that.
>Our violent hellhole is justified because it's mostly niggers doing it! Those murders don't count!
That's not how it works retard.
>>77252019
>>77252213
not to mention the government today has heart attack guns and satellite mind control
>I didnt ask to be born
>not im subjected to all of this madness
earth is a prison
>>77252322
Yeah, and he was still white, faggot. Is Christian a race now?
>>77252696
Now im subjected to all of this madness*
>>77252643
Fuck off and quit trying to understand why we are the way we are. You never will.
>>77252719
He wasn't fucking white faggot
>>77252719
he was arabic
even if you dont want to call him that he would be asian
![ht_omar_mateen_orlando_suspect_03_float_jc_160612_4x3_992[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YcT6RKm.jpg "ht_omar_mateen_orlando_suspect_03_float_jc_160612_4x3_992[1].jpg")
>>77252719
>white
>>77242884
54 moonman get.
>>77252953
>>77252835
>>77252940
calm down guys hes probably arab himself and considers himself white
>>77253053
Real Aussie flag
>>77253053
so close yet so far
>>77252835
>>77252940
>>77252953
Does that look Arabic to you? Are you retarded? He is literally caucasian. Afghans aren't Arabs. Are Italians also not white? Because they look like that too.
>>77252643
Don't worry about it if you keep importing ISIS you'll get up there too!
>>77253277
Personally I don't consider them white no
>>77253277
White means European to everyone besides crime statisticians and anti-Racist people trying to obfuscate arguments.
>>77251677
>constant mass shootings
I wouldn't call them constant. Niggers busting caps in one another, that's constant.
>>77253277
>Omar Mateen, the son of two Afghani immigrants was white you guys
NORWAY YES
>>77253277
He is very clearly a Pashtun which are a people descended from Iranians. Not white.
>>77242206
>No guns to Mexico; Mexico doesn't get guns. No one dies from guns.
Yeah, they die from having their head detached from their bodies.
The problem are not guns, it is your diseased society where no values of the founding fathers remain, where 2/3 of your population is obese and try to make it normal, where half of couple divorce, where half of children will grow without father, where consuming is the motto, where women are raised to hate men and men are raised to be suspicious of women, where being people crave to be recognized as victims, where people are more knowledgable of fictionnal universe than their own history.
Liberals made america a corrupted piece of trash with no project, no compass, no anchors.
>>77239887
>their beloved communist shitholes so they can get fucking murdered
The shit holes are safer than the US.
-Oh Yes, US is very dangerous, that's why we need to keep all the Mexicans, Muslims and any other non-whites out. Infact, we must DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS, for their own "safety"
>>77235381
Go get raped by a pack of refugees you cuck.
>>77250131
>Norway
>communist
How fucking retarded can you be?
some of you "americans" are such pussies. we need to have a serious talk about what resisting a tyrannical government involves.
If you are unwilling to kill a member of our armed services under ANY circumstances then tyranny has already won. I bet most of you faggots support these "heros" no matter what disgusting actions they take.
A DESIRE TO BAN GUNS IS A DESIRE FOR DEAD LAW ENFORCEMENT.
>>77242206
>we should get rid of a preventative safeguard because the situation in which it would be useful hasn't happened yet
Shit, I guess I should stop wearing seatbelts, forget everything I learned about CPR, and disable all my smoke detectors because I've never had to use them yet.
>>77247195
You acctually make a fantastic point, perhaps false equivalents, however a sanitary loving environment is almost equally as important as protection
>>77253053
Follower of kek, you must improve on your meme magic
You were one off.
>>77247915
Possibly UN troops might be called in.
That's the only thing I think libs will goto once they realize the scale of just how many legal guns there are, not counting illegal obviously.
>>77253353
>>77253496
>>77253599
>>77253635
You are literally factually wrong. He is caucasian and so are Iranians. They're genetically distinct from Arabs. Your personal opinions don't change this.
But whatever, it doesn't matter.
>>77254363
factually you are more likely to die in a mass shooting than we are faggot
>>77235381
Based Chinese lady.
>>77242884
Rollings callings
![un-blue-helmets[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5ra7zSx.jpg "un-blue-helmets[1].jpg")
>>77254247
>UN troops
>implying importing a bunch of spineless blue helmet cucks will help when a majority of the police and military oppose seizing guns
>>77254554
Ayyyyyy
>>77253893
Thanks frenchbro, we're close, but we arent France yet. It'll take another decade of socialism to get there.
>>77235381
arent 90% of ppl here just drones and ppl you can use to get you money?
thats right you feel proud producing money for others, are you a fucking autist?
your ass belong to the elite, and doesnt matter if you have a gun or not, you cant go againts the system is you fucked up you end up dead or in prision.
there are no crimes unless they catch you first.
>>77243553
He thinks arms only means guns, quick everyone point and laugh.
>>77254770
>mexico letting everyone know how shit their life is
>>77254247
Those blue helmets make a great target when you need to pick someone off a thousand meters away.
>>77254483
Only in the year of 2013 double faggot.
>>77242206
You ignore the insecurity of Mexico's extensive coastline and southern border. You also ignore the fact that corruption is an inextricable part of daily life in Mexico.
>>77254770
>there are no crimes unless they catch you first.
JESUS CHRIST!!!
Shit puke maggot latrino mexican mentality on open display.
THESE SUBHUMANS DO NOT BELONG IN OUR GOD DAMN NATION.
>>77255313
>>77254568
>>77235381
Beautiful
>>77242884
gun grabers and commies go to hell. rollieroll roll
>>77242884
this is a good thread
>>77255337
>be autist ice nigger
>get blown up
>live
>get shot anyways
>>77248184
You know you might acctually have been convincing in all these posts if you simply answered questions, but you don't have an answer that fits the narative.
>>77254568
>bunch of these little nignog troops come to my house
>"hai gib guns please"
I actually do not own any at the moment
>"Don't have any"
>we in and check
>[proceeds to destroy home and steal valuables]
>>77238782
fine, let me have my cannon.
>>77243257
>Individuality requires trusting other individuals
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah oh shit! you're serious aren't you? hahahahhahahahahahhha
oh shit,bitch! you just banned my sides!
>>77237905
Kek
>>77244857
By what? Another gun?
I thought you wanted to ban those.
>>77235381
damn, brit. good fucking job.
>>77242884
Checkem
>>77238782
Bait detected
>>77252643
and our woman aren't getting raped in the streets.
6/10, a 7.5 with the AR. Would fug.
>>77242884
Roll inbound
