>there are people who are going to vote this man
>being spanish in 2016
bomb us please
>>77225297
yesterday's debate was terrible.
SAD!
when the world is going forward with the right we're going backwards, this is 5PA1N after all
>>77226336
>5PA1N
is that your new meme, Ahmed?
>>77226430
No need to put negative labels on me, I'm already Canarian
>>77226144
It was Rivera's best debate though.
>tfw the only reason the gommies haven't won is because this country is chock full of old people
it's only going to get worse from now on
>>77226502
are you against oil extraction?
>>77226628
>tfw the remnants of the already shitty party that was IU joined Podemos
>muh heteropatriarchy
>>77226652
Yes if it's extracted by foreign company and it doesn't benefit the islands and the country, which is what as going to happen.
Also our tourism is at stake.
This country is a fucking joke
>>77226628
>the only reason the gommies haven't won is because this country is chock full of old people
tha's why the left wants lo lower voting age to 16, pathetic fucks
>>77226827
>extracted by foreign company and it doesn't benefit the islands and the country
what are you trying to say? How a national company would benefit the islands more than a foreign one?
>>77225297
Tell me about Pablo. Why does he wear the horse teeth?
>>77226885
Democracy is truly degenerate
>>77226885
Fucking disgusting
>>77227099
To take a bite out of capitalism.
>>77226794
>heteropatriarchy
seeing yesterday that SJW tumbleresque buzzword said by a political relevant person convinced me to vote PP, sad but true.
My gf already told me she's leaving Spain if Pablemos wins
>>77226502
That's real classy of you
I wouldn't expect anything less desu
Nueva falange quando
>>77227188
Pedro Sanchez masterace here.
>globalist socialism
Is there any worse form of government?
>>77227241
and where are she going to? I'm seriously thinking about going to the US if Trump wins, of course
>>77227167
To convince us nationalize Vitaldent.
>just been reading this cucks policies.
What the fuck, Spain?
Not even us brits would vote for this cuck.
Are your countries people full of Swedish tier people.mow? Because last time I went to Spain, it was full of Catholic nationalists and based racist police.
>>77226996
There's no national company that can accomplish that. Aznar sold them.
>>77227559
She wants to go to France, but I'm moving next year to US, so maybe there
>>77227647
it's the result of too much corruption on the right, sadly.
>>77227647
Result of corruption and years of media and goverment adoctrination.
Also most of Spaniards are braindead retards.
>>77227978
Also Millions of spics and other scum voting for gimmedats
Second Spanish Civil War when?
Spanish Third Republic when?
>>77227978
Indoctrination, retrasado.
>>77228055
The only good republicans left are 70+yo by now.
For instance, the last good politician this country has is Julio Anguita, and he is retired.
>>77228054
True. Not all spics are like that tho, I have a spic friends that is redpilled as fuck and hates podemos as much as me (he even prefers to vote pp than see podemos wining).
>>77227513
This
>>77228055
>Spanish Third Republic when?
>Second Spanish Civil War when?
If the progressive retards like podemos win it is going to be soon.
>>77225297
Whats the alternative? No vox in my province
>>77225297
He looks like he will be a Spanish version of Justin Trudeau. Am I correct?
>>77228057
Why are you butthurt, Juan?
>>77225297
He's the embodiment of the eternal spaniard
>lazy commie fag who steals if he has to instead of working
Much like the eternal jew
>>77228539
We used to be conquistadors, my man.
>>77227559
>and where are she going to? I'm seriously thinking about going to the US if Trump wins, of course
After his announcement that if he becomes president he will ban all middle eastern immigration Im wishing to go to the US, too bad it wont happen.
Anyway, if I land in Texas or New Mexico, Im pretty sure that my english skills wont matter much
>>77229551
And then you frenchified
So, as a country what choice do we have now?
Podemos was the blunder of the century, PP is riddled with corruption and void promises, Im trying to decide between PSOE and Ciu.
Who do you think we should vote, anons? Or we just need to cash in as much as we can and get out of this shithole?
>>77230118
>trying to decide between PSOE and ciu
Try hanging yourself
>>77230562
What other option do you see my fellow Jose?
>>77225297
>Go to debate
>Do nothing but appeal to social justice feelings
>Say you're going to do lots of good things because you are good
>Show no real economic knowledge outside of the "if we raise the minimum wage people have more money
>Constantly get your illiteracy, your Party's failures, your lies etc.
>Deny everything and accuse the other candidates of the same exact things
>Every fucking newspaper agrees you were the best one in the debate
>Win elections
>Turn Spain into Sweden-style cucked Canadazuela
>Profit
>>77230709
at least vote smaller government, you statist cuck.
C's is the most libertarian-ish leaning party we have, even if its not much and they love the EU.
>>77228539
Won't deny it.
That's why we need leaders who really believe in ourselves and who really want to make Spain great again.
Why do Spaniards want Venezuelan styled socialists?
>>77231497
the raise the minimum wage by 200 bucks and the economy will prosper because people will have more money to spend always gets me.
Is there not a single person with business experience in the entire fucking party?
>>77231658
This. I would vote Vox but there's no chance my vote will make any difference. The libertarian party has like 12 members it's completely discarded as well. Ciudadanos is the way to go this time.
>>77231497
>Spain goes full Sweden mode
Would be very fucking sad, El Cid is drilling through the Earth with how hard he is rolling in his grave over this.
>>77231497
Goddamn I just realized all the typos, sorry, not really focused right now.
>>77228159
>Julio Anguita
>good
He is an educated person unlike the rest of our politicians, but he is a fucking commie
>>77232348
But a realist commie nonetheless, you can be a commie and a marxist and whatever you like to believe because they are utopic as hell but you must keep focused on the real world, the real established society, the real economy.
Julio despises capitalism but as he says "let us transform capitalism in a tool for a different kind of goverment" and he is right, Pablemos tries to emulate venezolan regimes that will drown Spain, even more, in absolute poverty.
>>77227513
Are you a 45 years old mom?
¿Por qué no hablamos en español?
>>77233920
DELETE THIS
>>77225297
meh all of them are fucking terrible shitheads
>>77233920
>>77228159
>For instance, the last good politician this country has is Julio Anguita, and he is retired.
He's a good speaker and a good thinker, but what has he acomplished politically? Honest question.
>>77231658
>>77231754
even if you are right, and you are right, you must PP since neither C's or VOX stand any chance against the big boys.
Sadly this elections are between PP and the Commies
don't vote Podemos (shithead commies) or PP (corrupt idiots that are going to break the country)
>>77234725
Wether you like it or not you have to vote PP if you want to avoid Podemos.
Podemos will have the support of all the left parties and nobody wants to marry with PP. So if PP doesn't get a crushing victory it'll be the commie coalition for certain.
Al pepero y al podemita tiro en la nuca.
>>77225297
Explain
>>77234705
if C's had enough votes to form majority with PP they would at least have to strike a deal C's would be in charge of an economic and education reform, as well as get tough on corruption. It's worth a shot
>>77235013
no fucking way I'm voting PP after all the corruption, they're not liberals, they're the worst kind of politician that live out of the country with no ideology and no ethics. Even worst, they're fucking idiots that have allow Podemos and the catalans to get more power. FUCK THEM
I'm voting C's, hopefully it can manage to agree with PP and PSOE can just abstain from voting.
>>77235442
I'd like to have an alternative. Matter of fact I was thinking UPD or Vox but it's throwing the vote.
So it's either corruption or shitflood.
>>77231497
>Canadazuela
Top kek
>>77231825
Mudblood. Too much race mixing on most of my countrymen. Look at us, Sweden. This is your future.
>>77235196
Country is going full commie mode. Not Eastern communist, that would not be that bad, but "modern" communism.
>>77225297
Who cares. There is no other way to stop this than crashing the train. I will go ahead and vote podemos. Those not worthy will perish, and the whole country will drown in its own shit. Maybe that will make people wake up. If they don't, they deserve everything.
>>77232216
Who cares we are not on an english academy.
>>77235442
Wake up, there is no political solution for this. The only logical reason to vote is to make things go as bad as posible. It's actually better on the long term.
>C's
Yes they basicalle want to create laws to dismantel the state and turn it into a province of the european union. That's better for the money and the economy. You fuckers only care about the money, but I would gladly die of starvation in Exchange for having a decent country.
>>77225297
Guys tell me that there is hope yet, please, i don't want be ruled by a meme goverment.
>>77236358
Thanks for that hearty kek
>daily reminder that guy is the future viceprez
![agiofos-001[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FakOeAl.jpg "agiofos-001[1].jpg")
>>77236358
Did he say something about the fact that the culprit turned out to be gay? Or did he shut up like a bitch nigga?
Also if you saw the twitter comments you'd realize there's no hope for this country. Only flames.
>>77236358
haha...
Sorry my man, there is no solution. There is hope though. If we survive the shit that is coming, we will be able to make something out of the ashes.
>>77236358
>People that follow a religion commit terrorist acts of violence
>Blame it on the male gender
I JUST
JUST
>>77236226
>You fuckers only care about the money
Aaaand... That is why you are going to vote Podemos and you don't care about Spain drowning in its own shit. Maybe you don't have anything to preserve or you just don't know shit about the real danger that Podemos economic model is. Thinking that Podemos rule would make Spain collapse and "wake people" so Spain can reborn like a phoenix is plain retarded, m8
>>77236358
Too many years of keking while reading tumblr posts and suddenly yesterday the SJW post was made by fucking unidos podemos and that is unnacceptable and scary.
>>77236744
>"wake up people"
toppest of keks, like what happened with Rajoy right?
oh boi that second time they were elected sure proved how people woke up lmao
>>77236916
Reminder that if you live in Spain in 2016 and you are a white male you should have any social network deactivated.
>>77235025
Eso no rima ni nada, vaya puta mierda
>>77237027
Actually we haven't reached to the USA limits, but it will come.
Just focus of what is going on in USA they are the first ones to face any kind of problem related to this and we will follow them.
And really, am I the only richfag fucking scared of those commies? I know spaniards are struggling, but institutional theft is not the answer.
>>77236744
>Maybe you don't have anything to preserve
Yes I do, but my property and my comfort are secondary things. I am willing to give everything for a greater cause.
>Thinking that Podemos rule would make Spain collapse and "wake people" so Spain can reborn like a phoenix is plain retarded, m8
No. Thinking some political party will change the social and economic situation IS plain retarded. Even more in Spain, where no far-right party has real posibilities, and anyways, they are mostly stupid christians.
You are deluded, and a coward who wants to stay in his delusion having vain hopes, because he can't face reality.. As I said, there is no stop for this train until the crashing. It acelerated too much.
I don't fear Podemos. Let them come.
PP: Cuckservatives
Podemos: Literal embodiment of clown world
PSOE: Irrelevant leftists
Ciu: EU shills
I suggest you start lifting and arming yourselves if you haven't already because road war is inevitable.
>>77237641
Finally someone with a brain.
>>77235025
>>77237087
>Al pepero y al podemita, una carga de dinamita
ftfy
>>77236358
Puta madre joder, al princio me creí que era un troll joder; pero resulta que era verdad
La cuestión es encontrar una nueva represión que heche la culpa a los blancos, y yo pensando que ese tipo de subnormalidades sólo estaban en América
>>77237833
Todo lo que ves en América es lo que tendremos en España un par de años más tarde. No falla. Ahora está todo lleno de SJW y escoria de esa calaña.
>only subhuman flags here so far
>>77226336
>>77226144
>>77225297
Didn't rajoy win the elections
>>77237943
>pizza 4 checos
>>77237943
How are the whores going, Jakub?
>>77237794
Así sí, joder #afavor
>>77238017
Yes but not really.
>>77237475
>You are deluded, and a coward who wants to stay in his delusion having vain hopes, because he can't face reality.
keke, you just went full retard here m8, I don't think anyone can change the current situation, I just don't want to get fucked in the ass by those commies the next four years.
Also associating economic ruin and SJW policies with a fight for a greater cause is plain delusional, uncertainty does not necessarily translates into enabling the context that will lead us to accomplish your "greater causes". You are just projecting your dreams into chaos.
>>77238355
statisticaly speaking you have more sluts then we do. also coalburners. fck off paco
>>77237734
I'm at the point where I literally don't care about anything other than protecting my gf, immediate family, friends and our property and I know our shitty politicians and elites aren't going to do anything about it.
Second Civil War when?
And Im not talking about Twitter.
Que un español despotrique contra España en inglés mientras habla con otros españoles es por lo menos ridículo. Allá tú.
>>77237941
My only hope is that Trump wins and creates a domino effect since modern youth culture in Spain is just American culture delayed a few years thanks to the miracle of globalism.
>>77238550
You just can't accept caos is the only posibble end.
People like you are not fucked in the ass enough to take a weapon and go outside. Sorry, but you need more assfucking. Thats why I will vote Podemos.
You will wake up or die. I do not want to let the middle class stay in it's comfort zone. That is the worst it could happen.
>>77225297
>Didn't his party get donations to "encourage bolivarianism" on Europe?
So this people LITERALLY want to go down the Venezuela road?
I can respect that, i mean they should still be murdered for weak genes and wantind to destroy their own country, but at least they aren't like those retarded communists who tweet with their iphones and complain about capitalism.
>>77238751
You are doing the right thing, but I hope you decide to fight for anything more if there is a posibility in the future.
Also, I suggest you to live in the countryside as far as posible from civilization. Less people, less problems, cheaper, and more rewarding.
>tfw my gf will escape her shithole to live with me.
>tfw this country is becoming a shithole too
>>77239090
You have to understand that the "Revolucion Bolivariana" not only fucks up your economy.
They corrupt all the control mechanism a country has, even if you kick them out next election it would take decades to fix the damage.
>>77239090
>Huurd durr, everyone must be as miserable as me to have an objective political vision
You are now officially aware that you are part of the problem.
You k are part of the problem
>>77239217
>but at least they aren't like those retarded communists who tweet with their iphones and complain about capitalism.
>>77238977
Don't be mad Francisco.
>>77239497
Well they still are, but at least they vote an actual communist.
They know about Venezuela and still want that.
>>77239497
I fucking swear I have met like 12 of these in person through my life.
They are fapping to Karl Marx and preaching Chavez while wearing Nike and checking Twitter on their new Iphone.
>>77239090
>People like you are not fucked in the ass enough to take a weapon and go outside.
And almost no one and we probably are the most leftist country in Europe the youth here is fucking retarded,
Podemos is going to convert this in Sweden, Pablo Mosques said literally that there just a few immigrants in Spain comparing with countries like France and that we need more, you know where are going to put your taxes.
>>77239480
>as miserable as me
I don't understand what do you mean. I probably have a better economic position than you, but as I said before, that worths nothing if we live on a SJW shithole with no morals.
I want the return of tradition, I want people to realize it was better for everyone. And the only way for them to realize that is to go full SJW mode, the cost does not matter. I am absolutely convinced those ideas will fall by its own weight the moment they have freedom to apply them.
Why is the right dead in Italy and Spain?
why spain is so fucking leftist. didnt they have some anarchist movements in the north. what about the separatists, are they europhilics as well?
Argentina will recover just in time for Spain to burn under Podemos regime in 8 years.
Come visit your son and make this country white again bros.
>>77239090
>People like you are not fucked in the ass enough to take a weapon and go outside. Sorry, but you need more assfucking.
not an argument.
Ladies and gentleman, the typical spanish retard! If he is fucked in the ass doesn't give a shit about anything or anyone and deludes himself thinking that chaos will bring Spain some kind of good while at the same time he is unable to explain what kind of restoring mechanism will follow Podemos win.
SAD!
>>77237641
Been getting in shape for that reason oniichan, been looking density of population maps and isolated little towns, you don't want to be in a city when the happening happens.
If Pablemos gets the presidency, it's innawoods time for me.
Me iré a Teruel, que no existe.
>>77239784
>let inmigrants come ilegally
>the new work policy comes
>they can literally hire some latino for 500 euros for 2 months and fire him
>22% unemployed rate
I was a pretty open guy to the inmigrant matter but when you grow up and every job you could have taken is occupied by a muslim it kinda pisses you off.
>>77239784
>you know where are going to put your taxes
>Implying I am not going to reduce my income to the mínimum if they reach power
They are not going to receive a cent from me, I have a plan for that. I may even go off the grid.
>>77239945
>>77239983
Remnants of the Franco regime made people upset about the right, ironically voting the most right-wing party twice the 2 last legislatures and regretting it both times.
>>77239735
Are you from Barcelona? That sounds like Barcelona.
>>77240430
That sounds so familiar lol.
I will indeed, Spain needs to be destroyed before reborn from the ashes of leftists.
>>77240124
>what kind of restoring mechanism will follow Podemos win
Maybe you idiot will wake up if you get more assfucking. If you don't, we have nothing to lose anyways. Society is already shit, as you proved yourself.
>Want to be a freelance
>Most countries have a 20 euro fee/month or even free with some help for young people
>240€ if you want to work for yourselves
>"lol like people leave our country and shit there's very few people who open a new business"
ayy lmao
>>77240517
No, my man, Im from Guadalajara.
>>77240430
>the most right wing
which is something like the democrats over here right?
didnt most growth in spain happened during Franco's years?
>>77239847
You were implying the someone must be as fucked as you are to understand your inane ideas, go fuck yourself
>Rajow wins
>Still have to vote again
Why
>>77240557
I think we may be like 10% of the Podemos voters.
>>77240834
>implying he won
>>77240212
Same.
When people says "It's stupid to say that immigrats take away the jobs from us, you're racist!!!!"
It's just numbers, if you got 3 jobs and 4 workers and then import 10 workers more, what is the deal?
>>77240302
>They are not going to receive a cent from me, I have a plan for that. I may even go off the grid.
Good for you anon, i mean really, you're smart, but is not the case to all of us, you won't make the difference.
>>77240430
>Remnants of the Franco regime made people upset about the right
If by "remnants of the Franco regime" you mean (((((mainstrin media))))) and ((((((public education)))))) you're absolutely right.
>>77225297
What do you have to fear? Similar policies have been a resounding success in Venezuela, as shown by the empty shops and bread lines.
I can't wait for a progressive and tolerant politician to bring these same policies to Spain!
>>77240834
They need more than simple majority to form a government. It is not like that in Argentina?
>>77240813
>I want to live comfortably go fuck yourself!
You are fucked, mate. Change your mindset or you will have no place in the future.
Spanish person living in The Netherlands. I have been way to busy lately to get involved with politics in Spain. Can someone give me a short summary of what the situation is?
>>77240782
Yes and yes.
>>77240922
I think it's scary at the least to think that a fucking job in a Mercadona is one of the most searched nowadays when 10 years ago you could work on these kinds of places because no one wanted to do it.
>>77241128
Yeah but only the first 2 go to a ballotage.
Wait, Podemos was second???
>>77240922
>but is not the case to all of us
It is not about intelligence, it is about being willing to do sacrifices. If you want, you can. But I am agree, most of you don't want. So go ahead and try to solve it your own way. Sorry, but you will fail miserably.
>>77241241
How are things over there?
How did you find yourself living in the nethers?
>>77241397
Short, I guess.
>>77241397
My father is spanish and from Madrid and i have a Dutch mother. I speak both languages perfectly and am currently going to university here, visited Madrid last week to catch up with family and such. Uni here is ok, although filled with lefties.
>>77225297
>party illegally funded by Venezuela and Iran
>retarded economic policies
>openly admits to wanting to control the media
>literally accuses rival parties of being fucking white males
>25% of Spaniards will still vote for him
I miss the good old days, when we wuz fascists and shit
now all we have is poo in loo socialists
>>77225297
Except for cataluña and andalucia we dont have a substantial nigger or mudslim population. Podemos supporters and lib-tards are our sub-human quota and the targets of the Rope-Day.
>>77241731
Yes, you are the first european country with a shitskin president.
It must feel bad I guess.
>>77241850
>president
prime minister
What's up with this guy and fucking Venezuela??
>>77225297
Cuban American here of Spanish origin.
If you want a new start move to the US. We need more redpilled people like you guys. Buy and carry guns. Move to Florida
>>77240579
>Maybe you idiot will wake up if you get more assfucking.
still unable to respond with a consistent argument.
>hey guise, Im awake! Podemos will make Spanish worse and then great again because I feel that way!
Ok, retard.
>>77241731
I even heard that is George Soros trough an iranian fundation who help to funded them.
I couldn't verify it but it woudln't been so surprising.
>>77242104
Venezuela funded Podemos, gave them 7million dollars
>>77242317
This the best plan.
>>77228055
If this comes true I'm going over there to fight.
>>77225297
BASED
> C's
> EU shills
what is this, a meme started by PP? Do you really gonna vote anything else? fuck this is more retarded than the PSOE and Podemos fighting each other. good, keep saying that about C's, gonna be the new republic of Venezuela soon
>>77241128
>You want to live comfortably go fuck yourself!
>you need more assfucking to understand the current political situation of your country!
truly a master debater, kek
>>77242861
>sweden
>>77228159
ahahahahaha
anguita is a fucking irrelevant idiot, fucking commie quijote, i remember watching him in las noticias del guiñol thousand years ago
i love spain but for fucks sake i hate 90% of the spanish people
>>77225297
Out of millions of betacucks, he stands at 1st place by looks only.
Disgusting marxist hippy. You know well that we'll have to free both Spain and Greece in a decade's time, when they're gonna be full on communist, and V4 a fascist powerhouse?
spanish decent guy here. the conquistadores, tradesmen, and explorers are fucking rolling in their graves for the conditions spanish "men" are in. those guys are my heroes and you all blew it
>>77243648
mexican is not spanish, wallbro
>>77243648
Where do you live, why and what do you need to go live in the US?
Podemos fag is basically Bernie Sanders
>>77244307
>>77244081
my parents came from pamplona to study in the us. i was born there, then we moved to mexico for work. after i was done with college i move back to the US i live in Wisconsin. living the life man
>>77244474
not even compare it, Pablemos is literally latinamerica socialist, Bernie is basically left-wing european.
>>77245925
take me with you alberto
>>77242317
>you will never move to florida in the 80's
JUST
>>77225297
Time to remove those oppressive fences.
>>77241731
Decades ago, Portugal was fighting a huge proxy war with the proto-one world government (the same sort of fight Spain had during their civil war), and now we've got the shit """""democratised""""" out of us.
>>77247446
I seriously can't tell if this is a viral ad for World War Z or just Europe in 2016.
>>77249188
World War N.
Every party in Spain is a Jew party.
- PP: cuckservatives that only care for pensionists, even though they've been raping the pension fund hard these years. Started mass immigration and Rajoy increased 70% the immigrant gibsmedat budget for 2016 (http://www.elmundo.es/grafico/economia/2015/08/04/55c096abca47412f7d8b457f.html). Pretty corrupt too, though I guess it's just because they've had power, every other party has done similar things where they've governed.
- PSOE: average euro social-democrat mainstream cuck party. However they're dead even if they don't know it yet, now their only support is on Asturias, Andalucía and Extremadura because of past and present pork barrel and clientelism (early retired miners, fraudulent unemployment benefits among agro "workers"...)
- C's: the only ones with a more or less clear project for Spain, too bad their good intentions are outdated (liberal centrist parties in Europe are pretty much a thing of the past, they're some decades late), and they're good goys when it comes to immigration/globalization/etc.
- Podemos/IU: meme party without true ideals, they're simply postmodern self-hating cucks who spout literal tumblr garbage and probably are literal cuckold themselves, after all they're ironically eager fans of all this mentally ill new leftist thought from America.
Not relevant parties:
- "Nationalists" who don't deserve that name because they're mostly corrupts or cucks who only care about money and want to fill their region with third worlders like in Catalonia and Basque Country.
- España 2000/DN/etc: mostly composed of idiots and people without real virtue and honor, also zero chance of winning.
Conclusion: it's hopeless and there's no good option. If you want to contribute to a political change just talk to your acquaintances about /pol/ thoughts (you can slip comments, joke around, etc.), spread facts and opinion on YouTube/news comments/blogs/forums/etc.
>>77249769
I wrote this...
>>77251569
I told you I was going to use it. its a good pasta
>>77251940
Also, about Ciudadanos I wanted to add the following (the post was too long so I had to remove it): they essentially want Spain to become a "normal" Western European country: wealthier, with less corruption, etc. The problem is that they're late: that model has already failed as we can see all across the continent.
