Aren't automatics already banned? Or does Seth want to make them double illegal?
>>77222482
>AR-15
>automatic
>>77222482
Seth McCucklane
>>77222482
he forgot to charge the battery so it wasn't an automatic weapon
>>77222482
A .223 is also weaker than the the rounds used to hunt game with. Nobody ever said gun grabbers were smart.
First you go for the autos, then the semi autos, and eventually you'll get to the lever actions cause you have nothing else to scapegoat
Fully automatic rifles are not illegal.
Ahmed had one without the proper paperwork, so we obviously need to repeal the NFA, since it doesn't work.
>>77222482
Automatics are banned past a certain date of manufacture
Why not just ban murder?
>>77223016
Automatic Weapons have been banned since the 30s thanks to WOPs
>>77222482
They're heavily regulated and damn expensive.
Seth really means semi-autos, but he's saying "automatic" to conjure images of someone with an Uzi with a 100 round ExtendoClip(tm) mowing down a crowd of 5 year olds. Classic debate tactic, you muddle the issue just enough to change one or two words in your argument that on the surface look meaningless, but when you think about the argument can color it one way or another.
>>77222482
Automatics are legal, but incredibly difficult to get. It will take the greater part of a year to be interviewed and investigated by the feds. The gun will be registered, and the cost of the automatic will be about as much as new luxury car. They are the rich man's toy.
>>77222552
This guy gets it. For all you no guns, it is a semi-automatic rifle that has the cosmetic appearance of an M16 but cannot fire automatically.
>>77222583
This to be honest family. Omar didn't even use an automatic either, macfarlane is just another ignorant celebrity who does what his jewish handlers tell him to.
>>77222482
>ban automatics
next we ban water, for drowning people
>>77222482
Didn't Cho have semi auto pistols?
Last I checked he had the second highest score, so its not like banning the ebil ayyarrfiteen will do anything.
>>77223566
>next we ban water, for drowning people
why is this is retarded false equivalence, continually circled jerked on here
>>77223441
Unless its modified.
I don't understand why everyone thinks ar-15's are some big scary thing.
>Easy to build, and parts are super abundant.
>typically chambered in 5.56 or .223 very common and easy to acquire ammo.
>Extremely reliable, easy to strip and clean.
They are popular for a reason, and its not because they are megadeath baby killing machines.
>>77224030
Why is a false correlation between guns and murder circle jerked by leftist faggots?
>>77222482
>You don't get to be shocked any more unless you take action to stop them
Like, oh I don't know.... Shoot the fucker?
>>77223349
>WOPs
What?
>>77223441
whats this problem with assault rifles? Why couldn't someone kill 50 with a pistol in a short time either?
>>77222482
Who could be behind this post?
Also,tell me how jet fuel can melt steel beams again, Anon...
I hate to be a panic buyer but fuck do I want an AR 15 now.
>>77224030
It's not a false equivalence.
>Guns kill X amount of people/children/gays every year. This is unacceptable, they should be banned, or at the very least heavily restricted. No one NEEDS a gun.
>Pools kill X amount of people every year. This is unacceptable and they should be banned if not heavily restricted. No one NEEDS a pool.
>Cars kill X amount of people every year. This is unacceptable and they should be banned. You don't NEED a car.
I can't even blame celebrities for saying retarded shit like this.
Imagine being that dumb and useless coupled with the insane dopamine rush you must get for being retweeted/commented on thousands and thousands of times.
>>77224373
>buying an AR-15
That isn't being a panic buyer, that is being a stupid buyer.
>>77224147
A fasle correlation? Is there another weapon that is used more frequently in homicides?
>>77222552
Seriously, gun-grabbers are fucking retarded
>>77224045
>I don't understand why everyone thinks ar-15's are some big scary thing.
This isn't Reddit, friend. You don't have to pretend you don't understand simply because you fear speaking the truth in public.
You know the reason.
>>77224425
Live in cucked state, HBAR AR 15 is the only semi auto rifle I can buy now.
>tfw relatives work in some gun factory in belgium and gave me a scar :3
>>77224425
Idk, the gay muslim faggot didn't seem to have any problems with it
>>77224480
>Is there another weapon that is used more frequently in homicides?
Bare knuckles are used more frequently than muhskurryblacksaltrifles.
>>77224225
without papers.
italians. mafia.
renounce your citizenship.
>>77224480
Guns don't kill people (rappers do).
Ban guns and you will get stabbings going through the roof. Ban those and they will use screwdrivers, hammers, iron bars, vehicles, their bare hands, whatever.
The issue is not the tool, it's people wanting to kill other people.
Not in all states.
If I so desired I could go out and buy a fully automatic weapon this morning
god bless VA
>>77224480
Hands
>>77224591
Pic pls :333
>>77224480
All of them.
>>77222482
Like most gun control advocates they are ignorant of the topic they are so vocal about.
>>77223300
This under-the-rader QUADROUPLE DOUBLES blessed by KEK gets it
Fuck guns, we need to outlaw MURDER. There's no WAY they'd think about doing something against the law like purchasing weapons illegally.
Government monopoly on power and GUN FREE ZONES not AR-15s and constitutional rights OK. praise allah.
>>77224551
If you don't feel free, you should move.
>>77224480
You have to break down the numbers.
According to the FBI, there are about 30,000 firearm related deaths per year.
Take out suicides, and you're left with about 10,000.
Take out criminal violence, such as gang violence, and it drops to roughly 2,000-3,000.
That's a .000912% chance of being killed by a gunman in the USA.
>>77224384
It is though, pools and cars aren't designed to be efficient human slaying tools.
What people should say is that the second amendment actually says yes, citizens NEED guns to ensure liberty is upheld.
>>77222482
>These shootings are a regular occurrence. You don't get to be "shocked" anymore unless you take action to stop them. Ban all the Muslims.
Here, just addapted his tweet to Europe since we banned automatic weapons long time ago, and it's hard as fuck to even get a handgun.
>>77222482
"These shootings, Seth? *This* shooting set a record. *This* shooting wasn't a random killing by a nutjob, it was a targeted attack by a Muslim who self-aligned with ISIS. Maybe you would like more of *these* shootings, Seth? *These* shootings, like the ones in Paris? Do you like Muslims that much, Seth?
>>77222482
They'll just use illegal guns.
Look at the Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan attacks in Paris, or the Brussels airport shootings & bombings in Belgium.
>>77224823
>It is though, pools and cars aren't designed to be efficient human slaying tools.
Yet they both kill many more people a year than guns do.
My cousin just got a .308 for his confirmation gift. Finnish gunlaws arent that cucked as people think. Its just stupid that you almost have to join a hunting club to get a license for a big rifle. Semi autos are also only for long time hunters.
>>77222482
It's about time they ban explosives and Kalashnikovs in france.
>>77224541
Kike mine
>>77224813
80% of this state is amazing, rural and beautiful. It's two counties and Baltimore ruling the rest of us. They should leave.
>>77222482
But most shootings aren't even done with automatic weapons? Just another out of touch elitist Hollywood traitor who wants to disarm the people!
>>77223300
quad d-ubs confirm dank memes
>Allah ackbar
>>77224541
Thanks anon, sometimes I have to much faith in normies and forget that they are to busy to stay informed themselves so instead believe what ever is popular at the time.
What the fuck is this bitch going on about? I can't decipher it.
If semi-autos get banned, will people just buy revolvers and learn to fan the hammer?
>IT'S HIGH NOON
>>77224551
Buy an 80% lower and build a rifle yourself. Its cheaper and not too difficult.
>>77222482
yes autos are banned. retards like family goy will still yell about banning autos regardless. no one really cares about the facts, they care about being relevant and getting upvotes. who gives a shit
>>77222482
Liberals think semi-auto means full auto
>>77224705
To do it though you need to jump through some serious hoops and file your paper work with the Feds and then be interviewed by the FBI etc etc etc. Shit the Feds have burned women and children alive in Texas for thinking they could that without the blessings of the ATF
>>77225188
>learn to fan the hammer?
Was that ever really useful with those old 6 shooters?
>>77224384
The problem with this argument is that pools and cars werent created to kill people or things. The AR-15, the gun used in orlando, was created for the military during the vietnam war to give american soldiers and upper hand in combat. Its original design and intent was for inflicting mass casualties. Can pools and cars kill people? Yes, but thats not what they were made for, and thats why they are not the murder weapon of choice in america
I'm getting real sick of people like this faggot thinking they know everything about politics and the government because they've acted in some movies or made a fucking cartoon.
>>77225234
And as far as I know, legal in all 50 states.
>>77222482
the people should have whatever the government has. PERIOD. That is what the 2nd amendment is about. So any law banning any weapon is just a bunch of hot air.
>>77225432
Guns are the reason this shit happened. It didn't happen because of Islam.
>>77225370
>The problem with this argument is that pools and cars werent created to kill people or things.
So? If the issue is the amount of people that they kill, why does their designed purpose come into it?
If the only issue is that they are designed to kill/destroy, then that is merely an emotional knee-jerk, which is not a good reason for doing anything.
>>77222482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gWaBimM0Us
Why haven't they banned this guy from existing yet?
>>77225432
I think I'd feel high and mighty because I got hungover and missed my flight which caused me not to die on 9/11.
>>77225494
They are trying to ban it in Cali right now. Trying to scare people about shit like "ghost guns" and mass armories pumping out weapons from people's basements.
>>77225188
Just make the trigger pull lighter.
You can hold the gun with both hands, and you won't be fucking up your aim by fiddling with the gun.
>>77225521
I live in the shithole called Toronto. No guns period are allowed here and people are murdered in broad daylight by gun fire everyday. Ffs even Virginia tech was done with a pair of handguns. Point is if people wanna kill you or go on a spree, the spree will be worse if they are (for the most part) uncontested.
>>77225160
That's the average woman speaking about politics.
>WE MUST DO SOMETHING ! I DON'T KNOW WHAT BECAUSE I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE ON THE QUESTION BUT DO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE DIE !
>mfw living in noguns Bonglandistan and even I know the difference between semi-auto and fully automatic.
>>77225369
If you were a good enough shot and in an enclosed enough area, absolutely.
>>77225010
Baltimore Cityfag here, and you're right. Maryland is a stunningly beautiful rural state, one that at times resembles a Grant Wood landscape in its hauntingly surreal agrarian beauty.
Even the city has some killer restaurants, as long as you avoid the groid.
At least the terms of our AWB are as stupid as the people who wrote it, so just buy a VZ-38, or an AR-10. The Jews and their nigger hordes haven't taken those away from us. Yet.
Luckily, it also seems like the increasing levels of TNB in the city are driving more and more law-abiding citizens to push for reforms of the CCA ban. Now THERE'S an especially retarded example of Baltimore and PG letting niggers be niggers and making the rest of the state suffer if ever there was one.
I'm buying a VEPR 12 AND a 54R in anticipation of the chimpening that's sure to happen this year. I'm confident my Slavic steel will keep me safe. If not, then hell, at least this state gets real rural real fast, and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that dindus absolutely hate anything resembling the great outdoors. Something about their ape brains not being able to appreciate beauty.
>>77224425
There are plenty of ways to get a good cheap ar15 even in the midst of a libcuck moral panic.
>>77224480
Pretty much every household item is used in more killings than rifles are every year.
80x the amount of people killed by rifles are killed by cars every year.
Double the amount of people are killed by someone's bare hands.
1.5x the amount of people are killed with hammers and/or other mundane blunt objects.
in fact at an annual rate of ~400 deaths via rifle shooting, rifles are statistically insignificant.
But we should definitely ban a small percentage of the rifles produced, that will totally eliminate all murder in the world forever.
>>77225623
He died a while ago. RIP Bob.
>>77222482
Hey, better idea. How about we make murder illegal?
....
>>77225957
You have some sources for those stats?
I like to argue with my friends about these things and I would like some sauce I could throw at them.
Serious question. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything.
Why does anyone think that banning guns is a good idea?
People who want them will still get them illegally. Just like anything that's illegal. Then if only criminals have them we are in a position where no one can defend against an armed individual. I don't see how anyone who thinks for a few minutes would think that banning them is a good idea. Can someone please give me a not meme answer of why anyone could even think this?
>>77222720
BUT MUH SCARY BLACK RIFLE.
Libshits only want to ban this stuff because it is the most common rifle in the United States. It's guilty of prevalence and nothing more.
>>77222482
Wow, I'm pretty disappointed in Seth. First he made the festering garbage that is the Cleveland show and American Dad, and now this?
>>77222482
also
>1 post by this ID
>>77226195
he wants an automatic gun ban
as far as i know its REALLY hard to get automatic guns legally already
he wants a ban on something that is effectively already banned
in other words, these people don't think
>>77225611
its not an emotional knee-jerk reaction. and its not the issue its a distinction that separates it from comparing it to pools and cars. No is arguing that we ban all guns; i own a gun. I just believe there need to be stronger regulations on certain guns, speficaly ones designed for military combat. Just as certain cars are illegal and deemed to dangerous drive on the street (indy/race cars), so should certain types of guns imo
>>77226348
>Hating American Dad
Make sure to drink apple juice because OJ will kill you
>>77226544
This. American Dad is the only passable thing that turd has ever made.
Show a little more sympathy for the victims' families Seth, this shooting was the biggest atrocity since the Cleveland Show
>>77224258
Yes.
People who want to ban the ar-15 are retarded.
>>77225802
Exactly, just like that dutch bitch did when they voted the EU gun ban a few days ago
>HURR THERE HAVE BEEN 100 000 PEOPLE IN THE EU BEING KILLED BY LEGALLY OWNED FIREARMS
Someone points out that it's actually 1500
>HURR I DON'T CARE! MUH FEELINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT! BAN SEMI-AUTO RIFLES RIGHT NOW
Someone points out that there isn't a single statistic about anyone being killed in the EU by a semi-auto rifle.
>DURR SOMETHING ABOUT SEMI-AUTOMATIC WEAPONS HAS TO BE BANNED (sic, she actually, unironically said this)
And thus the law passed, they'll confiscate our AR15's amongst other scary looking semi-auto rifles toward the end of the year, without any monetary compensation of course.
>>77226003
Oh damn I didn't know RIP
>>77226544
>>77226620
not to mention the new season on TBS has been GOAT
>that r kelly trapped in the closet parody episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0QeEodselQ&list=PLKvTZC3BI7EfLnf_-0W7jNr7pzPZRl8pw&index=2
it mirrors the first few parts perfectly, and if you havent seen trapped out of the closet, the whole thing is on jewtube...it is the pinnacle of black achievement
>>77226442
:^)
>>77226532
>I just believe there need to be stronger regulations on certain guns, speficaly ones designed for military combat.
OK, well these regulations already exist.
You cannot (without going through a mountain of paperwork and having the government elbow deep in your ass) legally buy and own an M16 or M4.
An AR15, while looking superficially similar, is not the same gun. It does not have the same capabilities, namely select fire.
>>77226532
Which type of guns? Military types? All guns can be military types, there are African militaries still using bolt actions. What criteria do you use to judge the guns banned? They will just alter them to defy your criteria. It's the problem here in Cali. Ban assault guns? Fine my weapon is just a semi auto. Ban "scary features", fuck it I'll start changing those features forcing you to start trying to ban stupid shit like "barrel shrouds" because you have no idea what the fuck the feature on a gun actually does.
Seth is afraid his gay ass is next.
>>77226898
it's every fucking thead on /pol/ now. 98% of thread creation is scripted in advance.
>>77222482
What a fucking retard
>>77222482
Holy shit is that a real tweet? That's fucking retarded.
>>77227228
What would you expect from a guy who gets all his jokes from whales.
>>77227228
>>77227436
manatees*
>>77227118
I think it's more obvious when it's paired with "/pol/ btfo" or other meme comments
>>77226532
Why? No, really. Why should the military have a monopoly on ownership of "military weapons"? The average responsible gun owner is far safer and more competent with firearms than the average soldier. What makes the government so trustworthy ?
Ok but as a Pennsylvanian I enjoy muh guns and muh hunting. PAexit when?
>>77227623
Do you have a shitty accent?
>>77227533
yep. I just wonder who the fuck has the free time or paid funding to bother with this shit.
I know there are tons of aspies on the internet, but seriously.
>>77227659
Not really. Kinda sound like a mix of rural new York and PA Dutch though, but just barely.
>>77223242
Obviously this is the best solution.
>>77222673
how witty of you, that sure showed him
>>77226962
>You cannot (without going through a mountain of paperwork and having the government elbow deep in your ass) legally buy and own an M16 or M4.
that makes me very sad.
>>77222482
On the BBC they always use the term 'assault rifle'. So in your mind it conjures up this kind of image.
Maybe Seth should worry about more important things like being a father to his daughter that he hides from the public rather than paying out hush money
>>77224225
A Ginney, you know, a Dago.
>>77224779
>it's black, scary
I'm literally shaking. I'm so triggered right now. I. can't. even.
>>77224480
>hands
>knives
>hammers
>electricity
>handguns
the scary "assault" rifle meme is just that, a meme. handguns kill a lot more via niggers in chicago and baltimore
>captcha: hitler's austrian house
I'm not shocked nor do I care.
>>77227514
The manatees were better because they were at least anti-censorship.
>>77228277
>chicago and baltimore
But that's because of white people, and structural racism.
Just kidding, I wanted to see how SJW doublethink feels
>>77227059
Modern military assault weapons. Ones that are commissioned by the US military specifically for war. If your a responsible, law abiding citizen I dont give a shit if you own a semi auto. The restrictions im talking about would be along the lines of not allowing certain individuals, such as ones with criminal records indicating a propensity towards violence to not be allowed to access these guns. Domestic abuse, aggrevated assault, ect
.
>>77228567
Aren't felons already disallowed to own firearms?
Is anyone here actually saddened or shocked by this?
>>77222552
>>77223441
tired of this shit.
AR-15 is the acronym for a plan drafted by eugene stoner, "armalite rifle, model 15," to be produced for the US military, to meet the military's designation of M16, which is like an RFP, a set of standards to be met, in order for adoption.
variants notwithstanding, they practically are one and the same; the platform is meant to be select fire, thus, an assault rifle.
just because the domestic market is flooded with semi-auto ones does not change this fact. anybody not in a cuck state can purchase an assault rifle, AR-15 pattern or not, if it was manufactured/imported to the US before 1986.
colt did not start selling the semi-automatic version until four years after the military adopted the AR-15.
http://smallarmsoftheworld.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2754
>man who takes his first "good idea" and rehashes it into 3 different shows because he lacks originality
>knowing fuck all about anything
He's as smart as he is funny.
>>77228486
I thought /pol/ over-reacted all the time with the whole "am I taking crazy pills or is the left just fucked?" The Left has officially refused to call a spade a spade. The guy CALLED AND PLEDGED allegiance to ISIS and they still find a way to blame white christian america.
The collective response by MSM and the left has convinced me that they hate the west and are so incredibly invested in their crusade for anti-west rhetoric that they will delude themselves into thinking all wrongs can be traced back to the white man.
truly a time of turmoil when I can't trust my own neighbour to be a sane individual.
>>77223242
>it doesn't work
>hurrrr deee durrr get rid of law don't try to improve it hurrrrrrrrrrr
>>77226348
I will never forgive them for ending king of the hill for the fucking Cleveland show.
Shouldn't the guy who was actually supposed to be on one of the planes that was crashed during 9/11 be a bit more upset about another islamist attack? This guy survived by chance. The fact he wasn't in this gay bar is probably also just a lucky coincidence.
>>77228711
>being this retarded
>>77228567
shall not be infringed, faggot.
all US citizens are to be as well-armed as the US military -- and we already are. even a felony conviction has no bearing on your rights. once you have served your sentence, you are free.
if you don't like it, leave.
>>77228711
Not everyone has thousands of dollars to spend on a pre-86 lower.
>>77226101
Just have this shit.
Question to gun grabbers: What additional gun control do you want the government to implement?
>>77222482
>Shit MacFarlane, creator of Senpai Guy, wants to ban weapons
>Cartoon has pointless violence for the sake of being edgy
kek
>>77229348
>>77228691
Yes, but the NRA and its powerful lobbying network have been able to defeat this restriction, allowing convicted felons relief. Moreover, there are diff. delineations of convictions in the US. Im talking about extending regulations to include violent misdemeanors
>unironically being a redcoat coward on American soil
>not getting shot
>mfw
>>77229348
God bless our nation at number 4 spot there
Looking at his twitter makes you realise how far his self insert has become reality in Family Guy as Brian.
As the seasons go on he gets more and more self righteous and nobody disagrees with him anymore in his fictional world where his dog body is always right.
>>77229374
They don't even know.
All they know is that high capacity high velocity high lethality projectiles are bad, so it's the government's job to magically make them disappear or something.
THEY NEED TO BE MORE ILLEGAL
FRANCE JUST NEEDS TO BAN THEM EVEN HARDER AND THEN PEOPLE WILL LISTEN
>>77228567
Assault weapons are for the most part banned, they require you to get a massive background check plus FBI interview and require you to spend an enormous amount of money to acquire. Also the US military commissions a great number of firearms. The Remington 700 (One of the most popular hunting rifles in the US) is often commissioned as a sniper platform by several branches. And finally criminals are already banned from owning guns in most states if you commit a felony.
Gun Control would work great! if Washington wasn't full of criminals who sell guns to cartels and terrorists.
Eric Holder, caught selling guns to Mexican cartels. Said guns were used to kill American border agents.
Leland Yee, gungrabber from Commiefornia who was caught in an FBI sting operation, where he thought he was selling guns to Chinese Triads
Barack Obama, gungrabber who has sold guns to Islamic jihadi terror network because Al-Qaeda/Al-Nusra/ISIL is apparently fighting for muh freedumbz when they're not fighting because they hate muh freedumbz.
Diane Feinstein, gungrabber who herself owns a gun for her own protection despite having a heavily armed retinue of government bodyguards who have guns. No guns for goys, though. Also her husband makes bank off crooked Military-Industrial contracts.
>>77222720
a 30-30 lever action is more powerful than an AR-15
>>77229966
>Gun Control would work great!
....
>>77229542
>>77223632
Cho shot most of his victims with a Walther P22.
>>77229190
and?
CONARC requirements for the M16 included select fire. period. the AR-15 was never not an assault rifle, i don't care how many piles of neutered rifles actually have been produced since then.
definitions of words, symbols in general really, are not changed by X number of people and/or things not quite living up to them.
the semi-auto version is just a variant that does not meet M16 or M4, but the AR-15 did, and still does. otherwise we wouldn't have them.
the general public not knowing thing one about the procurement process will never change that.
>>77230192
>the AR-15 was never not an assault rifle
Then they produced the civilian version, yes it was.
>>77223300
I'm checking you so hard.
This is the best, most logical thing I've heard about the whole incident.
>>77229123
Your a moron. Why dont you state the entire second amendment, and then examine the historical context in which it was passed.
>all US citizens are to be as well-armed as the US military -- and we already are. even a felony conviction has no bearing on your rights. once you have served your sentence, you are free.
Yeah okay you fucking autist, go try your semi auto up against the resources and technology of the US military in a revolt and tell me how you fair. Except if you want to vote, the most essential thing to a democracy. Felony voting rights were only recently restored in this country, and in many states it still takes waiting periods of years after the completion of sentence to be eligible
>>77225865
>the noguns meme
>>77228115
Fuckin great post man.
>>77230442
The US military vs millions of armed citizens in a guerrilla insurgency? It would be worse than Afghanistan or Vietnam, and that's ignoring the fact that most servicemembers would not fire on US citizens
>>77230442
>Yeah okay you fucking autist, go try your semi auto up against the resources and technology of the US military
Why would I bother doing that when I could just cut off all their funding by sabotaging electrical and plumbing infrastructure in cities containing complete cowardly faggots like you?
These pieces of shit are awful. They never even out themselves into the victims shoes. Imagine their horror. Imagine the terror when you realize there is a maniac going to kill you with a gun and all you have is your dick in your hands because you're in a fucking gun free zone. It's pathetic.
I'll bet dicks to dollars every survivor becomes a life long carry permit holder.
Hollywood liberals are the most disgusting people on the planet.
WE NEED TO BAN GUNS HOLY SHIT YOU BIGOTS DONT UNDERSTAND THEYRE USED BY TRUMP NEO FLOGGER FASCISTS TO KILL GAYS. JUST THE OTHER DAY 50 DIED BECAUSE OF TRUMP. THEYRE GOING TO KILL MORE IF WE DON'T BAN THEM, WE NEED TO BAN ASSAULT BULLETS, ASSAULT STOCKS, ASSAULT SIGHTS, HELL THE WHOLE ASSAULT RIFLE! WE CANT BE SO IGNORANT, ITS THE CURRENT YEAR AND DANGEROUS TRUMP NAZIS ARE OUT SLAUGHTERING PEOPLE, WE CANT ALLOW 50,000 GAYS TO EVER BE KILLED AGAIN, WE CANT FORGET THEM!
>>77228931
>hurr derr just improve something that doesnt work
or you know...repeal an unconstitutional law that doesnt work anyway.
>>77230568
If we had a couple deserters in afghanistan, imagine how many we would have if they could literally drive home and refuse to kill Americans.
Like 90% of the military, even if they didn't turn on th gov, would just sit out and desert
>>77230442
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is pretty unambiguous m80.
Ban Seth MacFarlane
>>77227090
Underrated
>not addressing the actual problem
The weapon is irrelevant. They could make a bomb from fertilizer and kill 50 people.
>>77230442
US Military is made up of people who will not go along killing their fellow countrymen. Drones cannot patrol streets and go door to door and confiscate contraband. Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.
>>77225802
Hit the nail on the head.
>>77230785
No, this is the full second amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>>77222482
Just another no-fun moron that doesn't know what he's talking about. Yes, automatic weapons are already illegal to own without a special permit that's virtually impossible to obtain.
No funs don't care about accuracy, just destruction.
>>77231491
Yeah, and?
Still unambiguous. If they did not mean the people, why did they say The People?
>>77231491
What is necessary to the security of a free State?
What shall not be infringed?
people don't even know bill of rights doesn't give you your rights, and is the primary reason why the federalists didn't want to include it because they knew it would confuse the fuck out of people as it has. the govt can only do what the constitution says, not what it says it can't do
>>77229522
>Abortion is a cause of death
>Alzheimer causes death
Nigger you're retarded
>>77231867
The constitution is a documenting limiting the power of government. In other words a document that sets out to list things that government can't do, rather that outline what it can.
>>77232110
Document limiting*
>>77222482
Notice how almost all of these leftists never go on and on about how wrong it is for Big Government to fight war and kill people over seas.
It's always ban some right (in this case repeating rifles) that civilians have.
They want every single gun banned because someone might kill someone. Oh, wait, they approve of the Big Government having far better weapons than anyone else including PLANET KILLER NUKES!
They want Big Government to have a monopoly on armed force.
>>77227090
Llellll
>>77222482
Yes we should make murder double illegal while we're at it.
>>77231867
>>77232110
On a more general level, the constitution is a formal declaration of the citizens to abide by an agreement which outlines the rights of all parties involved.
It really only works as long as all parties involved mutually agree, otherwise it's a civil war.
>protip: freedom usually wins
>>77232305
Why not just make breaking the law double illegal?
>>77232110
Shut up dad. That's your Magna Carta shit. The American constitution is different. The ninth ammendment they put in but it completely makes the bill of rights nonsensical. It says any rights not stated people have. The US government has set precedent seeing the ninth as nonsensical and ignore it
>>77232358
No, the consitution , and the american form of government is an extremely simple concept. VERY simple. Very easy to understand and here it is:
People have rights and this government that the constitution creates can only have the same rights or less than a citizen and never more. That's the main principle behind America.
Twitter is always a gold mine after these events.
>>77231627
Yeah, and?
Its the first half, the one commonly ignored by gun conspiracy theorists who think the gov. is constantly on the verge of confiscating their weapons, that makes it ambiguous.
"a well regulated militia" is not the same as the concept of individual ownership. moreover, "being necessary to the security of a free state" is a clear dependant clause which bring into question the absolute nature in which the second half is commonly interpreted.
John Marshall, former chief justice of the supreme court: “it cannot be presumed that any clause in the constitution is intended to be without effect.”
>>77224642
Illegals can own full retard weapons? Fucking sweet deal the border jumpers are getting.
>>77232443
You are not different m8.
Like you say, anything not specifically illegal, is legal.
It's the basis of your freedom.
Guns were banned in my country. Now people get killed every fucking single day by firearms anyway. The thing is, criminals will always have access to guns, specially those willing to commit jihad suicide.
Banning guns will only restrict their access to civilians. Don't be fooled like we did America. Be safe.
>>77232885
Well yeah.
But that's still subject to mutual agreement.
Otherwise it's a civil war, like I said.
>>77223632
Pic related is a lie.
A TRUELY proud liberal would hit both buttons, no sweat !
Take that republitard.
>>77232997
you can fuck right off revolution now reee
>>77223300
$hhhhh3333333111111tttttt
>>77233059
Wtf you talking about nigga. Anything not illegal is legal? People are free because that's the way it is. that's the default setting
>>77233083
Wham did you guys get the ban. I mean what year.
Fucking kek.
>>77233083
obongo has been in power for 8 years and hasnt come close to cracking congress
it'll never happen
god bless the USA and their constitution
>>77225160
Typical whore acting on emotion rather than logic and reason
>>77225160
Fucking hell this is painful to read
>>77232982
Is that guy for real?
>>77232997
The supreme court has found an interpretation which supports their goals.
I do not recognize their interpretation as valid.
Many people do not.
Warning: refusal to acknowledge your freedom can be hazardous to your health
>>77232997
A well regulated militia (a militia being a civilian force), is necessary to a free state. As such the people (the ones who must at times form that militia) shall not be prohibited from keeping and bearing weapons suitable for doing this by the government.
It is a declaration that the people should have the right, when it becomes necessary, to form their own army - with the array of weapons that entails.
>>77233083
Kek what a load of shit I'm going to Brazil next month and I'm going to walk right through the favela for a photographic project.
>6'
>95kg
>black belt taekwondo
>2 years navy
>>77233328
2003/2004
And it was a stupid referendum. People really bought this bullshit that banning guns would make us safer. We still have most of the Top 10 most violent cities in the world even a decade after that bullshit.
>>77222482
I wonder what action Seth has taken against automatic weapons.
>>77233320
>People are free because that's the way it is. that's the default setting
Yeah. Because anything not specifically illegal in America is legal.
>>77233558
" should have a right"
I just don't understand why people don't understand what a right is. It is any action that does not violate another person's right. very fuckin easy to see if you have a right. does creating your own army violate anyone's rights? Does owning a gun? Fck
Why does everyone think a right is a privilege granted by government? It's sickening
>>77222482
The solution is make bullet vest cheap and increase availability like place in all wall-mart stuff.
>>77233607
God fucking dammit man, that was fairly recent, I bet Brazil was a nicer place with guns that now.
>>77233603
Well, to be honest the favelas can be a much safer place than touristic areas.
Most criminals live in the favelas so they don't want to do anything that will make the Police go to their neighborhood.
>>77223300
If you ban murder, they win
>>77222482
Yes. When they say "we need gun control," they really mean, "we need to make it so there is never a shooting again, and we believe we can do this by banning all guns."
>>77222552
Does it surprise you that San Fran faggots don't know anything about guns?
Hell, you can buy an AR15 in my country for fuck's sake.
>>77233794
>It's sickening
If you could fight stupidity with reason, people wouldn't try to fight it with legislature. If you could fight it with legislature, the sheriff's office would be staffed by one man.
>>77230442
>>77232196
And they fail to see that events like Orlando show how you absolutely cannot rely on the government to protect you.
>>77222482
Why do we still care about a cuck who hasn't done anything funny in over 10 years?
>>77233368
They're banned in carry-on luggage only. You can still check those things in your checked luggage. So essentially carry-on bags are liquid-free zones, just like the nightclub which was a gun-free zone. It's the same thing. Laws don't stop criminals from committing crimes, enforcement of those laws does.
Dear liberals,
AR-15 means Armalite Rifle model 15. AR-15 style rifles available to the public today are one shot per trigger pull.
Assault Rifle means a small caliber riffle with an option for automatic fire. Automatic fire means the gun continuously fires rounds when the trigger is depressed. These automatic weapons are not commonly available to the public, police and military can get them.
Pulse killer probably would have killed less people with a full auto because he would have used more ammo per person and had less control over accuracy of the rifle. You can go to a range, like The Gun Store in Las Vegas Nevada, to verify for yourself that single fire is a more efficient use of ammo than full automatic fire.
>>77233917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofQ6i9I1IYY
>>77222482
It's doublespeak. He is really saying "ban semi automatic weapons" but the strategy is to remove the distinction between the two.
>>77222482
Yeah, just like how the lack of legal firearms stopped the Paris shooting, oh wait it didn't because criminals will just go to the black market for weapons leaving law abiding citizens as the ones without guns.
>>77234379
Exactly.
Fully automatic weapons aren't necessary for effective and efficient use of ammunition.
Their only actual value is to degrade morale, because a random ass spray of bullets is far more frightening than precision targeting.
>>77234680
This is false. SWAT, special forces, and etc, all extensively use automatic firing weapons like the MP5 and it's newer variants from Heckler and Koch because they fire automatically, and accurately.
The automatic weapons a civilian can buy are as you say, but it's pure ignorance to pretend that your ar15 competes with real modern firearms, which civilians aren't really able to obtain.
>>77233944
So what's the problem with gun bans then? Only criminals can get then instead of crazies and by your own admission they only use them on themselves, not even on a "vulnerable" stranger.
>>77223300
true
>>77235042
You're a retard.
>>77233558
Militia has a couple definitions and can be interpreted, as it has in the past in this country, to mean different things.
Militia:
noun
--a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.
--a military force that engages in rebel or terrorist activities, typically in opposition to a regular army.
--all able-bodied civilians eligible by law for military service.
>It is a declaration that the people should have the right, when it becomes necessary, to form their own army - with the array of weapons that entails.
when it becomes necessary...to preserve the freedom of the state. The freedom of the state needs to be at risk.
>>77222482
Banned in 1986 by the hughes amendment, only ffl's can make new ones and they can't be transferred to normal people. The average f/a ar15 cost about $20,000
![armas1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H4WnD3G.jpg "armas1[1].jpg")
This is Brazil destroying civilians' firearms in 2004 after the referendum that banned guns here.
The pro-ban campaigns were completely stupid like "my child found my gun in my drawer, now he's dead" and it was all promoted by the government itself with taxpayer money.
10 years later and now we have A HIGHER rate of death by firearms per capita than before.
Civilians don't kill people. Criminals do. And criminals could just buy a gun from the black market, while civilians would rather respect the laws.
Banning guns was the stupidest thing in my country.
>(((Seth Macfarlane)))
>>77232982
Mass shootings make up less than 1% of firearm related deaths in the United States.
On the other hand, we would cut the overall homicide rate by 53% if our nation banned all black men from this country.
Wonder why nobody calls for that?
>>77234996
They usually only use them in burst-fire mode.
Which sinks a few in the same zone, just to be sure.
>>77235158
Notice how all definitions are CIVILIANS. i.e regular joes. Not the government, or government controlled forces (such as the national guard).
>The freedom of the state has to be at risk
So when that risk appears your militia is unarmed and untrained in the use of said arms.
That is not well regulated. That's OH SHIT WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
>>77235158
The freedom of the state is always at risk. Thomas Jefferson directly stated that the purpose of the second amendment was so that the government didn't have any right to try and disarm the population it governs. That the main role of the second amendment is to affirm the right of the people to defend against tyranny.
The people define that, not the government.
>>77230442
>Thinking that the US Military would actually fight the civilian population because the government asked us to.
About 90% of my platoon is made up of guys who only joined for college money, 5% joined legitimately to just kill rag-heads and the other 5% joined because they had no other options in life.
There is no true loyalty to the government in the military, especially in the infantry where almost everyone is a staunch libertarian and we get fucked by our chain of command on an almost daily basis. Hilariously there are more Gadsden flags in my barracks than American flags.
>>77235231
Which still proves my point 100% correct because burst mode is a type of fully automatic fire. Trying to pretend the most effective self defense rifles aren't already banned from US citizens is a bullshit lie.
>>77223242
I'd be OK with this.
>>77223349
They were regulated, but weren't banned until the 1986 Hughes Amendment to the Firearm Owners Protection Act, which closed the machine gun registry outside of very specific circumstances (read: bribes from Congressmen).
>>77222482
If they ban AR-15s does this mean the price of other semi-autos will eventually come down to meet demand? I've always wanted a SCAR but $2,400 is just too much.
>>77235141
No mass shootings in Australia for 20 years since the ban, you don't need assault rifles, shotguns pistols or anything else unless animals threaten your farm land. The 2nd amendment is a total non sequitur.
>6'
>95kg
>black belt taekwondo
I can protect myself
>>77223300
WITNESSED
>>77235545
>well regulated
In the 1700s this meant competency. It's saying:
>The only way US citizens will be competent with firearms is if they are able to easily possess and use them.
Learn to read faggot.
>>77222482
Yes. You can write of Seth McFarlane as just another uninformed lip flapping idiot.
>>77235042
What? I think you don't get it. They won't try to rob you in the favela so they don't attract the police. But you can be shot in the streets of Rio in the middle of the day by refusing to give your cellphone to a criminal.
The amount of cars in São Paulo with bullet proof glass is ridiculous. And that's because we still have an average of 120 murders by firearms a day in Brazil... And guns are fucking banned.
>>77224480
>>77222482
Simpler idea - ban niggers and kebab. White America can continue as normal with full gun rights and being civil to each other.
>>77235812
>Trying to pretend the most effective self defense rifles aren't already banned from US citizens is a bullshit lie.
But I didn't?
All I said that they're not necessary for effective and efficient use of ammunition.
You can still achieve the same lethality in single-fire mode as you can in burst-fire mode if you hit the right spot, assuming the target isn't wearing armor. Thus, your magazine can be used more efficiently in the case of walking into a church and blasting people who aren't wearing armor.
I didn't say that fully auto isn't fucking damned convenient to have. But I am saying that it's not a special feature that is required to take anyone down compared to semi-auto.
>>77235992
>Learn to read faggot.
You first, seeing as you just repeated what I said.
![eui5g779e3acicrug3uzfb194[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Gw8X0hb.jpg "eui5g779e3acicrug3uzfb194[1].jpg")
>>77235929
Lol... Sorry but your blackbelt won't impress these brazilians.
>>77222482
I don't give a shit about automatic weapons being "banned", I don't care about equality being realized, I care about the mess that will ensue when these futile aims are attempted to be realized.
>>77223300
>those digits
>>77236377
Fuck I quoted the wrong anon, sorry mister I was trying to agree with you.
>>77232997
>>77236575
No problem m8.
>>77222482
I think it's funny how Seth McFarlane based the dog character on himself in Family Guy and he's the most insufferable one in the show.
Surely he couldn't have approved this or is he actually self-aware of his own smugness?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVFp8KTEw-k
>>77235929
Omar would have easily obtained firearms even under the current restrictions in Australia. You're just lucky as fuck he was in the US instead.
>>77235158
>The freedom of the state needs to be at risk.
The freedom of the states is perpetually at risk. We've seen how callously and casually the federal government steps over state's rights time and again.
>>77222482
They were banned, until the ban was lifted in 2004.
>>77233683
>I wonder what action Seth has taken against automatic weapons.
None, because it's easier for him to crank out another shitty Family Guy re-hash and spend 3 seconds writing inflammatory tweets. Protip: this is Hollywood's MO.
What were you expecting?
